CS:GO - Mixed Feelings About Tribes 

I started playing Tribes a few weeks before release, loved it. However, since around about the first patch I instantly was put off by the direction they were taking the game and quit. It's a shame because it had a lot of potential. I stayed subbed to your channel because your videos are of a very high standard whatever game it is. Variety is better anyway in my opinion. Keep it up!

Sorry, I misspoke slightly by saying speed cap. I was referring to the "flag drag" implemented in the last patch. And explosive nitrons force you to take yourself to very low health levels just to complete a flag route, making you easier sniper/chain fodder than ever before.

I agree which what you said about HiRez moving on to Smite. It's a shame, but I still find Tribes to be fun. It definitely needs some changes. They might be looking to add another game, as they recently emailed all former GA players to see if there was any interest in a sequel. Yikes.

I think since there working on Smite as of right now, they should open up the dev tools to the community for tribes and global agenda, so there's something new coming out while there working on their MOBA.

I myself have continued to play T:A but even then to a lesser extent, every patch they release doesn't give you anything to do other than a few measly weapons, they're afraid to go outside of the norm with what they're doing, they don't want to experiment hugely (Permafrost kind of experimented though) but there's nothing that massively changes the gameplay. They could try things like gungame or something else that switches it up. Another reason I don't play as much is the comp guys annoy me.

They've actually stepped up development since summer. Remember the gap between updates 5 and 7? That was over 6 weeks of waiting after getting a patch every 2, and the Stonehenge patch was a joke. Also, they're very consistent with updates, comparatively. Look at TF2; that game gets an update every few months. And twinfusors are actually pretty good if you can land both hits, but the blinksfusor does prove that they're struggling to come up with new stuff.

Dang, was this summer the only good time for Tribes on RU-vid? First Bowkoo states that he's making less Tribes content, now Vol1tion... I don't think that they'll abandon Tribes, though. I think that they're focusing on SMITE at the moment to get people pumped for it on release. They know how popular Tribes is, and they'll never abandon it. They've been more consistent with their updates than they were in the summer. Once SMITE is released, I have a feeling they'll work on Tribes more.

I started playing GA on day one, and it certainly felt like they abandoned the game for Tribes, which they are now doing for Smite. I logged onto GA a few weeks ago and there has been no new content for probably over a year now. The playerbase was always small, but from what I could see there were barely enough players queued for a merc game to start.. I love Tribes, but I feel that as the Tribes franchise has always had a comparatively small fanbase, they will move away from it quite fast..

Things turned out just as you said in this vid, they worked hard on smite for a few years, but now finally they have released a update on Tribes just because of the cashflow they get from smite!

Please don't leave Tribes. There have been NO new Tribes videos from ANYONE(besides frag videos or esportscasting) in the past MONTH. Most of the Tribes RU-vidrs have even said that they're leaving the game. The Tribes YT community might not have been big to begin with, but it had a lot of potential. Please don't let it die.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, actually. They've made several pointless attempts at nerfing snipers in the past(2 more seconds of spawn time? Really?), so they realize that they're slightly overpowered, but this wouldn't help nerf them at all. Then again, if it's only in custom servers, it's still in the testing phase, so it might not actually get implemented.

There's drag now for carrying the flag? Well, that sounds more like an improvement. It makes it a bit more realistic; the flag isn't just an item. It makes things more difficult, yes, but this is a difficult game. They also reduced punting distance back with the Tartarus update.

Hey, this comment is obviously a little late, I just recently started watching your videos maybe a couple weeks ago, and I heard in one of your videos (again a great while ago) that you said there aren't many quake live's/tribes ascends around these days, so just to give you a suggestion there is a game called "Warsow", which I am kinda trying to raise awareness about because it is dying. Warsow is hard to explain, but its basically quake live on a sugar high kinda thing. just a suggestion

I play tribes alot, and I am a capper too, and the nitrons nerf was upsetting for a bit. But I do get what hi rez was doing with the nerf to impacts. They just wanted to even out the health/sanic gain ratio. And flag drag was implemented but only in private servers as an option. Its not on pubs, at least to my current knowledge. But you are right. They kinda passed over tribes for smite, which is a little frustrating. Just make vids on what you like to play, cuz its only fun for us if u have fun

Nice vid. I feel the same way about Tribes, I still log on and play a few matches from time to time, but the enjoyment level isn't the same. As for HiRez and Smite: I've been playing a lot of Dota2, that and CS:GO being about the only thing I play lately, and I don't see Smite becoming anywhere near as popular as either Dota2 or League. Especially if HiRez treats it the same way they did Tribes. The only reason i still keep up with T:A updates is because I have 3k gold on my account haha.

It's a shame where they went with Tribes... I spent money on that game, just to get the XP boost. And honestly, it was fun enough that I would have been willing to spend more. But not anymore... now Tribes kind of falls into very predictable routines, and the matchmaking changes made things more difficult, I believe. I've almost stopped playing it entirely, and am focusing on TF2 instead. Tribes is still a good game, but I don't think it's going in a good direction.

Part of it is the logistics of getting 32 people to play at a time. Big games work find for pugs but it is harder to put together tournaments where large numbers like that get together. Either way I think it is dumb to take a game made for 16v16, play 7v7 and act like that really has any bearing on how good at the game you are. Can't change the rules and claim top team like that IMO.

I really love tribes, been my favorite game since halo 1. Something I don't like is the technician for one being an "outlet" for bad players to beat good players at high level. And fractals have always been an issue. However, the speed cap is the worst thing, as the concept of ULTIMATE SPEED in tribes really draws people in, including myself. I've made it a hobby of mine to play Jug chaser, and against the pub capers I can pull of some brilliant stuff. After the speed change I cant anymore.

I was expecting another complaint about how each update seems to produce one overpowered weapon and some really interesting sidegrades. Thankfully, that was not the case with your video. You only mentioned the (slight) nerf that impact nitrons got, which I feel was offset by the increase in impulse you get from disc jumps and such. As a player of Tribes: Ascend (approaching three months this October), I haven't really noticed that shift in resources that you've mentioned from just being in-gam

I've been OD'ing on Dota 2 and LoL lately, more so League than Dota, because I learned League first. Moba games are fucking amazing, and have almost gutted my time in any shooter completely. They are so deep to learn it really gives you that sense of accomplishment when you (finally) do well. I have a Smite key but I am yet to actually play a game. I don't know why. But Moba's are the shit and are going to dominate everything over the next few years multiplayer-wise.

As you can see, almost everyone on here agrees with you, but we enjoy your commentaries. They're a bit more in depth than most ppl. You have a different point of view that we all can relate to. More vids please. It doesn't have to be tribes. I've never played CS in my life and I just immensely enjoyed this video. You're a veteran gamer so even hearing what you think about single player games would be interesting because u know how the old games used to be.

I completely agree about Tribes: Ascend. I personally don't like the way HiRez approaches business practices. When TA came out they shifted everything to the game. What stopped me from playing this game was insane simplification, lots of overpowered stuff and it was focused on appealing to kids with all of it. The game feels boring, skill-less and doesn't pump adrenaline anymore. I can't say I'm a fan of HiRez's attitude. They're always about milking people, they always put $ ahead of fun.

For me, Hi-Rez took way too long to implement stuff we expected with the full release. I played since the very start of the beta up until maybe a few weeks after the cloak and dagger update. Pubs weren't giving me the challenge and competition I desired, and Hi-Rez failed to implement ranked play for such a long time that I just got bored with the game. The "custom" servers didn't feel different enough from the basic gameplay for me to be interested in them.

I agree with most of your points. I understand Hi-Rez is a small developer, but things seem to get worse every patch. The nitron nerf made running routes dramatically harder unless you use explosives, and it made soldier capping better, which is quite awkward. They buffed rage to fix chasing, which feels weird.strange. The new maps don't feel anywhere near as dynamic or interesting as the originals. There are still bugs, like occasionally jets not working, deadstopping on the creativity wall...

yo vol1tion, you did say you wanted comments about what your subs think, well i play all three of hi rez studios games, i like all three, but for me and alot of people including yourself, tibes has been less fun then it used to, and i would play smite more, but the game crashes more often then when i acualy play a game. so Hi rez studios, is doing a good job, but they need to start paying all three games equal attention.

Really? From what you said you act like Hi-Rez has kicked Tribes to the curb and no longer working on it. We keep getting new class weapons, items, and maps. They added CTF Blitz as well. Tribes keeps on giving us updates, so I don't know where you are getting your confusions from. This game still gets much love from the DEVs. What you are bitching about like speed caps, it's called game balancing and Hi-Rez continues to do a great job at it. If you are bored or tired of the game just be honest.

What's this about a speed cap? All I can find by searching is new posts about Hi Rez removing the speed cap back when the game was in beta. So great, why should I bother getting better, I can only go so fast. I can'y help but feel like Tribes isn't as cut out for the F2P model as I thought, seems as though they're really strugglng to make new things that are worth bothering with if the Twinfusor is any indication.

last i checked it was 250 regardless when your running a 360+ route and two seconds after you grab the flag your down to whatever the cap is, at low health because you had to use exp nitrons to get up to speed, with a pack of noob sents shooting at you, just because hi-rez wanted to make it easier for beginners...... it blows

I am and have always been a HARDCORE FPS gamer, QUAKE,CS,BF,TRIBES. I've dabbled in LOL, HON, DOTA 2 and honestly could not get into them. SMITE on the other hand .... I FUCKING LOVE. Its so painfully frustrating, yet rewarding, ACTION PACKED. There is so much strategy, skill, action and potential in this game. I am fucking addicted....... to meth :D !!!

I agree, but I don't think hi res is completely neglecting tribes. I just think that they're trying to change it completely from what it once was. My idea is that it wasn't making enough money so they're trying something new and angling towards a different crowd. The majority of gamers come from games like call of doody and can't take the skill based gameplay.

I feel the same way. I, for one, have never played a PUG. I do not have the skill or willingness to play. This leaves me with public servers, and we all know the players, and lack of communication in there. I got sick and tired of it. Now, I join games and I see 5 players in the game total, for maybe 10 minutes straight. That's just not fun.

I stopped playing after the nerf to impact nitrons. Chasing was all I really enjoyed, and it became more or less impossible after the nerf. I know they've changed Rage in an attempt to buff chasing, but after taking time away from the game, I don't really miss it anymore and I just don't feel much desire to play.

I haven't been playing a ton of BL:R lately, but if I do happen to capture a good game of it, you bet I'll post it.

It's a damn shame that tribes won't be getting any love or attention anymore, even in the smallest. Lately I've been wanting to play it but still unsure because I have no idea if anyone really play it as much anymore. It sucks because I loved this game awhole lot in 2012.

Flag drag is currently something that can be tweaked or disabled on custom servers; it hasn't been implemented in pubs. Some people (especially from the comp scene) regard it as being totally unnecessary, given how powerful snipers and d-stacks are without drag in the first place.

Hiraz is still supporting tribes although not as much, but they are helping run the newbloods tournament along with sandboxclan The comp scene is certainly growing bucause of that I suggest you take a look a the comp scene before you say that the support for tribes has decresed substancialy

Sorry, I misspoke slightly by saying speed cap. I was referring to the "flag drag" implemented in the last patch.

I mostly stopped playing after the whole female voice pack fiasco. It's hard enough getting games to realize that female gamers exist, but when you give out a male voice pack for free the least you can do is give out a female one for free too.

@yakmmosmacktalk you are right, tribes currently has a bit less employees working on the game then smite. It's all how he perceives it. Every sniper now uses the sap20 because it's a high skill high risk/win weapon. I hope next patch will feature rabbitmode.

Well last time tribes excited me alot when i heard about the game but lately there nothing new beside the new mode and my attention are turning to planet side 2 ( which is in beta :D ) so tribes better do some thing or they lost many fan D:

The only part of Tribes that I can stomach is playing Arena 1v1 with a buddy of mine. No bs, just aim for those blue plates. It has become a filler, when other games are down. Don't know if I'm getting bored of the core game or of the developers' negligence.

Meh... i subbed a while back because of the Tribes content. Really though it was less about the actual content and more about the quality and delivery of it. So yeah, looking forward to more vids in the future... whatever they may be about.

Im by no means very good at tribes, but even with the new patches, i havent seen much change in my gameplay other than getting better from practice. The only things i dont like about the new updates are the new maps, esp permafrost for its immense turtling

HR killed tribes because they were too prideful to admit they made poor design decisions.

Yo, Can we get a video after 2 years of you playing the new Tribes map when it will come out :)

last i checked it's 200 for heavies, 250 for meds, and 300 for lights. it doesn't change anything, because you lose a whole 10 sanics per second! either way, return routes only go 250-300...

We get less and less update, they used to come quicker before. CTF Blitz is barely different from CTF, not a lot of work there. It makes speed cap not as worth it. So basically, he's right lol.

Tribes is such a unique game, why are they contending against moba heavyweights instead of nurturing Tribes? Smite is such a terrible game compared to moba games already out there lol

And there's even less now. The Tribes community is dwindling, and Hi-Rez isn't doing anything to maintain their game.

does this mean that ur stopping tribes vids? if you miss the 300 grabs with impact nitrons, you kinda just have to find an alternative like explosive nitrons

I would watch your videos, whether you played cs or torchlight or any other game, i like your commentaries. So don't stop making videos.

I'm not "stopping" Tribes videos, but I've just been playing other games more lately.

I try to it's just the grind to buy items is a bit much for me so I have to wait until I can spend some cash on the game

speed cap? there has been no speed cap. use explosive nitrons for capping, they are even faster than the old nitrons.

I felt that, too, after not playing for a month, but it feels good every time I return.

i also stopped playing tribes about a month ago. I think it'll die in 6 or so months, just as GA did.

i knew what you were referring to, but it doesn't even make a difference at all because it's at 300

Tribes and SMITE have different teams, and they always have. There hasn't been an "employee shift".

Oh okay thanks man I just hadn't heard from you in ages and was wondering

It's like they're catering tribes to the whiny bads in pubs that just deathmatch the whole time

Makes me wanna play CS:GO even though I never played any CS game :P

It's decreased, but Hi-Rez has no intention at all of abandoning Tribes.

have you checked out the PTS (PublicTestServers) alot of interesting 2013 patch content

There's a speed cap?!?!? Well, that's what I get for only playing gen room troll :-P

2 impact nitrons = 1 explosive, so why throw 2 impacts if you can just throw 1 exp ;)

Subbed on tribes, tribes turned to shit, staying subbed for the soothing voice.

Good to see another video from you Brandon, if you want a game to post why not BLR?

it's k. at this point, you seem good enough at cs:go to beat scott to esea invite

It's not for pathfinders. It means they get slowed and can't speed cap as much.

Tribes > Smite. I don't think they should abandon Tribes like they are now.

What do you do for a living, if you don't mind me asking?

Oh, and john smith has stopped playing, too. Such a shame.

you killed me first in this game D: awped so many times mid :P

How did you get netgraph in the bottom centre of your screen?

He's likely referring to the new flag drag.

*they might be ok if your route requires a final nitron

global agenda and tribes arent fun anymore

rewatching this you killed me like 5 times or so D:

Just type "net_graphpos 2" in console.

still no point in using them for capping though

Heh, automatic weapons give me no satisfaction.

I think you've officially stopped. *sigh* :(

Tribes 2 was the last REAL tribes game

So THAT'S why I saw you in the TDM!

*facepalm*

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there is no speed cap...

>using explosive weapons

First

Only tribes

nice vid

What happened to you man?

Tribes 3, king?

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