Her son Douglas says in an interview that he also prayed for his mother and felt the Holy Spirit fill the church he was in. And then she went into remission. He attributed that to the fact that he couldn’t live in a foreign country at that young age so far away from his other parent. So Jesus answered his prayers 🙏🏼
This was one of the most wonderful conversations that I've had the pleasure of listening to--at the very end, Patti saying 'let's take this on the road' I couldn't agree more! moving, impactful, deeply touching... C.S. Lewis and Joy.. their stories, their life together.. their love.. all FOUR! wow)))
This was just wonderful! I loved every minute of it. Thank you so much for the wonderful insights into C S Lewis and Joy and their life together. God bless🙏😘
Thank you for such a most enlightening conversation about the lives of C S Lewis and Joy. I am a fan of C S Lewis's writings and this video was such an informative and delightly deep experience. God bless you both. Lyn Lockrey, Australia.
@@mortalclown3812 Both marriage and celibacy are great mysteries. One needs to offer up both states (speaking as one who is celibate, but who had wanted to marry for a long time. But not now.)
I absolutely loved Becoming Mrs Lewis! It was obvious the depth of research Mrs. Callahan had immersed herself in to write this book. Beautifully written. Thank you for this interview!
WOW , you two nailed "Love " at all its levels in a supernatural way that would make no sense in the natural. God is amazing in the lives of those who are seeking Him. This conversation is one of the most powerful I've ever heard in the hand of two people sensitive enough to handle the depth of it. I watched it three times and wept through it three times Many thanks for sharing your talents with us.
I am currently reading Patti’s book on them and really enjoying it!! So happy I came across this discussion of it! I have since ordered two of her other books!
Excellent book. Very well written. I could not put it down! I like this genre of weaving historical fact with the author filling in the blanks with how things might have been. Years ago I read one about Jane Austen that was written based on letters of hers that was found but the author filled in the blanks. It makes the person come alive.
My mother, the reader of the family, had open heart surgery in 1971. The night before, we were in her room cracking peanuts and cracking jokes. Her doctor didn't like her dream about there being a sausage factory next to the operating room. She outlived her doctors' expectations by 25 years, and was my introduction to Lewis and the Inklings.
Praise God, miracles happen every day, sadly many see them as coincidence. I have saw many in my life so far. There is no other possible explanation. 🙏🏽✝️
I just finished reading and recommending on FB this amazing book. And more amazing is that my husband, who is a science scholar is right now sitting here reading it. I’m loving this interview.
Awesome! So often Scientists ,Doctors and atheists need to be hit in the face with miracles to believe. As my dear cousin ( a believer in Christ) was crossing over, her husband,(a Dr)and oldest daughter saw my cousin’s face morph into her father’s, a godly man. My dearest uncle had came to take her home!
Douglas, Joy’s young son, had an encounter with Jesus at the local church. He ( Douglas ) said he prayed with every fibre of his being that his mother would live. He felt impressed that he needn’t worry anymore and Joy went into remission almost immediately. She lived almost four more years. By that time Douglas was almost fourteen. When Joy got sick again Douglas went back to the church and encountered Jesus again but this time Douglas just prayed, ‘ Thy will be done ‘. Douglas is a great man of God today and his wife Merrie has an awesome testimony ! There are many videos concerning them on RU-vid 🌟✨🕊
I guess it's whatever belief helps them through. Trying to make sense of a tragic senseless death can lead people to religion and faith. There is comfort in the belief of having more time together in heaven. I have an elderly relative who became an atheist and is less crippled by guilt, shame, and self punishment. She enjoys life so much more as she is able to be more present, and giving. She was diagnosed with stage 4 terminal cancer, and the chemo eventually stopped working. Her oncologist encouraged her to travel overseas to her home country, as she wanted to, to see family and friends before admission into palliative care. She left in a wheelchair, and returned two months later without the wheelchair chair. The day before flying she had climbed a mountain with a friend in a different country! That was 8 years ago, and test results from a few days ago continue to be 'all clear'. She is a completely well person with the diagnosis of terminal cancer. Her immune system response is faster than the cancer cell division, despite having the second most aggressive form of cancer cell. It helps that she is older as cell division is slower. She has had two friends who believed in God, one Christian, who have died within months of diagnosis, with the same cancer. My relative didn't pray once, yet her immune cells have learned to fight the cancer cells from the chemo. Her case has been presented at global cancer research conferences. Treatments are being developed with new understanding based on my relative's response to chemo, so her survival will help countless others survive. My relative did not once pray through her ordeal. She does not pray now. Nor did she 'smoke' or 'go off the rails'. (Ha ha!) As an atheist, she celebrates life, science and a new love after being widowed. She does many things, including supporting a mental health charity. Her partner is much older than her, and at 95 years, he continues to do volunteer work. He is also an atheist (and doesn't smoke!) He had a horrific fall and a brain bleed last year, and after a couple of weeks, completely recovered. No prayer involved. My point is that atheist have their testimonies, too! Their life outcomes are no different to people who pray. God is capricious with who he rewards and cruelly punishes, it seems!! It must seem unfair to Christians who pray that my atheist relative and partner are still happily living, when their Christian loved one's may not be. Some will be, and some won't be . It is tragic that praying didn't cure Joy of cancer. I sincerely wish it did! Especially for Douglas's sake.
This book is a good read, a page turner. Back story developed by the author is plausible, in keeping with the characters. Also we learned about CS Lewis' brother. Very interesting.
Loved it. I enjoyed it very much. Thank you for posting it. (BTW., Malta is not in the Indian Ocean--West Africa/Asia/Australia. But in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea--Europe, North Africa, and Western Asia).
That was interesting Joy's mystical experience. I had one , which settled all my questions. I'd been investigating other religions. My life was turned around completely. K
Hi Patti (this is Mary Clinard Borge from Auburn/PhiMu)🤗 Just wanted to say what a fabulous interview/conversation and can’t wait to read your book on Joy. I think it’s really interesting to think of Joy setting her sites on Lewis and going to get him for herself as romantic, as opposed to some kind of predatory, minx-y scheme. I think if we look at how he responded the more he knew her, and especially when she passed away, it doesn’t actually matter whether she planned to meet and connect with him in a deeper way than he initially knew from early on, or it was a “Godincidence” that they became life partners; either way they brought so much to each others’ lives, and beyond them to her sons’, Warnie’s and others’ BECAUSE she sought him out. And for Bill Gresham to want to mess with that relationship after he had been so incredibly, serially unfaithful to her, and abusive to his sons, is just beyond unconscionable. What I’ve read and heard, Bill was almost the opposite of Joy and Lewis, in that he was always looking to debunk mystery and wonderment, and they were experiencing it, questioning it, then giving fully into it together for the good of each other and others! Though he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, my guess, as a trauma therapist, is that Davey had C-PTSD from being raised in an alcoholic, sometimes abusive, fractured home with Bill. This makes me very sad because chances are good he would’ve been mentally healthy had he not been exposed to his father’s narcissistic maltreatment😢. Great interview on a fabulously interesting couple, y’all!! Thanks!!
Thankyou! I didn't know a T.V. version existed until I read your your comment. I looked up the details. For anyone interested: Joss Ackland as C.S. Lewis Claire Bloom as Joy. Director: Norman Stone Original release: B.B.C. 1985.
too bad that the echo doesn't allow us to hear the questions well. Thanks for this amazing insight into Lewis's amazing life. We know the author, but now we can know the man a little better and also give more significance to the amazing woman who chose to marry him.
I read “A severe Mercy” by a friend of CS, Sheldon Vauken... what a great book that gave insight into CS and his relationship with God, a man of integrity & much more...would love to read “A grief observed but am struggling to find a copy... is it still in print?... loved this interview and will most definitely get the book they’re discussing about Joy!
It's going to come out on Kindle next week and I'm definitely going to get it - I remember watching Shadowlands many years ago and I heard this was going to be vastly different...I just finished the biography by Abigail Santamaria and she strongly leads towards portraying this as a seduction and Joy comes across as kind of a calculating, opportunistic minx, but I guess the "truth" lies somewhere in between. Shadowlands made it seem that Lewis would not have married Joy if she weren't dying. it was pretty maulin, though in a quiet way - and from this interview I gathered that Callahan portrays all ther aspects of love in this relationship. So it would be interesting to have this filmed one day too.
Oh I can't wait to hear what you think! Yes, the story is always in between other's opinions. I wanted to know what JOY felt and thought and lucky for us we have letters and poetry!. Enjoy!
Gotta say, the audio for the Q & A was terrible. :( Otherwise just an awesome talk! Yes....take it on the road. I think there are many of us who would benefit from learning more about C S Lewis. Thanks
28:03 Joy’s ex-husband tells C.S. Lewis that she went there to get him-wasn’t that true? That doesn’t sound like it would warrant that…”He was very mean, -a very cruel man… “
She may have wanted to be with him. Sure. But the ex husband is being cynical and putting her down by saying ""get him"", casting her as a predator. It's like rejected men do, they belittle, they call the ex a who're, a bitch,
She DID go off to get him,that was exacly what I learned from her collected letters. As a Christian she had no ground for divorce. She just thought Lewis was more fun. Till the end of her life she kept contact with her exhusband and confided in him,so how impossible can he really have been?
Buy the book and read it. I bought the audio version because I like to listen while I work. The narrative is so monotone it’s monotonous. Clearly it’s a well written book, but the audio version is a horror.
Does God really love when you are going through some really hard time in your life. does he cause you pain and say he doesn't want you when you get into a relationship with others people. you get in a relationship with and promble accursed. I don't know where I am with GOD he say he is not loving me he is trashing me bad for those who really love and saying I hard this person and others please let me know and understand who God really is. he say I don't belong to him he think I belong to the devil.
Leaping as your narrative does, from his loss of his mother, when he was a child, directly to his connection with Joy, and emphasizing his connection with men prior to meeting Joy, is misleading, particuarly considering the length and the depth of his connection to the older woman in the years b4 he met Joy.
That and we all have flaws that are not of our choosing.. PC says she repented over it again and again, and that they forgave each other for their flaws. Inspirational!
I really enjoyed this story but the movie I saw was a big let down only 1 son ? And many of the best stories were poorly done were they would have made the movie done correctly. Like Jack tell Warney he was to get married. Or the fact she never moved to his town down the road and his visits ,both times he asked her to marry him and may more movie destroyed and a wast of Anthony Hopkins.
I wanted to hear more about Joy. Unfortunately, the erroneous anti-aetheism prejudices from the start have set the tone and put me off. 'Smoking' and 'going off the rails'. Really??? Academic credibility instantly lost. I understand that Christianity is inseparable from Joy and Jack's story, but this false and judgemental premise is disappointing. Maybe the book would be would be less biased.
…He started smoking,🚬 the terrible bastard… you better turn your nose 👃 up, I may have enjoyed the great story of CSL if it wasn’t from a big me little you stand point!