This is my 100th video! Part 1 here - • Cub Cadet HDS 3185 - W... In the first video we made it run, but will it mow? We need some parts before we can find out.
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that description of the car parts industry sounds exactly like the firearms and firearms accessory industry. Have seen hundreds percent markup. Also, just looked up OEM honda carburetor: $70. The chinese clone: $20.
Do you know how many hours were on the machine when you bought it? There is a 3185 for sale in my area with almost 1000 hrs on it. They are asking $1200. Seems a little too much considering the hours on it.
I started working on small engines when I was 12 years old and still do. I’m a journeyman electrician also, 22 years in the electrical trade. I can tell you one thing, your one sharp dude! Keep it up!
We've become obsessed with credentials. This is largely because we have outlawed eye cue testing (I know it's misspelled. RU-vid autodeletes my comment if it includes the right spelling). A lot of people are shocked to find out. No other psychological test in our history has the explanatory and predictive power of the eye cue test. That is why they banned it. While not technically illegal in a de jure sense, it's de facto illegal because we very stupidly believe all people and groups are equal and so if you use an eye cue test, it leaves you susceptible to lawsuits. California have actually outlawed testing certain children in school. But it's very real. That's what you're seeing in this video. An above average eye cue.
ok so you're not a 'mustie1' with all his bone yard stuff, but I like the way you work round your problems. I'm subscribed to both of you and you both are well worth my attention, he likes vw's and scrappers, you like bigger stuff like drag line stuff. keep up the good videos. I hope my subscription helps, you help me with ideas too. thanks.
Hey Wes love your video's. I spent 30 years in marine, industrial, diesel & gas engines and diesel electric sets for sale and rent. Enjoy your repairs and ethics. Keep it going. Congrats on your new spiffy shop. I like it.
Before I retired I worked for one of the largest bearing suppliers in the UK, and we were a major supplier of IKO bearings, a quality supplier of rotary and linear bearings. IKO are made by Nippon Thompson, and IKO stands for Innovation, Know-How, and Originality
When I was kid in the 80's we had two 1968 Wheelhorses. Only once do I remember both running at the same time. We were always borrowing parts from one to keep the other running.
Heh. The one I had as a kid came with an aluminum block Briggs and Straton engine. I rebuilt it twice and both times it overheated and scored the cylinder. We had bored it beyond the limits, so I got a free cast iron bore Kohler out of an ancient 3 wheeled golf cart that went through a flood. I got the engine freed up, rebuilt the carb and ignition, put it in the tractor, and it's been running for 20 years. My dad still uses it some.
Wes, I am in my late 70's and remember. as a kid, when helping my father in the garage, working on cars and him saying something was fubar. At that time I never asked what it meant. It is really funny hearing a young person using it today. Good on ya.
I know all about the Cub Cadet price gouging. I needed a spindle assembly for my Cub Cadet. I called the dealer they wanted $120 for one. I used the PN for the assembly and ordered the exact same part off of Amazon for $26
Remember old Roy from the Boyd Coddington show? When I watch you fix this old mower all I can hear in my head is Roy hollering: "Why do we only work on junk!? Why do we even bother with this stuff!" LOL! As always, great video!
13:00 to 17:20 should be a standalone video. Brilliant insight about parts I had never heard of. Proper title, description, and hashtags would rake in the views and comments.
Nice job ding that up. 👍 My parents had a cub cadet with a plow and mower from the early 70’s when I was a youngster. They took care of it and it lasted until 2004 when the transmission went bad and it cost to much to fix. They sure don’t make them like they use too.
Wess you remind me of a friend I had known for 42 years. He was like you he could fix or build anything. He passed a few years ago and I miss him very much. He was the guy that made your computhane hammers. His brother still makes those same hammers 🔨. Different name on them now. Name was John C. Trusty Jr. He was a genius in my point of view ,his brothers are still at it. Thank you
I did the same thing with the ball joints in my backhoe's control linkages. Just got 4 of them off of McMaster for around the same price case wanted for 1. Great vid as always Wes!
Thumbs up for the socket press action. lol Then later in the video you have an actual driver set. Now maybe I am the last person on the internet using sockets. Sounds like cub cadet parts are about 30%higher than Deere.
Serious old time skills rebuilding the deck. Things my Dad would do, which is who I learned from. You bought it right for sure given what you put in it, parts and time. One like that sold privately here in Mi. for 2k but it was in very good shape.
Wes same thing in the aerospace industry I worked in my whole life. They actually make a lot of their profit off of special tools and system test equipment. They also make a profit when the aircraft return to the manufacturer for major overhaul and updates. 👍🇺🇸
Great video Wes. I think you are spot on as to price (s) purchase & sale. Just throwing this out there for what it's worth. With the advent of filming your repair's, i.e., that you can show a potential purchasing customer all repair's made to an item, if that wouldn't translate to being able to ask say for an extra 10 or maybe even 15 percent additional. As I'm commenting, you may have already sold this tractor, but just something to consider say on your next project, i.e., document all repair's via video camera of your choice. As you explained for the Tie-Rod ends, I would think the same would apply to the Blade Cutting Housing Assembly's, i.e., Club Cadet doesn't make them, they just purchase the aforesaid item, in bulk. I'm glad you have learned on your own the *Eleventh Commandment.* For those who may not know, just what in the world is the *Eleventh Commandment.* ANSWER: Eleventh Commandment = Thou SHALL NOT PAY RETAIL.
I like Mustie1 too. He could work on the space shuttle. But you are dang smart too and have an excellent channel that is going to continue to grow not only because of your skills and ability to teach but also because of your personality. Thank you very much for these videos.
what i was told about the spindle seals on a cub cadet forum.........Normally, one would put in seals so the lips retain grease inside. BUT since we have grease fittings in the shaft, if we did that and began greasing, one of the seals would be forced out, usually ruining it. so install one seal "upside down" so while greasing, any excess will harmlessly work out around the seal. Some prefer to do the bottom seal inverted, others do the top so they can see the grease coming out while greasing.(if the belt guard if off)
Good for you $200. Kohler make a great engine, we have several and have been reliable. "No more rent", nice. Take care Wes. Good luck with the move. Looking forward to seeing your new shop.
Those plastic bushings on the wheels are a real "education" for a non-mechanic like myself. My old MTD Yard Machine, which I plan on keeping until it just falls out from under me, uses those plastic bushings. What I did not know is you HAVE to know which ones as there are two different kinds and using the wrong ones just means you wasted your money. Luckily, my shop knows my machine and gave me the correct ones. I thought the steering mechanism was wearing out but it was just those crazy bushings. Once I replaced them the machine steers and handles like brand new with no play at all in the steering. The things you learn even at my age.
Ive never seen Mustie use a lathe or a bearing press so you are two up on him. I knew you weren't him when you didn't totally dismantle the carburetor. By the way didn't he also move into a new shop? Nice job enjoyed the video.
Hey Wes luv your vids!Got a little trick for ya!To keep grass from stocking to the inside of deck clean down to bare metal make sure it s really dry ..make solution of used engine oil and a little bit of wax gently warmed slather on and put out in the hot sun to bake .....works great!
Hi Wes, I am a new sub to your channel. Love your humor and references to Mustie1. LOL In the recent past i repaired mowers and small engines for the local community. Just for the record, I HATE CUB CADET. High prices, complexity, and poor quality. I found that I could get almost anything for CC on Ebay for a lot less, from PTO clutch to belts to bearings, etc. That goes for all other mower parts. Went to the manufacturer for part numbers and searched on Ebay for that number. 95% of the time Ebay had the part for cheap and free shipping. Just catching up on your past videos. Thanks for sharing and happy you got a place with your own shop.
Seems like the prices for Cub Cadet stuff is about the same as John Deere which definitely is expensive. But it seems to be well built. I did some work in the MTD factory where this tractor was built, so I have a bit of a soft spot for them.
Really enjoyed the repairs. I've replaced bearings in idler pulleys before by drilling out the spot welds or rivets that hold the 2 pulley halfs together and reassembling with pan head bolts and lockouts. Seemed to work fine and ez to replace the bearings the next time.
One sure sign of a chain store lawn mower is a front axle made from pressed steel bits welded together. All of the really heavy duty ones have cast front axles.
Tractor supply has a good price for the belts. Working on junk is good practice as we are all getting cheaper and wanting to get by as cheap as we can. If you are going to toss the old pulleys let me know I have been welding mine for a couple years now and I weld about as good as I can see any more. Be cautious on the blades you buy, I got some that bent when I was mowing tall grass. Also I used a piece of EMT as a sleeve in the front axle where it steers because that wears fast. You did an awesome job a lot more than I would have. The tires stay up if you add the green snot since they run at 20 pounds a tight corner can roll the bead.
You did a great job, my experience has been the transmissions are a major problem, I ran a case mower for years it was highly complex over built machine for a mower, hydraulic drive, Now I bought a new 0 turn Bad Boy, I really like it, great mower,
I started following mustie about the same time the lumber truck got finished. He did almost exclusively VW stuff back then (on the channel, probably not in real life). He did not start as a small engine guy, at least as far as I know. That 50 years of flea-marketing and roadside trash picking really pays off.
Very nice. I have its smaller brother. Got it for a fair price at 300 bucks running and mowing but needs some work like yours. But I figured when I wanna start painting my Kubota G1800 itll be nice to run to keep from having alot of mower down time. Good advice on your videos too! One mower brand I've had great luck with is Honda. Have a rear engined snapper style one and a HR215 self propelled. Parts are pretty high but they are definitely awesome. And Cub cadets like these and the older ones are very great and with decent maintenance should last forever.
Wes, your wife said she wants a new seat on her mower and USB outlet. Did you replace hydraulic fluid too? How about a new dash for the mower, temp, fuel, oil pressure, etc. Good repair video and new shop tour soon.
Wes, Thanks for interesting videos. You tend to draw a veil over any machining you do, perhaps thinking Steve Summers and Abom79 have that topic covered, but I quite like watching machining. I originally came to your channel when you found that $100 mill - and we never did see that in use!
Sure you did. I used it a few months ago in the video where I built those custom fixtures. Personally, I enjoy seeing setups and custom tooling, but I find actual machining to be quite boring. The analytics show that most people agree. People skip over the machining.
Well edited video Wes. I enjoyed it. Doesn't have to be machining. I like repair videos just as much. That mower had seen better days. Having the deck sorted is nice. That's where most the damage and wear takes place anyway. That is as long as the owner doesn't run the engine out of oil. They all use a small amount and I would see it every day. Some owners would never checks the oil and throw a rod or lock them up. Them they would check and see it had no oil then proceed to fill it with new oil and scream warranty. Not even smart enough to fill it with used oil 1st😉. All day every day. Nice buy
Thanks Steve! Did you work at a dealer? My dad was a small engine mechanic at a dealer when he was in college. They sold Homelite saws and trimmers, and Dixon riding lawn mowers. I think he knows more about Homelite engines and Dixon friction drive mowers than anyone above ground.
@@WatchWesWork Yes, I did work at a dealer for 3+ years. We did Briggs, Tecumseh, Kohler, Onan. Murry, MTD . This has been 18+years ago. Learned tons of things that I still use today. The guy that owned the place was good at what he done.
Interesting! My dad liked the small engine shop so much that he tried to buy it. They never made a deal. Things would have been quite different if they had!
I had a Sears rider that ran forever and when the mower deck would be cracked or broken I would braze it back together the brass is softer then steel welding and holds up well to the vibration of a lawnmower.
Sorry, it's a Sun Runner, not a Sun Star. Looks like this one spencersales.hibid.com/lot/72122-78936-20739/simplicity-sun-runner-lawn-mower/. It's kind of a cool old machine, but the deck is shot and it's really small.
I got a cub 3225 for 700 bucks with a 50 inch deck and the snow blade hitch it`s a beast 23 hp. kohler. My wife loves it, now she will mow the 3 ac yard.
I have an opportunity to purchase the same machine but the engine is and cooling fins are caked with oil and the hydraulic fluid leaks. 700 hrs. any thoughts?
Excellent work on the Cub Cadet. Bought for $200, 500 and odd for dealer parts and another couple of hundred on bits and ends and of course your time, that doesn't leave any profit if you sell at $800! But at least you have the machine. Maybe a wash and wax... At least you now have a viable machine. Good luck with it.
Yeah, there's no margin on these things. If you watch Mustie1, he rarely messes with riders that need deck work. It's just too expensive. But for my own uses, it makes perfect sense.
Lol 🤣. That parts racket is definitely true, In every industry. I work for a company that services commercial kitchen equipment I order part for a steal .. hell I've ordered parts From the supplier of my supplier.
You see it everywhere. I worked in a shop once that had radiant floor heat and the heating unit died. The boss got some astronomical quote for a replacement. He called in another guy who look at it and said it was just an off the shelf swimming pool heater available from almost any pool supplier for a fraction of the quote we got.
Can say... that is the first tapered roller spindle that i have ever seen. All the ones that i have worked on are deep groove ball. LOL nice to know that there are actually decent quality spindles out there.
If MTD were to rivet a real tag to the machine, what a day it would be. The sticker that came on these 3000 series fell off or disappeared with the first good cleaning. I'm not wanting to be a parts catalog for identifying a machine, I just want to walk up and read one simple data tag that tells us exactly what we're messing with. Rant of the day. Kudos to Kohler, their stickers usually stay on the engine housing and only fade a little bit. My rant of the day.
I think I liked it more then a musty1 video. Getting a bit over seeing carb cleaning videos. Keep up the good work it’s beyond me why you don’t get 10 times views on your videos
We'll get there. It takes a lot of time. Mustie has been posting videos for over 10 years and he has over 1,200 videos. That's more than 2 a week for 10 years!
Love the videos Wes, really like the way you explain your thought process, but one thing that's annoying is the way US posters say how easy it is to just get on the net and order what is needed from McMaster Carr. McMaster Carr and many other suppliers you guys rely on don't post to those of us outside the US. It's kind of like shaking a bag of sweets in front of a kid.😥😥😥 Cheers Eric
I got an MTD 12.5 HP B&S engine and 38 inch deck for FREE from the local Landfill. Only had to put a battery and gas in it plus tubes in all 4 tires. Total cost was $85. CAD.
And if it has ground engaging equipment like a Wheel Horse then it's a straight up garden tractor. Breaking plow, belly blade, snow blower, sickle mower, and can take on a front end loader.
I don't remember the exact words he used, but Henry Ford once said that he would have gotten out of the car business in a second if he could just sell the parts.
Nice job, enjoyed going thru the repair. I am in New Zealand and just the other day accidently put petrol into a diesel van. AA tow truck, home, next day drained it and refilled with diesel. The fuel container that I used to get the diesel with is RED and it has written on it USE FOR PETROL OR DIESEL FUELS. So I used it for DIESEL. There you have it!!!
Yeah, that's not good. The petrol doesn't lubricate so it's hard on the pump or injectors. I worked on an engine once that destroyed the turbo after running petrol instead of diesel. High exhaust temperatures I guess.
@@WatchWesWork I would think that with any computerized engine management system, there would be sensors that would automatically shut down the engine before the petrol got to the injectors. In the old days, with petrol, diesel engines piston tops would blow through with the wrong fuel.
Well it was definitely a computer controlled engine that I worked on. I'm not sure how the computer would know what kind of fuel was used. It's a bad deal. I would think a common rail pump would take a beating if you filled up with petrol.
@@WatchWesWork Wrong fuel mistakes happen all the time especially where the petrol, diesel pumps are located next to each other. In New Zealand, the majority of vehicles are Japanese and I am sure they would have an auto shut down design in their vehicles. I find their engineering is thorough. Must look into this shut down system - ie if it exists.
Data plate on mine is on frame rail just below your fuel filter. My is a HDS2165 585 hours on a 16 hp Bregs & Stratton, runs great does not use oil.. Has snow blower attachment.
I've had a 2145 C/C for 23 years. While it is an MTD built machine it has the tapered roller bearings in the deck hydrostatic and shaft drive. Have had to rewire because of cheap connectors that get loose and burn out. Onan motor keeps on running flawlessly.
May be you should look at 19:09" in the vid, depenting on the problems with the steering. It looks like the hole front axel is wobling when there gets tention on it from the steering cylinder.But may be it's only me, because I don't know hvow the front axel is mountet to the frame.Thanks for another nice and interesting video.
Yup, that is a robust machine. Good luck on the rest of the move, and don't let that Brian guy shame you. I know know his forman won't let him buy seal drivers when a socket works perfectly well ;-)
Enjoyed the video thanks. I've got one parked in the yard waiting in a motor replacement or rebuild. But it was a mighty machine that's for Sure. I miss riding it actually.
Hay Wes, you seem to be thin-skinned. Maybe they should walk a mile in your shoes! The armchair skeptics that is, Just keep up the good work. You are teaching! Talking is what you are supposed to do! I personally am glad I found your channel
You can get the serial number of the engine if you are really worried about what model this is. You will need it for a lot of the parts. You can call Cub Cadet and give them the serial number off the engine. Most of the time, they can cross reference it and tell you what model it is for certain.
Great video. I'm interested to know - would you have still bought it if you knew how much work and money you needed to put into it to get it fixed up? I'm not being critical because, believe me, I've been there and hindsight is a wonderful thing :-)
Good Fix I watch Mustie and you now be you Musties done this for years bet he watches you too i di this at one time fix anything no more will watch you much more fun and i dont hurt so much and i love big stuff too keep it up keep learning
