Thank you so very much for doing this video! Because I was wondering what the difference in size is, when they are side by side, and you demonstrated that, and even took the time to tell the burn amount and duration. Thumbs up! I'm subscribing!
Nice little set-up you have there with that Grizzly Cubic stove! I grew up with my dad always installing any type of wood heat and cooking stove in our campers which used he usually built the campers as well. One time he used a timber frame and cardboard for the walls and ceiling because he didn't have enough wood to complete the camper so used what he could scrounge to complete the job with. Dad was very resourceful. You know I am really proud of my father for always keeping food and a roof over our heads with all 8 kids and my mother:) My dads 87 and he is now completing an old bus 49 bus and he has totally re-built the whole motor! My dad loves the Lord and continues to amaze me with his ability to do what he does for his second family with 14 more kids added to mix of our family:)) I hope I didn't reminisce to much! But your cute little stove brought back many memories of my early childhood. Thank you for updating us I just started watching your videos today! Love your videos!
yes, I also found you by accident but the vids are interesting your both seem very friendly down to earth people and the lady makes me laugh with that cheeky smile. God bless you both.
That is awesome!!! I love that the percolator actually perks on the stove. The other stove made me think coffee cup warmer. I would love to put one of these in my barn. I have the same percolator in cobalt. There is nothing better than the smell of the fire, perked coffee, and bacon frying. I like the bigger viewing window. Thank you for sharing!!!
Thanks for this review. Just discovered you guys and loved the testimony video. We are fixing up a cargo van and was thinking about using a little stove like this. Again, thank you! Nice to see other people in the RV camp who love the Lord too!
Frank Burns a medium sized wood stove can heat as much as 1500 square feet so I'm sure in a camper it's plenty. Especially if you put a little fan to blow the heat around
I almost clicked off this video till I saw your comment!!! LOL I was looking for a winter camping stove and thought "these are way to big to transport" Glad I saw your comment and continued to watch!
I'm planning to get a Grizzly for my shed/cabin (338 sq. ft.). Thanks for the review, Bill and Elizabeth. (And ignore those folks who were offended about you being "political" recently. Some folks just look for reasons to be offended !)
When I was 18 I helped a friend build a very nice home out of a old school bus. My friend was a welder and hand crafted a wood stove using 1/4" thick steel plates to use in his new home on wheels. My point is this...whenever you use a wood stove or other like minded heater such as a hearth with chimney in a normal home you ALWAYS have a flu to draw the smoke out of your structure. As this smoke and heated air goes up and out the same volume of fresh air has to replace what goes up and out right? So when this new air comes into your abode it is the same temperature as it is outside when its drawn inside thus actually slowly cooling the very air you"re trying to heat up. This is going against what you are trying to achieve. Now back to my friends home on wheels..... When we installed his handmade wood burner he made the legs out of black steel pipe using 3/4" . A same sized hole was cut into the flooring giving access to the outside air thru these pipes when they were mounted vertically on the floor and attached to the underside of his stove that also had holes into the bottom of the stove housing giving the stove all the fresh air from outside (through these attached leg pipes) without the need to draw any preheated air from the inside of his home. He fashioned the dampers at the top of each front leg pipes and could quite easily adjust any and all air flow at the touch of small handles. This little added feature to his home stove/heater made all the difference in the world when it came to heating that old bus. In fact sometimes it actually made it too hot in there until he learned how to accurately set the leg dampers. So to get the optimum heating from any home hearth or box wood burner try to figure out a way to have it draw it's air from the outside not from inside of your home. Outside air is a bit more oxygenated making for a better burning and possibly hotter fire anyways! Remember that whatever air goes up and out the smokestack/chimney it needs to be equal to what needs to be drawn from somewhere else and you'll be surprised at the lower cost and more efficient way your heating device will be by getting your burner's air from outside............ Bye for now, a true survivor Me
Yeah I've been thinking about this too on a boat, but am thinking of using an old (unused) chimney fitting, connected to a 3" heavy duty plastic duct, run inside cavities, to underneath the burner. The duct can just be capped if necessary, for damping, but I havent worked out if all the variables involved would increase or decrease the heat on the boat, overall, with the ducting capped...will just have to experiment. Also I'm 'catching' the heated air above the burner, and funnelling that into more insulated ducting in the cavities, which uses a cheap little 12v computer fan to exhaust the warm air into the v berth at the bow, so the sleeping area is warm and toasty too...am also looking at those steel convection heat fans to sit on top of the burner itself, bit will probably make my own, as they cost a fortune...
You do know new stoves don't use a flu right? Also I believe as of now it's against the law to use one for epa reasons look it up ik new wood stoves don't use a flu and say NOT to use one in directions
Definitely want to add a wood burning stove to our RV; placement of one will be the problem in ours because of the floor plan. Pretty much sold on The Grizzly based on watching your video. Nice to see you have a kitty too. We take both of our cats with us anywhere we go with the RV. Thanks for testing both of these and for sharing this very informative video.
I am very impressed with this stove and have been doing some investigating on it. I found out that they recommend that the chimney pipe be completely straight. No bends. I see you have it with two bends so that makes me wonder if that’s the reason your glass goes black because of low air flow. Hmm 🤔 I’m definitely getting one of these for sure. Thanks for the review.
HI Bill & Elizabeth....chatting to you from across the pond! Love the new wood burner, might take more wood....but you will save in electric, for your coffee pot,I love coffee! Your video's are super...no irritating loud music! Love to you both x
+Tinyhouse Prepper (Live simple. Live free) Oh yes! Please keep doing your videos without music!!! Music is annoying and some videos have the music turned up so loud that I can't hear the speaker. I strongly prefer talking videos without musical background.
Bill . I came way back here to see once more this video. I am so glad your letting people know about heating there homes. Thank you for making this video. ..GOD'S JOY.
Your video sold me! I ordered the Grizzly. 5 weeks. Cant wait. My trailer is only 21' but I am in snow country and the point of the Grizzly burning longer thru the night without being stoked is why I decided on the larger one.
I think a heat soak would make a big difference. we placed slabs of stone around our stove and once the stone heats up it stays hot for around 6 hours and very warm to touch for another 3 hours.
Thanks for the review. We're planning on buying a travel trailer, looking for a 17 to 21 ft. long. I think that cub would be a nice heating option. A gunny sack of pre cut wood would work great for a weekend of camping, along with other wood you can scrounge around for, at the camp site. Thanks for sharing.
What I was waiting for was an explanation of the flue and why it looks different from others I've seen. That and some info on installation. But thanks for what was there to see. The cub will work for my application.
This wasn't an installation video. It was a comparison review video. But we have a playlist with 9 videos about the stoves. The first video in the playlist is the installation video. ru-vid.com/group/PLD231j5QApVI-bG2XWKWt9-k9xnzV_opZ And the flue is like that to create a cleanout at the bottom so the creosote can be cleaned easier.
Here I am at the end of the 22-23 winter knowing these may go on sale soon so I am shopping. A couple of other notes...I loved this living space you all were in. It seemed so sweet and homey. But I'm looking at Ms E and this is a few year later and Elizabeth looks awesome these days. The snowbird thing is looks great on you. The last thing is, I love how Bill always looks to Elizabeth when talking. Its just beautiful. Makes tears...and is very happy.
I just love that little grizzly it is as cute as the little cub, I am thrilled they work so good - good thing I was a 2nd and 3rd shifter most of my life in the medical field and an insomniac so I will have no problem popping out of bed to refill the little bugger when it needs it. Great video on the installs.
You are such a sweet couple and very genuine. Love your in depth videos! In this age of frantic rushing about, your videos are soothing and educational. Thanks for sharing your insight on the stove! I wondered which one to get myselfl
Dear brother and sister, this is the most wholesome, enjoyable video I’ve seen in a long time. Thank you for your beautiful review and peek into your glorious lives.
A buddy of mine lives in a 16 foot delivery truck he bought to retire in and I presented him with a small present. The present? A bag of charcoal. What do I want with charcoal he asked? You like freezing in winter? Ever try to put out a charcoal fire? He now buys a couple of bags a week as he can restart the fire with firewood from the leftover charcoal fire overnight. Loves it as he says it's so nice to wake up to a warm room. Food for thought.
I noticed in this video you have changed the setup of your flue pipes, I assume for easier cleaning? Would love to see a video on why and how you changed them over. Thanks for some great videos on this little stove. winter is coming!! stay warm!
Longsnowsm ...... good idea... I am still looking for my camper too and I also have bought items that i will be needing when I start living in my RV or Van.... I don't know what your budget is for getting an RV...But, I have found a few on Craig's list... I am checking on distances 100 miles from where I live......I too think I will get the grizzly
The flue pipe is a basic stainless heating pipe ( like an oil furnace would have ) it's made from a flat stainless sheet cut to size then rolled formed. They press ( hydraulic press ) both edges ( seems ) together in a male / female locking pattern. 1 end is pressed inward in a slightly smaller corrugated ( rippled pattern )so both pipe ends fit tightly together, roughly 4 inches deep. Inside flue pipe diameter is roughly 3 inch in dia.
On another video, he said he changed it because there was so much creosote buildup in the cub that he head to clean it every 2 mos (although he said he often cleaned it every 4 weeks). He said that he didn't want all the creosote falling into that second upper chamber that burns the woodsmoke a second time before it goes up the chimney. By having that configuration when he scraping & cleaning, the creosote falls to the side, out that side piece on the flue. He said there was so much creosote because the CUB is so small that it would only get up to 300 or 308 degrees when he first stoked it (that's the optimal temp, 300-500 degrees, to burn creosote (based on the temp flue guage he had). After stoking, the temp would go right back down to 225 degrees, therefore there is always a lot of creosote even though he only uses hardwoods (like Oak) and would leave the flue or damper wide open ALL the time to maximize heat output. There's a 30 min video he did on this topic. But he took down the one that explained in detail how he did it.
I love being able to come back to your old videos when I need the information. I just built a small recreational gypsy wagon and I'm looking at this mini woodstove but trying to decide between the grizzly and the cub. I think the smaller.
I just love these little stoves, because of you and Elizabeth giving them the thumbs up I am thinking about getting a couple of them. Got to check up how much they cost.
Thank you so much for your input! Since some comments are just trolls, We will look into website!! Have a great one and again Thank you!! We have a House but the master bedroom and bathroom are so cold during the winter months in the Rockies.
Enjoyed the review. Will definitely look into this mini stove for my, hopefully soon, purchance of a camper trailer. I love my wood burning stove. Watching the flames is a must and the heat is great! Thanks
I found a trick. Go to a furniture store that uses hard wood and they will give you a pallet load of scrap. For a stove that small it would be perfect.
Wilderness living is supremely better with over 100 acres of hardwoods FREE, plus more solitude, serenity & peace of mind, excluding taxes. YOGI & BOOBOO ARE THEE ONLY CRIMINALS!!
Wanted to let you know that this video helped me make a decision on which stove to get for my boat. I think i would have made the wrong decision without you hard work. Love the videos! God bless brother.
This is exactly what I was looking for, after many hours of looking around the net. I came across your video. I just moved into Wa. State and have been hit with some cold weather in our 1st month here and wanted to have an alternative in heating our 398sq. ft. tiny home. Worried that we might loose our electricity at anytime do to the weather, this would be the answer for my wife and I and our two furry friends from freezing to death if we did loose power. Thank you for a great in depth video of the stoves. You helped make up my mind and I will follow up on your other videos and also subscribe.
Did you end up getting a Grizzly? How did you find it in your 100sq ft space? I'm deliberating about getting one of these as I have a ~150sq ft space to heat. Would like to cook on it too, but would be concerned about it being too much heat for the space...
@@rosstituteuk No, I wound up with one my friend gave me, a real woodstove, small, but way bigger than these. In my tiny space, I have to open a window when I cook, even in severe sub-freezing weather, but I can choke it right down and still wake up to a warm room.
@@ozzymandius666 Thanks for the reply Michael. Do you have any issues with the larger stove putting out too much heat ? If so, is opening a window sufficient to deal with it, or do you have any other tips or tricks? Thanks again, appreciate your thoughts!
Am looking at one of these for my camper to get rid of the horriffic amount of propane I am going through, and to heat it all winter as I stay in it while building a log cabin...may even use it in the cabin later. Great. videos, informative and gives a good idea of how this stove will work.
Thanks for your efforts in informing us citizens. I love wood stove heat and realise the best hardwoods to use are locust and hickory which can be hard to find unless your on the east coast or perhaps upper NW in oregon/washington state. That said, have you stoked the Grizzly w/ these woods , And if so, the analysis? Thank you
you commented on the glass turning black with soot. i have a Kent Sherwood with glass, in use yearly since 1986. i can keep the glass clean by building the fire right against it and running the stove 'wide open'. if i cut the air to slow it while i'm sleeping, the glass will turn black with soot overnite. the manual says don't cut the air more than half, but they want the glass staying clean. i open the damper wide and cut the air almost off at nite, i don't care about the glass being clear, i like the convenience of having instant fire/heat again when i get up and open the air slide and close the damper. sometimes this technique will cause the stove to cough, that's why i open the damper all the way so it mostly goes up the chimney.
Getting used to the new name, and enjoying the videos. these are great any time. Wow!Cold and a blizzard in April! So glad we dont have to deal with that here. I love the coffee maker on top.
Wow! I'm never gonna complain about having to stoke my 19K BTU woodstove in my camper every 3~3.5 hours when it's 20~30F ever again. Heck, if I load it to max, and run the damper full close, I'll still have just enough coals left to self relight on its own after 12 hrs.
Have you thought about installing the Cub in the sun room? The necessary clearance for the heater might create the need to reorganize a little but the extra time you'd get to use/enjoy the space might be worth it. Just a thought :)
I really enjoyed this review/comparison. You provided concise, pertinent information that helped me make a decision. I wish more RU-vid videos were like this.
How do you add a Hotshot? Why would you need the HotShot electric water heater if the fireplace heats the water already? Need help visualizing this. Thanks.
I just found your channel and you two are just too cute! New Subscriber. Thanks for your fun, informative and necessary videos. The Lord bless you and keep you.
In a green house, with plenty of heat absorbent rocks and tiles in it. Also, underground tube heating would be nice, too. It's warmer underground and air is warmer. Nice place to be in the winter. Can grow certain foods, too.
Good video. I remember when these first came out and I knew they were way to small for anything bigger than a van. Sure they'll heat it but need to be filled every hr. I built my own years back out of a piece of oilfield casing and put it in my 23 foot class C motorhome which I lived in for 4 years. Canadian Rocky mountains. It was a great little stove but if I did it again I'd have added about 4 more inches to it which would have added mass plus the longer log/more wood. I was able to get 6hrs on the cold nights and that was with no skirting and looking back I used dead standing wood and didn't know how much better dry seasoned wood made a difference.
What a great series of videos on tiny wood burning. You both did a fantastic job of showing us all the great details of these two wonderful little stoves. There is nothing like the heat from wood. You did not mention the evolution of the flue pipe. In the previous vid in the install it seems to be under designed in protecting the pass through. single wall is too dangerous and should have well more than only 1in clearance. However the amount of time you have used the stove shows you do seem to have reliability. As a builder of both pellet and wood stoves myself. it would be good to see the manufacturer incorporate an air wash design to the glass, it would allow a crystal clear view of the fire full time. Also, I have found that a heavy pair of welding gloves allow me to reach into my stove and place wood exactly where I want it without the worry of burning my hand. Thanks again for the great vids.
Wow, the perspective at first makes it look like the stove is far in the background and about 2' x 3. Then he reaches and moves the handle and you realize that thing is *tiny*
An old trick for cleaning the glass on your wood stove is to take some newspaper, wet it and dip it in the ashes. Scrub the glass with it and it will take all that soot right off.
Victorian cook books come with a cleaning section that essentially tells you the recipe for sops, rube oil or tallow on ashes chared pots and pans (incase newspapers and water don't work the fist time around try one go of that and remove soap /scum with newspaper and water).
Thanks so very much for your Review, we bought both lol, we appreciate the effort's you put into your posts and content, the love you 2 show has warmed our hearts" lol" hopefully as much as Grizz Cubic mini,....So happy for you and your new home but this little place you had,it sure made my Wife & I want to come and try a front room camp out&rost some marshmallows lol, a great channel and you 2 make it so comfortable,not hard to tell you have your hearts in a cool place with our Creator,Praise Jah, congratulations on the new home Luv&Peace Sean&family from Saskatchewan Canada 🙂✌⚘
I love you guys and pray all goes well with you. I hope to some day soon do something similar to what you have done. The Lord bless you and keep you in His loving arms.
I just ordered my Grizzly. I'm so excited. One thing I didnt remember you mentioning is the duties I'd have to pay for bringing it in from Canada. Holy cow! I'm in shock! $174 and some change. Wowza! There goes my gas money for the next two weeks. :-/ Still, Im so happy to have been able to save up to get one. Another video (not your's) mentioned it took them a month to get it after ordering. The web site said it would take 4 days shipped through DHL, so I'm hoping things have changed. Anyway, wanted to thank you for helping me to choose the Grizzly for my travel trailer. Lo e your channel! God bless.
What about cleaning out the ashes? I heard there is no ash tray and one had to dig out the ashes? Which is easier to clean? How often do you have to clean out the ashes?
Thanks for the vid ! .... hot fires generally will "scrub" both the stack and door glass. It's the same principle as any efficient combustion, hotter is usually better ... going to get the cub for my "tiny camper" redo.
I subscribed yesterday. I'm still new here. Questions: Where did you purchase your wood burning heaters?? Where did you get your percolator? When you leave your home do you keep the wood burning? Could you put a little cat door for you fur baby to go in and out? You're very handy man. Your wife is very sweet😊
We got the woodstove here. cubicminiwoodstoves.com I think I purchased the percolator at a Cabella's store. Yes we can leave the woodstove burning when we leave, but it only burns for a couple of hours. Here is our woodstove video playlist. ru-vid.com/group/PLD231j5QApVI-bG2XWKWt9-k9xnzV_opZ
I can see using one of these in my small garage, but at night in an RV? I wouldn't want to have to wake up 5 or 6 times to feed the thing wood. You'd get back in bed and think, "I'm half-asleep, did I shut the door tight or set the air right so I don't burn the place down?". By the time you got back to sleep, it would be time to get up and feed it again. You'd die of sleep depravation. Maybe if they were self-feeding pellet stoves it might be worth it.
This tiny stove is the only thing that will fit in our RV. Anything larger needs several feet of clearance on all side, and we just don't have the room. We were THRILLED when we discovered that this little thing would work for us. We also have other sources of heat. Since we never move our RV, we were able to upgrade the electric service from 30 amp to 100amp. That allowed us to add electric baseboard heat. So now we use the wood stove about 18 hours a day. When it goes out at night the electric backup heat comes on. The stove saves us hundreds of dollars every year. I think it paid for itself the first winter. Also, we are preppers. We are on the grid, but we are prepared to survive completely off the grid if necessary when the power goes out. And that includes buying pellets. We live in the woods, so wood is free and readily available (if I chop it). We don't want to be relying on buying pellets - they might not always be available. If the power goes out, we can still heat the place. We just pile on lots of blankets and night and restart the fire in the morning.
@@LiveSimpleLiveFree Save your money then and move to warmer climates where you won't need wood at all. If the SHTF your fuel needing RV will be useless in a matter of days.
@@johnchase4408 We have lived in the north all our lives. We are not going to move south, all alone, without any friends or family. We will not leave our kids and grands behind. Our fuel needing RV? No. The RV travel trailer that we live in is set permanently on a piece of land that we own. It does not move. It has not moved since it was set here in 1977!
@@johnchase4408 You would need air conditioning all year round in FL (we used to live there) You can only take off so many clothes. We are in East TN and love our woodstove when it gets wicked cold!
@@oneprincessblue7 I spent more time in FL than any other state growing up. My family has a home in Boca Raton since 1971. I understand what you're saying but I'd never suggest someone living his lifestyle (as I do) to go to the hurricane and humidity state.
I'm going to have to start shouting this out... Years ago, when my son was a young boy, we loved camping and discussed ideas of all things survival. I spoke about an unknown idea I had of a human waste pit, on each defecation adding a sprinkle of fire ash to deodorise, which would also balance acidic urine. I wondered if, once the small pit is full, straw or hey may be optionally mixed in, top the pit with turf for a time to partially compost the matter, then dig up and shape into blocks which are air dried and used for fire blocks as fuel, and very possibly make great fertiliser for agriculture also! I've always wondered why society doesn't seem to know what to do with it's excrement, other than wash it into the water ways??!
Great video. Thanks so much. Am considering this stove for my "eventual" rv build. If I may, hypothetically, if you were running the stove one night but had to move the rv, for whatever reason, could you shut it down and get right on the road or would that be an issue? Also, how high does the chimney need to be over the roof? Would it interfere with solar? Shadow, soot, heat damage?
I don't really know because our RV is not mobile. It's up on blocks. But we subscribe to a channel called Bus Life NZ, they have a little stove similar to ours in their camper bus. They did a video recently showing the bus driving down the road and there was smoke coming out of the stack while they were driving. I'm not endorsing that, I'm just telling you what I saw. Maybe you could call or email Cubic and ask them?
Good talk. Nice to have that comparison of two stoves like that. Listening to you is almost like being there sharing a cuppa and a chat with you. Thanks.
Excellent video folks. We're in northern Alberta where -20c to -40c are our regular winter temperatures. Bloody ugly lol. We just picked up an old camper trailer and I will be spending time in it this winter. I knew about these stoves but wasn't sure which to get. Good review. I'm gonna take a closer look at the trailer and do some measuring to figure out her footage and then decide which stove to get.
I bought this model just before Thanksgiving, and finally got it installed December 21st (delays and scheduling with my installer). I am new to wood burning stoves, as they do not fire up like the conventional fireplace. It has been quite a learning process, but I am getting better. Reading this review says, once again, that I made the right choice. We want our family room and kitchen warm, but not our bedrooms. When I am successful with having a good fire, the stove does the job quite well, like today. I almost argued with the mfg'r about not using a grate, but they finally convinced me that one was not needed, and they are right. I like everything about it, and yes, cleaning the glass with a damp rag and ashes (make a paste) works quite well. I have not yet needed to have an all day fire, because right now Georgia is having a warm winter, but I have no doubt the cold days are coming. What I have found out is one does not have to spend a fortune on a wood burning stove to get one that works (I actually spent more on the stove pipe and fittings). My home is 1600 sq ft and I can tell this is all I need, and what I need. Thanks to Englander for a great product!
It comes with a new pipe. The T: A - soot can fall into the trap rather than back down into the stove and B - is likely so he can clean out the flue without walking on the old trailer roof. It's an old trailer with 2x2 wood framing. Therefore a tall guy like him wouldn't want to risk walking on the roof. These older trailers are not meant to be walked on. Some have a ladder. But that's for accessing the old style luggage bars (if equipped or optioned on the roof) and/or the rare occasion you need to get on the roof for repairs. Annual cleaning and sealing on older travel trailers should be done from a ladder. There are instances where one must get on the roof. The best way is to use planks of wood to distribute your weight over several 2x2 roof supports. Hope this helped answer your questions. Cheers from Seattle.
Great video and perfect timing. I was trying to decide on which one to go with for our sailboat. As crazy as it sounds we actually do get some pretty cold nights here in FL. Were also planning on some northern cruising. Think were going to go with the grizzly. Thanks again for the great video.
thank you so much for your video I have a 27-foot that I just got with a slide I'm used to an older one with the bigger wood stove but there's no room for bigger so I just purchased the grizzly you just assured me I didn't make a mistake thank
Good job on your videos. One suggestion on running small stoves. If you can fit some thermal mass , stone-brick-ceramic, in the flue system you will be able to run wide open for less than an hour. You heat the mass with what now gets lost up the chimney , then the mass radiates back into house. I burn for an hour and then shut my system down for 6-8 hours , works great but I'm heating 2000 sq ft. For info search for masonry stoves , just use your cubit for firebox and make the chimney system masonry.
Well. I don't see America doing that. Some other countries may try it but please don't try it. No matter what others may think, this is a huge country.
Love, love my percolator...!!! Truly the best... Had French press, drip.. Etc. I have at least a 30 yr old faberware, made in New York USA.. All stainless steel, no plastic parts ⭐️