Cubase I/O Sucks - My Workaround 

1. I'm pretty sure that if you turned on the ufx and reopened the project after closing and not saving the project, all your IO would be as it was saved in the project to begin with. 2. If you are brining the project to another studio and they probably have all different IO anyway so I'm not sure what would be gained here. 3. If the other studio happened to have the same ufx, I wonder if all the mapping would be as you had it. Just throwing out some thoughts around the subject.

@@AdamGotheridge I have to repatch my nuendo every time I go between on-the-go work and then being in my studio. It would be better if we could save our own IO profiles and load em. 2. The issue isn't that he has to create a new IO when he gets to the remote location. His issue is when he is back in his personal studio, he has to go through this video's entire process to make it work the way he set it up instead of being able to pull up a saved profile on his IO. 3. he isn't worried about the new place's hardware or interface, its that his previous stored settings from his proper studio get wiped and Nuendo/Cubase doesn't let him save what he spent hours setting up. Then has to burn 20 minutes every time he moves. I don't use nuendo when Im not at my main studio because its a huge waste of time to deal with when Protools or Studio One just lets me do whatever and patching takes a lot shorter time (especially since you can save the whole thing).

@@ProducerDudes I don't understand why don't you load your io profiles in the connections window between your home and on the go setups? Barry's work round would probably work well for the outboard gear as he has many. But the rest of the gear the saved presets are saved global and not on the project. So when the project comes back recall the io presets in the input, output and Control Room sections of the connections window. The issues is the external inserts need to be created as favorites and added one by one. There is no need to individually re assign the inputs and outputs as Barry has do if the presets and favorites were saved in the connections window. When the project goes out to another Nuendo suit the io is done once for the change between each studio and recalled in the connections window for the inputs outputs and Control Room of that suit. This saves much time adjusting each project each time it is in a different suit. I agree the connections panel needs an update to save the other tabs as presets instead of favorites but presets are available and work for 90% of these applications between Nuendo audio suits like your situation of studio to laptop and back. I enjoy the flexibility if recalling inputs separately as input configurations may change depending on the situation and outputs and ControlRoom may not. I hope this helps make your life simpler.

I don't really understand why you experience this issues? Non exciting if you take your time setup everything up right first. 1. All projects should automatically store all I/O configuration inside the project-file. After re opening the project, the I/O configuration should come back exactly the same setup as when you last saved it. 2. Use the Control room feature 3. You can save all I/O setups as presets if you want. 4. You can save also external hardware inserts. That's called "Favorites" in the configuration menu. Hope it helps! 👍🏻 Best Regards Freddie

@@facelessproduction So I think I found the issue I've had? I made a "preset" in control room for the control room stuff and when I went to Inputs a box that said presets was then present. Never seen it before and I've had days where my goal was to get everything put together and good to go. So maybe the control room thing did it. I never used control room because its never been in my workflow and I've never felt the need for it. Either way, thanks for your list of things to try!

^^^^^ This!

Doesn’t work for external instruments and Fx , only ins and outs , and control room

@@AndyGrayedout That is all saved in the project.

@@AudioAtmos not if you have a Mac book pro , and discount it from your studio rig , in my case RME , switch IOs , cubase keep the list but looses the routing , only work around it delete the external Fx and synths , 1 by 1 and then try to use Favourites to restore your setting massive pain , I have a bug reported with Steinberg know and I have a case io , fingers X it’s happing soon .

@@AndyGrayedout First, sorry to learn this. So this is established as a Mac only issue? I’m on Windows. Also will say I don’t have anywhere near the most complex setup. I definitely never meant to imply Cubase is not without bugs. This is something I haven’t experienced. I hope Steinberg has recognized this and provides a fix. The irony is I sometimes get annoyed if I temporarily remove a device, etc and having Cubase constantly warn me when I open a project. I understand the importance of the warning it’s just I’m the only one messing with things and know what’s up. Once again I have minimal needs compared to some setups I see. I will try to follow this on the forum if it’s been brought up. Good luck. 👍

See my pinned comment at the top.

That also works for me on mine. And they can be labeled.

You completely missed the point. I think everyone knows about having templates with various routing, I use them all the time. Those don’t help you if you have issues nor do they help if you start a session in one studio and move to another with completely different I/O and interfaces. I do this “all” the time. When I searched for a solution to import/export IO settings I found hundreds of different threads/complaints. Remember everyone else may not have the same workload/needs as you. Regardless, the ability to export/import IO is a critical feature that every other DAW I have used has had for a very long time. As much as I hate to say it, Pro Tools has implemented this the best.

@@BarryJohns I am not talking about templates, its a Preset file that you create in drop down menus in the Audio Connections section, you can change at any time while working in a project ,when you switch interfaces for example. I think you can do want you want to do.

@@cshortlife9179 I searched one more time and from everything I've been able to find, it's basically doing the exact same thing I demonstrate at the end of the video. Do you have a link that shows what you are referring to?

Sorry, I am in Europe on a different time zone. I can't work out how to add an image to a you tube comment from my phone. When i get home from work this evening I will lay it out t with screen shots and send you a direct/private message. But ssentially it is the same as saving and loading presets inside a VST plugin, except it is done inside the Audio Connections sections.

Thanks 👍

I agree with you, I have installed Pro tools, Reason Studio, Studio one, Logic, Ableton, etc! But I have used Cubase and Nuendo for mixing for about 20 years and I have not found a DAW with which I work more comfortably and quickly!

As a template for starting a new session, but I’ve yet to find another way other than what I show in the video to be able to recover them.

Yes

Never had any problems with latency whatsoever, and it’s pretty unusual for a DAW to introduce latency. That’s typically tied to your recording interface. That said, use what you feel most comfortable with. I’ll be the first person to say the QA is a beast to learn, that said, after getting over the hump and learning it, I wouldn’t use any other DAW. And I own them all.

See my pinned comment at the top of the comments

Never, it’s been very smooth for me. What computer are you on? I’m on an M1 Pro MBP.

@@BarryJohns I have a beast PC with the highest end CPU. I use both Ableton and Pro Tools with heavy sessions and both run smoother than Cubase. Cubase just has this tiniest lag on everything that it does. I read that this is normal for Cubase. Who knows, maybe Cubase just doesnt work well with my computer.

That doesn’t solve the problem, what I showed at the end of the video has worked for me, just a pain that I have to do it.

Still working great for me. Make sure you are moving the old one and replacing with the new one.

Go back and read the very first comment I pinned to the top of the comments, you will see that will not solve the main issue. I do what you are suggesting all the time when I’m stationary at my home studio, the challenge comes when going to other studios.

@@BarryJohns Yeah I did see the comment. I suppose IMHO I would remove this video or make another without the rant. Also you can do what you want to do. I think others have mentioned how. The only thing I agree with is if the project isn’t setup and saved properly the problem of opening up a project and all the I/O is missing is frustrating.

I am a Nuendo/Cubase user from the times of Nuendo 1 I work at the same time normally between several steinberg equipped estudios in my area , some of them with really big inputs and outputs connected to a big analog console , and never in my life I had such a problem Well clearly I use presets for my inputs and outputs , my control room preferences , my own keyboard shortcuts , my own colours with names that I use from the Nuendo 1 ,etc,etc,etc.... The best part of Cubase Nuendo is that you can travel with all your preferences When you go to a new place do a preset for that place and when you come back to work at that place use that preset , you can buck up that preset in case some one else do something wrong and clear your presets In that way when you travel from one studio to another you travel with your own Nuendo configuration So easy as that Another recommendation , use the control Room in Nuendo is one of the best functions ever in a DAW And for sure Cubase is the best DAW Now to do live recordings with all the band playing together in a big studio if you use a Windows computer , an interface with direct monitoring ( RME, Steinberg, etc ..) The most stable , latency free and unobtrusive DAW ever for this kind of work and the only one I used in my live ( and I used a lot ) that it is posible to do a last time multitrack recording ( drums, orchestra,etc....) with hundreds of plugins inserted ,in more that one hundred tracks with no latency 🤷‍♂️ You are trying to do something in a new tool but in the same way (in my experience pro tools way to handle inputs and outputs is horrible ) you did it in your old but familiar tool

@@JoseLastrak 👍

Do you mean Opcode’s Vision sequencer? My first professional DAW. Loved that program until Gibson bought Opcode. Then, Gibson does their usual thing and squashed Vision. This was when I started to dislike Gibson - over the years my dislike has matured into something much deeper.

​@@j.stribling2565 Yes Opcode Studio Vision, and Yes Gibson screw it up Opcode and it's so sad :(

I’m aware of templates but to my knowledge that’s only useful when starting a new project which is what I’ve been doing so far. Blog you loose them like I did on a session already in the works, this is the only way I’ve found that works.

The way you did it would probably be the way Steinberg would recommend doing it. You have to do something similar when upgrading to a new version of Cubase as well. What you could do is create the template from scratch with all the I/Os. Open a new project and import the tracks. Might be simpler than redoing the I/Os 🤷‍♂️ Great Channel Barry!

@@BarryJohns you can save I/O presets in the I\O menu. you dont need to load from a template. save it one time and done. then it is just 1 click to load. also....just so you know. you output in not set up correctly. it is counter-intuitive. but crate a master output in outputs.......but do not route it. then crate another in the control room. there is where you set your actual hardware output. if you dont do it this was the is no audio feedback end tuning notes or offline export.

See my pinned comment above.

@@BarryJohns I'm working in my studio on RME/SSL Gear (Desktop) and on Steinberg Gear (Laptop) at home. When I'm back to studio everything (I/O settings) is as It was before. Yes - there should be the option for quickly recall different configurations. But for me it automatically sets the right configuration.

Take a look at my pinned comment at the very top of the comments. That alone is not solve my problem.

​@@BarryJohns I understand your pinned comment, but as I said above, if another studio has different outboard gear, your i/o connections will be irrelevant, so the i/o topology you used in your studio will be totally useless to the person you are sharing your project with. That still doesn't answer why you didn't use presets or simply restart Cubase in your video, which presumably was filmed in your studio.

@@greenoakcrystal I do this all the time, what I had been doing when going to other studios was printing stems and importing using their template/presets. You reaffirmed the main point of the video. If Cubase had the ability, like the majority of others, to be able to export and import IO, this would never be an issue, just like it was never an issue when I was using ProTools HDX.

I will never go back, but to your point, for the few that do what you referenced, PT is the best solution.

Yea, I don’t know what I was thinking. The mic is not meant to be that close to my mouth. It’s usually about 10” away pointing down overhead, I put it too close. I did make the video at 5am if that’s any excuse😜

Try Studio One

No more dark side for me after 25 years!

@@BarryJohns i actually just switched to pro tools from FL studio. Theres difference in sound quality! Theres more depth and the stereo image is wider. Now i consider FL studio a child’s play compares to the DEMON.

I use my Loupdeck along with my UF8’s. I love that thing! I mainly use it for FCP, but also my DAW work.