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CubePro 3D Printer Review 

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My initial review of the CubePro Duo 3D Printer. Review of both ABS and PLA printing as well as the Cubify Design software and CubePro printing software. If you have any questions on the printer, or the things I printed, please leave a comment!
UPDATE: Cubify support got back to me, and there is a great trick that lets the shells carry over from Cubify Design. If you design the part in multiple shells, you will be able to open the part that way in CubePro software. Just make sure you have the "Single Color" check mark unchecked BEFORE you open the model. This will allow you to click the different shells of the single file and assign each shell to its desired printjet.

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@danielmaslonka2783
@danielmaslonka2783 7 лет назад
CubePro Trio review. I have decided to share my experience with CubePro 3d printer. I have this printer for 18 months and I have tried all variants of filament materials, that the manufacturer offers. I have printed many models but unfortunately more models where destroyed or misbuild then successfully build. The printer cannot give you what the manufacturer and salesmen’s promises to you. Design - first touch is very impressive and nice. The printer design looks nice and smooth. Is completely enclosed and no moving parts are mounted outside so the cube is the only space it needs. Build chamber id lighten up und the front and rear panel is transparent so you can see your model emerging. The printer is very user friendly, the full color touch displays is intuitive and setup wizards guides the user thru maintenance and trouble shooting. The filament cartridges handling and replacement is very easy. Also the print preparation is easy. The printer comes with all tools necessary to maintain it.But this is all what the printer offers on positive side. User software - software is very user friendly and easy to use, but it is very buggy. It crashes for no reason. When you try to customize the build options the software is not able to create support for models on edges and ignores the sidewalk options and perforation. The same happens when you enable the fine detail options. And also if you move your models on build platform the software is not able to create the build program and crashes. When you leave all in default settings it works fine, but the default option is suitable only for small and easy models. On bigger and more detailed models you need to adjust this setting or you will see how the printer vastest tons of material or the model is misbuilded.The software updates come out very often, but the major bugs are not fixed, mostly new features are added. I don’t know what the software engineers or testers do that they don’t find this bugs. I have the feeling that they just ignore this bug reports. Firmware - the firmware for model building is very buggy. The print algorithm causes sometimes collisions especially when you have more than one model of different shape or color. Ones the collision was so bad that it damaged one of the print heads. When the printer pauses the print for layer cooling and hardening a small amount of filament comes out of nozzle and instead to clean the head (the printer is equipped with very nice cleaning mechanism with waste bin) the printer continues to print and damages the model, so you have to post process the model with sandpaper or knife or you throw the model away and build it again and you hope that this time it will be not that bad.Firmware updates are also very common, but again instead of fixing the bugs, the only concern of the manufacturer is to ensure that the user uses only the genuine filament cartridges by improving the security algorithm for filament cartridge chip validation. (you will find lots of articles to this when you google a little bit) Mechanics - the mechanics is designed on strong chassis with very solution for y-axis (it uses two step motors) the mechanics is well prepared to handle motions dynamics. The cabling and filament guide pipes are installed very professional.The problem is the sliding bearing which are pure quality and they causing movement jams and noises. This leads to model misbuilding by shifting of layers. The electronics causes also trouble. My printer was in service center twice for both problems, but they replaced only the mainboard (twice) the sliding guides are still the original ones installed in factory and causing still the same problems.The filament feeder mechanism is good but too precise for the poor quality of the filament string. This causes the user to disassembly the mechanism and clear it every time when a jam occurs (what is in most abs filament very often). This procedure is time and patience consuming. Filament cartridges - oh yeah, the biggest problem for this printer. At first I liked the idea that the cartridges are equipped witch ID chip which provides all the necessary info for the printer what type and color of material is inserted, but this is not the main role of this chip (you can do this with barcode is cheaper than the chip), the main role is to ensure that you use the genuine cartridges provided by 3ds! This should be not the issue if the price is fair for the quality and material amount. Chips are faulty, there is only 680g of material and the string miserable quality for 99 Euro. I have tried all types of materials and many colors.ABS - the worst material. Avoid it at any cost. Especially the red one. Strings has too many defects and causing filament jump! The printer build platform cannot handle the ABS shrink properties and it gets bended or the first layer is fused into platform. The print algorithm for this material can compensate for abs material properties and the printed models look terrible. Big models are NO GO for abs!PLA - this is the right material for this printer. The models are good, no shape shifting, good surface quality. The problem is only, when the filament is in printer for more than 3 weeks, the string starts to crack in guide pipes, what leads to filament jump in print head. To get the filament then out of guide pipe is not an easy task. When the string cracks near the entrance of the cartridge, it is pulled inside and you have no option but to open the cartridge and get the string back to where it belongs and of course you lose the warranty to this cartridge.NYLON - very strong and good material, but the printer cannot handle it. When the print is paused for layer hardening, the filament is overheated and you see burn mark in model and of course the filament comes out during this pause and the printer do not clear the head and destroys the model! Interesting is also the fact that you cannot configure the printer software to use different materials when nylon option is used for other print heads. So when you want to use different material then nylon you have every time to reconfigure your print software. Multicolor printing - forget this feature! It is brutally time consuming for printing, because the printer cools down the head which is currently not used reheats it again when it needs it. (which is of course on each layer). This leads to material overheat and waste during this process, because the printer releases a string to waste bin to get the over burned material out of nozzle. The different material color causes by fusing (because there intersects on multicolor model) deformations and the model looks not that pretty. It is better to print monochrome models or the different color parts sparely and the assemble them than together. Which requires good skills be model design to reflect the different color material properties, so that the parts fit together ;) Service and support - the onsite technician which has done the service for my printer has done his best. His hand was in many cases tighten by manufacturers service contract. All troubles have to be verified by manufacturers tech support and they didn’t listen to problem descriptions provided by customer. They wanted photos and videos, so I did my best to satisfy their need to make proper analyses of my printer’s issues. But in the end they ignored everything and send me stupid instructions that never solved the issue. My printer has mechanical problem proved by video and they told me to update firmware. Of course it didn’t solve the problem, only expensive filament was wasted on next model. In the end the motherboard quitted and the printer was taken to service center for repair. I waited 3-4 weeks for its return and they of course changed the mainboard for a one with defective usb port, so the center has to wait for new mainboard again. After return the mechanical problem is still present. They give me of course advise to lubricate the faulty bearings regularly. Cool idea to lubricate those bearings when the bearing manufacturer forbids this, because dust is collected in this lubricant its pulled then inside those bearings and they get slowly damaged. So now I’m waiting for total failure of those bearing. Software issues are ignored by default at support. Filament and spear parts supply is short and it takes weeks to get it. Final assessment - the idea of user friendly 3d printer is very good and this printer has mastered most of this idea good. But the philosophy to get huge money from customer for cartridges is a gall. The printer is not able to print what the manufacturer promises. The support is ignorant and incompetent. The printer is not worth its price. You will be very fast disappointed. I regret this purchase. There are better printers on the market that this one. They are cheaper, maybe uglier and more skills are necessary to operate them, but you will get the output you want from it. This printer is pure waste of money. Maybe another manufacturer will inspire their product by the philosophy of user friendliness, case design and software interface.
@cwj3589
@cwj3589 9 лет назад
I purchased the cube pro trio and it is an amazing printer right out of the box. I've only had a few issues such as the build plate coming apart which 3dsystems knows about and replaced fairly quick, I added superglue as a temporary fix. Also you can print an abs with pla support with a chamber heat warning but you cannot print an only abs part with a pla cartridge installed. Best work around is if you wish to print a model that is only using the abs cartridge then all you need to do is disconnect the wire harness leading to the cartridge instead of completely removing the filament and cartridge. I install my pla on port 2 because it lays down to allow easier access to the filament tube during cartridge changes also exposing the wire harness to disconnect. I may do a video showing the problem and the fix, just kinda busy with customers and projects atm.
@dvschilpp
@dvschilpp 9 лет назад
Chris Judd false
@ytdelite1126
@ytdelite1126 8 лет назад
Hello All, I am NEW to 3D printing PERIOD. I am aware of the technology but have never been introduced t it until now. I have access to a CubePro Trio. As far as pulling it out of the box and setting it up, I am in the dark. I have been looking for a video showing all of the basics of the set up. I cut loose the head, and am holding off installing the wiper tray to make sure I understand what the book is telling me. I know nothing about calibration or the software needed to create models in. Any help would be appreciated greatly. Thank you All.
@alphasxsignal
@alphasxsignal 9 лет назад
At that price that bed should be heated.Robo 3dR1 is heated for lots less and the TAZ5 is heated and both can use just about any filament on the market.
@eryksokolowski8706
@eryksokolowski8706 9 лет назад
This printer is not good, I do not recommend, the software is really bad - crashes all the time, when cartage runs out its still 30% full of filament but the printer doesn't accept it anymore. When you try to print in multi-material the ABS warps, the printer can't handle making support for complex parts. Essentially useless
@nimatalebi2659
@nimatalebi2659 9 лет назад
it seems like you have calibration issues. have you done the Z-Gap and the plate calibration man? Sorry if you have mentioned it in your video and I missed it.
@cwj3589
@cwj3589 9 лет назад
@00mandingo00 The print times can be reduced significantly depending on your settings at build if you run the high resolution solid honeycomb infill it will take 4x the base print , if he set the Keychain to standard almost solid line infill, lowered base and top layers by one and outer walls by one he could print it in 9 min ;)
@rohanahluwalia8339
@rohanahluwalia8339 7 лет назад
Hey, What CAD Software did you use?
@FrankCappello_official
@FrankCappello_official 8 лет назад
Cubify looks just like Alibre - now Geomagic Design. Cool.
@drentex9737
@drentex9737 7 лет назад
Can I have a link for the better printing material and the printer itself. I'd love to buy one
@NMHC1978
@NMHC1978 7 лет назад
How do you print with ABS i heard that the cube pro has no heated bed ?
@pdxcvadam781
@pdxcvadam781 7 лет назад
No heated bed no ABS
@va7416
@va7416 6 лет назад
Adam McGee cube 3 has abs and pla
@nightmareinaction629
@nightmareinaction629 5 лет назад
I remeber the sounds from this printer at my school and I just got a chanse to buy one of these new from a warehouse with 5 cartridges for 250 but it's a 40 mile drive how do you think this printer stands in 2019
@WhiteWolfos
@WhiteWolfos 5 лет назад
Actually pretty good as long as you know how to mod and do all sorts of maintenance.
@brandonnixon7105
@brandonnixon7105 9 лет назад
For the price i would buy a ultimaker 2
@CR3DT
@CR3DT 10 лет назад
nice review. How are you liking the cube overall? I have two on order for my office. I am hoping to print supports with HIPS or PVA. Have you tried anything like that?
@garywoods4189
@garywoods4189 9 лет назад
Thanks for the review.
@cwj3589
@cwj3589 9 лет назад
As far as creating multiple color prints...it's a problem. Lol, the way to do it currently is just as you describe with a twist. In this case you'd create the Keychain export and then create the letters and export. Using a 3rd party software called meshmixer you can open both of the exported models and put them together. I haven't tried opening them both in cube software yet, but I know you can open multiple models and build them on one build I just don't know if you were to stack them in the software and build them would the printer do this during print
@Edward47128
@Edward47128 8 лет назад
does the 3D model have to be a certain scale before exporting to cube pro systems?
@scm6079
@scm6079 8 лет назад
Alex Jadoo - No, you can rescale the model in the cubepro tools. I generally find it is easier to do so beforehand, however, it's not a big deal to scale in the cube print tool.
@Edward47128
@Edward47128 8 лет назад
thank u. also what about poly count, wall thickness or any other specifications for the mesh? Is there any way to verify the model meets the specifications before printing? I used Autodesk Netfabb to check it and it looks ok
@christiansevera7731
@christiansevera7731 8 лет назад
how do you remove the heated wax or glue on the plate? what is the best or fast way to remove the heated wax? or I can print without wax or glue? is that safe? It's hard to remove the heated wax. maybe you can help me about my problem. thank you in advance :)
@scm6079
@scm6079 8 лет назад
The easiest way is to soak it in very warm water, after several minutes the glue will dissolve and the part comes right off. I've tried without the glue, but I get better results with it. Just use a nice thin layer by doing tight swirls and it will release in water perfectly. I usually just leave it under a running hot faucet or soak in a sink.
@christiansevera7731
@christiansevera7731 8 лет назад
thank you for you answer :) I will try your suggestion :)
@christiansevera7731
@christiansevera7731 8 лет назад
+scm6079 I have one question. If you don't mind. Do you know what is the exact scale for finger? the X and the Y.
@christiansevera7731
@christiansevera7731 8 лет назад
+Christian Severa hello. do you have any idea? what is the best cartridge? for prosthetic.
@pdxcvadam781
@pdxcvadam781 7 лет назад
get a different 3D printer. I recommend the Polar 3D printer
@porkchopmessiah1
@porkchopmessiah1 10 лет назад
was thinking of purchasing this printer, any further thoughts? I would be only printing in abs
@scm6079
@scm6079 10 лет назад
I'm pretty happy with it - but if your primary plan is printing ABS (like me) you'll need to understand some real world limitations. If you expect to get out a "production ready" part in ABS with no work you'll be disappointed. I've found that for larger parts, warping can be significant. The heated build chamber is great - and all my parts have been very strong - but I've had SIGNIFICANT warping on large parts still. Planning the model to avoid long straight runs helps, but sometimes that's unavoidable. In those cases, I've generally built 'discardable' areas on the bottom knowing I'll loose them to warping, and then after printing flipped the part around and machined the bottom off to make it flat. That obviously takes time, and requires you to have a mill, ideally with an auto-feed at least or you'll be there forever. The good news is I've had 0 problems with layer separation on ABS. That being said, it's really disheartening to have been printing for an hour and then hear the loud 'pop' as the part warps and pulls off the glued-bed and warps up 6-8mm off the bed. Printing using large rafts seems to help. I need a little more experimentation time with large prints to figure out the true limits. Last week I printed a set of high-strength mounts where the whole assembly came out to be about 2'x1' - printed in sections. I planned around the limitations, and my part is in service already. In the end, just make sure to set your expectations realistically. Given the price of competition like the Stratasys I'd buy the CubePro again -- although my original expectations were probably a bit higher than the reality of the prints. Now I'm just hoping they release the Nylon material and an updated version of the CubePro software soon!
@mackensiealvarez5663
@mackensiealvarez5663 10 лет назад
Have you found out how to fix this problem ?
@scm6079
@scm6079 10 лет назад
Fix, no - work around, sort-of. I've found that re-opening the print file with the CubePro software will let you view what the printer will be printing - which looked exactly like the flawed part that printed. That tells me the error was in the CubePro build, not the printer hardware. I've talked to CubePro support, who said they will be updating the software soon. Hopefully that resolves the issue. In the mean time, I've been adjusting the original model - usually increasing wall thickness - and then re-building until the print file comes out clean. Sometimes that process can take an hour or more of fiddling - so it's not great by any means, but it's better than waiting for numerous hours for a print and then having to discard the part.
@slasher2010
@slasher2010 8 лет назад
How long does one cartridge last?
@scm6079
@scm6079 8 лет назад
One cartridge will print about 30-40 mid-sized prints.
@tasherajean
@tasherajean 10 лет назад
Thanks for doing this review! In your opinion, how would the Cube Pro work for designing tiny intricate jewelry (such as rings with great detail). Do you know of any other printers that would work better for such an endeavor?
@scm6079
@scm6079 10 лет назад
Unfortunately, I don't think this printer would work well at all in that particular use case. Although I'm really happy with the performance for mid-sized and large size parts, the small size details are just too rough for intricate work. For building really small things, I've had more luck with subtractive processes (e.g. milling). Take a look at the Max-NC 15 mini CNC. My bit set for that machine is incredibly tiny, and can do some amazing detail work.
@tasherajean
@tasherajean 10 лет назад
Thank you so much for the info! I am off to google it now :)
@patrickdunne8688
@patrickdunne8688 10 лет назад
try the projet1200 for jewelry www.google.com/search?q=projet+1200&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&imgil=92Rvoklj_mcuwM%253A%253BtdrJKZ1uUE2w0M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fprojet3d.co.uk%25252Fprojet-1200%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=92Rvoklj_mcuwM%253A%252CtdrJKZ1uUE2w0M%252C_&usg=__6DF-v_r7-J09V0hy-7i4IqLDvf0%3D&biw=1920&bih=985&ved=0CD8Qyjc&ei=ZKItVKXZOYbeoASbqoGAAQ#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=92Rvoklj_mcuwM%253A%3BtdrJKZ1uUE2w0M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fprojet3d.co.uk%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252FJewellery.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fprojet3d.co.uk%252Fprojet-1200%252F%3B735%3B465
@tasherajean
@tasherajean 10 лет назад
Patrick, do you have any personal experience with the 1200?
@AntoineLeGrand610
@AntoineLeGrand610 10 лет назад
tasherajean You should also take a look at FormLabs Form1+ printer. formlabs.com/ A friend bough one (not the form1+ but the form1) when it was on kickstarter, although it took ages before he got it (early production issues) he absolutely loves it! it's incredibly precise and you can print larger items than with a Projet1200.
@terryparker1130
@terryparker1130 2 года назад
Any one have the software
@crazyman762
@crazyman762 10 лет назад
Thanks for posting this. Your timing is perfect. I am very interested in getting the 3 color unit. The prints looked really crisp. I use Solidworks top design my items. I guess it is all about getting used to the software. I am likely to get NetFabb as well to improve the meshing.
@scm6079
@scm6079 10 лет назад
Solidworks is a great program, but on the expensive side to say the least! I haven't used Netfabb, but unfortunately the CubePro requires that you use their proprietary mesh generator to create the .cubepro print files. A lot of other 3D printers support direct G-Code interaction, but the CubePro does not. No matter how perfect the NetFabb meshes are, you'll be at the mercy of the final CubePro generation. As I've experimented more, I've found that the CubePro software seems to be one of the weaker links. Cube support promised a new version with improved mesh performance, so I'm hoping that is available soon.
@crazyman762
@crazyman762 8 лет назад
+scm6079 I bought the CubePro Trio in November 2014, had it for less than a day, clogged a print head, sent it back to 3D Systems for repair, who had it for 5 weeks, and SOLD it within a month of getting it back, never using it again. What a complete piece of expensive junk! They have no local support. It is fix it yourself, even after owning it for less that a day or ask for the FAVOR of being able to send it back. I now have a Form1 that I used extensively for the past year. But I want a Form2, or maybe a Form3 by that time I get around to buying something else new. AVOID THE CUBEPRO!!!!!!
@mustafankamil1973
@mustafankamil1973 8 лет назад
hey, lower the temp when using pla :)
@e_g4239
@e_g4239 5 лет назад
you can't lower temp manually
@blowmeracing
@blowmeracing 7 лет назад
And to think I was just about to buy a 3D printer..but after seeing this video and the outcome ..I'll pass, I'll just stick to my cnc plasma, vinyl plotter and epilog laser engraver and leave the 3D printing for someone else..
@blacktech5154
@blacktech5154 6 лет назад
Expensive and bad. Feel free to contact me incase you have the smallest intention of buying this printer and I will help you change your mind.
@cindyporcu7922
@cindyporcu7922 4 года назад
I found this on the curb and all of the actuators work should I sell it on eBay for 850 dollars
@scottmckenzi3
@scottmckenzi3 8 лет назад
wow those prints look nasty and these cost how much! sorry but my ultimaker 2 produces parts so much better than these at a fraction of the cost.
@ritulsoni1217
@ritulsoni1217 9 лет назад
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