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Cummins 2.8T Turbo-Diesel RePower Kit for Jeep Wranglers and Other 4x4s 

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The Cummins RePower 2.8T Turbodiesel swap kit is engineered for restomods. It's ideal for older Jeep Wranglers, as well as other smaller 4x4s, with plenty of torque and the promise of vastly improved fuel efficiency.
Here's the product info page: cumminsengines.com/repower.as...
I checked in with Cummins at the Overland Expo West, in Flagstaff, Arizona. Many thanks to Brittany Borella and Steve Sanders at Cummins, as well as Luke at New Legends 4x4.
I've been chasing this story since last November, when I wrote about Cummins' SEMA announcement for the eBayMotor Blog. My goal is to document the efficiency improvements in one or more swaps.
Knock wood, we'll make it happen.

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@jerrysalinas4740
@jerrysalinas4740 7 лет назад
at 2:02 the old man in the back doesn't approve. LOL
@MrPhoenixSpeed3
@MrPhoenixSpeed3 7 лет назад
He walks up with a huge grin and than groans, "ohh no."
@a2r7n6
@a2r7n6 7 лет назад
LOL... what timing! They just should have reshot it.
@swank1975
@swank1975 6 лет назад
HAHA Oh no
@Mike-xn1bh
@Mike-xn1bh 6 лет назад
HAHAHA!!! He was probably expecting to see a V8.
@2leftfeetjoe295
@2leftfeetjoe295 6 лет назад
hilarious!
@naziklerffeter3058
@naziklerffeter3058 5 лет назад
Who ever came up with the Repower Program, CHEERS
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 месяца назад
Too bad govt bureaucracy won't approve the 2.8T for anything newer than 1999 :'(
@bobbyparks3714
@bobbyparks3714 6 лет назад
I can't wait I will be doing this to my 2000 Dodge Dakota quad cab 4x4 5.9L
@Ragepirate123
@Ragepirate123 5 лет назад
Have you done this yet?
@jordanl5628
@jordanl5628 4 года назад
@@Ragepirate123 no, no he hasn't.
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 месяца назад
Cool cept govt won't approve the 2.8T for anytthing newer than 1999 :'(
@geneclemetson4779
@geneclemetson4779 2 года назад
What kind of performance did the wrangler get on hills and passing on hills using the 2.8?
@neurocytohemotoxic
@neurocytohemotoxic 6 лет назад
I love 4bt's , but at 750 lbs dry they're too heavy for a lot of smaller vehicles. The Cummins 2.8 sounds like a much better option for little jeeps, mini trucks, etc.
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 месяца назад
As if weight wasn't enough of an issue, the 4bt will also rattle your brains out... no thanks.
@figdaddy18
@figdaddy18 6 лет назад
What trans and is there a 3.5L on the drawing board?
@lostbetrayed
@lostbetrayed 4 года назад
Wish Cummins would do a plug and play crate motor for the 5.0 V8 Cummins but I do like the 2.8 I also liked the 3.9
@phillipalder9045
@phillipalder9045 3 года назад
Is the 2.8TD that much more efficient than a 4BT? I'm thinking in larger vehicles, the 4BT would have better economy.
@SlevinKelevra777
@SlevinKelevra777 6 лет назад
I would do a first gen 4Runner. I think that would be an amazing combination.
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 6 лет назад
Steven Floyd Definitely a cool one!
@SlevinKelevra777
@SlevinKelevra777 6 лет назад
Tavllc has an 1985 truck with the r2.8. Can't wait for more info on it.
@MichaelRCarlson
@MichaelRCarlson 6 лет назад
My plan is to drop one in my 2nd gen when the 3.0 gives up the ghost. Hopefully someone makes adapters by then.
@Sig721Tau
@Sig721Tau 4 года назад
@@MichaelRCarlson Gives up the ghost?
@codydayton3573
@codydayton3573 6 лет назад
That would be great for my dodge 1500 5 speed .
@DemetriusDasilva
@DemetriusDasilva 4 года назад
(1:08) - Now in this Bronco, OJ would've ridden in style.
@erosuli1
@erosuli1 4 года назад
I saw lot people install on Toyota fj40 nice
@WillPereira
@WillPereira 3 года назад
Can anyone recommend a Transmission adapter for the NAG1 Transmission from a 2012 to 2018 Jeep? I am looking for some kits that will work for either the 4BT or this R 2.8 Engine. Any help would be great!
@spencerbrady2425
@spencerbrady2425 3 года назад
Assuming I can legally run this in my 99 TJ, can I keep my stock gauges?
@Ken19700
@Ken19700 5 лет назад
Will it fit into a CJ2A?
@ustagivadambutnevagavafuk2675
@ustagivadambutnevagavafuk2675 7 лет назад
I think I would still rather have the 4bt, its almost completely mechanical, fairly cheap, it can also share parts with a 6bt and there is more options out there for upgrades
@jacobmoses3712
@jacobmoses3712 4 года назад
It's also 300 pounds heavier and in some applications that would be a deal breaker
@zubaidaanwerali7737
@zubaidaanwerali7737 5 лет назад
is it possible to be mounted on a willys m38
@beunbad
@beunbad Год назад
I wish this would be set for Later model TJ and JK
@xersys
@xersys 7 лет назад
A cursory google search says that in CA, a diesel vehicle older than 95 doesn't go through emissions testing though.
@kumasan727
@kumasan727 7 лет назад
You are correct, the only think you would have to do to make it California legal is take it to the referee so he can verify that is no longer gas and has a diesel motor in it.
@Sig721Tau
@Sig721Tau 4 года назад
On The Fast Lane Truck RU-vid channel, they show a 2014 Nissan Frontier with this exact engine with a ZF-8 transmission. They stated that it makes 200 hp and around 350 lb-ft of torque. So, why is this crate engine so underpowered?
@gildardofelix9568
@gildardofelix9568 5 лет назад
Can I use this kind projects in california
@magnacartasamadams8189
@magnacartasamadams8189 5 лет назад
Wow the 2.8 Duramax has a lot more power But I heard stock Max you could get like 3 to 400hp and 600fpt'
@kingtaco5000
@kingtaco5000 6 лет назад
Could I put it in a 2006 Jeep Wrangler Lj
@jamesd369
@jamesd369 4 года назад
Does it have a EGR?? If so deal killer.
@WillPat-zd7qq
@WillPat-zd7qq 5 лет назад
I want to try and put one in my 01 ranger.
@garyhoney1984
@garyhoney1984 4 года назад
WillPat 3190 I thought about that I have a 2.8 Liberty and I thought about dropping one in my Ranger but I don't think it'll fit
@suavehouse5150
@suavehouse5150 5 лет назад
I need one for my 97 k1500 Z71
@Michael-qg7os
@Michael-qg7os 3 года назад
Whould it Fit in my 1990 230GE / Wolf Gwagen / Steyr-Puch ??? 🇺🇸💀☠️💀👽🌌☕️
@darinyates7909
@darinyates7909 Год назад
So, no go on a 97 wrangler in California?
@Atizzle121310
@Atizzle121310 6 лет назад
It’s a cummins so you can get way more horsepower and torque by adding some mods to it like you would a 5.9 or 6.7
@jessebeckton3717
@jessebeckton3717 7 лет назад
Since I can't seem to find any info on pricing i'll just go ahead and get a stroker. Cummins is keeping a tight lip on the cost.
@nickc874
@nickc874 6 лет назад
Jesse Beckton sure u will...
@swank1975
@swank1975 6 лет назад
cumminsengines.com/repower.aspx
@ejayerik
@ejayerik 6 лет назад
9k per their website.
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 6 лет назад
They start at $Shit Ton and go up from there.
@biscuitninja
@biscuitninja 7 лет назад
4bt is a heaaaavy engine.
@RD-hn6ut
@RD-hn6ut 6 лет назад
A jku is a heavey pig anyways so the 4tb or others isn't gonna matter much
@OvenBak3d360
@OvenBak3d360 6 лет назад
R D it’s not a 4bt it’s a 2.8L the 4bt is 3.9Lit’s like 300lbs less than a 4bt
@The_Hi_Life
@The_Hi_Life 6 лет назад
I want this in my Xterra pro4x when my vq40 finally gives up the ghost! MPG would be WAY better I'm guessing!
@Sig721Tau
@Sig721Tau 4 года назад
Gives up the ghost?
@BigCrispy55
@BigCrispy55 6 лет назад
want so hard for my FJ Cruiser!
@parthur5672
@parthur5672 4 года назад
That would be a good swap for a ranger
@lucasbatista6262
@lucasbatista6262 3 года назад
This funny, I live in Brazil, here all rangers basically use a diesels engines.
@johnholtz1205
@johnholtz1205 4 года назад
Lmfao!!!!! 2:02 old dude is like fu$& this truck. Holy hell that was the funniest s$&) ever.
@CascadeGriz
@CascadeGriz 7 лет назад
I want to drop one in a FJ62, any idea when they are going to become more readily available?
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 7 лет назад
Chuck Holton FJ would be a cool swap! I'm hoping to get more info after the 4th. Stay tuned …
@CascadeGriz
@CascadeGriz 7 лет назад
My 2000 TJ hopes there will be one in it's future too. I have been looking for diesel options for the 62 for sometime. This is a great idea
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 7 лет назад
I can think of several vehicles that would benefit from a Cummins 2.8 litre turbo diesel engine.
@swank1975
@swank1975 6 лет назад
My 1992 Range Rover Classic for 1. Just have to figure out the adapter to my transmission. :)
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 6 лет назад
That's one example. How about an Jeep XJ Cherokee?
@lostbetrayed
@lostbetrayed 4 года назад
I'd swap one into a 2017 Dart GT those are kinda hard to find since not many gt's were made and I think 2017 was the last year of the dart. One reason why I'd do it cause when it was in production I thought since Chevy has diesels in their compact cars and now in one of their small SUVs (equinox and GMC terrain) maybe the dart should have a diesel and the 2.8 is the only one i think would have been perfect Dodge probably would have left off the Cummins badges and stuff and didn't call the motor a Cummins either
@freddynogueira1803
@freddynogueira1803 3 года назад
Tacomas would love a cummins
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 3 года назад
@@lostbetrayed If only they were still available. I can imagine a 2.8 litre Cummins or even a Duramax in my Mazda CX5.
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 месяца назад
Such a great idea, too bad govt bureaucracy won't approve the 2.8T for anything newer than 1999 :'(
@CrazySquirrel98
@CrazySquirrel98 5 лет назад
2005 jeep grand Cherokee
@josephnamud6103
@josephnamud6103 5 лет назад
Mam brittany I need your help, what should I do with my cummins isf 2.8 loosing power when I stepped on the throttle it seems the engine is strangled and short of fuel as if the engine would die then check engine indicator appears on the dash. What is the problem? What should I do? Mam britanny I need your help
@garyhoney1984
@garyhoney1984 4 года назад
Joseph Namud check for cracked turbocharger
@KurNorock
@KurNorock 5 лет назад
It just doesn't have the hp or torque numbers that it should for its size and price. For the size I was expecting 225hp and 350ft/lbs of torque. For the price however I'd expect each of those numbers to be increased by at least 50.
@garyhoney1984
@garyhoney1984 4 года назад
Yeah but don't let that fool you. The smaller frame vehicle like a Jeep Rock your socks. I have one in mine and I am a muscle car enthusiast
@MerrittOutdoor
@MerrittOutdoor 6 лет назад
But what transmission ????
@AmpereNA
@AmpereNA 6 лет назад
4L60e or 4L80e. If its a jeep with the nv4500 5 speed, keep it.
@bluegrasskid
@bluegrasskid 4 года назад
I have a 1972 Model 88 Jeep Dispatcher that came stock with a Cummins 4B(no turbo) and a TH350 😂
@josemora2149
@josemora2149 4 года назад
Me poedrian explicar es español yo quero modificr mi jeep con un 4 o 6bt nesecito me asesoren
@user-nw6hn8kb2z
@user-nw6hn8kb2z 6 лет назад
Hello from Russia. We have such engines put on GAZele cars but there is a big problem (they are installing a bad gearbox of their own production. What gearbox is installed for you?
@williamgarcia4982
@williamgarcia4982 6 лет назад
When are they going to be availibe to the public and how much?
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 6 лет назад
The kits are available now. Not sure of the exact price. They has some cool trucks with the 2.8T at the SEMA show this week, but I didn't shoot video at the show.
@LibertyFirst1789
@LibertyFirst1789 7 лет назад
Does it still have the plastic oil pan?
@pra3t0rian
@pra3t0rian 7 лет назад
D-G-A-F yes, as far as I've heard.
@ejayerik
@ejayerik 6 лет назад
Dirt Every Day never said that the Cummings they put in their Jeep was a 4BT. It's a shame that it is. I was hoping that the ominous way that test run ended up (without too many engine details) would indicate that is was a different engine.
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 6 лет назад
Depending on what kind of plastic I'd prefer it. The one under my 2.7 Ecoboost was indestructible. But any oil pan is only as good offroad as the skidplate that protects it. I wouldn't think twice about the oil pan itself. If you're going to the trouble to do a build like that you'll have a massive skidplate.
@kenadams3951
@kenadams3951 5 лет назад
O no said pop
@mdfroman2235
@mdfroman2235 2 года назад
1/2 of people who swap 4BTs don't want a computer anywhere near their Jeep.
@ejayerik
@ejayerik 6 лет назад
Did I hear this right? 94 or older in California due to emissions?
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 года назад
Last I heard... unfortunately yes. The '99 limit for the rest of the country isn't that much better. My 1st (and only) Wrangler was a 2000 and had to get rid of it in the early 2000's when gas shot up to $4+/gal
@1g4u
@1g4u 3 года назад
California legal yet?
@juansmithe9988
@juansmithe9988 5 лет назад
How much do these cost today? I really want to drop this in an old jeep.
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 5 лет назад
These kits sound great, but they've got to cost as much or more than the purchase price of an old Jeep.
@jonnie2bad
@jonnie2bad 4 года назад
crate motor from cummins is 8K
@izatt82
@izatt82 7 лет назад
how much does it weigh though? doesn't seem like much power.
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 7 лет назад
It's 503 pounds. I just added a link to the product page in the description. By comparison, the 1998 4.0L inline six was rated at 181 HP / 222 pound-feet of torque.
@swank1975
@swank1975 6 лет назад
503lbs cumminsengines.com/repower.aspx
@rubioo93
@rubioo93 4 года назад
Jeez I want this in my dakota. Now how to get an extra 7700 bucks for this setup 😭
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 года назад
Well, if nothing else, it's promising to see the price dropped some from around $10k to just shy of $8k.
@monkeymachine62
@monkeymachine62 7 лет назад
i want this in australia
@AndreS_-df2nw
@AndreS_-df2nw 7 лет назад
they're in photon trucks there.
@jongskie777
@jongskie777 6 лет назад
you mean FOTON or they are calling it Photon over there ?
@AndreS_-df2nw
@AndreS_-df2nw 6 лет назад
Yes, it is foton
@johnot1168
@johnot1168 5 лет назад
Theres a company here that import Cummins engines
@k9forkids
@k9forkids 6 лет назад
how much is this crate engine?
@swank1975
@swank1975 6 лет назад
$9000 with ecu and harness cumminsengines.com/repower.aspx
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player 6 лет назад
yeah with wiring harness. all necessary components from fuel pump to water pump. an is roughly 26" x 26" x 26"
@Beeperx
@Beeperx 4 года назад
Which gearbox is connected to this Cummins 2.8 (ISF?) engine?
@adamlivelife2608
@adamlivelife2608 2 года назад
My 2004 Jeep TJ is no different then a 1999 I don’t see why the year 1999 and not newer
@eddieed_2328
@eddieed_2328 6 лет назад
I wonder what the MPG is like?
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 6 лет назад
eddie ed I’d love to run that test!
@eddieed_2328
@eddieed_2328 6 лет назад
How much is the MPG now? what is the cost of a CJ5 or CJ7 ?
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 6 лет назад
eddie ed IDK. Check eBay Motors?
@eddieed_2328
@eddieed_2328 6 лет назад
what is the ebay ad ?
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 6 лет назад
eddie ed Check Cummins’ website for pricing info on the engine. Search eBay for CJ auctions.
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful 7 лет назад
I'd swap a 2007 JKU!
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 года назад
So hoping they'll get approval soon beyond the '99 Wrangler model year limit!
@100pyatt
@100pyatt 6 месяцев назад
A 4.8 or 5.3 LS with a supercharger is much wiser and way more powerful
@ronn4238
@ronn4238 7 лет назад
What about putting it in an old rwd Cadillac?
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 7 лет назад
ronn4238 A big ol' Caddy would be interesting … I reckon these engines will end up in lots of places that no one would expect …
@louisbabycos106
@louisbabycos106 5 лет назад
@@mpgomatic Fiero
@JorgeVonVogler
@JorgeVonVogler 5 лет назад
Can I put this in a 99 dodge stratus
@milspec_tube
@milspec_tube 2 года назад
Create at 6 BT package and I would do it. 160 HP is a horrible thought. Jeeps are already under powered as it is.
@RJR47
@RJR47 6 лет назад
Honda Civic
@UOYtaLOL
@UOYtaLOL 5 лет назад
It's "50 state legal", but they won't sell it in Texas or West Virginia. Ha
@isaiahjohnson6536
@isaiahjohnson6536 4 месяца назад
2:04 my man does NOT approve 💀😭
@KA4UPW
@KA4UPW 5 лет назад
catapiller
@StopTargetingOurKids
@StopTargetingOurKids 2 года назад
Too bad there’s no kit for 2012 up jks
@louisbabycos106
@louisbabycos106 5 лет назад
Fiero anyone?
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 года назад
lol - Interesting side note... there "was" a pretty substantial Fiero Museum in Northern Michigan (who knew)... 'til the recent and unprecedented Spring floods (May 2020) ended up taking out two earthen dams that wiped out the museum and a large part of the small town where the museum was located.
@John-Dough_NineFoe
@John-Dough_NineFoe 3 года назад
Jeep wj
@jtaylorls1
@jtaylorls1 7 лет назад
Sounds great, but at around 7 grand for that motor plus everything else. Ls swap all day long.
@mfgxl
@mfgxl 7 лет назад
Still cheaper than a new ride.
@swank1975
@swank1975 6 лет назад
Try $9000 cumminsengines.com/repower.aspx
@gwot
@gwot 6 лет назад
for low speed offroad stuff, this Cummins will beat any LS any day. the diesel can idle over almost anything, and it will probably go 3 times as far in terms of fuel economy. And that is Cummins' target crowd.
@ejayerik
@ejayerik 6 лет назад
9k per the Cummings website.
@ethanturner5567
@ethanturner5567 7 лет назад
Hmm, common rail fuel injection & Bosch fuel system. Sounds like another VW nightmare. Are high pressure fuel pump issues with low sulfur diesel going to be an issue, as with the 2.0 VW plant? No thanks.
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 7 лет назад
Considering how constantly emissions standards keep changing, what may be legal now, may not be legal tomorrow. Cummins needs to be aware of that when developing a new engine, of any size.
@moparproud3978
@moparproud3978 7 лет назад
Not exactly Cummins' first rodeo there pal.
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 3 года назад
@@moparproud3978 I imagine it's a challenge with their full-sized 6BT Diesel engines.
@blacklabel416
@blacklabel416 6 лет назад
$9000, 161hp. Yeaaaah how about no
@gwot
@gwot 6 лет назад
do you understand the point of a diesel engine? it's all about low end torque. 267 lb-ft@1500-3000 RPM. you can literally idle over any boulder, cruise while towing at peak torque. This is not a race car's engine, it's meant for off road and overlanding road trips.
@blacklabel416
@blacklabel416 6 лет назад
That's what gearing is for.
@gwot
@gwot 6 лет назад
yes i agree gearing goes a long way, but that doesn't disprove my point that it's not about the HP. HP doesn't mean much off road and long road trips. but if you said no to $9000 for 267 lb-ft, i would have agreed with you.
@pankero1
@pankero1 6 лет назад
Did you say torque? Here are some specs on the jeep´s 4.0 L6: 1987 173 @ 4,500 - 215 @ 3,000 1988 177 @ 4,500 - 224 @ 2,500 1992 190 @ 4,750 -225 @ 4,000* 2003 190 - 235 @ $2000.00 for a new long block The R2.8 is 503 pounds: 161 hp @ 3600 / 267 lb-ft @1500-3000 RPM @ $9000.00 Youre better off with a stroker jeep engine: Golen Engine 4.6L Jeep Stroker Engine with its 270hp and 300 ft lbs of torque $4000.00 to $4400.00
@fluffykittynoodles
@fluffykittynoodles 6 лет назад
Alberto Mora but does a stroker get 30mpg?
@cliffordc9497
@cliffordc9497 6 лет назад
I would swat my Xterra engine
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player 6 лет назад
Clifford C ive been considering this as well.. just the 3.3t more power. an ur not dropping ten stacks on a ecm n harness. Its a diesel .. no comp. needed. . seriously contact me. I'm scheming on a big group effort.
@cliffordc9497
@cliffordc9497 6 лет назад
Mike you have my attention. But what do you mean no comp needed?
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player 6 лет назад
well the good ol cummins is the only diesel I'm aware of at least. that does not have nor could you install glow plugs for a old school Cummins to run you only need two things power to turn it on and power to shut it off
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player 6 лет назад
and with that beautiful Talent of combustion via compression there's nothing to go wrong componentwise and I know 4bts& b3.3t are outragesly high. rebuilt or not.. you're better off finding a service truck that has a 4B Etc or a school bus that has a brand new motor in it and tranny and they're usually sell them for like 45 or 7000.. here's my Kicker I want 2 collaborate with a diesel mechanic I'm good friends with an our odd ball mix of gear heads.. an other xterra/frontier owners.. .. our family owns a glass franchise 90% is auto n heavy equipment. as well I have a working relationship with a very large electric supply company.. "sets the massive supply lines" and a paving company/equipment resellers. they both have that edge I need to get these motors cheap. I'm focusing on first gen 2003-4 .. . actually bought a xterra bout 8 months ago unseen. for 500. an I drive it daily. just picked up a 4x4 to do a total frame swap after ive rebuilt all seals. n component upgrade. then jdm motor n tranny. in the mean time.. gotta get me some motors to rebuild . an mock up frame..
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player 6 лет назад
I want to establish a set of configurations that are dependable .. and reliability of the drivetrain. what tranny. adapter plates..will stock axles twist?.. what if I slam a 2000 frontier to the ground and boost the he'll out of it?? whats gonna be the weak ness. once we establish that. we can focus on applications. old Cherokee. geo tracker. there is a vehicle for every walk of life. an I'm getting sick of cars costing more and becoming more complicated and less reliable..
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 6 лет назад
Less power and torque than the TDI in my Volkswagen Passat, which only has 2.0 liters. Just saying.
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 6 лет назад
Oh, and my old '99 New Beetle TDI is still going after nearly 400,000 original miles, 250K of those as a test bed for extreme mods. (Big injectors, huge turbos, etc.) Never been opened up. Runs like new. Seems like the Cummins should be able to make more grunt than that.
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player
@Roblox_and_Fornite_player 6 лет назад
well u get 1000hp out a 6bt and 750 respectively from the 4bt .. think I'm exaggerating.. RU-vid.. seeing is believing
@MaroLuva
@MaroLuva 6 лет назад
its called emissions. just saying
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 5 лет назад
And it's way quiter, rev's up 1000+ RPM higher, good reliability...
@ffjsb
@ffjsb 6 лет назад
it's absolute bullshit that they put any restrictions on what you put in YOUR vehicle.
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