Curran Jacobs vs. Erik Hammer: 2018 Catch Wrestling World Championship/Snake Pit U.S.A. 

I would like to train in Catch wrestling but I don’t think there’s any schools near me

That was not a boring match at all.

IMO, this is one of the best catch wrestling matches ever.

How is this different to Freestyle wrestling?

No points, no time limits, no restarts to referee, no prohibited holds, you can win by submission...

Before the contest is one thing, that's part of the game. Afterward if respect is shown then that's whats up. When you see that other guy not shake his hand it's because what ever the other guy said online, was in his head. That's all that was. He probably is a good guy, most people actually are believe it or not.

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@@rhconn Oh Thanks for some Background

@Jake Yeah I bet if he would have won it would have been another story

Good competition here!

I agree.way better then bjj and on par with Japanese judo

@@nuyorican91st that's highly debatable dude

@@HessianLikeTheFabric "Pro Wrestling" isn't Olympic Wrestling, Olympic wrestling is "amateur" wrestling. Pro (or professional) Wrestling is WWE-style, which is more of a circus show then actual wrestling. It's just that WWE (and the rest of Pro Wrestling) started by Catch Wrestling which the wrestling wonn money for wrestling (thus "professional"), with time the matches became scripted and they added stuff to highten the entretaniment and the action (striking, jumping from the ring, beating people with chairs, etc). I do BJJ and I have nothing but 100% respect for Olympic/Amateur Wrestling.

@@HessianLikeTheFabricOlympic wrestling used to be amateur because the Olympics itself used to be exclusively amateur, with professionals begin barred from it, the last sport with this rule was boxing. Until like, 5 years ago, you couldn't box in the Olympics if you were a professional. WWE is Professional Wrestling, that's the technical/official term, even if it's not a sport (it's sports entretenimant technically) or even wrestling (it's more of a MMA if you think about it).

Once upon a time it looked like this until they figured out how to make it more entertaining, this is equally entertaining and useful, I mean they still (depending on the school) still teach you how to make some of these holds work if you need to defend yourself in the ring from an asshole.

@SaturdayNightSlamMaster that right it was Sandow,Touts and strangler? If I got all there last names and nicknames right.

The Hessian they’re talking about pro wrestling like wwe obviously freestyle, Greco and folk style are all 100% real

It’s actually really interesting, catch wrestling dates back to the 1800’s with people like Karl gotch, then in the 1930’s Ed “Strangler” Lewis began fixing catch matches and it slowly morphed into the pro wrestling we know and love today. Originally it was pretty much a con, hence why wrestling fans are called “marks” but after time went by and you got into the 50’s with guys like Lou Thesz it took off

Since you’re here a lot, why is one guy so much bigger than the other? Are there weight classes or is it heavyweight?

@@bradvincent2586I believe this was a heavyweight tournament, not sure why there is such a big size difference though

Agreed

Erik Hammer’s a strong dude, but I never knew he was playing a little dirty

This right here is how wwe style wrestling was born a century ago when promoters realised this aspect (good guy vs bad guy) draws more money than the pure athletic competition two guys trying to outwrestle each other ! It was very interesting to watch and that Curran guy was unbelievably good !

@@dannyhipolito817 it’s not REALLY dirty. Cross faces are part of wrestling. He’s throwing them pretty rough without a doubt, it’s just that’s part of the sport. It happens. Calling it dirty is… weaksauce. It’s nothing you even can complain about, so it’s not worth even thinking about when it’s happening. Curran handled it exactly the right way.

Same. I would really like to learn this art but I don't know where to start.

@@TheRealPDizzle i was lucky enough to start at an early age. Have you looked into if there's a gym near you? If not, even an mma gym and study everything on catch you can, from books & youtube and go to the open mats the mma gym has and practice your skills. Guys will get you with stuff, but just remember your learning and really pay attention to the tech of it. If you're looking for a good place to learn the basics, I suggest a DVD set by Tony cecchine called "the lost art of hooking". Its a great starting point for beginners. I really hope you get involved. Catch would love to have you 👍 Once you start this journey it will be a major part of your life that you can pass on to others.

Lacocacolaman dope breakdown!

Yes thank you

Dude in the tatoos kept feelingbthe other guys ass...

@@Warpath1337 time stamp or it didn't happen

@@Lacocacolaman 7:26 -7:34 is a whole lot of sexual assault.

josh barnett should have commentated after getting hurt

+cappucino108 too biased. This was his number one guy against his number one rival.

@@cappucino108 it’s a shame both Gotch and Robinson have passed. They would be your number one and number two choices a decade ago.

As long as its a commentator that has the knowledge to be a good play by play guy about the match going on in the Ring. Not some wwe color type where they talk about everything but the mach in the Ring. The right type of person commentating could help us with little to no knowledge learn how to follow and understand what's going on.

@@Thor-Orion They are mainly known because they were the two Wigan Snakepit guys to have a pro wrestling career in the USA. (John Foley who also wrestled at Riley's Gym made it to Stu Hart's Stampede territory in Calgary, Peter Thornley's alter ego the masked Kendo Nagasaki visited Stampede in 1972, Steve and Bernie Wright - brother and uncle of WCW star "Das Wunderkid" Alex Wright - also visited Calgary in the early 80s and a very young pre-Wigan Bert Assirati visited the US in the 1930s.) There are a load of other British wrestlers who trained at Riley's Gym or its rival Charnock's and never made it in the US due to being too small - Ernie Riley (Billy Riley's son) Billy Joyce, the 3 Belshaw brothers, Tommy "Jack Dempsey" Moore, Melwyn Riss etc etc all won titles in the lower weight divisions in old British "World Of Sport" pro wrestling but never really made it Stateside in the Bigger, Badder world of American Wrestling. Karl and Billy did well in America which is why they get singled out for praise.

no, the level of disrespect in the beginning was unreal. respecting your opponent is normal.

Lol

@Jake It's a cheap and corny tactic

@Jake gtfoh

Gotchism 4Life also marcelo garcia

I agree and the sportsmanship was bad at the beginnng

Most pro wrestling was always a work since time immemorial unless there was a double cross, or two guys unable to agree a finish (eg Hackenschmidt vs Gotch from 1908) or things just got out of control ( eg Caddock vs Stecher 1920 where a mentally ill Stecher forced a legit contest)

@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 Nah it wasn't Catch Wrestling is the precursor and thats the legit style. I'm talkin older than that, mane. I'm talkin hours long wresting matches with two dudes trying to snap each others arm. It was the carnivals that corrupted it into the work it is now.

@@theend3541 People have been doing show wrestling since time immemorial. There were Greco Roman style show wrestling matches in circuses in France in the 1830s. Any talk of matches going on for hours comes from Strangler Lewis vs Joe Stecher from 1915 which went 5 hours, but that was not a shoot either, that one was a betting scam which went horribly wrong. There were shoots but they happened for backstage business reasons, not just for the love of the sport. (And obviously two guys in the gym in private are shooting but the only people who will watch that are other wrestlers.)

Move to Oscala. Closest one.

I'm a BJJ guy, and I agree. But can we both agree that Judo competitions are better to watch than both?

@@djstaplerKosen judo is my jam

Oliver Lee it will be on real wrestling mats 27 Feb 👍🏻

Matt M hercules choke

Matt M but sir, Samoa Joe renamed it as Coquina Clutch...

@Dylan Murphy actually they win with judo hold ude garami, sanaku jime. I never see a catch use a triangle, but yeah all grappling is not just bjj mahbe is the most popular but not the only one

@Dylan Murphy catch started in 1870 and is combination of european styles of wrestlimg and had influenced from jujutsu and a indian style of wrestling. Unfortunately real catch is very dificult to find today.

@Dylan Murphy the carnivals travelled the world and develop the art that originate in england. Submission wrestling had a history of hunders even thousan years but catch not. In ancient greece the wrestling included submission holds and the greeks aldo have panktration that has the same rules wigh vale tudo 2000 years before vale tudo

Five Star Fuck ADCC, not all grappling is BJJ

Perhaps you can convince him not to participate but me, I am going to wish him luck. Why Catch Wrestler Curran Jacobs Plans To Compete at the ADCC Trials adcombat.com/why-catch-wrestler-curran-jacobs-plans-to-compete-at-the-adcc-trials/

It would go a long way to proving that catch can compete with BJJ. Barnett has been the only guy in catch to compete at the highest levels of grappling (Metamoris against Lister).

Dylan Murphy So one guy. Has anyone else done anything of note? If catch had proven itself, more guys would be competing at higher levels of grappling.

Dylan Murphy So why haven’t more “quality” guys gone in and dominated in grappling?

Catch Wrestling is one of the sports of all time

Lol, what mos/unit were you & in?

ROFL

Vijay Kumar This is what Pro Wrestling used to be. Television time constraints and promoters forced “worked” matches and began favoring flashy personalities instead of legit Catch Wrestlers called Shooters. These Shooters would often anger the promoters because if they didn’t feel like losing they would legitimately beat their opponent. We have some new events coming up with some modified rules. We’ll see how it goes. 👍🏻 - J. Bane

No he wouldn’t have. He got choked.

I think you missed my point. I just meant that if this were a Catch Match with points and a time limit, Erik would have won. Those weren't the rules obviously, and it shows how good Curran was that he beat him, but there is no reason to take anything away from Erik, he is obviously a beast.

And by the way, I do think it was wrong and poor sportsmanship not to shake hands.

The was also Curran's second match after a war with Johnny Buck. Hammer had a short match with Pat Stano and he was pretty fresh. If this were the first match, and if there were points etc., Curran would have wrestled differently. No way would Erik Hammer beat Curran in a folkstyle or freestyle match. Also don't forget that Hammer was saved by the bell with that first choke.

Rets Rational STFU about points points fighting in any martial art kills the true essence of martial arts. In a real life situation no one’s gonna give a shit about points! But a fight or a grappling match should be no points. And Catch came before Fresstyle Wrestling, that’s what freestyle comes from! The minute you add a points system is the day you destroy Catch as Catch can

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It was, he got injured and the bigger dude is one of his primary training partners and got his spot.

Tattoo guys is a little hotter ha

@@johnbuck8399 lol not what I meant but okay, I can see that.

@@jdamagedgoods sorry that’s where my head went 😂

So do I. Catch could be a much bigger deal if marketed correctly.

it really is, submission wrestling will always draw my attention far more then the mma world.

Who thought it was new?

This is what pro wrestling before it become a work.

I watched some old catch vids years ago where they pulled guard. Don't ask me where and if you can find it let me know. They didn't all have the same rule set.

Here is an incomplete list of mostly MMA practitioners over the years along with a few legit Pro Wrestlers. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_wrestling#Notable_practitioners

The idea of using a ring is to see what things would be like in a parallel universe where pro wrestling as a shoot is a viable spectator sport.