CURSE of the Best New Artist Grammy (2000-2004) 

First todd in the shadows releases his man of the woods trainwreckords video and now this? Oh man, I'm living in heaven

I saw the Songs In A Minorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr gag coming and it still had me cracking up.

Nothing can shock me more than learning that Robert Christgau gave Devil Without A Cause an A-.

imo evanescence can’t be that cursed when the greatest fanfiction ever written was named after one of their songs. truly the mark of success.

I had no idea who Katy Hudson was so I looked it up and when I say my jaw dropped when THAT info hit me eyeballs. Cannot wait to see how the next chapter of this retrospective plays out.

The Evanescence thing: The curse was not only put on them, but in Nu Metal in general. I think the Grammy win was the genre's final nail in the coffin. The Nu Metal moment ended right there.

I was wondering the whole 2001 segment why Linkin Park wasn't being mentioned since Hybrid Theory came out in 2000, but when they came up in the 2002 segment, I was like "I knew you'd make a good call nominating them since that album defined the early 00's". And I also gave a standing ovation when Bring Me to Life started playing.

1:22:00 The greatest flex of any content creator.

Coincidentally I just learned who Susan Tedeschi was this week because Fender just released a signature Telecaster for her, based on that green one right there.

I’ll say this: the Michelle Branch Santana song written by the New Radicals’ Gregg A. (Which was supposed to have been sang originally by Tina Turner and later Macy Gray) is pretty good

OK, if you actually did know people who had the Katy Hudson album, that's amazing considering the label collapsed right as that album was coming out

The 2000s are a massive blind spot for me because I was in music school. When you're a music major, you don't listen to new popular music because you're way too busy learning about every other type of music and playing the same pieces over and over again until you get them right. I have had to learn about this decade almost entirely via video essays.

As a Canadian who lived through the Freedumb Convoy, I deeply appreciated the Ram Ranch reference!

1:34:15 I feel you Crash, with your Yeah Yeah Yeah pick. TV On The Radio’s debut album was also in 2004.

I paused the video. I'm guessing by the footage, shelby lynn debuted in the late 80s. Which is insane already. Edit: ARE YOU KIDDING? I GOT IT RIGHT?

My god was the wait WORTH IT Crash. This series of videos is one of if not the best and most underrated series on RU-vid PERIOD. Seriously if this became the only series of videos you ever did i'd be here for ALL OF IT.

*hears Goofy rendition of "Bring me to Life"* *Hits subscribe button so hard I may have cracked my screen protector on my phone!* 🤣

The BIGGEST 2000 (99) Best New Artist snub: EMINEM

I’m still into Michelle Branch honestly

I know you mentioned it in the last one, but the White Stripes “broke through” in 2001 with White Blood Cells, and I think they would’ve been a good contender, especially in a year with “Is This It”. I just really love the White Stripes

Can you believe that The Grammys had the balls not to nominate a Karen? Come on, I had to make that joke. I love Yeah Yeah Yeahs too.

An entire video with only one Kinda Cursed is a pretty good run I’ve already seen the BNA winners for 05-09 and hooooo boy… that’s gonna get… interesting…

ashanti and ja rule were HUGE in urban areas that year. my high school could not get enough of ashanti. that sound being everywhere, they basically popularized it.

It wasn't their debut, but I was kinda surprised you didn't mention that SOAD dropped Toxicity in 2001, for as stinky as that year may have been, that's one of the albums that kept it from being a true stinker.

As someone who followed Crash since around 2016, it is crazy to see him say something nice about Papa Roach... But as someone who likes a lot of Papa Roach's music, I am happy to hear it.

Counterpoint: 2001 wasn't all dross. That was also the year we got _Toxicity, Amnesiac,_ and motherf**king _Lateralus._ However, to your points about Norah Jones... I'm not going to argue that she's the most exciting artist in the world, or that she necessarily deserved to sweep the Grammys like that. Hell, that's not my type of music either. But I do think it's worth remembering the context of the culture during that time period. See, there's a _reason_ that the sonic equivalent of Ambien was so appealing in 2002, of all years. I distinctly remember what things were like immediately post-9/11. I remember the American flags everywhere. I remember the genuine sense of togetherness (at least until it was squandered in the Iraq War and the polarization worsened in the decades since). And I also remember the way that, for a period of about 1-2 years, Americans' popular culture tastes suddenly became (in general) a _lot_ more reserved, introspective, and in need of some sense of stability. The party of the 80s and 90s was over, and 2002 was the hangover. So we got both Enrique Iglesias *and* the duo of Chad Kroeger/Josey Scott each having a massive hit titled "Hero", and even _Enya_ had her biggest hit in over a decade. People were in shock and in mourning, and gentle, calming music was a big part of the healing process for a lot of them. So it really doesn't surprise me one bit that an album like _Come Away with Me_ would sweep the Grammys that year-- that album is about as inoffensive and nonconfrontational as they get. If there was _any_ year in recent American history that I genuinely don't fault the Grammys for playing it safe, it's 2002.

"Yeah man, this like a not racist Eric Clapton, I can vibe to this" is an incredible endorsement of early Susan Tedeschi.

BABE WAKE UP! CRASH IS BACK!

I'm that Norah Jones fan! I'm genuinely excited when she drops new music and I even check out her podcast! I unapologetically love her stuff and she consistently makes my top twenty five songs of the year!

- Hybrid Theory was absolutely a cultural reset, on the level of Nevermind imho. - I maintain that Michelle Branch was most interesting when she was making country music. - I actually have heard that Katy Hudson album and believe it or not it's not bad? Kind of Fiona Apple vibes iirc, and the lyrics aren't too cringeworthy by CCM standards

Justin Timberlake and Beyoncé weren't eligible for obvious reasons bro hahaha. Beyoncé had already won Grammys before her solo career. Great video!

If 7:44 doesn’t convince you people to like this video then we have failed humanity. Anyway all joking aside the Second half of the 2000’s decade is going to be an even more interesting (& sometimes tragic) one to follow up with. Crash is back!

1:27:09 The way I almost *SHIT MY PANTS* when I heard this come up at work... I've been singing FoW's praises for literal years and they were honestly one of the last acts I expected to get a Grammy nomination, but I am 100% here for it.

Awesome to see you again, dude. Awesome doggo too.

Norah Jones is still amazing to this day & she’s one of my favorite artists. And I’m an older millennial

seeing love addict made me realize it's probably my worst guilty pleasure ever, thanks Crash

Man, seeing Crash talk about Crazy Town after finding out about Shifty today...

Okay, as someone who LOVES Evanescence to pieces… calling Amy a “Ren-Fair Goth Mom” is pretty funny to me. Also, I don’t really call them “nu-metal”. They’re more goth metal to me.

Norah Jones won so hard, she passed the curse to Avril Lavigne

4:43 WHY DID I LITERALLY PREDICT EXACTLY WHAT SONG IT WAS LMAO

Watching this the day after it was released. On 2000. All I have to say, RIP Shifty Shell Shock. May not be a huge fan of Crazy Town, but 49 is too young and a reminder that life’s too short.

Finally Finally I been waiting for this 3rd part for a long time love this series

The TBS mentions made me very, very happy. Thank you so much for mentioning my face band, they deserve more recognition! ❤

The fact that Ill Nino's debut wasn't even considered for the 2002 BNA is absolutely unforgivable.

By the way, i understand your confusion over Jill Scott, Macy Gray, India Arie, Heather Headley nominations but Ashanti dominated her rookie year. Foolish was everywhere.

Re: Sufjan If anyone tells you that A Sun Came is not his worst record, you are talking to a liar. However, I would howl with laughter if the album with ‘super sexy woman’ on it would have been nominated for a Grammy. I wanna live in that world so bad.

I am very happy that you mentioned Shinedown debut in 2003. I am very surprised that they have never been nominated for Grammy.

Hey crash, I’ve been a fan since 2015 on different accounts. Before I even start the video, I wanna tell you that your sets have ALWAYS been on point. I don’t think I can recall any other music content creator with as good of sets as you’ve consistently had throughout your time on RU-vid. Thank you for your effort, it is NOT unnoticed.

always happy to see the lovable Crash again in my sub feed :D

I actually got introduced to Norah Jones when she did the song Everybody Needs a Best Friend from Ted and I actually got into her music from there. Also saying Sean Paul sounds like King Julien from Madagascar 😂

R.I.P. shifty shellshock from crazy town

I actually screamed when I saw that puppy.

I was rewatching in loop the previous videos. I'm happy that I can now watch this new video for at least 100000 times. That said, thank you. You're one of the people that made me obsess to music even further

New Crash Thompson content?!?! Sooo innnn

This is going to sound wild coming from me if you know me, but Norah Jones' Come Away With Me actually has a very special place in my heart. My mom used to play it in the car a lot when I was in late elementary/early middle school, and it's stuck with me on a very deep personal level in a way that I never really thought about until you started playing those instrumentals in the background and I *immediately* got in my feelings realising how many lyrics I knew by heart. Excellent little comfort record. I should listen to more of her work.

Just wanted to say this is a really well done video, really love this series. Hope whatever series you do next has as good a qualify as these Grammy Curse videos has.

love ya Crash, i've been watching for I think 7 years now, and it always makes my day whenever you drop a new vid, worth the wait every single time

35:11 You just blew my mind, this is insane

YESSSSSSSS. I LOVE THE LONGER FORM CONTENT YOU DO FAR MORE THAN REVIEWS!! GLAD YOU ARE BACK AND SEEMINGLY HAPPY!

Happy to see a new vid from you!!!

Thank you so much for this! I was so excited when I saw this and it was fantastic. Definitely worth the wait. Also, I like the restructuring of the format where you hold off on saying who won, it's really fun!

Welcome back, you have been missed.

CRASH!! It’s so good to see you back :)

I love this series so much. So happy to see it continue

1:02:38 IIRC ppl being mad at Alicia for the makeup thing was moreso about her attitude than the act itself. She came off “holier than thou” & when ppl noticed that she actually was wearing a bit of “no makeup-makeup” the whole time they were quick to call her dishonest. There was also some decent discussion on colorism in the music industry & how lightskinned women are allotted more space to make decisions like Alicia’s (tho this ofc isn’t her fault). Even taking all that into account it was admittedly overblown in hindsight

Great to see you again Crash! We missed you man. And the Spiritual Machines in the back is peak class

shit, how have i not discovered this channel before? really cool idea for a series and it shows that you put a lot of effort into this!

Yes, i missed your videos Crash. I hope you'll do 2010's next. That was the real curse of the Grammys.

Welcome back, just in time for Pride, missed ya lots

I LOVE YOUUUUUUU!!!!!! I AM SO INTO THIS! LOVE YOU! WELCOME BACK, CRASH! Todd came out with his new video yesterday but I was more excited for this!!!

You need to do more of these!!

Welcome back Crash‼️💯😎🎧👍🏾🔥

59:38 No, you're not wrong. Sinner is leagues above every other Drowning Pool album.

NEW FOUND GLORY MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I was a longtime Shelby Lynne fan and I was like "New Artist?"

Ayy i'm late but i'm finally here, after a soulcrushing day at work. Thanks, Crash, i needed this.

My Shelby Lynn guess is funny because at first I thought 1989 but then I figured that was too recent so I pushed back to 1982 Edit: and turns out my first guess was correct! Isn't it funny how the gut feeling can be better than the second guess sometimes. Really funny how I overshot (undershot?) that one. I wonder if that's a record, regardless. The one other artist I can think of off the top of my head who starting making music long before their Best New Artist nod is Japanese Breakfast, Michelle Zauner's project which started in 2013 and released its debut in 2016, five years before Jubilee (which, granted, was JB's first album to chart on the Billboard 200) garnered her a Best New Artist nod.

So glad you’re back! I was -3 in 99, and an early 2000s baby, and I wish I could’ve been older around this time

Can't wait for the next installment. Your son is adorable!

Jill Scott and India Arie both deserved their nominations. Calling them a safe choice is so lame. Everything doesn’t have to be rock or yt hip hop. They sang NeoSoul records. Old yt men have to be stopped 🤦‍♂️

I have a few comments to make about the 03 Grammys. First of all, I’m not surprised at all that Ashanti was nominated. She was all over the top 40 radio in 2002, both with her own stuff and as a featured artist on other rapper’s songs. She actually saved a couple of Ja Rule’s Cormier radio jits just by being there. Also, “Be Not Nobody” was a really good debut for Vanessa Carlton. I agree she definitely deserved a nod that year.

welcome back, crash :)

Huge miss for debut in 99-00 is The Dillinger Escape Plan’s Calculating Infinity. Sure it would never get nominated, but you know it made waves with even Lars Ulrich was giving it nods in interviews…

CRASH IS BACK YESSS

The legend returns 🔥

If you got that Drab Majesty shirt at a recent Slowdive show… hell yeah brother, gang

Some of the greatest albums of all time came out in 2001 too, very mixed year

The legend has returned!

Return of the king!!

It’s wild how many of these grammy noms are on rotation at my retail job

Not gonna lie, Avril Lavigne was one of my first childhood crushes and I quickly got into Let Go despite being quite younger than the album's target audience. So I'm glad she got that nomination.

Aww a good pupper!!! Glad to see you doing this series again! Can't wait to hear you tackle the 2005/06 group of John Legend, Keane, Fall Out Boy, Sugarland, and Ciara...the definition of millennial music.

Great. 9/11 is officially cannon in the Crash Cinematic Universe 🥺 Another great video. You're totally underrated ma dude☺️ love the videos.

8:00 awwww what a good handsome little boy 😍 putting your dog in a video is a cheat code, but it's a cheat I truly appreciate

Been very entertained and learning about some artists I had never heard of before. Earned a sub. Also: kindof bittersweet to see some of these artists that I thought could have been The Next Big Thing (e.g., India.Arie) never *quite* rise to that level. The music business is a fickle thing.

Alright, if you can make a living off flipping off your old highschool, you know you’re doing something right.

Looks up the artists that are featured in the next episode and sees who won in 2008: yeah, it doesn't get more cursed than that artist.

I really hate the "aughts" and "noughties" as names, With the exception of maybe the 1920s we don't give decades dumb neat nicknames so why did the 2000s get 2 popular dumb nicknames?

I only know of Macy Gray because she's in Spiderman 2002.

THE RETURN