Customer Says He Can't Get The Rotor Off! 

They DON'T??? Oh my! Could that be why my brake pedal takes 15 minutes to return each time I have to stop with both feet...?

😂

Thank the lord the valve was closed because grease in the brake plunger would be bad. Especially if pushed all the way up to the master cylinder which is what he surely would have done if he could. He was an especially adept student having never serviced brakes before.

Same thing happened to me about 35 years ago, new guy, first day at work, hey why won’t this fitting take grease, I let the service manager know, new guy didn’t come back to work after lunch.

Lol, I did that to my Volkswagen bug when I was 15….😆😂🤣

It's basic math, mistakes are a small percentage of the total numbers of the things u do, so if u do nothing then the mistakes percentage multiplied by zero will equal zero lol, an old saying says best way to not make mistakes is by doing nothing ...

I’ve done smart 💩and I’ve done dumb 💩😎

Yep I have done a lot. So therefore one could assume I’ve done a lot of stupid things. Your right!

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40 years as a feet mechanic, a long time co-worker had the saying, “If you’re not breaking something, you’re not doing anything.”

Had a guy that couldn't bleed the brakes on his 2500 HD 6.0 silverado...he put brand new rear calipers. Yeah on the wrong side/bleeders pointing down. Brake lines were about to go too so...but yeah.

offered a $60 brake special once.... girl brought in a white impala. then she comes unglued because i charged her the state sales tax!!! a week later i get a white impala in... Gee, this car looks familiar!! It was her dad. He said she was too embarrassed to come back and get the rear brakes done too ! i smiled pretty good on that one!

Had this happen with a steering box on a Dodge Durango... man was I embarrassed. Although that had more to do with not having a press to get the pitman arm off the box (I broke my puller on the darn thing!). One of many reasons I traded that thing away. Good riddance!

Pssh, I have a torch. I’m keeping my pride! It’s just a matter of how many extra parts do I have to replace. . .

I never half ass anything I do. But jobs usually end up taking me way fucking longer than the should, and I always get way deeper than I initially anticipate. Still haven't had to ask for help yet though lmao. But I've had to struggle thorough jobs blindingly frustrated many a time

I have done the exact same thing, only the drain was clogged and the sink half full before I pulled the trap and drained it into the bucket. I'm glad to find out I'm not the only one to do that particular dumb thing.

I did the same thing.... more than once.

Guilty.

Yup, ✔

Yes, done that, being a plumber you do it once and learn your lesson.

Did that with my rear drums once lol

We have all been there

Been there.

@@RedfishCarolina Need a bigger dead blow hammer if the 10 lb one isn't budging the drum. The brake hardware pins will usually give up within 20 blows.

We’ve all done it at least once

yeap you learn by doing it as in hands on is best teacher

Absolutely! I am a millwright and I tell all my apprentices that it's good to make mistakes but only if you LEARN from them! 👍

@@billyjustbilly7923 As a machinist for over 22 years And live to tell about it.

@@whereswaldo5740 nice! I got my machinist ticket 27 years ago! Love the trade. Just wish it paid more.

If a good mechanic makes a lot of mistakes once, I'm the best there ever was. 😏😃

It's below their pay grade....

When I used that excuse was told you must have done a lot in your life!

I had a friend who wasn't a mechanic but worked on his cars and some of his friends cars said to me " I'm getting better at fixing brakes" wtf? It's something you don't want to be bad at. It's amazing that bolt didn't break with the size of those hammer marks.

That goes along with what they used to tell me at works sometimes--if you ain't screwing up, you ain't getting anything done.

@@MrBirdnose i am fortunate enough to have a Milwaukee M18 1/2" electric impact, zips that bolt off without any hesitation. Love that thing

@@missingdll2976 Yeah, the most recent time I did one I had an impact wrench and it made the job a lot easier. The spare engine had been sitting for a while in a coastal environment and there was just no way, though, even the impact wouldn't break it loose. I split two sockets trying to get it loose by hand. I decided there was nothing for it but to drill it, and partway through that process it loosened up. Dunno why, maybe removing a chunk from the center reduced the binding forces.

I read a story of ship engine disasters. A mechanic left his socket on a gear for the valve timing. Shredded the engine. Your day could have been much, much worse.

lol..i bet your heart stopped for that split second

Doing timing without turning over the engine more times than absolutely necessary by hand? you're a braver man than me :)

Hahaha you should have seen my face when I realized what I could get to with the fender liners removed on a JK.

Or when you miss a bolt on an oil pan or valve cover. That's always fun.

Saw a guy do a full race build on his B18A Honda engine. That last step was putting in the oil pressure sending unit at which point he cracked the block wide open with too many ugga duggas.

I had a jeep that was missing the liner and while on the lift, the tires sag a lot so I had plenty of space for the EGR tube which I needed to remove to do intake and valve cover seals. I thought I would not be able to reach it when I first had a look at it lol. Wasnt an overlook but may had me stuck for a few if I didn't look to the side.

@@InsideOfMyOwnMind oh you gotta be kidding. Probably one of those guys that uses a 3 foot breaker bar and 5 foot pipe on an oil drain plug

Hondas have set screws in their rotors

Hahahaha what @@bensonzhang550 said, Honda is the one manufacturer that puts set screws in the rotors! Talk about falling down on the job! LOL

Yep, Honda is one of the makes which have set screws. I think what happened is he knew that and just assumed the GMC didn't use set screws in the rotors (I would have assumed the same thing, but hopefully I would have noticed).

Chicken dinner :)

Removed all her clothes, couldn't get the nut off. After hell of a battle finally whipped that nut waved bye to her and left.

LMAOOOO

🤣🤣🤣

😄👍🏽

Put on a chewed-up rotor

@@georgeshadrick3916 y T

Ah people make mistakes and get frustrated especially when they aren’t knowledgeable about it and aren’t experienced. I’ve been there myself multiple times.

When I used that excuse was told you must have done a lot in your life!

Best quote ever

Thanks for your story. My dad was more skilled than me, so my stories aren't the same. Still, he was a great dad and some of my fondest memories are about working on vehicles. I miss him.

Done the same thing on the first 4 runner I seen cause the service Manager was yelling hurry up. Jokes on him, job took twice as long

Hahaha! I picked up two used motorcycles 4 years ago.i stripped one down and went through it cleaning, replacing and adjusting things. It was my first time working on a bike. The first one came out good , it was my test bike to see if I wanted to realy get involved in the bikes. I sold the first one and used the proceeds to purchase the parts that the other bike would need. I was floating on cloud nine, so damned happy that it was easier than I had thought it would be. I wanted to check the engine first, so cleaned up the exterior of the engine to make it easier to see any leaks. I bought new crush washer, the good oil, I even flushed the engine. I did some other minor stuff, and then started refilling the oil. Within 15 seconds, my knee pads were soaked in oil; I forgot to put the oil pan bolt back in. 2litres of oil wasted. The air was blue with all the swear words I was spitting out. I had to eat crow when my wife came out to see what all the fuss was about😭

I had an older customer that had his first front wheel drive car, and he miss took the oil cap for the radiator cap, it messed things up a bit.

Oops!

Big Clive I love your videos too.

Quite a compliment coming from a master class video producer..

Only the maker knows where all the flaws are. Go ahead and take the compliments and appreciation where you find them. This has been a really hard one for me to swallow but getting better at it.

hello.

And, if someone learned about the bolt that holds some rotors on, it was worth it.

I can see how that would've helped. 😂

Guilty of that one. Lol

@E36EM3 - Thanks. I can appreciate that now.

I remember changing alternators on my '94 Cavvie. Everything is back together except the serpentine belt. Buddy insisted he wanted to install the serpentine belt. OK, FINE, Mr. Hotshot, go for it. 3 cigarettes later, I'm standing 20 feet away from him, trying not to laugh hysterically (and failing) as he was cursing enough to make a sailor blush. He was loud enough that his neighbor, who had very little idea on how to work on cars, came over to see what was up. So Mikey and I stood there watching our friend try in vain to install one silly serpentine belt on a 2.2L. 4th cigarette down, I ask, "Do you want me to do it?" "NO! I GOT IT!" So I lean over to Mikey, the neighbor, who had just bought a '92 Cavalier 2.2L of his own, and said, "remember when you bought your Cavvie two weeks ago, I popped the hood on it, looked at your engine for 3 seconds, and told you the serpentine belt was installed wrong?" "Yeah." "Do you remember which way I showed you it went on?" "Yup. Right after you showed me, I went home and practiced a few times. There's a picture on the metal cross piece (upper radiator support) isn't there? Mine has it, does yours?" "Yup." "And he can't follow the picture?" "Nope." "Dave, it goes around the crankshaft. Left side of the belt goes around the power steering pump. Right side of the belt comes up, goes backwards around the water pump, over the tensioner, and then you put the breaker bar on the tensioner and slip the belt over the alternator pulley." "I KNOW WHAT TO DO! I WISH YOU GUYS WOULD JUST SHUT UP AND LET ME DO IT!" I beamed with pride, because I taught this kid that just bought his first car how to properly install his serpentine belt, and not only did he practice at home later that day so he would know how to do it himself, but he had actually memorized the belt routing. Yet this other guy, who has almost as much experience working on cars as I did at the time, was completely clueless, even with the OEM diagram. I actually pushed him out of my way, yanked the breaker bar out of his hand, and said, "I got stuff to do today, I can't wait for you." 45 seconds later, belt installed, and Mr. Hotshot standing there dumbfounded. Haven't had the car since 2011, and I still have that belt route memorized. lol

So true!

That's really good advice right there.

@@DaddyBeanDaddyBean Yup. I haven't had this happen but I heard that advice long ago and never forgot it. Someday it'll come in handy.

Ill never forget this. It seems simple to remember, just haven't thought about it that way before.

Somewhere down the road you'll probably save lots of people unnecessary grief with that story. Good on you.

Since only ‘spannering’ on my cars in the later years of my life this is one of the most important pearls of wisdom I have learned...luckily never had ‘that one’ that doesn’t undo...but I have always checked the full plug first.. not sure who it was that mentioned it first.. maybe on this channel...

Yup. I've done that. I flared a brake line without putting the fitting on too. Start over....YES! The second flare never goes as smooth either.

Have you tried to fix your mistake by splitting a shrink wrap the long way to fit it over your work to only find out it doesn’t shrink like you thought it would 🥲

LMAO I just did that 2 days ago putting lights on my tractor.

Been there, done that!

I've forgotten that when I just used used the last terminal/butt connector, remembered right after I crimped it.

its called being humbled by something as equally stupid

Absolutely. My thoughts exactly.

Eric,you may need to modify your"If I can do it you can do it."

We have all indeed done stupid stuff, just hiked a trail I did about ten years ago today in search of trout. Long story short, the water was low, the fish were small, and my assuming that the trail being labeled "loop" meant it goes back to the trail head. Nope! Checked GPS after about an hour of walking to discover that I was in fact headed to the state park 8 miles away, and would need to retrace every one of my steps. A bit of due diligence would have sent me disc golfing instead!

This is what I'd want in my mechanic

It’s a very good trick, especially if you’re in the Rust Belt.

Hammer and punch works similarly.

Old millwright trick to take a ballpeen hammer and rap around rusty bolt to vibrate and break loose rusted corroded parts for easier removal ...

Shake n brake works great too

Honestly for a DIY car guy, working on your own stuff - especially anything even kinda sorta old. An air hammer is invaluable, as well as a small propane torch. The number of seized bolts/parts i was able to remove and save because of the tools is unreal. ... Unfortunately the number of bolts and parts I destroyed and stripped and caused myself countless more hours of work before I got an air hammer and torch is much higher 😅

True. You almost always make more selling shovels to the gold miners during a gold rush than you would mining for gold yourself!

Yeah, that's what I thought.

funny but so true!

Always told people, it isn’t a mistake, it was a learning opportunity

@@762531971 "An inconvienance is an adventure wrongly considered." G.K. Chesterton

I will if I can find a 10mm socket ...

@@daveklassen7052 A 7mm will do in a pinch.

Well said!

You didn't mention that the weather app on his phone said severe thunderstorms in 35 minutes were going to hit.

We've all been through it.

brake fluid is THE WORST just because it is so corrosive

@@patonbike Feels impossible to clean off too. I'll still go with gear oil as the worst though because of the stink.

Yup - remember doing my first drum brake job and was trying SO HARD to not let that piston open up or drain... I DID NOT want to get air in the system... then when trying to install the new shoes and springs, I pushed the piston right out... NOW we have to bleed the system! Arrrrgh.

@@rangerrick8220 Been there!!!!!!!!!!

Not tried brake fluid.. how does it compare to coolant? Had the misery of tasting that a couple of times..

I was just thinking he put about ten times as much as is smeared on every single item in my roadside tool bag. That stuff can coat unbelievably well. I wish Ford had used as much on my entire Focus as he did on those wheels.

Always goes faster the second time!

Well that's just good planning; you saved yourself some time there by pre-loosening all your fasteners on the dry-run. Clutch change would have taken longer to complete if you hadn't taken it all apart beforehand 😜

I just ran without a pilot bearing when I made that same mistake. Ruined a freshly built transmission in less then 10k kms Oops

thats a good one

that's funny !

When I took shop class in the ninth grade we were going through the automotive phase of the class and rebuilding an engine. The joke throughout the classmates was rebuilding the engine all nice and purdie, cleaning the area up, and see a piston/connecting rod sitting on the work bench.

@@OcRefrig sho nuff!

@@donaldhollums3278 Extra parts! No need to worry, just put in the glove box in case you need another down the road...1/4 mile down the road.

I should have read this before yesterday. My post is somewhere here.

Yes I myself used to use those threaded holes as well to force off brake drums until the day i had one of the drums crack doing this. I think the engineers put these threaded holes there on purpose so you would crack the drum and have to buy a new one!!

I learned something new there, Its nice to know. I thought he would of had to get the blow torch out and heat it up.

WD or PB and a hammer will work to if you don't have air. At least it has for me more than once. They can start coming out and tighten up. Stop. Soak it again and work it back n forth. They can strip.

Or just drill them out of they're being stubborn. They are really just there for safety on the assembly line.

@@dustintunis9347 Yep, also they are handy for doing brake jobs, as they hold it all together nice and just perfect, but if they strip ect, they're getting tossed. Wood drill bits work appearantly in a pinch i've found out.

@@baileyhatfield4273 Yeah they're like butter to drill out. Luckily.

Same thing here

i try to test first more these days , than just going with my gut. voltmeter could have saved u some time probably.

HA!

I've been a mechanic for 48 years. I only quit leaving rotors out when I put distributor caps on when coil on plug came around.

I put the friction plate the wrong way round in a clutch job. Threw the gearbox in, subframe, battery, driveshaft, start up......no clutch! 😠🤦 Take gearbox out for the second time..... 😁

Good one ya I've done that one

Or when i put a wheel bearing in a Honda odyssey with the magnetic side in...

Neither is the youngest kid!!! Just sayin'!!

It's interesting that he cracks that joke on Father's Day 2021... 😁

Funniest “F”ing thing I’ve heard in a long time!!

all because the rotors wouldn't come off LOL...

@@rayworx "Don't worry, you can still celebrate Father's Day. One of the five kids is yours... just can't remember which."

The guy would have brought the truck back in a week complaining, It sounds like an ice cream truck going down the road.

I buy cases of brake clean and none of em make that sound

There's your problem fella. They didn't come from Napa. Lol

That's how you can identify a counterfeit.

@@Thomasploeg1968 Not a sponsor. :-P

I’m still trying, but they never do it for me.

😂

As a teenager I change the back tire of the truck and drove about a mile down the road when when the tire come off at passed my truck with my girlfriend sitting next to me. It kind of bounced in slow motion for quite a ways. Forgot to tighten the Lugnuts but fortunately I still had 2 good holes so I took Lugnuts off the other tires and bolted up just enough to get to the tire shop.

Years ago I had a 1981 half ton ford pickup.I worked in a truck repair shop. The pickup little drum's Manny 8 inch round. Thay were $65 the large heavy truck drum's were $55. Also I had A 1979 thunderbird which had three larger brakes

Yup, I remember trekking around town to find parts for my van, scrap yard, auto parts, etc, I start with the internet now.

I was watching another viddeo where they pulled out a black (CarQuest?) can of brake clean I was disappointed in the lack of a sound effect.

@@cgmoog He forgot to put it on the charger the night before

Had that exact thing happen to a friend of my daughter's. I had already told the kid that the rearend in her jeep (GC) had apparently locked up and it'd have to be towed from our house to a repair shop. After a little more poking around, I discovered something very similar; Her dad had worked on the brakes recently. A caliper bolt self-ejected somewhere along the line, allowing the caliper to swing out and lock against the inside of the rim. Sent the girls to the auto parts store for a caliper bolt and had her back on the road for a few bucks.

I've had a caliper come loose and I got home using the ebrake but it was in the middle of the night. I've always tightened the shit out of my bracket bolts so not sure how that one happened. Must have forgot

One happy fellow did front diffenrential rebuild to his 4x4 wheeled excavator. Too bad he mounted front diff wrong way, so front wheels spin opposite direction.

That's scary. Might just be me but brake stuff is one area of car repair I always stop when I think I'm done and methodically go through every bolt just for my own sanity, too easy to fuck up in deadly ways to avoid doing a quick sanity check.

Boy, that escalated quickly… I was LMAO

Or, worse... "actually that one IS yours.."

😂 man that went from 0 to 💯 quick fast and in a hurry 😂😂

Oh man I have been in those shoes. We've all been frustrated and dragged through the mud and no one likes to be hit when their down. Live, learn and move on I say :)

Next thing you find out your not the father. All because you couldn’t get the rotors off lol

Yep and they also have left-handed lugnuts too lol

Let me guess, those 5 star hubcaps on the Aerostar minivan....

@@kiwiingenuity1677 the old Chrysler products were notorious for left hand lugs on the left side, I think it was, anyway on one side, every young guy changing tires in the service station found out the hard way. Lol 😂

Yes, old mopars had opposite threading lugs on the driver's side

@@donjohnson9688 yes, i have an old dodge van solid front axle under a car dolly, it took me 2 lug studs to figure it out, lol, it now has all right hand threads, lol

Shur while yer in there looking at it..might as well!

Wow. Just wow.

That's one of those sick to your stomach feelings

@@chrisburrell8489 I'll forever remember that *CLACK* of the cam snapping free. I rapidly became capable from that point on. That was one of many "sink or swim" moments that taught me so much

This was my first guess

Oh yes. Two different Crown Vics, years apart, same mistake. At least I figured it out faster the second time.

Awe lol. That sux. Funny AF but sux. That had to be the fight to end all fights.

I mean how are you supposed to figure out how to get it apart if you can't see it apart? Right? On a more civil note many times I will look at the new part if I have it to see how it comes out, or better yet go to pick n pull and practice on one of their cars lol.

was replacing rear hard lines on my astro...went to bleed and forgot to put drum back on....BANG there goes the wheel cylinder exploded..not a good day lol

Hot tip!

I leave the drain pain there until I am happy it's empty enough. When it's time to remove the pan, reinstall the bolt and washer.

And make sure the rubber seal comes off with the filter. Did that once on my sisters car in dads shop. I knew better but had a brain fart. Started to check for leaks and sure enough I had a gusher. Changed oil lots in the next 30 years and always double checked that one. Until one time on my own truck, did it again, lol maybe I can go another 30 years if I make it that long.

Oh yes I've done that once before LOL but look at the bright side you flushed all the bad oil out that way LOL

@@kubotaman85 exactly.

Just like real life!

@@flagmichael if it happens to you; it's strong evidence that you've made some pretty terrible decisions

Yup, he didn't trust shops, now he probably does.

yup, he might be alive now because you fixed his brakes. customer for life.

LMAO Fantastic.

I was going to do the same with my 85 ram but had a hunch it was sucking air in at the pump. Replaced the pump and fixed all the issues! I was worried about making a fuel rocket like you did lmao

lmao.. i have had that phone call from 6 people doing thier brakes.. 1 got me a mug that says " i can fix dumb" lmao

Or drum! Yep did that!

@@andrewcz8871 Live and learn. He'll know better next time.

What else could he do ?

@@ghostspectre1861 Cars don't have a next time in New York 🤣

benny hill. good nite mother of 10, goodnite father of 7............

@@phantomwalker8251 haha!

Yeah that was my favorite quote of the day 😂😂😂

He was channeling the pent-up rage and frustration of a thousand home mechanics!

I’m sure those sloppy new pads did too 😂

Those aren't hammer marks, they are the new high performance brake cooling channels!!!

I would have expected those on the back side of the rotor 😀

He was ring testing it for cracks.

Dude, I've made this exact mistake before. Beat on that rotor until my arm turned to jelly. My grandpa walked by, looked at it for a second, and said "you know that would be a lot easier if you took the screw out, right?" I felt like such an idiot. He had a good laugh at my expense, and I've never made that same mistake again. I miss that old man. Lol

Was that a needle scaler? I need what that was.

@@michaelvangundy226 nah, just an impact hammer. But even a regular hammer will do in a pinch - you're just trying to vibrate and shake it up so the rust will release the threads. A needle scaler doesn't really have the force of impact to be all that effective. But if you don't have an air supply handy, a simple impact driver and hammer is also a good go-to tool combo. :-)

I used that much when doing the rear rotors on my '06 Ford F-150

Where is a lot of that antiseize going when the heat and rpms go up?

@@doncruzen6246 flung onto the pads and rotors lol.

I fixed one of those for a customer who had work done at another shop. Must've been a new mechanic I guess.

Oh snap, I just remembered I put the pads on backwards not once, bit twice. I did it on the front of a BMW (only one side tho). Moved it back and forth in the driveway and heard that grinding like "wtf is that?" Pulled the wheel back off and BAM! pads on backwards. Whoops! Did the same thing on the rear of a Mercedes (again only one side) heard a horrible sound and thought "those rotors must be worse than I thought." Got new rotors and pulled the wheel off and BAM! Pads on backwards. Whoopsie!

been there, done that...those old dodges had the same shape of the front pads and they would fit either way...BUT it's only a F- up if it leaves the shop and the customer takes it...my saying

@@HollywoodHornet yep I did the same thing on my Mazda last year, reversed one pad luckily I realized it before it could do any damage. In my defense I was up to my sixth beer by then

Did something similar. Buddy of mine burned a cat by inverting 2 coils on a ford escape.

@@okkrom I and another person put in a clutch plate backwards once, after we started it up and car wouldn't move - we were asked 'did you put the clutch plate in correctly' we looked at each other, dismantled it all and sure enough it had front this way on the damn thing - and we never noticed.

@@wonniewarrior At least you had one where you could look at it and tell which way it goes. It can be tough.

@@InsideOfMyOwnMind I am trying to decide if it a backhanded compliment or a subtle dig. Is there instructions for me to figuire it out ?

@@wonniewarrior Just that some clutch disks can be kind of ambiguous if you're not super observant taking it apart and hopefully the old one is not blown up beyond recognition. So empathy more than anything else.

I told my boss for years, ofcourse you don't make any mistakes, you don't actually do anything. He didn't see the humor in it

Same happens when you watch enough small time news stations that hire college students, they flub their lines alot, and keep going. They re-say the correct word or just skip it entirely.

Not sitting on the seat (operator present switch) like the neighbor

@@Dirtyharry70585 Done that too. Mower blades installed upside down is another fave. LOL My father in law changed the oil in his work van and forgot the oil plug, that was a new engine that day.

Same here, dumping a gallon of interior house paint on my nice carpet for a start.

Noticed the other side didn't have any hammer marks and that was the hard side. Air hammers on the other hand are worth their weight in gold.

Being a grown up means you stop before you get to that point. I have zero tolerance working with people who can't control themselves.

@@maplebones you gotta use a hammer to get them off sometimes

I'd like him to not tell the guy and then have the guy watch this video a d record his reaction... Lmao

Well that makes me feel not so bad cuz I've done some pretty silly things myself in the past I hope that guy doesn't feel too bad sometimes it's just easy to miss something simple. Maybe if you're tired or not thinking well that day or distracted I can turn into a really bad day

@@bustanut3888 even better

I heard thats actually good for it. The bearings get thirsty, teaches them to behave (a little tough love). Thanks for sharing. 🤓

@@mrguymandude1096 Oh, yeah! I knew that! That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

The oil cap goes next to the bottles of new oil, that's how you remember to put the oil back in.

@@RayleighCriterion good tip. We all get side tracked sometimes and make stupid mistakes.

More often than that someone fills the new oil without replacing drain plug.

yup.

Looking at the amount of rust already on this truck that will be about 6 months from now. Seriously, that is a 2012? Good Lord, that is crusty.

Respect to Eric certain other RU-vid mechanics would call their customer a dumbass.

It's good shit. But man it ain't cheap for a small can of grease 😅

@@bmir89 hey you ain't kidding brother, I buy it in a bulk pack, but for a home gamer or a neighborhood mechanic Amazon has an alright price. I haven't found anything that works better or holds up better to the brutal seasons we have here in Wisconsin yet though.

I just bought a bottle of their green brake lube. I find purple swells some slider condoms. Anyone know how well the green works?

@@mikeburton1733 not sure on the green stuff, the purple had thoes issues and that's why they went to the orange, it is still ceramic but it is silicone based so it doesn't swell the brake rubber

Hate the purple. Got burned many times with "seized" calipers only to finally figure out the purple goo was causing the rubber pin bushings/seals swell and the caliper to jam. My old chevy cobalt taught me this when one of the pins has a groove cut in it for wide square ring and the swelling was obvious. Purple was also advertised to not harm rubber so they have lost my trust. I buy OEM ford lube now for all my cars and have not had any problems.