Cut benefits to get jobless back to work? Feat. Wilfred & Paula Rhone-Adrien | Jeremy Vine 

Do we ?

The best incentive to work is to provide for yourself and your family, what better incentive than that FGS. Why on earth do you think so many eastern Europeans have come over to the UK in the last 15 years ? Why do you think a hundred thousand people have risked their lives on a rubber dinghy to get to the UK if we are such a poor paying country ? No, the only incentive is within you, better known as 'pride' something the lazy brigade are extremely short of !

Absolutely...fact we are a very low wage economy and the most financially inequitable country in Europe

@@johnosgraveyardjaunts2235 Where do you get your so called facts from ? When you answered that, tell me, why did 1.2 million enter Britain last year to work in a low wage economy ? Not to mention 100k illegals risking their lives in fragile boats to come to the lowest paid economy ! I'm intrigued lol. The strange thing is they travelled through many more higher paid economies to get here (according to you) yet risk everything to come here !

@@gigabyte2573 Yes that's what puzzles me when someone claims this, why would anyone risk life and limb on a rubber boat to be paid the least in Europe ? Can't wait for the answer to that one LOL.

Basic wage not good enough and state wants you on benefits to have hold on you.control you is the game plus uk works excessive hours compared to eu for below worthy pay

@@joprocter4573 ever head of a rhetorical question

It tells me that people choose to have children they can't afford. Why, what does it tell you?

@@philyewin4880 hence the massive falling birth rates. you only get money for 2 kids anyway. try talking out your mouth and not your arse eh?

@@philyewin4880 And the majority of people working without kids? Just too lazy, expecting to be able to sleep between shifts instead of getting another job?

Or cut universal credit which will force people to live within their means and not have children and lifestyles their income can't support.

Aka starvation

@@philyewin4880 Indeed, rent and food, luxuries poor working people shouldn't feel so entitled to.

@@keithpanton7486 Where should the money come from to pay for these so called luxuries you feel entitled to?

@@philyewin4880 You.

Full of reality !

He's created a successful business that employs people. How many people do you employ?

@@philyewin4880 Yep, keyboard warriors think they have all the answers, hitting them with facts and reality only leads to them saying ' I bet you're a Daily Mail reader' they can't stand facts getting in the way of their narrative 😂

He's an employer who knows the truth about sherkers. That Paula women in a socialist who interprets figures to suit her demented lefty socialist views😵‍💫. Wilfred stands no chance against lefty socialists vine and Paula person.

All of the panel are full of b's

Quite the opposite !

@@gigabyte2573 He expects someone who is ill to give him notice at work. How many people get notice that they are about to be ill so they have to call in sick? He is a typical employer and does not see his employees as human beings. Sickness happens, it’s a part of being a human. Humans also get diseases that turn out to be chronic that they didn’t know was going to go on for months and months.

@@jujutrini8412 That's not possible if it's an emergency of course not lol, he's not talking about that scenario though, he's referring to having problems with certain members of staff on a regular basis, I've worked with people like that, always phoning in ill, when in fact they they fancy a day off, been there got the T-shirt, but on the other hand someone can fall genuinely ill, which is fine, but if someone keeps doing this regularly you soon begin to sort out who's genuine and who's not ! If you think that 100% of people claiming benefits are genuine then I'm afraid you've a big shock awaiting you ! It's better known as 'Swinging the lead' for example, my local garage has a young lad around 18 years old working for them, he often calls in saying he's 'unwell' when actually he's been on the p iss, then he genuinely had appendicitis, he had his operation, and instead of taking a couple of weeks off to recover, no, he said he needed TWO months off, which added to his previous record of skipping work adds up to a skiver, how do we know this ? because a young person gets over a small operation like that in no time, the average being around two/three weeks, you'd be surprised to learn he no longer has a job there, more fool him.

@@jujutrini8412 - Well said!

Betting is a mugs game !

I bet In the real world he can only afford to pay what the market allows

@@philyewin4880 So he's supported by the welfare system he claims to hate then.

@@gigabyte2573 Can we tell the banking and finance industry? Seems whenever they lose, we bail them out, when they win, we get poorer.

Work does pay. People just choose lifestyles they can't afford and the expect the rest of us to subsidise it.

People can earn up to 60,000 and still claim for their kids while others who earn a fraction of that can claim nothing because only parents get their taxes back

@@philyewin4880 So as a disabled veteran with both physical and mental disabilities, am I choosing this lifestyle?

So no need to import so many foreigners then ! Which in turn would mean reduced rental costs, and house prices would fall, in turn would mean higher wages, free up school places, less pressure on the NHS, wow, good idea mate !

All factory's. Metal. Coal.products closed.tills rarely human service.ppl begging for 4day week.every foreign family walking around with 3plus kids.benefits.housing at grand plus a piece

User you English can sell drugs to the English population and get them hooked on heroine like you have been doing us Scottish for the last 45 years

And where those jobs are? If you live in the country side and you have to travel 4 hours a day just to get to your workplace it’s not worth the hassle.

@@Frederique41 why 4 hours ? I live in the countryside just 3 miles from a town, the city of Leicester is only 1 hour away, the city of Peterborough is 40 minutes away, Where do you get this idea people would have to travel 4 hours each day ?

lots of them pay no tax at all.

Close the loopholes!

the chancellor pays around 1% on his multi million £ income. many super rich pay nothing at all.

@@kanedNunable You stated,..the chancellor pays around 1% on hi... income. In a FAIR Society,...We should also be able to pay 1%, ..not 33% of our Incomes.

​@@DivineLove247So you'd just completely do away with all public spending then? Schools, Hospitals, infrastructure building, waste disposal, national defense etc etc.... all gone?

@@benghiskahn3673 Try reading the thread again , I stated,...We want to see Tax INCREASE on the Rich companies to fund Tax Cuts on the struggling Workers, Tax Increase on the RICH would help pay for the Schools, Hospitals, infrastructure building, waste disposal, national defence etc etc.

As Gary Economics said, "The game is rigged ".

Society is only ever three meals away from revolution, someone smarter than me once said.

Who's he talking about? Well the woman who phoned in saying she gets £2800 a month for a start...

@@ross8156can you verify that what she says is true 🤫

My neighbor (single mum of 2) gets £2,300 per month universal credit, plus her child benefit

@@kevinsyd2012 I don't know about families but a single adult with no dependents is getting a standard allowance of circa £300. Has she told you herself she gets that much? And do her kids have special needs at all?

@@keifer7813 Yes, I accompanied her to her interview when she was told. I have also seen her bank statement. Children are normal teenagers with no special needs

no cut benefits. Get off your arse and work.

​@keirmitchell5560 For a proper living wage people will do. Otherwise we subsidise the companies effectively giving them benefits.

​@@keirmitchell5560as what, a farmed internet troll?

My ex is on the living wage, and gets on just fine ! But then she doesn't piss it away in the pub, or smoke herself to death, and cooks her meals herself, not relying on takeaways which cost a fortune !

@@gigabyte2573 What a life... Why do the British never want any better for themselves?

Reform Party says raise it to £20k !

Don’t tell me you’re voting Reform?

@@syriacchristianity9007 If you want more cash in your pocket who else ? duuhhhh

@@gigabyte2573 Exactly, sounds to me some people want even more tax stopped from their income ! If so vote Liebour !

I don’t want more money in my pocket, I want everyone in the world fed and watered and clothed. Tice likes to stoke culture wars, so that he just walk off with the swag.

im calling bullshit on that.

@@kanedNunable It's true. Average PIP (Personal Independent payment) is the lowest award of the Mobility Component, which is currently £28.50 a week. Average ESA (Employment and Support Allowance) is £90.50 per week for the people who are expected to look for work. And £138.20 for vulnerable people in the support group who aren't expected to look for work. Add up the highest award there. £138.20 + £28.50 a week is £666.80 per month. £666.80 x 12 is £8001.60. So roughly £8k per year. The lowest award is even lower than that. The reason this is what most people get it because most claimants are actually living at home with family so don't qualify to have rent paid or anything. Look it all up for yourself it's not hard. 🤷‍♀️

​​​@@kanedNunableWell to start with that woman who claims she gets 35k a year is outright lying as the benefit cap is 25k a year. And pay close attention to her story, the time frames don't add up. So that caller was a liar or a plant.

@@kanedNunable Look it up for yourself it's not hard. It's around the same as the state pension. The state pension is also classed as a benefit. In fact almost half of welfare spending is spent on the state pension.

There is no way anyone is getting £84000 a year in benefits.

It could happen depending on circs, and no doubt little Tyler and sapphire have adhd so will get dla and disability elements in uc

@@PT-po3de No it couldn't. The benefit cap is set at 25k a year.

​@alfsmith4936 there's no cap if someone gets dla or pip, or works 16 hours a week at minimum wage or has lcwra element on uc. Many many families will get tens of thousands

Well said 👍

Will do!

Totally agree ❤

Maybe giv them money so they can afford to go for an interview

i see more spongers in the tory party.

Start a company and employ them then.

Why don't you do it, if it's that good? You would be stupid not to..

Minimum wage should be doubled.

@@syriacchristianity9007 doing that instantly would be detrimental but moving in that direction by increasing the initial tax allowance and increasing minimum wage more often and at a higher percentage rate until the gap between benefits and wages grew to a sensible level is definatley the way to go. Nobody should be receiving more in benefits than somebody who works for a living earns.

U are talking bollocks we have not become poor at all so stop blaming it on Bexit we still have all the laws when we were in the EU , STOP Scaremongering and everybody knows there’s a lot of people on benefits WHICH Choose not to work & they I think they don’t have to work for their benefits which they should be made to do .

@@michaelwrench7577 Brexit has meant, MORE CHECKS on Goods, MORE Taxes on Goods. LESS Investment from Europe. European Investors moving out of Britain,...all this combined has made UK a poorer Economy, that it needs CHEAP Labour to remain competitive, Solution, Stop Peoples Benefits,...to starve them into work.

If self service machines use more ozone and electric WHY HAS NO ONE CONSIDERED HOW MANY PPL BECOME UNEMPLOYED DUE TO SHOP INSTALLATION PAYG MACHINES

😊​@@michaelwrench7577

Tim's the nice and talented one, that's Jeremy :)

You’re right!

wow a tenner a day eh? and at least half of that will be spent on energy bills.

Tories and the rich love to pretend everyone can work, but refuse to accept most employers don't want anyone they might have to make some minor adjustments to hire, or someone who might cost them a little bit of investment. Much easier to just keep pushing the bullshit that everyone's lazy.

Or the government have sent everyone mental..

We gave away our manufacturing industries. Part time jobs are being pushed to create as many jobs as possible regardless of the impact to people standards of living earning part time money. Where are these jobs that could employ millions of new workers?

@@ricardosmythe2548 So who's doing the jobs those layabouts did ?

@@gigabyte2573 The employees of Chinese manufacturing companies? The employees of Indian call centres? Its the greed of the people at the top that has created this abhorrent mess not Maureen from the council estate who has just enough to scrape by.

@@ricardosmythe2548 So who's doing those jobs that the layabouts did ?

@@ricardosmythe2548 There are 112,000 vacancies in the NHS alone, and around 910,000 vacancies across the UK, remember that figure of 2.8 million includes partners and children, so, that total figure is a little misleading !

do you have a breakdown of what benefits they get that adds up to 25k a year ?

@@jondoe5532 here we go: Im referring to a couple here btw. Their own UC is about £600 a month. One receives a PIP of about £470 (for something i cannot see) They have 2 children both of which get attendance allowance equal to another 600 a month. Add to that child allowance of another £150 They live in a 3 bedroom house which the council charges £590 a month and they receive 80% housing benefit. Why would you ever want to work? I think one person would need a salary of over £30k to take home the same amount. And note: i know them. Except for one of the children, there is nothing wrong with them. Both lazy so and so’s who smoke all day long, and laughably moan constantly of being bored.

Oh, and i havnt even added the laughable cost of living payments they seem to receive every 3 months.

@@galaxianx01 I see, i didn't know about attendance allowance. It seems that there are the few who are playing the system for everything they can get and spoiling the system for the people who need it.

How will it enable more crime? 🤔

Are you stupid? No money means resorting to crime to get by​@@jamiepr1991

@@jamiepr1991 less money for the poor means they have to turn to crime. Living in the real world will help before you reply.

@@bigpants6121 Rubbish, I was very poor when I was growing up, but never used it as an excuse to commit crime !

​@@gigabyte2573You were poor but you had parents feeding you right? Point is, when people have nobody to rely on and no food, they will either steal or starve. Getting a job is not as easy as they make it. It takes time

Learn English before you start judging

@@JB-wy8fc what you on about dope.

The English no so good😢