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Ulises Palacios
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Inside the Alliance/Copeland ZP scroll compressor. There's several variations and some differ a bit.

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@erikcharlesrooney6241
@erikcharlesrooney6241 3 года назад
That's great that you did this. Even people who "know" what the scroll is can learn about them. Thank you,
@godbwithme7586
@godbwithme7586 10 месяцев назад
This is the best video I have seen on Scroll Compressors and I am not even 8 minutes into it silently.
@mrperez4493
@mrperez4493 4 года назад
This is exactly what I wanted to see, thank you.. it's hard finding video like this show the inner workings of a compressor
@actechformallyyomama746
@actechformallyyomama746 5 лет назад
They had scroll technology around 60 years ago. They had a seal between the scroll and it routinely failed. The machining process gets the tolerance much lower now so the gasket is no longer needed. I’ve seen the cut outs of these scrolls but never seen a running cut out. This was very cool thanks for the video.
@jamesv4463
@jamesv4463 5 лет назад
I would like to know how they don't cold weld. It's hiding a secret. In the factorys you cant even take a phone Into where they make the scrolls
@aryanarya8741
@aryanarya8741 3 года назад
@@jamesv4463 the scrolls are covered in oil. The oil acts as a seal that covers the microgaps and prevents the air from leaking. It also covers the surface of the scrolls and prevents them from getting cold welded together.
@jamesv4463
@jamesv4463 3 года назад
@@aryanarya8741 from my understating the metal was actually making the seal, hints why this kind of compressor can actually improve over time. it wears into eachother
@aryanarya8741
@aryanarya8741 3 года назад
@@jamesv4463 it is impossible for a machine like this to run without oil in my opinion. the cold welds will increase the friction so much and will destroy the seal. no matter how perfect the seal is there is oil involved that protects the surface
@justinavery4047
@justinavery4047 5 лет назад
Thank you So MUCH for this video. For years I have wonder how a piston compressor could fit my window AC unit!!! Now I understand.. It never was one!!!
@deltaxmotivation4348
@deltaxmotivation4348 4 года назад
Running cut out is amazing!!.. Thank you so much
@dizziedallas
@dizziedallas 7 лет назад
That is a fantastic video! You are right there are three bearing, drive bearing, middle is the straddie bearing and the lower bearing.The lower bearing live in the oil so it does see as much wear.The straddie bearing take a ton of abuse especially on liquid flood back.I don't see that much wear on the upper bearing when I take them apart. Five Star video!
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
dizziedallas thanks man. I appreciate it.
@danl4222
@danl4222 5 лет назад
Yes a fantastic video. BTW my COM07359 5ton has a one way high side valve so there is no liquid blow back.
@eriknunez8757
@eriknunez8757 4 года назад
Wow. Great feedback @dizziedallas . I worked on a unit today that had a scroll that was vibrating terribly. My guess is the compressor had liquid flood back recently since there were no pressure switches installed and the system leaked out all the refrigerant. I found the compressor off on internal thermal overload
@dannyg751
@dannyg751 3 года назад
Very cool!!! You have no idea how cool an important and the amount I learned from this!! Thanks!!
@scrambler350
@scrambler350 7 лет назад
Best teardown I've seen, thanks for uploading, man!
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
mike_HVAC thanks man.
@divinedevotion9372
@divinedevotion9372 4 года назад
@@UlisesPalacios please make a video how to make ? motorbike pump in using air conditioner compressor.
@gerildosilva1376
@gerildosilva1376 5 лет назад
Parabéns melhor vídeo já feito! Graças a ele consegui entender o funcionamento do sistema!
@SaenzFonsi
@SaenzFonsi 2 года назад
Ii have to thank you for your efforts, you knew how to research and figure out how to demonstrate for yourself and others how it works.
@santiais2008
@santiais2008 7 лет назад
Very good illustrative video !
@werquantum
@werquantum 3 года назад
Super cool. Thanks for taking the time.
@sman5877
@sman5877 4 года назад
Great educational video.Thanks for making it.
@pincheburro956
@pincheburro956 6 лет назад
This is a great video. Thanks for sharing
@eldonjohansen7127
@eldonjohansen7127 4 года назад
one of the failure modes for these compressors is the bottom bearing which is held in by 2 to 4 cap screws. the screws can loosen up and the bottom bearing will knock around,
@marcrhodes3382
@marcrhodes3382 Год назад
Awesome! Great piece of technology. I was so curious now I understand.
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl 3 года назад
Good ilustration-SUBSCRIBED
@555technoboy
@555technoboy 5 лет назад
I used to work at the factory that made that little plastic tube that you see attached to the side of the fixed scroll. Perhaps an older unit. The ones we made were of black plastic instead of white.
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 5 лет назад
Sparky Arcblast that’s cool. I’m guessing that’s for oil. To drain back into the crankcase
@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
Very cool! Thanks for sharing!
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
Fox Family Heating and Air Conditioning thanks Greg.
@thestudio4583
@thestudio4583 2 года назад
Very good I was waiting to see it.THANKS
@bearb1asting
@bearb1asting 3 года назад
THATS HOW THIS WORKS!? I NEVER KNEW. WHAAAAAT!?!? THANK YOU!!!!
@giovanni4151
@giovanni4151 5 лет назад
fantastic video
@Hvacexpress
@Hvacexpress 2 года назад
Excellent presentation....
@hamidrezadehghan2214
@hamidrezadehghan2214 3 года назад
Thank you for this video.very very amazing.
@Slesar.
@Slesar. 3 года назад
Это пожалуй лучшее видео об устройстве спирального компрессора.
@HughesManHVAC
@HughesManHVAC 3 года назад
awesome video!
@phuctong5300
@phuctong5300 5 лет назад
Thank you for this video.
@anicetast.2905
@anicetast.2905 Год назад
Thank you. Great presentation.
@Dav_Eva
@Dav_Eva 5 лет назад
VERY GOOD CONTENT! BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT COMPRESSOR HOW ITS WORKS ? THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEO
@cooldown8175
@cooldown8175 6 лет назад
Wow that is awesome! So not safe but that was great. Nice video dude
@jasonaguilar4929
@jasonaguilar4929 5 лет назад
Cool video 🤘🏾🤘🏾
@hasibursk5504
@hasibursk5504 5 лет назад
Very good video to know about scroll compressor but safety is the first
@smokeysmith1282
@smokeysmith1282 Год назад
Pretty sure you’ve been taking things apart since about the age of three 😂. Extremely impressed with your lab work. Sounds like a Ford model t Peace
@joecaca4136
@joecaca4136 Год назад
Nice little VFD
@uncontrollabledogs3791
@uncontrollabledogs3791 4 года назад
Nice video. Nice vfd also.
@seshachary5580
@seshachary5580 4 месяца назад
very educative. Thank you
@tommyt5815
@tommyt5815 4 года назад
Very cool video
@VenturiLife
@VenturiLife 3 года назад
That is cool. Eccentric oscillation.
@jhhvacplumbing1944
@jhhvacplumbing1944 7 лет назад
a little Madd scientist action , that was neat
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
JH HVAC & Plumbing thanks man
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
JH HVAC & Plumbing thanks buddy
@NorCal-refrigeration
@NorCal-refrigeration 7 лет назад
Excellent tear down. 👍👍
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
Nor-Cal Refrigeration & H.V.A.C thanks man
@charliemayne2981
@charliemayne2981 5 лет назад
hey smurf boner's dad!
@muraleedharanpaloran1712
@muraleedharanpaloran1712 3 года назад
Great effort. Nice to see what happens inside a scroll compressor. How to remove water mixed in oil incase submerged evaporater develop a leak?
@LEDRavecom
@LEDRavecom 3 месяца назад
This is cool! Thanks!
@derrickenbuenosaires
@derrickenbuenosaires 3 года назад
Hey Ulises I'm a little late on the vid lol I have a ZR125KC scroll that I want to tear open and see what's going on on the inside. What VFD do you recommend for that compressor ? We use 220V out here and 380V 3 phase. Just not sure what capacity I should use. It'll just be dry testing the motor like you reviewed here
@paulocarbobiak615
@paulocarbobiak615 5 лет назад
Parabéns, muito bom
@fairbornCCF
@fairbornCCF 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. Did you find anything broken when you took it apart?
@scooterbikeslead9005
@scooterbikeslead9005 5 лет назад
What kind of amp draw is the compressor running with no load?
@ishakakcuru6739
@ishakakcuru6739 Год назад
Congratulations for you
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 7 лет назад
the small hole in the top of shaft is the "centering hole" for machining.
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
throttle bottle yeah. I figured it was for something like that.
@khantanzim75
@khantanzim75 4 года назад
Good one
@abhishekkumar5890
@abhishekkumar5890 5 лет назад
Informative
@ADP_Artisto
@ADP_Artisto 4 года назад
I love VRV variable Refrigerant volume system that's why I love and like liked this video and I am HVAC technician so i loved the AC video but this one is really ossooom...✌️
@charlienuwanda867
@charlienuwanda867 5 лет назад
may be it is medium scroll type 1 , i 'm not sure but i think the motor lower bearing is in contact with the lubricants ..
@jonnymac31
@jonnymac31 7 лет назад
#500!!!!
@rcinfla9017
@rcinfla9017 2 года назад
I assume that is a three phase motor with variable speed drive.
@jakegeissler2228
@jakegeissler2228 2 года назад
Great video! What Model VFD controller are you using?
@HensonAirRepair
@HensonAirRepair Год назад
I'd love to know that as well.
@ameenmakramey1274
@ameenmakramey1274 2 месяца назад
Professor Al-Aziziyah, the reasons for the weariness of the mechanical part
@IContext
@IContext 3 года назад
Won't the vacuum side go low before the pressure side as it wears out?
@jjxie3291
@jjxie3291 2 года назад
cool,The video at the beginning shocked me。
@gropape3106
@gropape3106 2 года назад
this is great
@ambersmith6517
@ambersmith6517 2 года назад
very good
@johndelong5574
@johndelong5574 3 года назад
Can you run compressed air thru the outlet and make a three phase alternator or is there a check valve to prevent this?
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 3 года назад
There’s a discharge check valve to prevent reverse rotation. Scrolls only run in one direction
@josimuddin7376
@josimuddin7376 2 года назад
tnks for you
@SirDella
@SirDella 3 года назад
Did you take this from a portable ac? If yes, which one?
@qaywsxedc741852963
@qaywsxedc741852963 2 года назад
Did you try minimum freq and RPM, when the compressor starts to lubricate itself properly please? (Oil pump start pumping oil)
@KarlAlfredRoemer
@KarlAlfredRoemer 6 лет назад
How comes the lubrication oil come from the bottom of that thing to the scroll compressor in the top?
@actechformallyyomama746
@actechformallyyomama746 5 лет назад
Karl-Alfred Römer their are ports for oil to run through the entire compressor to lubricate the moving parts. Oil runs through the entire refrigerant circuit.
@thomasday2351
@thomasday2351 4 года назад
Is That From Trane Central Air Conditioners?
@vijaydandiga
@vijaydandiga 3 года назад
which VFD are you using?
@polishtheturdmickelson5473
@polishtheturdmickelson5473 7 лет назад
That was cool Ulises. Did you put baseball cards in your bicycle wheels growing up?, ha ha.
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
polishtheturd mickelson lol 😂 thanks
@polishtheturdmickelson5473
@polishtheturdmickelson5473 7 лет назад
That was a cool video. Good stuff. Have a good week at work, Don't let them work you too hard, lol.
@emmanuelebro58
@emmanuelebro58 5 лет назад
Can this compressor be fixed once burnt? just asking
@baz159
@baz159 2 года назад
Will scroll compressor get damaged if it's made to run in reverse?
@tigerz4487
@tigerz4487 5 лет назад
THANKSSSSSSSSSS
@IContext
@IContext 3 года назад
If it runs dry do to a leak will it recover original level of vacuum?
@Nostalgie1
@Nostalgie1 2 года назад
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@guillaumeg3323
@guillaumeg3323 Год назад
is the noise at 1:34 "like a moped" is normal ? My heating pump is doing same noise, I've had a pac for a few years, and I find it surprising that it makes this noise.
@joeshearer1247
@joeshearer1247 7 лет назад
That's cool sounds like a lawn mower engine. Did you have it on a vfd
@joeshearer1247
@joeshearer1247 7 лет назад
Best autopsy yet you can see how it oils that top bearing and everything!
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
Joe Shearer lol yeah I did. That vfd goes up to like 500 htz. I was scared to take it up to 100 htz. Almost double the rpms. I have another compressor. I might try to take it to 200 lol.
@joeshearer1247
@joeshearer1247 7 лет назад
Ulises Palacios you thinkin about a scroll mod to that Honda ?
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
Joe Shearer lol 😂 they now have an all electric dirt bike. Alta 15 grand.
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 7 лет назад
Joe Shearer yeah. That's what I wanted to see
@troy3456789
@troy3456789 11 месяцев назад
Variable DC power supply for this experiment?
@SandeepVShaji
@SandeepVShaji 3 года назад
👍👍👍
@whatthefunction9140
@whatthefunction9140 4 года назад
looking for a scroll compressor without a built in motor.
@Guyhakverdi
@Guyhakverdi 4 года назад
Did you have VFD controller here? What kind of motor controller setup did you use? Was this seized due to floodback ?
@laurinpestes5569
@laurinpestes5569 4 года назад
Farther down Joe Shearer prompted the original poster's reply: "Joe Shearer lol yeah I did. That vfd goes up to like 500 htz. I was scared to take it up to 100 htz. Almost double the rpms. I have another compressor. I might try to take it to 200 lol."
@unclejoeoakland
@unclejoeoakland 4 года назад
Could one of these be used to compress air for tools?
@YoooitsSCARS
@YoooitsSCARS 3 года назад
These are used in air conditioners
@thivotrong
@thivotrong 4 года назад
is it oilfree ?
@ImportWade
@ImportWade 6 лет назад
Typically, what sizes of external torx do you come across when tearing this compressors apart?
@actechformallyyomama746
@actechformallyyomama746 5 лет назад
Der Werkzeug König there are many different compressor. Different torque ratings for every bolt. Some are over 150lbs to as low as 4lbs.
@jing-chingchen2333
@jing-chingchen2333 Год назад
what is the TORX screw size??? M7?
@saraweshwaranbashkaran4499
@saraweshwaranbashkaran4499 5 лет назад
Compressor oil will mix with refrigerant gas?
@actechformallyyomama746
@actechformallyyomama746 5 лет назад
SARAWESHWARAN BASHKARAN it will blend with the liquid refrigerant. The purpose of a crank case heater is to keep the oil warm so they don’t blend.
@CallsignMayhem
@CallsignMayhem 4 года назад
@@actechformallyyomama746 crankcase heater is for refrigerant migration.
@actechformallyyomama746
@actechformallyyomama746 4 года назад
Really where is it migrating to?
@CallsignMayhem
@CallsignMayhem 4 года назад
@@actechformallyyomama746 the coldest part of the system. That's why you have a crankcase heater is to keep the compressor warm and avoid flooded starts. Sorry and I meant refrigerant migration not oil migration.
@JazweenA221
@JazweenA221 2 года назад
Is this inverter?
@ILiveInAVanDownByTheRiver
@ILiveInAVanDownByTheRiver Месяц назад
Sounds just like a lawn mower engine.
@midhuabu7805
@midhuabu7805 5 лет назад
Compreesor not working power ok terminal ok whatis the reson
@LongTrout
@LongTrout 2 года назад
why would there be equalized pressure on a scroll brand new?
@UlisesPalacios
@UlisesPalacios 2 года назад
Unlike reciprocating compressor. On scrolls the pressures equalize in the compressor when it’s off
@LongTrout
@LongTrout 2 года назад
@@UlisesPalacios I realize that and thankyou...How bout when it is running.
@IContext
@IContext 3 года назад
As it ages and the system has leaked down a few times it won't build sufficient vacuum and the evap coil floods
@gpowerdragon9852
@gpowerdragon9852 3 года назад
If it's working you can turn it into an air compressor if you have a welder and you fixed it 🤔
@carloisdoingstupidtechstuff
0:21 and 0:29 Was that the oil??
@ananth218Canada
@ananth218Canada 4 года назад
asmr
@eric4467
@eric4467 7 лет назад
Cool beans man! Don't put you eye running that thing.
@panamadepot367
@panamadepot367 2 года назад
Buenas tardes Ulises. Por favor me brinda un correo para hacer una consulta.
@tedhicks5431
@tedhicks5431 Год назад
That's neet
@Samthe17
@Samthe17 3 года назад
10:27 6.0 Powerstroke 😂
@midhuabu7805
@midhuabu7805 5 лет назад
Compresor over heating
@Kamen_trader-n5p
@Kamen_trader-n5p 5 лет назад
Great master Subscribe
@rsz90182
@rsz90182 3 года назад
Those things cost 1200 dollars.
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