In this episode we go through all the steps to fitting a gable end cut roof with a steel ridge beam. I am also using the new ultimate roofing square from Essential Carpentry Tools
Got to ‘ our kid ‘ as a retired slater & tiler I wish i’d have followed joiners like you and your dad on many occasions ) with great attention to detail ( especially the positioning of the trimmers for the veluxes!!! ) and the squareness of the the roof structure!!! The number of jobs I went to and got “ Oh, can't you get over this and get over that “ !!!! It was a pleasure to watch a bit of old school work, the best of course. Thank you.
Dan Cox is a legend when he gets on his roofs and his square is very popular amongst carpenters on RU-vid. You hade a complicated detail trying to work those work those roof windows into the roof, but you got there in the end. Keep up the good work and hope to see you guys soon on your big project.
You are by far my favourite building channel…. Everything is explained so well. Please can you do another video showing how you then tile this gable roof x
Last rood we did lime this we used a 9" x 3" timber and not steel, steel is just iver the top on my eyes, talking of steel, that side limtel looked a bit ropey, i know its not your work buddy but surely red oxide should have been used. That rust looks well set in. Your work is brill though mate
Great video Rich, I wish I could have worked with my dad, he was a chippy too. I would have learned so much. Glad that you’ve had the opportunity to work with yours, he seems a good bloke. 👍🏼😊
Lovely job Rich and I’m glad you got your head around the square. Just a little tip those tech screws are for steel up to 3mm, they do make them for 12mm and 25mm and it was also good seeing you use a drill driver and not a impact driver on them.
Cheers mate it’s a great square and looking forward to using it again. From what I remember those tek screws were for up to 12mm but nevertheless worked a treat. Didn’t want to risk trying to put them in with out a pilot hole and yes mate definitely not for use with an impact. 👍🏻
Building inspector into bondage. I went to do a loft conversion and was told to use steel. I decided to ask a nother joiner to help me. Building inspector came round to make sure we were doing the work right. The helper said I don't work with steel and he said OK use wood but I wanted to use wood no you can't. Thay new each other . One rule for me and another for him . Wood was used and signed off.
I’ve done many loft conversions using laminated timbers glued and bolted on site and never been called back to as much as a crack in the plasterboard. I can’t see an issue with using timber and the Americans never use it from all the channels I watch. We really need to catch up they are so far in front of us. Building inspector common sense seems to be getting worse as well. If it’s not in the book they can’t help 🤷
That RSJ looks real heavy (Definitely give you a Blister on your toe if it fell on you !!) and mounted on those pad mounts - beautiful real life building
You have to love working with dad, but the question is who is dad and who is son, on a side note was that Russells hall estate you were working on. Love the videos keep them coming.
He knows the crack now of having to stop and start and re film stuff but when he started to help me out when we first started the channel he’d just huff and puff and ask if we were going to do something 😂👍🏻
I do rafters 2 ways. If a ridge beam, I sit a straight edge on the ridge and wall plate and sit my Bosch digital level n to get the angle. I cut the end of the rafter to that angle. Sit two on either side and temp pin. Mark where it touches the ridge and wall plate. The off cut from the end can be used to mark out the birds mouth. If no ridge beam, I just measure the opposite, the adjacent is half the extension width, divide the opposite by that and that gives me the tangent. So the inverse of that is the angle. On vaulted ceilings, I rarely spec ridge beams and do my rafters the second way. It means you can get the cross beam higher, plus I use dog washers.
I would’ve thought they would have made them do that and screw them up before building the outer skin, although great work and overcome the problem anyway.
Tidy bit of brickwork that and probably no point in avoiding the straight joint in the timber in the ridge beam but I would have done the same good practice 😊
They are doing nothing apart from supporting the plasterboard. Unfortunately some Building inspectors have little understanding of Engineering and Structural Engineers love to over design.
I reckon the inspector was right to have a tie down ar the open end of the back wall. If the house wall is being plastered then therr ought to be one there as well really. If the rear wall is double skinned the brickie should have built in a few vertical straps as he went then it would have fully complied with the regs. Whoever designed the extension should have ensured that it would comply.
Quality job guys 🙂 but I was left thoroughly confused with your new square and all these measurements, it was like trying to understand Pythagoras theorem when I was at school and I never got my head around that either. You sure that’s your Dad? I hope you paid him a decent wage 😂😂😂 Nice one guys 👍
I think you’ll find that my explanation of it did it know favours it really is a great square. With regards whether he’s my Dad or not he is according to my Mum so unless she’s been lying to me all these years then I think so 😂
I've got my extension roof to di, very similar with a steel ridge. I was planning on bolting a timber ontop of the steel Instead of the sides like you. Do you think it would work OK on the top? Thanks
I can’t see why not but my plans didn’t ask for any fixing detail at all 🤷so I decided that I would do it like I did. All the best with your project and I’m more than happy to help you by answering any questions 👍🏻
Surely as you have lost so much height with those collar ties which aren’t necessary for structural purposes it would have been better to get a vaulted (barrelled) roof truss ?
My thoughts exactly Steven. I’ve taken roofs down to put up extensions with 6x1 ridge and 3x2 rafters with no bow or sag with rafter lengths longer than this one albeit proper rough sawn 75mm x 50mm. 🤷
@@mrabuilders6723That old timber would be proper slow grown stuff with really dense growth rings. The only thing to complain about on old roofs is a lack of worm treatment.
If there's no ceiling joists the spreading force of the rafters can push the walls out. The ridge beam (as opposed to ridge board) prevents the spread as the ridge can't drop. So in this case, with a ridge beam, the collar ties aren't really doing anything structurally, but I guess it gives something for the ceiling to be fixed to...
Building inspectors ugh.My son is one and his brickwork did my crust in.Told him one day I,d finish his corner and he lifted me by the throat and then stormed off swearing at me.(he,d had an accident and the doctor told me this might happen as he,d had head damage.)Wouldn,t have been so bad if the annals hadn’t seen it all.Those were gut wrenching days.
the ceiling collars are too low, it would have been so much easier and better to have fixed them flush to the bottom of the ridge beam, 145mm higher from your measurements, it would make the rooflight trimming much tidier, why not put the wall plate straps down the cavity side of the feature wall, much better than the horizontal straps
Hi and thank you for commenting but I’m gonna have to say that if you’d watched the video from start to finish your questions would have been answered and the reasons for what I did would make sense to you.
😁 retirement does that for you I reckon complete lack of stress but I hope I’m as able as he when I do reach his age which is a good while away yet thank you very much 😂
Hi John thanks for commenting and Happy New Year to you. I did think about that but I decided that bolting into the web would be a better fixing and bolting on top would need to have been planned in advance to make sure the bolts didn’t end up being in the same place as a rafter. If you missed it in the video I only did the timber work the customers builder did everything else I just specified the timber web holes. 👍🏻
RU-vid certified or not Chris your not wrong. I wasn’t involved as I said but I believe the foundations could have supported a block of flats. All a bit ridiculous for the size of it but what can we do 🤷
Notice you still have a total disregard for H&S and saying it's to expensive is not good enough. It's all ok until someone gets seriously hurt or worse 😢
You don’t need to tell me. The whole job has been over spec. If they ask for it and it’s submitted to local authority what can we or customer do then 🤷🤷
