Cyberpunk 2077 Release vs Patch 2.0 - Physics and Details Comparison 

It still feels obsolete and stiff

it still looks shit

It did

Bruh this still look like an alpha build of the game 💀💀

still buggy and weird.

Or never released on the last Gen consoles

Honestly I'm kinda torn on how I feel about that. On one hand, there's a lot of stuff that was cut or changed for the worse to save time or whatever the issue was. And it would have been nice to see how Cyberpunk could have turned out with an extra year or two of development time. Buuuut, on the other hand, I'm also fascinated with how CDPR handled cut content by just straight up leaving a huge amount of it physically IN the game. I've put a ridiculous amount of extra time into Cyberpunk, just exploring the map with double jump, and the new dash and air dash they added has made that even easier to do. I love exploring and coming across some unused stuff, or even something that implies more like the NCPD roof elevator and stuff. One of the big tall buildings, the one where you have to escape from the roof area, has a whole cut route with hatches and ladders and stuff. There's also developer cubes around there too, which makes me think those cubes were some kind of event trigger or enemy spawner or something. Most recently, I've glitched myself into Dogtown and have been exploring that before the DLC release and before I own it. So, like...yes, I would have loved a more finished and complete version of Cyberpunk. But, it also hasn't exactly made the game any less enjoyable for me, for it to have been released how it was.

as you can see tho, some things have improved, while others have stayed the same, and some things have even gotten worse...can't wait for Cyberpunk 2.5!

@@John-X There won't be one. Devs are moving on to Unreal Engine 5 and leaving REDEngine in the dust. Phantom Liberty DLC comes out in 4 days and its the last substantial patch to the game before they abandon development.

@@exodustimes4266 then what? CDPR is not Larian Studio, Swen and his wife own the majority of the share of the Studio, this is why they can do whatever they want, even having s*x with a bear, they don't care, they own the company. CDPR is not, they are a publically traded company, The 350M budget for this game didn't come from CDPR alone, most of that money came from the Investor, so they really need high sales for this game, and you can't get that from the Next Gen console back in 2020, with limited supply, why the old gen users had almost 250M users combined, in short: Money talks and CDPR knows that, this is why they didn't allow a code to review the console and hid it before the release.

should have released 2023 the year Silverhand took place

It would’ve been like watching Alt-history (Pun intended)

Its still total shit compared to GTA 5 on every level. Animations, city, feeling of how the world is alive everything. Total shit. Maybe if they keep patching it till 2077...

​@infonemesis4607 agreed but glad its the game that got its comeback 2023 perfect timing

I would like to add I tried it again after it has been patched with rtx ofcourse disabled, its not that bad of a game after all, it has that something it was just put out before it was finished sadly.

Yeah got the game for 30 bucks lol Worth the wait :P

Not worth it tbh it's same

@@vargvikernes4859game is great idk what you mean

@@vargvikernes4859 are you high?

@@_kqcper_332 no I ain't high it has same bugs like Mr. Hand won't call you at all n tons of other annoying bugs

thats the only issue I have with the game right now, the player model shadow is incredibly bugged.

it's the character animations themselves causing the actual bugged shadows and it's one of the most surprising things that they have not implemented yet- base movement animations. there's very few ingame rn that make the shadow look ok lol

@@7satsu fr i thought they would have atleast fixed it with this 2.0 update but nope

Not a great advertisement for patch 2.0

@@StewHeisenberg for me it's the t posing and out of sync audio

Nah this is the paid beta they released the pre alpha in 2020

This still looks like shit. Gta 5 still has better physics than this crap.

And you got free update , any other company would made update cost as much game...

@@smilingpolitely12345oh, like what they're doing right now charging $40 for the Phantom Liberty update?

@@LyamBenacon update is free which is a rework. dlc story content is paid. Theres nuance there.

Logs of things in this video were already patched before 2.0. This video lies to you on some aspects

Yeah, not like it went unpatched all this time, and clearly there are still issues but it's nice to appreciate what it has become.

that ladder bug was my very first moment when u start the nomad origin .. u have to climb the ladder and my dude just died all the time "but i played the PS4(no pro) edition (day one patch. right after release) .. hell i even made it to the end .. it was the whorst "QUICK SAVE" game i ever played but still needed to play that great game" glad i have it on PC for a while... whole different story

I played immediately on release (pc) and I don't remember ladders being weird or broken.

@@JeanSalqueSkwalk it doesn't lie at all, it clearly says "release vs 2.0" not "right before 2.0 vs 2.0"

Agree

man, I love this game, the physics are terrible the driving gameplay is very bad, even though it got a little better after the patches, shadows are strange too, but the writing is incredible, the characters are so interesting, the lore is amazing and the acting in most cases is very very good. although the technical points are not satisfactory, I am completely immersed

Been playing on my steam deck last few months but my first play through was on ps5 hopped back on it for phantom liberty and its looks amazing compared to steam deck

Agreed. The concept and design of the game is GOTY status for sure. I could spend hours just wandering around Night City from how detailed its layout is. But yes physics are still very rough. I feel like the game will just explode if I attempt to drive through a group of pedestrians.@@Gabriel-ns2cn

​@@Gabriel-ns2cnWdym driving in this game is really fun lol

When I saw that, it felt like Cyber Punk release, not like Update 2.0.

Power of cyberware

Well augmentation exit in that world ... but seriously those kind of bugs are what CP is know for , I would not expecy anything less 😄

Falcon punch

2.0 if fabulous, tho it still has a few wrinkles to iron out.

Its bad but to be honest in 200ghrs i never noticed it 😂

It’s down to their jank first person with body implementation. Other games either hide either the torso and arms or just arms with detached first person arms.

That's a relatively easy fix: Make the first person model not to cast shadows and create an invisible model with normal animations to cast shadows.

@@AntonisDimopoulos that might actually work. shadows might not 'perfectly' match up with what the first person animations are doing, but at least they would look better.

can't wait for Cyberpunk 2.0.1

they had to deal with some of the worst people that exists, THE EXECUTIVES, the game wasnt ready to be released, but they didnt wanna wait more to receive their money, so they forced the devs realease.

@@LuizHenriquePrates-ix6uryeah that’s what a lot of people don’t realise. The development studios aren’t usually the ones who decide things like release date. Cyberpunk unfortunately was a double edged sword, it didn’t matter what would happen with it people would complain. Releasing the game the way it did people complained about but then if they delayed it again people would complain even more. So they weren’t ever going to win.

@@kreed9323 Tell that to the people who pre-ordered their game after they promised a bunched of shit and then delivered a pile of dog shit. Delaying the game might have pissed off some people but it would have been better than releasing an unfinished game because ThE ExEcUTiVeS SaID So. No h8 king

@@nemssi3302 they promised a good game because that’s what the developers had planned and are more than capable of doing so if they had more time. The executives however had different plans.

For them yeah, there's some interviews that talk about them having trouble with the engine, partially because they were building the game engine as they were developing Cyberpunk. That mixed with the Executives forcing them to release the game earlier than intended, leading to crunch, amongst other stuff and yeah this was tough for people to work on.

Don't get too excited, 90% of budget has gone to the marketing. Game is still s*it

Never played. Guess its time.

full release?, that's one alpha, this one is beta. hopefully they add more update.

@@ZahidMuhammadOne fr, the game still has a lot of T posing and objects Just appearing in front of you as you drive

😆true, im fortunate to havent finish the game back 1.2

Same

OK DICK RIDAAAAAAAAAA

Yeah this is just confusing. I played a few months after launch and none of these issues were there.

​@@fakrulshamierWere you talking about yourself?😂

My thoughts exactly

@@fakrulshamier I will do that? played it for 155 hours and many of the things that were in the video were also there in 1.6? it's skill and ai and police and other little things that were changed but water? and swimming and npc Reaction was in 1.6 it probably got better in 2.0 but 1.6 was also a big update in the game

It's crazy that I'm able to have all settings cranked to Ultra with Raytracing Overdrive and still get 180FPS.

@@Gr13fM4ch1n3 looool

@@Gr13fM4ch1n3 yup yours GTX750 ti is a legend ;)

I'm just as surprised. I used to have barely 20-30 FPS in Ultra Widescreen with High settings with a 1080Ti. Now, though, I very consistently hit 60 fps. It's nuts.

That was my question and you answered it thanks

That’s my main complaint about the video, it implies a lot of issues that were fixed years ago weren’t fixed until now.

Funny!

@@phucbigbruh and also the sad truth

@@MettZilla yeah i know, first time was funny but now everyone keep saying that and its getting old.

ngl an official release of a typified jank games always felt like beta and this had the same vibe to it

@@MettZilla there's no truth here at all xD moved to alpha to finished game that is actually better than a loooot of games the came out the last 3 years

2020 I had potato PC , so I missed out on that game , now I have PC that will run CP2077 , but in lower requiremnts , but before xmas I will make upgrate , so is win win for me :)

"cp" lol

Agreed. The Dash and Air Dash has been AMAZING. Makes general getting around faster, but also makes combat more fun when you can like, bob and weave with the dash. And it helps me explore areas I'm not meant to, which is always a plus. I also saw a random motorcycle chasing a car, shooting at each other earlier, which was neat. Haven't seen any new police stuff yet, but I also don't make it a habit of purposely getting a wanted level. So I'm not likely to see a ton of that unless I purposely try to. Some changes, not the biggest fan of. Like, I much preferred clothing act as armor, as opposed to the cyberware having armor stats. Kinda makes the entire idea of transmog and outfits pointless now. Also sucks that enemies don't drop clothes now, way less stuff to loot overall. I also noticed they removed the "Locked" popup that'd show up on almost every single door in the game, even if you could never open it.

dont say cp2077 , it has unintended consequences oh dear ive just said it, oh dear lord baby jesus

​@@ziggyz8345Arrest him for saying cp2077....oh no

totally agree, underrated comment

lil jump

thats your only gripe? Thanks to simps like you that praise low standards and accept this crap is the reason we keep getting crap. Simps, thanks simp, the update is really good? What you buying used bath water too? Come on man get some standards, CDPR should be ridiculed for this lackluster update and Paid DLC with a horse armour car for pre orders? No man they should be ridiculed for this, not praised. thanks for ruing games simp, but please stop.

dont thank people that scammed you and lied to you, they don't deserve credits, it's their payback to not completly screw you over, and honestly, too little too late

@@filipebeatare you coming onto me?

​@@baguettelauncher8839bro are u ok?

*Aluminum

@@SufferMeNowlmfao yeah…

It wasn’t only the bugs and broken promises that made this game mid btw some of the story is pretty bad

@@The_House_Always_Wins imo one of the best video game narratives

​@@The_House_Always_WinsWhat game has a great story then? The Story in Cyberpunk 2077 was fine it wasn't mid

you know i cant delete any of them

Im replaying it now, you should do the same

@@griky9489 I will, I wanna finish Starfield first tho, after which I will be tired of first person rpg shooters, so I'll take a brake, then play it 🥲

@@kornelparoczai1763 I tried that, too bad optimized for my mediocre pc

@@griky9489 Yeah, my game barely runs it at a passable quality, and there are crashes sometimes, but it's fun tbh. Although Cyberpunk blows it out of the water even at the state it was in at launch.

Bro they need patch 5.0 if they wanna bring everything they advertised lol

he npcs still act weirdly. one was even floating

@@angryvaultguy They got 90% of the stuff promised already.

They still got the extending nexts when a ragdoll gets hit weirdly

que jogo lixo

I think they already said phantom is the last dlc they are done with this game. Anything you want you have to mod it.

Lmao

​@@Schumilex5I think they mean for the sequel

@@Schumilex5 well yea, part 2 is going to be another project. One that I hope doesn't collide with The Witcher game like this one did. And moving away from Red Engine is also a good news.

@@Schumilex5they also said they’re starting development on a sequel

Exactly. Player character animations are tweaked to make the arms look good from the camera's perspective as opposed to elsewhere. Simple as that really. They can look hilariously jank when viewed third person or in shadows etc

If your game has a third-person camera option, there is a good chance that the developers will create a flag for the local player that defines the requirement to show a different model or animation than what the first-person player sees. In other words, in multiplayer there would be no problem. It's a matter of the fact that the first-person view requires the model to be unnatural, because that's when it seems natural. Such treatments are common and you can, for example, watch videos from Dragon Ball FighterZ where models are subjected to strange treatments, but with the right camera work it looks very good.

They never use same models for 1st and 3rd person modes. All the animations and details are different to optimize the game. For example, character might only have hands and legs without body and head in 1-st person mode.

@@iraklitulashvili2820 Saying game developers, "in general", have methods to support 1st and 3rd person views concurrently isn't the same as saying CDPR and Cyberpunk followed through with those methods. Look at how janky those shadows are, as janky as footage of 3rd person mods which just use the existing game assets directly - and then notice how you never see yourself in third person unless you're in a particular mode or go through a menu. The consequences are probably baked somewhere so deep into the engine. So it's probably too late to change it and uproot the entire stack that's built on the jank without making it feel like an entirely different game and QAing the entire game from scratch. Cyberpunk, pre-release had a 3rd person view, and they were planning a multiplayer. Somewhere along the lines they decided to use the main geometry and distort it unnaturally - for movement, gameplay tweaking and I suspect also "hitboxes". The main thing is, while we expected them to repair the game after the botched launch (which they did very well), the idea they were still open to supporting multiplayer, without essentially tearing down the core mechanics of a released game, was super questionable.

They simply lied about the multiplayer or they planned on changing the third person animations but didn't

Don't worry the devs know, let's hope the investors learn instead.

Clearly, Blizzard didn't learn the lesson and chose to release Diablo 4

That's interesting, since i played it 2 years ago on pc rtx2060, noticed no bugs, 70 hours, and have a lot of fun.

This year proves that they don't care

lol What? Not a chance. They will still force games out early and give unrealistic expectations.

no amount of time will make this game a good rpg, or maybe it will but its clear they don't care to and will move on to the next project a real shame but oh well

@@bakutie It's good they're moving on, they can only do so much realistically lmao. We got more than we had hoped post-launch. The sequel on Unreal 5 coming this decade will be much better.

@@mycelia_owfair

​@myceli oh surely it will not be the same clown show

2077 still long way mate!

I dont think so, the game is STILL broken, its like going out of a alpha version to a beta.

@@low_sky9 Uh... what are you on about. Name five game-breaking bugs in 2.0, or you're wrong

Wait, yours said "Choom"? Mine said "Gonk" and then what looks to be a crude drawing of a middle finger from Johnny and it appears someone spat in the middle of my letter

The game still lookin like sheesh, and all the things they promised weren't added yet. Don't be salty mate ​@jeffreyliu2289

​@jeffreyliu2289 the mission where you help the president escape with the drone/hack is still broken. You cannot do it stealthy. Without some sort of glitch. The game crashes. Frame rate drops like crazy in some parts. Textures sometimes dont fill in. And the first time i was at the camfire with panam everyone was in T figure.

@@Hellmiauz True, but its not like 3, vice city, sanandres or IV were unplayable and useless at launch, V had some issues but nothing like this game had. RDR2 for pc on the other hand doesn't get nearly enough attention. People still struggle to play it to this day.

Sadly the only thing R* gives a fuck about now a days is making you buy shark cards they have become more and more aggressive with gimping shit to force you to buy those shitty shark cards.

i agree it so close i almost feel like just one more update on the last few bugs maybe 2 and we are Good to go!! But wow 2.0 nice work from the team well done!!

The only thing unfixable is your mind...

Yeah unfortunately I can't get legendary gorilla arms at level 3 anymore, or legendary mantis blades off the chest in city center

I find it incredible it was that bad to begin with, but I guess we have different standards.

In Night City there are not even pets or birds (the reason for this is explained in the lore, in a spike that you can find in the game) it is OBVIOUS that fish were not going to be an exception xd The entire city is polluted by various wastes and gases etc. Imagine how uninhabitable city water must be for all types of fish.@@weplaywax

are you insane. how low is your bar? this is actually deranged

@@SmokinjoewhiteNothing incredible in finding that rushed game had rushed audio designed or lack of it.

Somehow I didn’t get the bugs on release and it was really rare to crash.

The Bethesda approach to game development

While I'm not trying to defend CDPR, how true is this statement? Can you provide a source? I have not kept up with their development.

You understand that most of the these things were cut/unfinished and modders just took them out of the locker room. I love giving credit where credit is due but, for example, chasing system was cut and modders just made it appear in the game again. And the whole police system is completely overhauled, mods did not even come close to it.

@@pawe1721but can you answer his question tho?

i thinks is not bad idea, modder do it for get his portfolio curriculum, company save money and time and customer enjoy the game :D , win - win

Even funnier that most games in the industry are worse than cp2077 before patches haha

​@@GreatMisterEfor example?

@@GreatMisterEehh I don’t think so

well i presume that you don't play a lot of game at there release...@@guts4300

@@REXOQ I do actually, and NONE of them was ever as close to being as broken as cyberpunk was on release

Gta iv has a better phisical engine of any game after it for that matter, including Rockstar 's own games (gta v isn't even close to it)

Nuh uh

@@matteo964 the weird thing is that Gta 5 runs on the same engine as gta4

Even rdr2 has suck physics compare to gta 4

Well thats the only things is better at, things that dont matter

Stock comment

True, still feels lifeless.

LMAOO well, this is it. Just phantom liberty now, after rhat its ALL focus on cyberpunk 2 and witcher games so it'll stay like this

@@lum1notryc828they BETTER not fuck up on the sequel 😭😭😭 if they do, they will never come back from it

Hate to break it to ya. But after the Phantom Liberty expansion releases, i'm not sure they're gonna do anymore major updates for this game except for some bug and performance fixes.

rdr2 doesnt have better graphics than cyberpunk

it's crazy how this game absolutrly obliterates rdr2 in all RPG aspects, as if their genres and priorities where different, hmm

@isnthefkingawesome756 that is subjective if u like the open world n nature it's more appealing to u, but as for me night city is my hub

you shouldn't respect cdpr for making the game playable bro, they first made the game unplayable, this patch is the mininimal of the features that the cyberpunk should have

​@@isnthefkingawesome756cp2077 isnt photorealistic either. Kingdome come deliverance is an example of photorealistic game. All rdr2 has are grass, trees, mountains and skybox. So ofcourse youre gonna say it looks better, doesnt mean it is tho.

lol gta had this 40 years ago.

@@utku3372GTA literally doesn't do this.

@@utku3372 GTA they will either hit you or slow down

@@utku3372 Wow, never knew there was a GTA on the 2600.

1.6 is for me the IDEAL version playing with old Haswell 4790 Quad CPU and RTX2060 6g.. AND 1.6 had amazing edgerunners addons PLUS most amazing "Jump any height, Brake fall with shotgun" was fixed already 1.61 but amazing to explore impossible spots without cheats/mods..

Bro it screams pc in every slight mouse movement. you just did not ask that

Yeah we were already seeing some 1.6 in play, such as some of the water effects and NPC reactions to violence. That's all been there since 1.6 but labelled as '2.0' instead.

This has to be a bot

It is not the shadow issue. It is the animation of the model. The camera is in the right place for the first person view and you can see as much of yourself as when you look around, so it looks good. However, most likely the character model animation doesn't look human like in the 3rd person view. They 100% not going to fix it in this game. Out of big releases this year only Tears of the Kingdom can get away fully as the game is a cartoon like looking fantasy. Some the stuff you can't even tell if they were intended like that or not. Cyberpunk 2077 is done now. The game is good. Starfield is good and has same issue that it will never match the hype.

CD already said this was going to be their last major update

With some ini. tweaks you are able to make the game to reflect your own character but I don’t recommend it, your character has no head in the reflections and the 3D model has a lots of flaws as it moves, so I understand why they left it off.

That shadow is 100% accurate to your player model. If they going to fix the shadow and reflection in RT, they are going to need to create new animations FOR EVERYTHING a 3rd person game requires

Y también la mira de las armas, eso deben arreglarlo, hasta Cod Mobile qué es de celular tiene mas detalle en las miras de las armas con y sin apuntado.

You weren't the only one to never go back. Remember when you crafted so many items that it corrupted the savegame too? Yea, I didn't have fun afterwards

Same, never had real problems after release, some little bugs, but nothing special. But after 2.0 I am having more bugs and game crashes than ever before, even after Patch 2.01.... Really annoying..

There are non-deflatable tires in combat vehicles in the DLC

Tires are probably too efficient as they are now to change in 54 years

@@ChristianSandviknes well they are already changing them in 2024 to completely airless, safe to say by 2077 there more then likely won't be tires anymore at all, more than likely either hovering or flying vehicles at the rate of tech.

Airless tires aren't really efficient though, since they increase fuel consumption. They're also more susceptible to breaking due to overheating since there's no layer of air to disippate the heat from the friction. As for hovering or flying vehicles; they're already in cyberpunk - and they may exist in real life as well at some point, but they're not a replacement for the car, they're a replacement for the helicopter. It would be far too inefficient (even in a punk society) to have cars hover when having tires do the same job. @@tactrix1h

@@tactrix1h this comment shows you don't even have bare minimum understanding of basic physics if you think the rate of tech will get us such things in that amount of time

@@channeldoesnotexist yea whatever you say kiddo, you apparently live under a rock, the FAA already granted a license to flying cars, so keep living in the past.

lol thats why i dont buy the phanton liberty , what shame game....rdr2 is miles away! ty for the vid

No problem

да пожалуйста, спасибо за контент

​@@dino6080trash video

how do u get released version ?uninstall all updates?

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The game just release my friend now you have to wait another year to be completely fixed

Tbh I still miss something. They promised 3 totally unique life paths. They are still 99.9% the same. And in comparison to GTA 5 (10 years old) the npc's are still dumb as fuck. The shadows alone would never happen in many other AAA titles. And what about their the vertical city idea? Also very lacking. Don't mistake me, I appreciate all the work they put into it the last 3 years, but it still feels a bit lacking because of the big BIG promises they made back in the day.

Ещё подужду 3 года официального релиза игры, багов ещё много.

The devs were probably rushed to release early by their boss and shareholders like any other disappointing hyped-up released games out there. But it actually needed 5+ years to produce to meet the level of promises that they made. Edit: Their work to improve the game is amazing though and appreciated for people who bought the game.

​@@J_Whalelover2077 is an rpg. It isn't meant to be like gta.

@@vregsharmodan3333 Pretty much this, the majority of AAA Games released in the past 10years have shitty bugs all over the place. Its sad, but only few of these games actually get the love and work done to it that CDPR did. Ill def keep going for CDPR games, up until the point the investors kick everyone good out of the studio and fill it up with political and greedy zealots(Looking at you Bungie)

Man You just said it. People is like /😨\ cause they added a drive by mechanic GTA 3 had in 2001.

@@bah6422 right? How wrong we having it these days when devs are bragging for fixing their broken ass game that costed buttload of money and was 10% of what they promised. Gamers really need to get their standard up if we want these greedy corps to actually start making good games.

Maybe gamers should look more at the overall picture rather than fixate on one tiny aspect and copy pasta the same shit as each other and think they have a unique take.

​@SkullTorchaRS they were being pushed, death threats against em because they wouldn't release it early soo they did to show yeah it wasn't done