NextStep evolved into MacOS X. The current Mavericks, which won't run PPC Or Classic Mac is probably closer to NeXT than MacOS X 10.0. Also NeXT and MacOS X were certifed POSIX Compliant Unix, Linux and Unix share a lot of great features which will make it to commercial distros. The pin to panel is actually stolen from GNOME, which is one of many graphical shells you can use on UNIX or Linux. NeXTStep was a very elegant Shell for NeXT's Unix core as Aqua is the Shell for Apple's Darwin core.
@TowfiqTheBrown Once they took over Nextstep they went work on implementing it, but it was a major overhaul so it took a while for it to come out. They had to develop application to be able to run on OS X and still be able to run older class applications. In the mean time they upgraded OS 8 to 9. They previously tried to overhaul the OS code named Copeland but it wasn't going very well so they looked at NextStep.
@StigTube06 Yes But it was on NextStep first. It took apple quite some time to make a new operating system based of NextStep that was also compatible with Mac OS. This is now what is called Mac OS X
You know, if it works, don't fix it :) I'm kind of happy that NeXTSTEP is at the basis of Mac OS X, it's much better then the classic Mac OS System kernel and it's a powerful unix system with beauty and user experience on top of it.
Good video! It make me think.... What would have happened if Jobs had not left Apple? The NeXT OS would have been the Mac OS of the 90s, say from version 6? How would have changed the computing world with the embryo of Mac OSX 10 years in advance of its presentation in 2000?
Or, more realistically, NeXTSTEP would have never been invented because Steve didn't have the same level of freedom in mid-80s Apple that he did with a fresh new company.
Jobs founded Next then he returned to Apple and brought it all in with him. Thus OSX is basically NextSTEP's successor. so which part should I be surprised with?
@Subdest @Subdest Most people have never heard of NeXTSTEP so the idea is to show these people that most of the OS X technology was developed 15 years earlier at NeXT. My intention is also to put in people's minds the question: what if... Steve had been running Apple all these years? Finally, it's also to show that Steve is shameless about keeping on using good recipes (for demos, for that matter).
@FenrirLupus How hard is it to install VirtualBox in Linux ? It's not that hard... I never had a problem with many drives ... ever print, camera , iPod, external hard drive all worked out of the box... the printer I had to install under system it took like two minutes. I use Linux for most on-line stuff because it's safe, and doesn't get viruses all the time like Windows, and I only use Windows for some software, and I SandBox my web. I'm running Adobe CS5 in Linux right now. Look at my video.
Yeah, Commodore could have been something like Apple now. But they missed the train by not improving the Amiga platform and some other mistakes. I really miss Commodore, as I miss Steve Jobs now
If this was next 1989 i think there was only OS2 1.0 windows 1.01.. ..in color, sort of (Well it had 3 colors) The Next had postscript! similar to quartz on OSX.. the apples were all still black and white too (i think) Dos could do 1 thing at a time windows could do 2 , the mac could do maybe 2 tasks Next could do as many as the system could handle and OS/2 also. but remember that that wasn't IBM Os/2 but the Microsoft/IBM one, with the original code base for the Windows you're using NOW!!
@WINANDMACNERD NeXTSTEP is operating system based on the Mach kernel, plus source code from BSD Unix... BSD is an OS as well... After NeXTSTEP Apple also has a Linux project called MKLinux... MkLinux started as a project sponsored by Apple Computer and OSF Research Institute... I use PC-BSD, and Linux Ubuntu and Linux Mint... there are 1,000's of Linux distribution... BSD uses Linux Flash Player and PC-BSD looks like KDE Linux... Both Linux and BSD are free, and came do most things Mac OS can.
It shits me Steve Jobs can be this fucking amazing and yet we still don't have simple things like custom message tones on our iPhones or Blu-ray on Mac etc. Just wish he was more open-minded for stuff like that, and then he'd be the complete package, ready to worship God ;)
I used NeXTSTEP in the early 1990'es and it was clearly ahead of it's time. I found it very easy to use and I reaylly hoped it would spread, but that never really happened :-(
That's a common misconception. Steve had freedom at NeXT that he would have never had had he stayed with Apple. His departure was bad for Apple in the short-term, but clearly good for Apple in the long-term.
Mac OS X is continue of NeXTSTEP... So what is idea of this video? P.S. If you look in dev documentation for MacOSX (and iPhone also) you will see that many classes start form NS :)
@pcuimac Sorry, It was my comment, I forgot to logoff my gf's account. I was not ditching nextstep. I was ditching Os X. And uhm, I guess I can program. If you had actually used 7, you would notice it doesn't emulate "NEXTstep in almost every detail". You would notice is more of a mix between Os X dock and the normal windows taskbar. The nice thing of the 7 taskbar however, is aeropeek. That's what improves usability. Jumplists are nice too.
Mac OS X is a Unix base with open source software and a lot of proprietary code. Windows has roots in NT with some open source software and a lot of proprietary code. Linux have a core inspired by Unix with open source and some companies write proprietary code on top. Who stole what is only relevant to history lessons now. It makes no sense to break out with all new code created completely in house when there's so much out there you have to be compatible with. MS learned this with Longhorn.
When Jobs came back, Apple was weeks away from bankruptcy, so, Apple wouldn't have made anything...he, alongside the Microsoft deal saved the company(to say the least).
@laynor Maybe i got carried away by my enthusiasm for NeXT and Apple. I think Windows got better since Windows XP came to the market. But M$ most of the time does copy features from OS X. They copied Expose functionality they made the Taskbar more like the Dock. But also OS X borrows heavily from X11 and Digital Research GEM. And I think it´s no problem if all get better in that process. But M$ lacks ideas of their own. That´s what I wanted to say. No style and no ideas. Just plain copying.
I am so proud to have an original NeXTstep cube with 32bit NeXT Dimension gfx card on my desk. It´s so lovely to build an application on a 20 year old computer that can stand the test of time. This product shows clearly that not the BEST wins in the market but the established. The so called industry standard. MSDOS and Intel were retarded products back then and even Atari and Amiga were much better in 1991.
They didn't nearly have the technology back then. Remember even macs were limited to the current technology of the time, they just chose to use the high end pieces for their products. A laptop from 2000 could have a 4 GB harddrive and it would be considered a lot, and they would be bulky, while we can fit 64 GB on a microship nowadays.
most of this stuff was in linux/unix at the time steve "borrowed" it and made it his. I'm less impressed after seeing this video. Plus the company employees that cheer wildly, no matter how big the announcement, drive me CRAZY. "It has a thesaurus built in" [wild cheers] "cancer has been cured by Apple" [wild cheers]
Yes, apparently everyone who has ever used a computer knows all about workstation operating systems like Linux/Unix/NeXTStep. It's like XEROX went crazy because people cheered at: "It's got a user interface and a mouse!"
@kidonlyle you know nothing, absolutely nothing. Linux is a from-the-ground-up reworking of UNIX, which dates from 1969, BSD is from the early 80s and I believe NEXTSTEP was released in the early 80s, became OPENSTEP shortly after and was reworked as GNUSTEP for Linux and UNIX
@pcuimac The Pin to Taskbar is not a copy of Mac OS dock... Nope Pin to Taskbar in Windows 7 is copied from Linux Pin to Panel that has been in Linux for year, and year... The allow/deny in Vista M$ took from Linux as well and it is a poor clone ...
Then Microsoft has never invented an OS of their own (check it, from NT on it's all purchased technology) and Linux is "stolen" from Unix. So, did you post this using an abacus?...
@0sayaka38sayaka0 What are you talking about. Do you have any programming skill at all? Have a look at Windows 7. It emulates NeXTstep in almost every detail. Even the Windoof Taskbar is now a Dock ripoff.
Steve didn't even return to Apple as CEO until 1997, and it took at least a year to save it from itself. Steve turned NeXTstep into OSX as fast as he could.
