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D is for Disaster | Talking Feds Podcast 

Talking Feds with Harry Litman
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The week had a tsunami like intensity that left abundant wreckage in its wake, both in the political and legal landscapes; and a fantastic roundtable of Andrea Mitchell, Charlie Sykes, and Jacob Weisberg bears down on what went awry and the unavoidable question-unthinkable one week ago-whether Biden needs to step aside. We then turn to the momentous week in the Supreme Court, which advanced the uber-conservative agenda especially in administrative law before previewing the immunity decision.
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@mikestone8633
@mikestone8633 Месяц назад
It's sad the way Biden is treated by the media. While Trump can't answer a single question or tell the truth one time. Yet he's treated like a competent candidate. 😢
@cathyhirsch7490
@cathyhirsch7490 Месяц назад
And we saw for 4 years how incompetent Trump was as president. It is like all prior knowledge of Trump has magically been erased from peoples’ brains.
@ttacking_you
@ttacking_you Месяц назад
Hey a guy named Mike Stone doesn't cry! A Stone Is rock hard!
@cathynewyork7918
@cathynewyork7918 Месяц назад
@@ttacking_you This comment makes no sense.
@lorysutherland5464
@lorysutherland5464 Месяц назад
Over the debate stuff.. More concerned about solution for crooked Supreme. Thank-You.
@jeffd9782
@jeffd9782 Месяц назад
I'd rather see a delegator in the Whitehouse, than a dictator.
@leemarkley8496
@leemarkley8496 Месяц назад
We need a person who is not senile in the WH ! What is wrong with you people ?!
@dawnoceanside7300
@dawnoceanside7300 Месяц назад
​@@leemarkley8496nothing, we're keeping fascist tRumpf OUT!!!
@mikestone8633
@mikestone8633 Месяц назад
@@leemarkley8496 A senile president who has competent people around him beats the hell out of a fascist supported by white Christian nationalist.
@rudycandu1633
@rudycandu1633 Месяц назад
Of course. But only if he can get enough votes and that just is not going to happen now. They shot themselves in the -foot- heart with this debate.
@mikestone8633
@mikestone8633 Месяц назад
This isn't about Biden. Because regardless what he is he hasn't stacked the government with criminals and white Christian nationalist. So it's on all Americans to decide if they want a democracy or not. This election is a referendum on us as Americans.
@stephentutton2060
@stephentutton2060 Месяц назад
Joe's not a great orator, but he's been a great president. We knew he was old when we elected him the first time
@Jmamelia
@Jmamelia Месяц назад
And he campaigned on being a ONE TERM president.
@christinarose3002
@christinarose3002 Месяц назад
Stick with Biden.
@ElaineDarlingtonBrown
@ElaineDarlingtonBrown Месяц назад
Andrea Mitchell discussing this topic???
@angelatuck3673
@angelatuck3673 Месяц назад
Andrea Mitchell? Who can barely get a coherent sentence out on live tv? Wow.
@1indefinitetruth
@1indefinitetruth Месяц назад
EXACTLY!
@kylemarkermusic
@kylemarkermusic 16 дней назад
She’s not running for president
@danskhansen
@danskhansen Месяц назад
I am so fed up with how people jump to conclusions based on what they think they see. Earlier tonight I listened as Keith Olbermann suggested that what we saw was quite possibly just an old guy with a bad cold suffering the effects of ordinary cold medicine, which is not unusual for seniors, and certainly no cause for alarm. Everyone needs to calm down.
@gasovensforqcult
@gasovensforqcult Месяц назад
I am so fed up that peoples feelings get in the way of reality. Just like in 2016 when all polling indicated Bernie could beat trump and HRC couldn't. But noooo!!! The DNC just had to check the female president box and ignore reality. How did that work out? Bernie would've beaten trump and we wouldn't be in this position today. Just like Kamala isn't going to be able to beat trump if Biden steps aside. F box checking and put a ticket together that can beat trump
@jaelo2314
@jaelo2314 Месяц назад
I agree. The man was not well. Yet we've allowed trump to lie throughout the debate, and that's not alarming.
@aguynamednick
@aguynamednick Месяц назад
'Don't trust your lying eyes.' Nice.
@leemarkley8496
@leemarkley8496 Месяц назад
Really ?! You are kidding yourself. Biden is senile and he is not going to get better. This is called old age and it only goes one direction. America deserves better ! We must defeat Trump ! Wake the eff up !
@C4...
@C4... Месяц назад
😂🤣😂​wow... that was totally not what was said, maybe re read and try again? @aguynamednick
@aliceanneacts6164
@aliceanneacts6164 Месяц назад
I’m out. Done with debate discussion. And Andrea Mitchell really has no right to dis anyone else for verbal stumbles and seeming old.
@TJM-vg3ei
@TJM-vg3ei Месяц назад
Seriously I thought she was drunk when she was talking. Maybe all that botox and Miss Clairol ate through to her brain. She says she will know when it's time to retire, but.... clearly that was several years ago.
@jarrodf_
@jarrodf_ Месяц назад
To quote Prof Allan Lichtman: 'Debates have zero predictive value - Hillary Clinton won all three debates. I don't think this debate moved the needle one inch... Dropping Biden at this point would be a disaster for the Democrats. Media pundits have zero record in assessing what actually impacts election results.'
@cronizle
@cronizle Месяц назад
Debates don't matter, but seeing your candidate's brain dissolve on national TV might be a bit different.
@chrisocony
@chrisocony Месяц назад
Not dropping Biden is an assured loss. Dropping him is the only chance, however small or not, of winning.
@jarrodf_
@jarrodf_ Месяц назад
@@cronizle @Remindmeofthis in four months
@cronizle
@cronizle Месяц назад
@jarrodf_ Why? Do you think people are going to forget that as a "one-off/bad night?" We forget Trump things because he said and done too much stuff. But we all remember Mitt Romneys "Binders full of woman." The idea that undecided/independents/ the 5 Nikki Haley voters are going to lose track of watching Biden who looked and acted like Diane Fienstien a week before she died is nutty. Unless you are just into the cult of personality, watching that would make you not trust that guy around a stove, much less the most stressful and most powerful single job on the planet. The guy can wipe out any single country solo.
@roseandersonful
@roseandersonful Месяц назад
No one has ever ruled a country, governed a nation by debates. Democratic countries are governed by policies and laws not debates.
@markendicott6874
@markendicott6874 Месяц назад
Maybe add the context that so far polling seems to show its made NO Difference to the numbers for Biden, but dropping the Orange Liar a point to a point and a half across a range of demos. So perhaps the usual "untouchable" effect that Trump gets the benefit of all the time has actually flipped a little, and the public have already priced on Biden's frailty and know they just dont want the alternative.
@arlandirkson6024
@arlandirkson6024 Месяц назад
First, there hasn't yet been good polling done on the effect of the debate. It won't matter (much) what national polling says, only how the debate affects what undecided voters in the swing states think. Second, the whole idea behind this debate strategically from the Biden team was to put to rest concerns about his age to those very voters I just mentioned. It likely did the exact opposite.
@ttacking_you
@ttacking_you Месяц назад
Yeah, and "orange liar" is so milquetoast and banal! C'mon man!: FLABRADOR DECEIVER, P.O.S.otus, JFKFC... THESE are proper deprecations!
@dlcs1406
@dlcs1406 Месяц назад
🤗🤗🤗🤗 Hi Harry 💙 We'll get through this. Have faith. Only ones I saw make a suggestion for him to step down were CNN and, shame on them, and Claire McCaskill which really surprised me!
@catherinekasmer9905
@catherinekasmer9905 Месяц назад
Two separate issues. Biden is impaired.
@danskhansen
@danskhansen Месяц назад
Claire McCaskill should be ashamed of herself. Sara Longwell over on The Bulwark has been brutal. I will say the people I've seen who've been hardest on him have been the strategist types, so I can appreciate where they're coming from. But still. Not helpful.
@aguynamednick
@aguynamednick Месяц назад
How about the Pod Save America guys? That all worked for Obama and to a man thought Biden was cooked. Also MSNBC. Also every single other left leaning political podcaster I've listened to since Thursday. Making hard decisions is just that, hard.
@robertadaversa2503
@robertadaversa2503 Месяц назад
I hope Biden steps down. Anyone who is committed to voting for Biden today, will vote for Dems no matter who is nominated. He lost the undecided voters on Thursday, and he will not win without them.
@robertadaversa2503
@robertadaversa2503 Месяц назад
​@@danskhansenBiden continuing is not helpful.
@noreenconstantine4612
@noreenconstantine4612 Месяц назад
Trump kept bringing up the border constantly no matter the subject
@Jan-zv7ze
@Jan-zv7ze Месяц назад
AND it is TRUMP that blocked the funding from Congress to send support to our borders for more protection. Let's stay focused patriots!
@ttacking_you
@ttacking_you Месяц назад
Trump's so shitty and lazy! 🥴 _" derr, polices and platforms!? Nah? Sounds like work?"_ Luckily, for the first time in American history, a pathetic spineless Republican party is giving a presumptive nominee veto power.
@rebeccaharrishunt1181
@rebeccaharrishunt1181 Месяц назад
Greatest hits.
@jpkatz1435
@jpkatz1435 Месяц назад
Repubs: NEVER STOP ATTACKING.​@@rebeccaharrishunt1181
@1indefinitetruth
@1indefinitetruth Месяц назад
he's proud of himself...he tanked an entire (largely republican - authored/favored) bill because he's a jealous, selfish, needy, vindictive, incompetent jackass.
@stevenmcvay5193
@stevenmcvay5193 Месяц назад
Bidens fine drop your pearls and support him to the hilt.
@sansserif8839
@sansserif8839 Месяц назад
Exactly.
@sallyhu5028
@sallyhu5028 Месяц назад
Always stuck up for Mitchell whenever she stumbles on her own show, with viewers commenting it's long past time for her to exit ... so to hear her dumping over Biden - when she's showing her own advanced age herself. Not going to stay up just to listen to this crap.
@aimeerice4687
@aimeerice4687 Месяц назад
Agreed!!! I'm glad I don't depend on any of these people as a support system for me. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
@Mary-us8jb
@Mary-us8jb Месяц назад
I found her absolutely insulting. Have you wondered why she can't handle her own show that she has to have a 'partner'? MSNBC must not trust her to do her own show. I've also seen her with her mouth open.
@gasovensforqcult
@gasovensforqcult Месяц назад
all you hillarybots are respnsible for putting trump in office. You are making the same mistake by not seeing what the reality of this is. History will repeat itself if you don't learn from your past mistakes
@jaelo2314
@jaelo2314 Месяц назад
True. I rarely click on her pieces because I don't stay long.
@aliceanneacts6164
@aliceanneacts6164 Месяц назад
OMG I’m reading this before she has spoken. I always have mixed feelings when she stumbles because my mom remembered her White House correspondent days and I like that she’s still on. But, yeah, she’s in a pretty big glass house to throw any stones about aging and verbal stumbling. I’m out. Not going to listen to the rest of this.
@roseandersonful
@roseandersonful Месяц назад
I am as disappointed with this podcast as I was with the debate, but I will continue to tune in, as I will continue to ride with Biden. My disappointment is the harshness against Biden for one debate that was not a debate. A debate is not a refutal of lies, no one can debate lies. Debates are about issues, and Donald Trump told lies without putting forth one issue that could be debated, and that should be the story, the lies. The fact is Joe Biden is doing a phenomenal job in spite of his age, partly because he has surrounded himself with intellectuals who know what they are doing and he will continue to do that for the next four years, if he is able to win the election when there are narratives like those presented in this podcast to contend with. Even with cue cards, Biden is able to command respect from the internaltional community and leaders. If Biden is unable to carry out his four years, he has a very able and ready vice president to take over that no one is addressing. Trump will not be governing, his cabinet will, and would you prefer those to Joe's cabinet? The tongue lashing that you all gave to Joe should have been reserved for the Supreme Court and the criticism given against Joe should have been equally levied against Trump, we cannot give him a pass while crucifying Joe. My last point is that none of you have a viable plan, so to put Biden in the pasture because he is old is irresponsible when we have no other viable alternative at this point in the election. Stop it. Change the narrative. We continue to ride with Biden.
@sandrabailey9589
@sandrabailey9589 Месяц назад
💯
@1indefinitetruth
@1indefinitetruth Месяц назад
yes, i absolutely agree
@jodywho6696
@jodywho6696 Месяц назад
Cnn should step down. Fact checking would have destoryed strump. Debatting a child who does nothing but lie. ✨💙✨🇺🇸✨
@mary-ellenkaufold8466
@mary-ellenkaufold8466 Месяц назад
The only way we keep our democracy is for us to have President Biden's back. We need to stop all this negative talk. Biden all the way.
@PonderousProse
@PonderousProse Месяц назад
VOTE BLUE. 🔥⚖️🇺🇲🌊
@user-jc4pn6dx8i
@user-jc4pn6dx8i Месяц назад
President Biden all the way. He had an off night, but the next day he blew it out of the park. My man all the way.
@thexanderthemander
@thexanderthemander Месяц назад
Biden showed that he can't not win against Trump. The party needs to rally around somebody else or Trump will win.
@dlcs1406
@dlcs1406 Месяц назад
Yep! He is the only one that Trump fears
@airwindows
@airwindows Месяц назад
Don't care if he dies. He has a team, we are voting for Kamala quite naturally as a Vice President, she is privy to all that they are working on now: voting Biden is voting the TEAM. How do you know he's not just frazzled from behind-the-scenes dealing with Netanyahu?
@PJMoosinSeattle
@PJMoosinSeattle Месяц назад
If Andrea Mitchell is on I'm NOT watching. If you are bashing our competent decent President, I'm NOT watching. I expected better from you than this. Vote blue!
@rcpmac
@rcpmac Месяц назад
Keep your eyes covered as you kiss democracy goodbye
@NoSacredCowFla
@NoSacredCowFla Месяц назад
SCOTUS better not F up the immunity case because that will be the end. If they let it go, Joe should immediately imprison Gym Jordan for contempt of Congress.
@avatar25001
@avatar25001 Месяц назад
Joe can't do anything immediate. "He beat medicare" It took him 4 years
@reverbscherzo7850
@reverbscherzo7850 Месяц назад
Of course they f'd up the immunity case. 😖
@kathrynfrie594
@kathrynfrie594 Месяц назад
What I saw during the debate were Moderators who didn't know how to do their job. They never held Trump's feet to the fire and made him stick to the topic and answer the question. I saw Biden wrestle with opposing thoughts of which lie do i respond to first or do I respond to the question or do I try to respond to both and ultimately sometimes his responses were a befuddled mixture of trying to do both. Yes Biden struggled, but you could tell he wanted to call Trump out with each lie as it was said but couldn't because he was following the rules. People say the it isn't the job of the Moderators to fact check but it is their job to keep the person on task to answer the question asked and the rebuttal is the time for a response to what the other person just said not a free range speech time. CNN failed all of us. A debate is Point and Counter Point... Voting BLUE all the way MAGA has to go...
@maryroseart
@maryroseart Месяц назад
💯
@GretchenDawntreader
@GretchenDawntreader Месяц назад
I dunno if Biden was trying to avoid looking "jacked up" by not getting a good night's sleep and not having coffee, but the next day he was back to his rhetorical best. I am very angry at people ignoring a long distinguished career and the last 4 years of significant and important legislative wins and willing to chuck Biden overboard over a bad 90 minutes. Also, he was facing a firehose of dishonesty from the other podium. HE WAS NOT FADING AWAY THE NEXT DAY. What a bunch of fairweather friends the Dems turned out to be.
@GretchenDawntreader
@GretchenDawntreader Месяц назад
meanwhile, the other guy, who will surely win if people get Biden to withdraw, is a traitor, a rapist, a fraud, forbidden from charity work in NY because of stealing donations, and the first President in our history to deploy his followers in street violence to try to stay in power when the voters took it away from him.
@joancooney7724
@joancooney7724 Месяц назад
Well Said
@PedroLopez-sx1zw
@PedroLopez-sx1zw Месяц назад
VOTE JOE BIDEN: VOTE FOR DEMOCRACY: VOTE; VOTE;VOTE BLUE.
@leemarkley8496
@leemarkley8496 Месяц назад
Stop your ignorant baloney ! Do you care about the country ? Biden must step down. He is not capable. We must defeat Trump !
@leemarkley8496
@leemarkley8496 Месяц назад
All caps ! Just like Trump ! You need to wake up. Biden is not up to the task.
@alisongrable7209
@alisongrable7209 Месяц назад
@alisongrable7209
@alisongrable7209 Месяц назад
💙
@mjinba07
@mjinba07 Месяц назад
@@leemarkley8496 Even if Biden were up to the task, if somehow his performance in that "debate" were the result of some extreme conditions, not enough people will believe it. I suspect @PedroLopez-sx1zw is a bot, aimed at undermining voter cohesion.
@MarySilver-sp8jm
@MarySilver-sp8jm Месяц назад
I still stand with Joe!
@christinanovak6726
@christinanovak6726 Месяц назад
Who is the Superwoman or Superman swooping in to save the day? Biden is still my man 💙 He was marvelous just under 3 months ago at the State of the Union. He was on fire the day after the debate in North Carolina 🎉 Maybe the debate formula was subpar, and the moderators were useless?!
@generalputnam2990
@generalputnam2990 Месяц назад
Oh, Harry: your guests wailing & gnashing of their pearls (waiting on the garment-rending) by the Chattering Classes.. The vast majorty of us admire his exerience, candor, honesty, & intelligence even if he was napping. Biden has raised $51 million in 2.5 days. S much for te train wreck. And please, please leave Andrea Mitchell to answer her ever-so-busy phone instead.
@linguaphile42
@linguaphile42 Месяц назад
The response has been anything but unanimous. Pundits, the NYT, and big media have one view, independent journalists (whom I trust more and more), and voters on FB Biden supporter pages as well as commenters on this very video have a totally different take. If what we saw on Thursday night were his daily demeanor, they never would have set up the debate. This was an anomaly, as anyone who really follows what Biden does every day (which the mass media does not) knows.
@scout3444
@scout3444 Месяц назад
Very good point. And taking cold medicine may have been a huge contributor. In older people, the active ingredients cause disorientation and confusion and they aren't supposed to take that stuff. Plus he had to be exhausted. Imo, his prep team failed him miserably for dealing with 45. Not to mention CNN who didn't fact check or hold 45 to the questions.
@user-cr9kj7cn4d
@user-cr9kj7cn4d Месяц назад
Is TYT a big medium or independent journalism?
@linguaphile42
@linguaphile42 Месяц назад
@@user-cr9kj7cn4d You mean NYT? It's the New York Times. Definitely a big meadium.
@suzannederusha1370
@suzannederusha1370 Месяц назад
How fast people jump on the dump Biden wagon over one rough night. I’m guessing that some people might also unsubscribe from podcasts because of the negative reviews on that podcast. Sure President Biden had a rough night, that doesn’t erase everything he’s done.
@RunOfTheHind
@RunOfTheHind Месяц назад
After that performance, no one believes he's got 4.5 years of good nights in him.
@airwindows
@airwindows Месяц назад
Harry is doing better than most at raising some of the huge gotchas and traps behind all this insane talk. He's raised, and had his guests acknowledge, the fact that it is impossible to throw out the whole team and make up a new one without simply failing. It is impossible. Hell, man, the one option I would accept is Harris and she is already there: if the Democrats put in some clown and ditch the team, I will think that Putin got to them, and I would think it was another Potemkin president, and I would be out of there. I'm not going to vote for another Kremlin-run, dirty-trick-installed fake President. I'll be looking for how to attack those who keep doing this, because nothing can be done until that's dealt with, full stop.
@kevinvegas1916
@kevinvegas1916 Месяц назад
@@RunOfTheHind thank God nobody GAF what you think 🤡
@mawicks0910
@mawicks0910 Месяц назад
Nobody is questioning everything he's done. That's not the point. The point is whether he has the wherewithal to do the job for another 4.5 years. It's likely not just "one rough night." He's not getting any younger.
@gasovensforqcult
@gasovensforqcult Месяц назад
You are correct that Biden has done well as president. He originally stated he would be a one term president because he knew he would be too old. He is experiencing senility in office as Reagan did. He is now more flawed as a candidate - not a failure as president - than HRC was. She couldn't win swing voters and now CNN reports 72% of voters say Biden is unelectable. The writing is on the wall. Are you senile too? Get the clue and support whoever replaces Biden. If he isn't replaced our Democracy is lost and America will be a fascist state. Is that what you want?
@martiwilliams4592
@martiwilliams4592 Месяц назад
Painful/horrifying/ terrifying. Exhausting. Thanks to all of you for your courage. Please continue to tell it like it is. Respect. Please stay safe. From Denmark, an ally of the USA.
@dlcs1406
@dlcs1406 Месяц назад
Okay heard enough if you people can't put this in context. He had just completed two not one but two trips from here across the Atlantic and back, D-Day and the G7, kept up with his duties when he was here, had a bad cold which sounded like bronchitis in North Carolina and the debate was way too late at night. Anybody here ever have that kind of exhausting 2 weeks? I say we give this President some credit!
@phillparkinson4671
@phillparkinson4671 Месяц назад
Exactly- it’s ridiculous- very easy to demand his removal without even a *thought about how he could be successfully replaced 🙄
@denkerdunsmuir3370
@denkerdunsmuir3370 Месяц назад
100% my response. I also factored the possible impact of Hunter's trial and conviction -- his only living child. I know he's tough, but all these factors put together with with having a cold, and a staff that wouldn't play to his strengths and filled him with talking points that boomeranged on them and on us! That said if the press, etc. have all been covering the decline and lying either covertly or overtly to the public, then the hiccup at the Thursday, June 28th debate, gave you all a chance to get out from behind the failure to disclose. Otherwise, as I commented Thursday night, it was a bad 90 minutes in a long career. And, we need to get to picking ourselves up and getting back to work to get out the vote and bring Blue thru in November. ❤❤❤❤
@gasovensforqcult
@gasovensforqcult Месяц назад
Your excuses and willingness to ignore reality will cost America it's democracy. This was a deal killer for attracting swing voters. Stop being Pollyanish
@scout3444
@scout3444 Месяц назад
I so agree! And why in the world was this 1st debate date chosen knowing he was coming off previous grueling schedule.
@dlouise5680
@dlouise5680 Месяц назад
Yes!! Exactly right - the President’s schedule these past 2 weeks was known way ahead by his campaign staff. Why schedule a debate right after 2 very important European trips? They should have anticipated the President would be tired. He got sick, also easy to anticipate after international travel. And then they wore him out more with a packed schedule & too much debate preparation. Our President should never have been expected to debate a malignant liar and bully, to begin with.
@kathya1321
@kathya1321 Месяц назад
Ok Im done after 2 minutes. It’s Monday and I’ve heard enough gloom & doom. Onward!
@craigshagin5506
@craigshagin5506 Месяц назад
I think President Biden, as President, had done an excellent job. I personally like him. I hope he does not run. He is absolutely right that democracy is on the line and we can’t afford to lose it. I do not know what will happen at an open convention. But we have no choice at this point if we do not want a psychopath bent on retribution in the White House. Too much is at stake to not think hard about our choices.
@umanathan7722
@umanathan7722 Месяц назад
Today's session was very informative and it was nice to hear different honest views and suggestions.Much appreciated.
@davidmolina7543
@davidmolina7543 Месяц назад
Absolutely
@clindsay8362
@clindsay8362 Месяц назад
Where’s your nerve? Now is not the time to lose it.
@RunOfTheHind
@RunOfTheHind Месяц назад
We're going to 'nerve' ourselves right into a 2nd Trump presidency by sticking with Biden.
@catherinekasmer9905
@catherinekasmer9905 Месяц назад
This is not a game. We need someone with the mental competency to run effectively and to handle the serious issues of the presidency>
@anonymous_idontreplylmaous72
@anonymous_idontreplylmaous72 Месяц назад
Biden is going nowhere get over it
@laurac56
@laurac56 Месяц назад
Usually love this channel, but skipping this one. I choose not to listen to Biden negativity. There’s enough negativity in this era.
@carolbulmer8253
@carolbulmer8253 Месяц назад
Harry, I generally like these Monday debates, BUT I don’t like all the negative comments about Biden’s debate!!
@andreaperry938
@andreaperry938 Месяц назад
Same here.
@RunOfTheHind
@RunOfTheHind Месяц назад
Did you watch the debate?
@catherinekasmer9905
@catherinekasmer9905 Месяц назад
I’m grateful they have the courage to tell the truth.
@KarmaMilitia
@KarmaMilitia Месяц назад
Ignoring the elephant in the room is kinda what brought us here though, isn’t it? No one is saying Biden is ‘a bad guy’ (no one can: he’s awesome), but having a honest conversation about how he does his job is certainly aloud? There is SO much at stake here…
@gasovensforqcult
@gasovensforqcult Месяц назад
Truth hurts, huh? The reality is this was a catastrophe that Biden won't be able to overcome. He is now a flawed candidate - not president - but, candidate. Just like HRC was flawed by being so polarizing and conniving with the DNC to marginalize Bernie. If the power structure would have let the base decide Bernie, which was going to happen, trump would have never been elected and Bernie would have been and we wouldn't be in this position today
@Droogs_OTR
@Droogs_OTR Месяц назад
This isn't a problem of "just one bad debate." This has been a pervasive, ongoing concern among a lot of voters. This isn't even about Biden, it's about saving the rest of us from a fascist uprising.
@gasovensforqcult
@gasovensforqcult Месяц назад
Thank you! But getting through to these hillarybots is impossible. They lost us the election in 2016 and if they don't see the writing on the wall now, they will not only lose us the election but our democracy
@CreekInTheOzarks
@CreekInTheOzarks Месяц назад
The DNC is going all in. The corporate media are all in lockstep with them. Project 2025 is going to make life hard for many democrats. We need to prepare for this eventuality.
@joancooney7724
@joancooney7724 Месяц назад
Troll 🧌
@davidmolina7543
@davidmolina7543 Месяц назад
Speaking truth to power.
@elizabethsohler6516
@elizabethsohler6516 Месяц назад
If we don't stand with Biden, that's exactly what we'll get.
@susierock8229
@susierock8229 Месяц назад
Really Harry???? I'm disappointed in you. First of all, of course Andrea Mitchell is calling for Joe to step down even though she stumbles over her words at least as bad as Biden. He was sick, he felt like shit but still went to work. He had a bad night. Plus, why wasn't his mic turned up?? Maybe you should all be calling for Trump to step down. And Charlie Sykes can eff right off too. I'm done with all of you.
@LiamRappaport
@LiamRappaport Месяц назад
He lost the swing voters with his performance in the debate. It doesn’t matter if true believers such as yourself are still behind him. Dems needs the swing voters to win in Nov.
@airwindows
@airwindows Месяц назад
Slow your roll, at least Harry had the wits to invoke the absolute trainwreck and disastrousness of doing what these people blithely suggest. He did ask them 'how do you think that is supposed to even work'. I'd have liked to see someone like Michael Steele, Rick Wilson etc. on there to slap back, because taking bad faith argument seriously is a disservice to us all.
@joancooney7724
@joancooney7724 Месяц назад
Well said Susie, I’m disgusted with them too
@themystic1938
@themystic1938 Месяц назад
This is all crap. The ONLY way we're going to hang on to Democracy is to vote for President Biden.
@jedheart8059
@jedheart8059 Месяц назад
Yes! Biden called Trump a Liar many times. You cannot waste energy to call out and argue each single lie when the lies were streaming like a water fall.
@rudycandu1633
@rudycandu1633 Месяц назад
You will NOT get enough votes.
@jodywho6696
@jodywho6696 Месяц назад
I guess Im skipping this too. I believe Biden had rough night. Debatting a child out of control. He is a gentleman. I did not make 2 min of the actual debate. I could feel it was bad. Im riden with Biden✨🇺🇸✨💙✨💃✨
@robertadaversa2503
@robertadaversa2503 Месяц назад
Yes, an open convention would invigorate the party and the interested citizens. I see no down side at all.
@moshecristel
@moshecristel Месяц назад
34:52 I agree, Harry. "That fresh face might have been roughed up a fair bit" You don't underestimate the risk of an open convention and I appreciate that.
@trudiekitty
@trudiekitty Месяц назад
I can’t even watch this. Glad I don’t have to worry about you having my back, Harry.
@candygram4435
@candygram4435 Месяц назад
Stop! I’m more disappointed in you than I was in the debate!
@robertadaversa2503
@robertadaversa2503 Месяц назад
Dems had 4 years to figure out a plan B. This is unforgivable. But par for the course with Dems. Unbelievable. I will vote Blue no matter who is the candidate. It's not about me. It's about the average, uniformed American voter .
@marcinna8553
@marcinna8553 Месяц назад
Exactly. True-blue Democrats will vote for Biden regardless, swing voters will not.
@noreenconstantine4612
@noreenconstantine4612 Месяц назад
Biden was very tired and had been practicing a lot so it's not a surprise that his voice was weak. I understood his sentences, even the ones that got curved around
@Jan-zv7ze
@Jan-zv7ze Месяц назад
President BIDEN is SMARTER than Trump and I saw that in the debate.
@avatar25001
@avatar25001 Месяц назад
"He beat medicare"
@jonagustreynisson3697
@jonagustreynisson3697 Месяц назад
Hi Harry... For the first, this is overblown, then, this discussion was current 3 days ago, not in my play queue on Sunday night or Monday morning. Go Biden... Love your channel... Go Harry...
@turtleswatter21
@turtleswatter21 Месяц назад
The debate happened Thursday. Since then Biden did a powerful speech at Carolina and has met with donors. We have had polls showing the effect hasn't been so bad and people discussing with calmer minds have explored the possibilities of how Biden could step down and what could happen next. For the first time I find myself listening to the guests and being reminded of headless chickens. This never happens on a Talking Feds podcast - maybe you'd have been better just cutting that bit. Yes, the debate was awful and disconcerting, but the fall out will take weeks to work out. In the meantime Joe needs to be doing a lot of media and showing the energy he had in Carolina, while we look at all our options. I'm not so concerned that he needs a prompter. I remember George W giving a stinker of a speech without one. Most politicians can't tie their shoelaces without one.
@gasovensforqcult
@gasovensforqcult Месяц назад
CNN published a poll Sunday night: 72% of voters say Biden is unelectable now. This was a catastrophe. Open your eyes
@millrace32
@millrace32 Месяц назад
notice how none of the people trying to oust biden on these podcsts or in the media are genuinely putting together what happened. 1) the moderators didn't moderate. they just posed questions, which trump was free to answer, or not answer, any way he wanted. 2) the failure to moderate meant biden's answers became even more fragmented than usual. we know that adults who stuttered as children learned to manage the stutters with mental & rhetorical cues & by fragmenting answers to questions. we see biden's cues all the time. when he starts to stammer, he'll say something like, 'well look that's not the point,' or 'don't get me started.' we saw him having to over-use these in the debate because of the lack of moderation. 3) biden had a 'can you believe this guy?' face at the ready for when trump was ranting, allowing him - biden - to remain silent but showing incredulity to trump's response. the biden make-up / fillers / eye-brow-threading made the incredulity-face appear like the lost-face, compounded by biden over-using it
@susansprague7304
@susansprague7304 Месяц назад
It' always good to hear Charlie! I would recommend Rick Wilson's latest piece on The Lincoln Project channel as a less bed-wetty slant on the debate and a future path.
@urkiddingme6254
@urkiddingme6254 Месяц назад
That. Yes. And also Lawrence O'Donnell's piece that came out around the same time. Title is something like "we live in a country where a liar is declared the debate winner" He starts out with "almost nobody watched the debate ..."
@nunofyrbusiness8576
@nunofyrbusiness8576 Месяц назад
Stop being so hyperbolic regarding the debate. It’s not helpful
@pauljarine
@pauljarine Месяц назад
SCOTUS just gave the president partial immunity. The country is f’d.
@stevenmcvay5193
@stevenmcvay5193 Месяц назад
When Biden saves the world in November AGAIN i propose a spot on mount Rushmore for the saviour of the free world.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@MichaelBrueckner
@MichaelBrueckner Месяц назад
Debates are not part of a President's job. Joe Biden has proved that he is capable to comply with most if not all of the requirements of POTUS.. Vote blue, or do you welcome Trump's Project 2025?
@jaelo2314
@jaelo2314 Месяц назад
Biden has since held a high-energy, humbling rally. He has diplomatic power across the globe. Sit down, y'all.
@bmohin
@bmohin Месяц назад
a coherent sentence is part of the potus’ job. i will never vote for Trump or stay home, but he should not be the candidate. He has done a great job. should have passed the baton. both candidates are wsy too old. and one is batshit crazy.
@arlandirkson6024
@arlandirkson6024 Месяц назад
Debates are not part of a president's job, you're right. But they ARE a part of getting (re)elected.
@MichaelBrueckner
@MichaelBrueckner Месяц назад
@@arlandirkson6024 They really aren't. Ask Prof. Allan Lichtman.
@arlandirkson6024
@arlandirkson6024 Месяц назад
@MichaelBrueckner when the main question surrounding Biden for swing voters who will decide this election is his age, I would argue the debate matters. But we will see when good polling becomes available. (Just don't think this instance is very comparable to the past given those concerns.)
@robertadaversa2503
@robertadaversa2503 Месяц назад
In five words, the debate was: a turning point, either way.
@jimcox8391
@jimcox8391 Месяц назад
All of you talking heads were the ones that were losing your minds. I have always watched your station because I thought you were up on everything, but the way you let our President down was terrible. You can rest assured I will NEVER watch again.
@user-ee5yk4fz2f
@user-ee5yk4fz2f Месяц назад
Well done Harry, another great program and hitting 200K subscribers - congratulations from markc listening from australia
@razdog76
@razdog76 Месяц назад
Biggest issue I see with Chevron that the Jordans, Boeberts, and Greenes cannot take time off from buffoonery to legislate. This could cause a vapor lock within a couple case decisions because of difficulties in governing details.
@dm-31024
@dm-31024 Месяц назад
But is there someone else that the whole country knows & could believe in at this point who is younger & vibrant and could beat the criminal?
@GypsySoul2023
@GypsySoul2023 Месяц назад
Disappointed in you, Harry, and your choice of guests. I stand with Biden, not the pathological liar!
@catrantery
@catrantery Месяц назад
Arrhggh what was Biden supposed to do? Be trump's foil and fact check every lie? How tf is that a debate?
@RunOfTheHind
@RunOfTheHind Месяц назад
That's precisely what a debate is. He didn't land ONE punch and even messed up his own points, lol. Wake up.
@talbotcolleen
@talbotcolleen Месяц назад
​@RunOfTheHind ... there were so many lies by Trump that had Biden spending a lof his time trying to debunk and left no time for him to promote his policies precisely what I thought debates were about.
@RunOfTheHind
@RunOfTheHind Месяц назад
@@talbotcolleen Did you actually watch the debate?
@marcinna8553
@marcinna8553 Месяц назад
Yes, Biden is supposed to be Trump's foil and call out his lies.
@talbotcolleen
@talbotcolleen Месяц назад
@@RunOfTheHind ... I most certainly did. Your reply was not helpful in the least. It would have been more constructive had you said what you disagreed to about my comment.
@JuliaJulia007
@JuliaJulia007 Месяц назад
I hope Jill and Nancy help Joe bow out with dignity and grace. Thank you for your service, Joe the GOAT.
@coffeekittie
@coffeekittie Месяц назад
Good to see Charlie again.
@jodywho6696
@jodywho6696 Месяц назад
Thank you Harry✨🇺🇸✨💙✨
@robertadaversa2503
@robertadaversa2503 Месяц назад
Great podcast! Thank you.
@lindabruce4899
@lindabruce4899 Месяц назад
Shame on you Harry for putting more negativity on Bidens back!
@jeremiahchamberlin4499
@jeremiahchamberlin4499 Месяц назад
Although I was horrified by Biden’s performance, it’s not enough for me to change my vote. As enamored as I am with the THOUGHT of an open convention, considering the REALITY of same gives me pause. It would indeed be a free-for-all, and I’m not sure the party, or the eventual candidate, would emerge stronger as a result. (1) The timeline for the campaign would be shortened [ala Hubert Humphrey in ‘68], (2) If Kamala Harris is not accorded the ‘respect’ of a candidacy, a cornerstone of the party’s would be fractured, (3) those attending a convention are the party faithful, the same ones who vote in part primaries, in other words, the extremists would be over-represented versus the more moderate, centrist, less involved persons who represent the majority of voters (at least before Trump happened). We need to remember why the nation moved from conventions to primaries in the first place (television media being a big part as well, I believe). On the other hand, it might be a good thing to tinker a bit with the process in a way that would allow the party convention to play a significant role in not only constructing the party’s platform, but selecting the candidate as well. Ranked choice voting has its appeal. So to, a fresh face -and vision for the future- would be welcome. In fact, I dare say, that a big part of the frustration voters feel with their current [lack of] choice is that both alternatives are rather backward looking; Trump wants to renew his attack on Democracy and will spend most of every waking moment plotting revenge upon his opponents/persecutors dating to 2020 and beyond; Biden reassures that the status quo will remain ‘steady at the helm.’ I can only imagine the desperation young persons must feel watching the climate change before our eyes, housing market tied up in knots by monied interests, the growing, even accelerating, disparities between rich and poor. The American Dream is under a host of threats, our government, particularly Congress, but now even the Supreme Court, seems either unwilling, or unable to stem the tide, and at times seems to be opening the flood gates. But insulin is now $35 a dose. We’ve lost our way, in part because we’re more likely to ask [or demand] what our country can do for us; but also because our leaders have not asked us to do something for our country, they all seem bent on ‘delivering’ to their constituencies because they’re not asking themselves the same question [‘what can we do for our country?’] many of them. The Book of Proverbs said it well [in condemning leaders], “Without vision the people perish.” We’re dying for lack of vision. We’re closing our eyes to reality; our ‘head in the sand’ mentality will wind up biting us in the behind. Off my soapbox. Have a good day/week.
@denised3139
@denised3139 Месяц назад
A great panel.
@georgenegoodstein4196
@georgenegoodstein4196 Месяц назад
Pile on guys.
@amyferebee
@amyferebee Месяц назад
Thanks, as always
@LiamRappaport
@LiamRappaport Месяц назад
The problem with waiting until the convention to choose a new guy is, isn’t the Ohio deadline before the convention? Do you really want Ohio voters to HAVE TO write in whatever Dem candidate to vote for them? Pretty dangerous when voters may just vote by party.
@paulasharp4475
@paulasharp4475 Месяц назад
Nobody is looking at the actual content of what he said and what he has accomplished. It's one debate.
@tekkhero9767
@tekkhero9767 Месяц назад
Thanks Harry! Keep doing what you do!
@davidmolina7543
@davidmolina7543 Месяц назад
That’s right. We don’t like hearing the truth.
@rayvandiest3988
@rayvandiest3988 Месяц назад
As a voter, forced to choose between two weak elder candidates, I'll vote for the honest & principled Patriot over the self-interested cheater and convict. And...I have a hope that most voters will make the same calculation. Buck Up, Joe!!
@EldenCrazy
@EldenCrazy Месяц назад
I'm a proud Biden voter 🌊
@elizabethsohler6516
@elizabethsohler6516 Месяц назад
Thank you.
@uubuuh
@uubuuh Месяц назад
One line of this age which continues to resonate, to me, is back when Jeb! in a primary debate, exasperated, asked only partly rhetorically, "Are we doing this??". "This" being Trump lying and insanity. I forget the specifics, but the answer, to this day, is "yes, we are doing this". CNN thinks so. The Supreme court thinks so. MAGA world thinks so. President Biden does not think so, but was not able to improvise well enough to "debate" the point in the current truth-irrelevant format.
@bradmurphy3206
@bradmurphy3206 Месяц назад
I'm generally a fan of Talking Feds and the Bulwark, but I didn't make it halfway through this exercise in tabloid journalism. Sorry, Harry.
@darlenekelly4613
@darlenekelly4613 Месяц назад
It was one debate. Not like we haven't had bad ones before. Work to get Biden's good work out there, knowing he will do more in the future. Don't hang someone for one night.
@bryan9931
@bryan9931 Месяц назад
"don't hang someone for one night." Is what Trump said to Melania concerning Stormy Daniels.
@reginacaron9484
@reginacaron9484 Месяц назад
What debate did these people watch? Yes it was bad, but no where near as bad as they are professing.
@theh.o.p.e.channelwhoyouar7614
@theh.o.p.e.channelwhoyouar7614 Месяц назад
Why does his handlers let him go on unbelievable that put their own powerful positions in front of the country
@GeorgeBenedictBaldwin
@GeorgeBenedictBaldwin Месяц назад
What is this the Court of Debbie Doubters?
@dianadeane9233
@dianadeane9233 Месяц назад
Jamie Raskin?? I love the guy- but we need a beeper to go off every time trump tells a lie- it’s too exhausting and time consumed by otherwise and whatever candidate you have will be overwhelmed😊
@beefeekeefee
@beefeekeefee Месяц назад
The sad part about this discussion is this. Let's say the Dem's pull Biden off the ballot and replace him with Harris, or Whitmer, or Newsome or Shapiro. The truth is that each of the three esteemed guest panelists on this podcast, as well as all of their colleagues, have notebooks full of negative trash talking to dive into on any one of the possible replacements. All in the name of clicks, ratings, readers, watchers, etc. I'll tell you what, should Trump be allowed to sit in the White House again, there's a whole s**t ton of things "nobody has ever seen or heard before" that are going to happen. Thanks guys...
@sansserif8839
@sansserif8839 Месяц назад
Good points! 💙
@Bookworm-wq6ub
@Bookworm-wq6ub Месяц назад
I wouldn’t listen to Andrea Mitchell about age and performance with someone else’s ears. Biden is our nominee get over it.
@ngrovotny
@ngrovotny Месяц назад
It's a bit insulting to imply that "passing over" Kamala Harris is an unthinkable option. She's the VP. She'd be the second greatest player involved in the decision.
@bmohin
@bmohin Месяц назад
for some reason, she is not well liked.
@ngrovotny
@ngrovotny Месяц назад
@@bmohin That's really not the point, though. Some talking head says the Dems can't "pass over" a Black woman, but she's a person, not an object. It seems pretty racist to imply that she wouldn't be involved in the decision-making. She's the VP, and she could obviously decide for herself whether she'd be a good candidate if Biden decided to leave the race.
@millrace32
@millrace32 Месяц назад
who on the panel was pushing back against the attempt to oust biden?
@airwindows
@airwindows Месяц назад
Harry was asking smart questions that don't usually get asked of these people, like 'how even is that supposed to work' and 'who the heck are you even talking about'. He asked 'em a little more politely than that, mind you.
@kneedrabell4862
@kneedrabell4862 Месяц назад
Congrats Mr. Litman with your 200K subs!🎉
@beckyweisfeld6977
@beckyweisfeld6977 Месяц назад
The idea of an open convention just feels so refreshingly small d democratic.
@urkiddingme6254
@urkiddingme6254 Месяц назад
Odd you would have Andrea Mitchell talking on this particular topic given how many viewers are calling for her to step down, because she stumbles through every sentence on her newscasts. I agree with Ron Filipkowski's headline: "For the Good of the Country, It's Time for Some Pundits to Retire" I still support Biden.
@c.m.r.6509
@c.m.r.6509 Месяц назад
The least of our expectations should be having a candidate that can form a simple coherent sentence. The man I saw shouldn’t be President much less our choice for 2024. He must step aside! Save his legacy and our country.
@user-up8db5nr2u
@user-up8db5nr2u Месяц назад
I feel like we’re going back in history and the King still holds the throne and his minions rule be the Church
@johnellington1932
@johnellington1932 Месяц назад
Think we need Big Convention entire Country.
@paulgainey4924
@paulgainey4924 Месяц назад
Its refreshing to listen to such open and honest discussion on Biden's predicament.. i have no idea how this will play out but its holding everyone's attention
@airwindows
@airwindows Месяц назад
Wouldn't it be interesting if there was the same about Trump's predicament? Shouldn't he resign and make way for the clearly more dangerous and electable Nikki Haley? They'd still be riding their 2025 thing, but with a candidate who's not a multiple felon and not a madman.
@denisecrawford5289
@denisecrawford5289 Месяц назад
First of all Andrea Mitchell has no place on this show. Nobody bumbles and fumbles as much as she does. I’ll listen to the rest.
@amyfrueh4808
@amyfrueh4808 29 дней назад
Why is no one bringing up Michelle Obama? Brilliant, measured, known, qualified. She has polled above Newsom as recently as this spring
@jennamakesbugs
@jennamakesbugs Месяц назад
People in these comments have clearly never seen a once vital and vigorous elderly parent suddenly go downhill after hitting a minor bump in the road. The good days become fewer and far between. Joe Biden does not deserve to have the weight of the entire country on his shoulders at his age and current condition. Let's pay him the respect of letting him go out with his accomplishments and his dignity still mostly intact.
@joancooney7724
@joancooney7724 Месяц назад
How Dare you tell people what they should think or feel, if Jill Biden or others Close to the President felt he should step down then he will , Biden also has a large Administration or did you think it was a one man government
@jennamakesbugs
@jennamakesbugs Месяц назад
@@joancooney7724 We have to win for any of those people to be an administration. We have got to stop with the cope and look at this realistically. How are we morally better than the Republicans if we refuse to do the right thing and choose a different leader?
@sansserif8839
@sansserif8839 Месяц назад
@@jennamakesbugs Morality has nothing to do with it. Biden is the candidate; he and his people will act as they see fit. He won the nomination. It's out of our hands. I still support Biden.
@jennamakesbugs
@jennamakesbugs Месяц назад
@@sansserif8839 It should. We should expect better. We should stop with the cope and telling each other what we want to hear and be realistic. We need a strong leader and we need to take this burden off of the shoulders of a good man who has done all that he can do. We need to stop telling ourselves that chaos and instability will somehow turn out to be a successful presidential term. Not to mention... the official Dem presidential nomination doesn't happen until August.
@1indefinitetruth
@1indefinitetruth Месяц назад
if biden goes, trumps ass better leave too
@hayhayc1981
@hayhayc1981 Месяц назад
I think all you downers on President Biden are so off. I'M grass roots. So don't tell me how grass roots responded. That debate changed nothing for me. And I think letting optics overcome substance is a tragedy in our modern society. I also think dividing the Democratic Party like this only serves to give Trump a greater chance of victory. Which is horrifying. I would never think it was possible if it hadn't already happened once.
@susanhenry6834
@susanhenry6834 Месяц назад
Need you on Harry right now! SC decision to be explained. Please asap!
@dizzolve
@dizzolve Месяц назад
yeah but Trump is not your guy so no matter WHO you put in - ........
@airwindows
@airwindows Месяц назад
There is no reason for it not to be Biden. Kamala Harris is already Vice President and privy to what goes on, she is already in the loop. They are busy, let them work. Look at what the Biden team has been able to pull off so far.
@brendalong3852
@brendalong3852 Месяц назад
Sounds like a bunch of Trump reporters. If every president that bobbled a debate had this support, no president would be reelected.
@bmohin
@bmohin Месяц назад
it was more than bobbled.
@RayKosby
@RayKosby Месяц назад
Charlie should consider what the judges and justices have been ruling on lately, starting with abortion, I think they show what a lack of expertise produces. I think corporations more than legal scholars were behind the effort to rip up the administrative state. Will the courts and politicians be accountable to the people given they lack of campaign finance restrictions now in place? I think they are more responsive to corporations today and Loper Bright just made that worse.
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