Dabura Vs Super Perfect Cell: Who Would Win? 

He's not that guy, pal

Im pretty sure he did that already

@@rowan2445 no sir that’s cap

A bit a bit more than 400× base gohan ,

@@rodneysimpson11 how is that the same thing with what I'm asking?

Another question, if Guru unlocked Gohan's hidden potential during the Namek arc, then did Gohan's potential go dormant again thereby requiring the Elder Kai to unlock it again?

classic anime viewer with their misconceptions cause of filler. cell only has frieza, cold, piccolo, goku, and vegeta cells.

​@@asianpersuasion4901Goku alone knows all those techniques so it doesn't really matter

This statement is just flat out wrong. Cell has the cells of Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Frieza, and King Cold confirmed and canon by the manga. He also MIGHT (but probably doesnt) have the Cells of Tien and Krillen (and some other earthly fighters only), as this was stated in the English dub specifically (and only there) and there is debatable evidence in the anime only to support it, such as Cell using a techniques that Tien is famous for, albeit Piccolo also knows Multiform; and the Destructo Disc is Krillen's signature move. HOWEVER, use of those techniques DOES NOT indicate they are from their cells, but rather Cell has learned them, as multiple beings have been shown being able to use multiple techniques in general; ones like them or those same techniques. ALSO, these techniques used by Cell are anime only aka Filler... They were not used by him in the manga. So, if you're someone who subscribes to the notion that Manga>Anime, this is a losing battle for you this time. Edit: fixed grammar.

@@Alex-dr6or goku doesn't know cloning. neither does piccolo or krillin or cell.

Piccilo and Krillin can use the multi form technique too just like Tien The former two did so against Nappa It’s just the form decreases your overall power by half for each clone you make so why it’s not good to use against a stronger opponent or someone on your level

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The manga is the true dragonball experience. The anime is amazing but the manga flows perfectly for the most part and gets to the point. The 5 minutes namek meme is because of anime filler. The fight seems way faster in the manga for example. The art is very consistent as well. There are color versions of the first two dbz arcs that are great too. Not sure about the rest of the series having color.

@@CPhelps1247 Bruh 🤣

I always believed him to be stronger than cell and on ssj2 cell arc Gohan level.

@@justinarzola4584If that was that case Dabura would have dominated Gohan!

@@blaketindle4703 a fight with dabura and cell arc ssj2 Gohan would have either been a tie or dabura out matching him since they would be equal in power.

@DynastyZwarrior90 i think it is irrelevant. Darbura is know like a Majin character. How strong he was before the Majin boost, doesn't change nothing. It's much more a useless curiosity.

​@justinarzola4584 not at all. Kid Gohan would dog walk Dabura. SPC would dog walk Dabura. Dabura has to be one of the most arrogant villains ever and it doesn't bode well that he doesn't have a complete grasp on how strong the Saiyan trio is. That doesn't speak to him being on par with the SSJ2 power.

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@@5Ci0N "And the prodigal asshole returns" Seriously dude, you're here, you're on his video. Did you REALLY come here JUST to shit on this?

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If he figured out how to do that safely after the 1st time he could just spam the move , even if the explosion doesnt hurt Dabura enough Zenkai boosts would give Cell the win

@@shadowmaverick15 wouldn't the move blow up the entire planet If cell blew up? Not sure if Dabura can breathe in space and even if he could I'm sure he wouldn't walk away unscratched.

Couldn’t Dabura just turn him into stone before he blows up?

@@youtubestudiosucks978 idk about that you’re assuming a lot, it’s magic and it happens almost instantly

​@@jiveequation1865well cell could probably blow up before he turns to stone

If Dabura spit on him Cell can cut his body parts and regenerate

How many times can he spit before his mouth goes dry?

LightningMuhQween Or he could just his mouth flame breath to melt cell point blank.

⁠@@ilyas_elouchihi Regeneration is still a small drain on Cell’s Ki. Although I don’t think Dabura lands more than one spit in that fight once Cell figured out what’s going on.

@@ilyas_elouchihi Regeneration is useless against Dabura. It takes so long that Dabura would just turn the rest into stone long before the regeneration is complete.

You must be kidding me. His regeneration ability alone and the fact that he knows all the techniques the other fighters use is something puts the Z fighters at a greater disadvantage compared to Dabura.

@@codesm96 Dabura's greatest trump card is his stone spit. Its pretty a much a one-shot kill.

By being a clown

You don't know what you're talking about..... Cell had no idea what Zenkai boost was or is. That was something the Z fighters learned about in space and ONLY then. Gero's computer couldn't know specifically the details or how it works, because the drone wasn't there. Heck, it even missed A LOT of information when they got back to earth. He does not get zenkai boost in a normal way, as if he did, being hit by Vegeta's Final Flash and Goku's Instant Kamehameha would have given him one as they were mortal wounds. And they did not. Cell ONLY got it from attempting to kill himself which IS NOT how Zenkai works, as stated by Vegeta (self inflicting wounds does not cause it). His recombinant genetic code or gero's computer's work resulted in it working this way specifically. So relying on Zekai boost to win is totally out of the question for Cell entirely..... I mean, he doesn't even know if he COULD self-destruct again and come back from it. Literally none of us do. It's a huge gamble to risk. For all we know, it was a one time deal... Also, just like many others, you have a fundamental misunderstanding on how Dabura's spit works. When it lands of the skin, the entire body starts to change instantly. This is CLEARLY seen with Piccolo and Krillen. Gohan's got it on his glove, which is why he himself did not turn to stone. Cell wouldn't even have reaction time to "lob off his head". And even if he did, having to regenerate his entire body would drain a MASSIVE amount of energy from him... Lastly, Dabura is a well versed fighter. I think many forget that he's the king of the demon realm THROUGH FORCE aka he fought his way to the top and remains there. His experience is battle is beyond Cell's by leagues. Cell was made specifically to combat the Z fighters, and has been proven VERY ineffective when encountering something he has no prior knowledge about, such as SSJ, or Ki techniques he has never seen before. And he certainly has ZERO experience with magic.... or even fighters that use weapons. Not to mention Cell is WAAAAAAAY more prideful and arrogant than Dabura by a country mile. He VERY much overestimates himself/is very overconfident. Dabura can be cocky, but he is also extremely rational and will quickly correct himself if he's ever wrong (as he did with Buu, something he is famously remembered for by fans for warning Babidi about). Not to mention, still to this day, we've never seen Dabura go all out. He still held back in the anime, and in the Manga, he didn't even break a sweat. Literally called Gohan trash after fighting him....I don't think he was being overconfident there at all.....As we've established, he is cocky but rational....

It was interesting to me despite being under Babidi’s influence, Dabura was able to keep rational thought and debate his master on how dangerous Buu was He only underestimated Buu at the start (just like Gohan did) beceuse Buu didn’t power up. Base state, Buu can be a weakling (as Goku and Vegeta at their full powers weren’t impressed at first either, meaning Buu before powering up was weaker than a ssj2), but can power up suddenly and very fast, as Gohan instantly went from tryna fight him to running away. Dabura found out too late too once his eyes got poked but understood as well Buu was not weakling

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​@@TheMissingLink2 The only reason this is even a debate is because Goku compares the two directly. More specifically a statement that Debora is as strong as Cell. Goku then later saying he's stronger than initially thought, therefore he should be above Cell. I don't think this applies to SPC, because the Gohan that fought Cell is not only more powerful than the Gohan fighting Debora, but Gohan was countering all of Debora's hacks/tactics. This same Gohan is weaker than the Gohan from the Cell Saga due to not having the rage behind his power. Goku even notes Gohan would need the rage to return to his prime and Vegeta just simply says he isn't the same as when he was a child. There is an argument for Gohan getting strong in the Buu saga after Kabito healed him. People will go as far as to say this applies to Teen Gohan and means Adult Buu Saga Gohan after being healed by Kabito > SSJ2 Gohan. But the statement is so vague and can be interpreted in many ways instead of just saying "He's stronger than his teen self" because Vegeta still says he's trash compared to his teen self after this. So that argument doesn't hold water and at best means he's just stronger than he was at the start of the Buu saga who can combat Debora in a "high-diff' fight when apparently he's meditating and powering up beforehand. And Debora's statement about being confident about being able to fight Goku and Vegeta doesn't work, because 1: Gohan was still doing decent against him anyway and 2: Debora was down to fight Majin Buu, so his confidence literally means nothing. What you don't understand is feats > statements. You can say Gohan was weakened when defeating Cell, but he gets power amps from Goku stated multiple times. (Vol. 35/ Chapter 415 for source.) Cell was legit beating Gohan until Gohan caught him by surprise thanks to Vegeta attacking him. It is also stated in the daizenshuu. (This is the manga stating this, not a character.) That SPC is the strongest being at this time, including SSJ2 Gohan. And to back this up even more, Cell bullies Grade 4 Gohan in terms of full power and Gohan cannot beat him in any way without his rage boost or SSJ2. Even when semi enraged in SSJ, Cell is letting Gohan hit him and Cell is still not taking any damage. After the self-destruct and reformation, Cell states he got a powerup similar to that of SSJ2 Gohan. This makes sense, because Cell does have Saiyain cells in him and it's already a debate to say if Cell can even go SSJ or not. So to say that SPC is a relative amp to that of SSJ2 doesn't contradict anything, because pre SSJ2 amp, Cell was already above Gohan and now it's still the same, just them in SSJ2. So let me make this easy for you. That means Cell scales above a Gohan who's stronger than himself at the start of the Buu Saga that's relative to Debora. Cell > SSJ2 Teen Gohan > Starting Buu Saga Gohan >~< Deborah, so Cell is mopping the floor with Deborah. So let me reiterate my original comment. THE STONE SPIT IS DEBORA's ONLY WIN CONDITION. You claim "The entire body starts to change instantly" But unfortunately for the manga here, we don't know how much time passes in between panels. Any other medium depicts the characters with a few seconds to say gross before the petrification happens. Any interactions between the two after that is head-cannon at best. Cell still has the versatility advantage and can regenerate from almost anything, he needs atomized to be stopped. I like Debora, his character design is sick and he has one of the more interesting movesets of anyone in DBZ we've seen, I wish we got more of him, which from the looks of it, Toriyama is finally giving the man some much needed screen time. Unfortunately, he gets destroyed as is and gets sidelined for Majin Buu.

What if he keeps spitting multiple times

Buu is almost like a gag character. He has far too many hax abilities that make him an unfair opponent to fight.

Possibly. However, I've experimented using music with my current style during the editing process and don't believe it flows as well compared to with my previous style. So, I'm going to continue without it for the time being.

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IMO depends totally on if Cell knows beforehand about Dabura's spit. Dabura gets a cheap shot in on that and it's over. If Cell knows to look out for that that gets different pretty quickly.

Absolutely

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@pattersong6637 Cell would just rip off his limb if he saw that he was turning into stone.

He could use tien’s cloning technique.

I'll do another one eventually. Already have tons of videos planned and scheduled out, so I'll have to figure out the exact timing.

Oh okay, I was just curious. I'll probably participate in the next one lol. Do you still have a Twitter? I used your link in older videos and it says the account doesn't exist.

No, I deleted my Twitter years ago. I do have an Instagram though which you can find in this video description.

I already followed it the other day. Good on you though, Twitter is a horrible mess that I stay away from most of the time too

Dabura doesn't have to survive a self-destruct. It takes so long that Dabura would just turn him to stone before he could detonate.

Dabura is at a heavy disadvantage due to all of Cell's inherited abilities. Cell would WRECK Dabura

I think the anime shows Krillin trying to clean the spit with his hand. I might be wrong tho..

I’m late to the party but you can see in the panel before he starts turning to stone that Krillin is trying to wipe the spit off with the back of his hand.

Mike actually changed my mind I understand know that Dabura is slight stronger then cell maybe

You are reaching my guy lol

Ok, then they're not for you so you don't have to worry about them. :)

Boom

All dabura really have to do is use his mouth breath flame to melt cell to easily win.

Dabura has more potential with magic.

@@justinarzola4584 cell can use magic too.

What, exactly, is Cell's win condition?

Doesn't Buu know how to use it also? Buu can copy techniques.

​@@pianoandguitarlover2773 Bu never saw kaioken in bu arc but i think his mimicry cant be done for every tecnique

Not to mention, people seemingly forget that Cell was designed SPECIFICALLY to counter the Z-fighters. He has ZERO experience or knowledge with anyone else or any type of opponent that wasn't on earth. Dabura, on the other hand is the strongest being in the demon realm, who has fought for literally thousands of years against various opponents (not to mention knowledge of beings in the mortal realm).

'You should know that a weapon doesn't make the man' - Future Trunks confronting King Cold. Weapons are obsolete

@@TheMissingLink2 You are the dumbest DBZ fan I have ever seen in my entire life. Frieza, Vegeta, Piccolo and Goku have more than enough fighting intuition and experience, Cell was already an advanced level fighter because of this. How do you think he schooled Trunks and was able to match Goku move for move at half his full power level? His fighting skill is superior because those fighters were special when it came to adapting to any new enemy very quickly ESPECIALLY Goku of all people. Get off Dabura's nuts, he is literally the Dodoria of the Buu saga.

exactly. its a plothole that toriyama made, and the manga is far too vague and confusing. makes 0 sense for goku to compare dabura to semiperfect or suppressed perfect cell. dabura was used as a measuring stick to compare from the previous saga to show how much stronger the villains are now.

​@kiz5562 Dabura is meant as a character to be as strong as the most powerful version of the previous main villain, which was Super Perfect Cell. So that when the new big bad of the new arc Majin Buu flicks Dabura aside like he was nothing, it is to show just how much more powerful the new main villain is compared to the last.

It gives me the jitters.

Might have been too bitter

That isn't Super Perfect Cell. Super Perfect Cell would have EASILY tanked Goku's point blank full power Instant Transmission Kamehameha without needing to regenerate a single body part. Another very stupid DBZ fan who proves he doesn't actually watch the show or understand it properly and is using their own head canon to make stuff up.

Then dabura becomes op af

@@elijahwatjen9839 we don't even know the number of potent magic/demonic abilities Dabura has at his command. What if dude has a spell that gives him a power boost akin to kaioken? Since him and Demigra are potentially the same species of demon, does dude have a monster form that could straight demolish his opponents and warp space-time? There's a lot of wasted potential with Dabura. Should've pulled a Darkseid from DC and explained that the (stereotype lookin ass) demon lord that battled Gohan was one of his "weaker" avatars.

@@blackshogun272 The franchise not exploring the Demon realm in general has been wasted opportunity. There's some story potential in there, but sadly no interest in exploring it.

@@countprophet5881 there's more than enough growing room for new stories and stuff in the Dragon Ball universe(s). At times it feels the franchise is deliberately stalling itself from rising to greater heights.

the manga is still far too vague on how strong dabura really is. its a 50/50 split between fans saying superperfect cell or suppressed cell level. people have debated this online for over a decade

alot of fans online still believe that dabura is only on par with supressed perfect or regular perfect cell. Its a shame that toriyama never clarified in the manga/anime that goku's statement was about SPC.

I think cell could just tear off the affected area of the spit attack and regenerate. On top of that he has instant transmission.

One thing about Cell’s regeneration is that it does lower his power level so against an opponent of relative strength it might lead to Cell being at a disadvantage power wise post regeneration.

If Cell successfully avoids being turned to stone, Dabura won't get a second chance because Cell can just speed blitz him and finish the fight being privy to the danger his spit poses.

Cell is a tier above dabura lol. Dabura is not spc level. Had gohan gone ss2 in the fight with dabura. Dabura would've lost against buu arc gohan with mid to high difficulty.

​@@WaveForcefulThat's true. But they didn't say he was significantly above "perfect cell not spc". In fact, they may have been referring to dabura use of magic + power. Any ss2 beats dabura. He only fought fpssj gohan and did have issues. Albeit holding back.

When in Z? I could see Krillin winning just after Namek given how incredibly much Krillin improved over that time. Ten takes it from the time the Androids arrives to the end of Z because he trains way harder over the 3 year and especially 7 year gaps.

Agree

Pretty much my sentiments exactly.

I'm pretty sure Kid Buu would be classified as a galaxy level buster.

He wasn't just giving Ssj2 Gohan motivation talk. He explicitly knew and stated that Gohan was not using his full power. This is Toriyama we are talking about here, who has no problem giving Goku special abilities. Don't forget all the shit Goku has done in the past like being able to sense people's intentions. And also Toriyama isn't going to purposely confuse readers that Goku's is inaccurately gauging Cell's power levels. Because why the heck is Toriyama going to intentionally confuse people? It should be clear he is referring to Cell's most powerful form.

Gohan had already seen Dabura use his spit technique used prior, not to mention he blocked it with his glove. Moreover Supreme Kai literally yelled at him to warn him about the danger which he had already forgotten about..... Cell doesn't stand a chance.

@@TheMissingLink2 All of Cell's named attacks would kill Dabura. If he gets spit on he'll just blast off the limb. Cell can make barriers too. Saying he "doesn't stand a chance" makes you look slow.

​@@BlackWingedSeraphX Did you even watch this video? Everything you just said is nonsense that is disproved by this very video. lol You're a total fool.

he's ssj2 level striaght up and thanks to vegeta gohan got the kill gave gohan a chance to win that's why goku says "nows your chance"

Cell is just different

Broly didnt get a scratch on him from all the z-fighters attacking him, until goku powered up and made him implode from the ki overload. Broly > SPC ~ Dabura ~ Bojack.

For Goku to reference a suppressed version of Perfect Cell means that it's even more pathetic that Gohan couldn't do more damage to him. Also Goku wants his son to get mad like he did as a child in order to bring forth more power. That wouldn't be needed because Dabura is trash tier even when compared to a suppressed PC.

the manga is way too open-ended and vague. storyline wise, it makes more sense for dabura = spc. but alot of fans are convinced dabura is only suppressed cell level or even lower. i've always believed that goku was referring to the last form of cell we all saw, which was spc. gohan v dabura is basically gohan v cell (round2), except gohan cant beat him since he's weaker since cellsaga.

The limit is that it is presumably relatively slow, if it doesn't hit the head Cell just rips off or blasts away the affected part and regrows the lost part and with Cell even hitting the head isn't as likely to work because he can survive blasting his own head off if he notices the effect soon enough.

either Cell is defeated easily with the spit or cell beats Dabura in a hard long fight

@@SuperbMoves we also know that breaking the statue doesn't kill Piccolo, so it wouldn't kill Cell either. Yes he could just destroy each part of the statue, however he is over confident to just leave them to.

@@shadowcell1184 thats true Cell would be defeated only to come back he would probably self destruct knowing there are others stronger than him and come back stronger but knowing cell he would take out Goku or someone with a sneak attack

@@SuperbMoves depends on his mood swings 😂

But the problem is that perfect cell is extremely cocky and loves to toy around with his opponents, dabura is more serious than Cell,even if Cell's regeneration would allow him to resist his spit stone abilities, let's not forget that powerful attacks can overwhelm Perfect cell's stamina and since the more he regenerates it takes a toll on his stamina (and i think his regeneration slows down when he's low on stamina), and if dabura slows down cells regeneration and exhausts him of his stamina then he could potentially either turn cell into stone or just destroy him by destroying all of his cells

@@perminator218 Dabura is just as cocky and also likes to toy with his opponents, since he's basically a devil. How would Dabura react to a well aimed destructo disk? Pretty sure that would one-shot him if it hits. So Cell has one shot options too. And his move would actually work on Dabura since he has no regeneration. Cell also has Saiyan DNA. He can grow stronger during a fight like he did against Gohan. Other than that he can breathe in space, knows the Kamehameha, can multiply himself. Lets not bring up a possible Kaio Ken that he actually should know but never used for some reason 😂. Cell just has way more options than Dabura.

@@NtheHecker Fair enough

Dabura's only fit is his spit. Cell is touched, he would cut himself up and regenerate instantly

@@ZERARCHIVE2023 but we don't know the Dabura full magical might is super perfect cell even impervious to Magic cuz I don't think he is and would super perfect cell even get a zenkai boost if he was killed through Magic

Dabura gets beaten with mid difficulty. He's not ss2 tier. He fought a fpssj gohan

@@ZERARCHIVE2023 Regeneration is far from instant. It would be useless against being turned to stone.