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Dacian falx Vs Roman armor & shield equivalents! 

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Thrand test a later century Romanian made Dacian Falx on early Trajan Dacian War era Roman armor and shield equivalents. Thrand test the Scutum, Galea (helmet) 16 Gauge not 18 gauge like accidentally said in video and the Lorica hamata or maille armor of the early Roman army. The test are done over very hard ballistic gel analogs.
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@thirdtrysacharm6177
@thirdtrysacharm6177 5 лет назад
Cool work! The Dacians are completely underappreciated. Keep it up Thrand!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Agreed
@AlinaMarian241
@AlinaMarian241 5 лет назад
But. Dacian not have Shield. Because use all 2 hand for have more power!
@dragodragon9031
@dragodragon9031 4 года назад
Next time, try with 2 handed blade falx! Damm it! Nasty blade! Maine, from here derive the legend about Lady Death that comes for you... with the " nasty blade"!
@craezee247
@craezee247 4 года назад
Arnold Wilson the dacians were absolute top dogs, dominating without exception all the germanic, celtic, and iranian/steppe cultures they came in contact with. it took rome at the height of its power to put them down and even rome had some serious setbacks
@morningmidnight9398
@morningmidnight9398 4 года назад
@@craezee247 Not really
@kleinjahr
@kleinjahr 5 лет назад
Now I've got a splitting headache. It's all Thrand's falx.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Lol
@danieljarnea9840
@danieljarnea9840 3 года назад
Dacians are the most underrated nation considered "barbarians". They were conquered when the Roman Empire were at their peak in military development. Dacia was one of the last regions conquered due to its location, Danube was an natural obstacle. And lets not undermine their culture, Dacians had a crazy religion, they were not afraid of dying. They were going to meet their god Zamolxes, probably one of the oldest monotheistic religion in the world. Thank you for your videos !!!
@cristianbalan518
@cristianbalan518 11 месяцев назад
Dacian religion was monotheistic because Zamolxis was only a demi-god. There were many other gods in the Dacian religion, such as Kotis, which was later adopted by the Greeks.
@floflo8461
@floflo8461 4 года назад
imagine a dacian with a great force in that period,they was fearsome warriors,Viva Dacia Aeterna
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 4 года назад
Agreed they were feared and force to rekkon with!
@alexhulea2735
@alexhulea2735 4 года назад
@@Thrand11 if i remember right, trajan's column and written accounts presents them in quite a flattering light
@taegukgi07
@taegukgi07 5 лет назад
In Romania we only have a few people who can create a decent falx.... so, who is the creator of these masterpieces?
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Iamandi Christian
@CsStoker
@CsStoker 5 лет назад
Trajan disliked the video
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Agreed
@JPOGame
@JPOGame 4 года назад
😂😭🤣 That was funny
@td9250
@td9250 4 года назад
I didn't... :(
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 5 лет назад
Kudos to steel helmets, people keep saying certain weapons would kill a man through a helmet, but tests like this clearly show an utterly lethal wound is turned into only a minor wound. Go Team Armour!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Agreed! I love armour!
@charlottewalnut3118
@charlottewalnut3118 5 лет назад
@@Thrand11 if ya come to south carolina ive got a mace that might crush a helmet. Two handed flanged mace.
@LeohTheArcher
@LeohTheArcher 5 лет назад
Most underrated channel on RU-vid by far, the amount of information you reliably give us is astounding, as is the effort you've put into these tests. I've been watching since the first videos about the spear overarm slide technique, back when Eldgrim was still around, and since then you've never failed to impress me with the quality of your content and the care you put into making it. That only now the channel is reaching 50k subs (congratulations on that btw) is ludicrous, your content deserves far more. Thank you for the effort and I wish you the best of luck going foward!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@PerroYverde
@PerroYverde 5 лет назад
What happened to Eldgrim?
@alexandrosmegas1172
@alexandrosmegas1172 Год назад
@@Thrand11 hello thegn, your videos are very interesting I love your content👍🏻, Could you make a video where linothorax like withstands a blow with a Romans sword gladius if possible, thank you very much.
@TimmyTurner421
@TimmyTurner421 5 лет назад
Even if it doesn't penetrate the helmet wouldn't the sheer impact knock somebody down?
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
It could depends.
@stevenleslie8557
@stevenleslie8557 4 года назад
I think it would rattle his senses and provide another opportunity to finish him off
@TimmyTurner421
@TimmyTurner421 4 года назад
@incinerator950 I bet they did. I mean I would damn sure try and reinforce my armor because it could potentially save my life
@WelcomeToDERPLAND
@WelcomeToDERPLAND Год назад
Easily a concussion and probably some neck pain. I watched a video made by Skall where he was able to penetrate a steel helmet with a 1 handed falx, so it's definitely capable of penetration.
@selcovoilucian8253
@selcovoilucian8253 4 года назад
That's why in the second Dacian war , the Romans reinforced their helmets
@cicoalexx
@cicoalexx 4 года назад
the second traian's war** dacians fight many times against romans was 4 batlle at tape.
@duchessskye4072
@duchessskye4072 5 лет назад
Well, if I recall correctly, the reinforcement ridges on later roman helmets were added just because of the falx, to counter its cutting/piercing ability. On the topic of the padding, it is likely that it would have been felt, or flax, or some similar material. Definitely not that thick though. Medieval helmet liners were about 6mm-10mm, so I wouldn't think that the padding used by the romans would have been a lot thicker. But the material can make a lot of difference
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
By historical account yes
@alexhulea2735
@alexhulea2735 4 года назад
not only helm reinforcement. emperor trajan had the soldiers in the second dacian war wear better arm protection. the falx-wielding dacians didn't just pierce or split (allegedly) helms, they also inflicted some horrific wounds on the non-shield arm (even removing limbs at times)
@widgren87
@widgren87 5 лет назад
Was just about to shutdown and go to sleep when this came up, oh well what is another half hour before a day off? Anyway thanks and best of luck to you and yours.
@ovidiovillanueva5846
@ovidiovillanueva5846 5 лет назад
Im sure the one dislike on this video is from a filthy centurion lol Great vid thrand
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Ja! LOL
@BigBoss-cm6tq
@BigBoss-cm6tq 5 лет назад
Great to see Romania/Dacia doing good it makes me proud of my ancestors
@chlorinatedpvc6629
@chlorinatedpvc6629 2 года назад
First of all Romania isn't Dacia, and second of all you probably have no genetic correlations with anyone who was part of the Dacian tribes.
@smoke12785
@smoke12785 Год назад
@@chlorinatedpvc6629 The Dacians were the ancient Indo-European inhabitants of the cultural region of Dacia, located in the area near the Carpathian Mountains and west of the Black Sea. That makes it pretty clear that Romanian DNA contains Dacian DNA .
@chlorinatedpvc6629
@chlorinatedpvc6629 Год назад
​@@smoke12785 probably very little.
@smoke12785
@smoke12785 Год назад
@@chlorinatedpvc6629 still, it was not wrong of him to assume that the dacians were his ancestors.
@notsoslimshady3671
@notsoslimshady3671 Год назад
​@@chlorinatedpvc6629 you should look into the study by Cardos G., Stoian V., Miritoiu N., Comsa A., Kroll A., Voss S., Rodewald A.: Paleo-mtDNA analysis and population genetic aspects of old Thracian populations from South-East of Romania and into the book of Mihai G Netea about the origins of Romanians which uses dna studies to show Romanians have dacian and Roman ancestors. Kinda funny and sad how you talk like that when you haven't even looked into any studies
@WeedoxRO
@WeedoxRO 5 лет назад
Respect for your work and respecting us, DACIANS !
@JPOGame
@JPOGame 4 года назад
They were very tall and large people too, a 7 foot 300 pound shroomed out angry Dacian taught his entire life that actual life starts after death well, just imagine running into one of those bare bodied dudes wielding nothing but a two handed weapon, ready and happy to die for his lands fearing absolutely nothing but feeling joy when attacking. For defending their sacred home was everything to them, they loved their lands more than anything and before drawing their last breathe they would take a piece of soil and place it on their chest as they died. I'm proud to have inherited a large portion of their blood and it's the reason why I am as big as I am. Thank you for this video good sir 👍
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 4 года назад
You are most welcome and love the falx.
@bestopinion9257
@bestopinion9257 4 года назад
Not tall but with wide shoulders and very muscular.
@tonyslabu6373
@tonyslabu6373 3 года назад
@@bestopinion9257 Nah the Thracian/Dacian heritage is why Dinarids and Balkan people are so tall on average,it's a gene inherited from them and even chronicles of the time describe them as being almost a head taller than the average roman legionaire.
@bestopinion9257
@bestopinion9257 3 года назад
@@tonyslabu6373 If you say so...
@procow2274
@procow2274 3 года назад
I'm guessing 99.99% of them never reached 7 feet
@yggdrasil3134
@yggdrasil3134 4 года назад
When i see a Falx, it resembles an eagle 's talon.Penetrates for the kill.Nature evoling design copied by the Dacian people, nice.
@laxityazathoth1423
@laxityazathoth1423 5 лет назад
Very similar to a kukri with its forward facing curved blade not a good day to be a legionnaire facing those weapons
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Very true!
@dragodragon9031
@dragodragon9031 4 года назад
I think, in my opinion, those weapons have some common ancestors or... some common roots!!!! 😎
@stefanstoyanov7460
@stefanstoyanov7460 4 года назад
@@dragodragon9031 The Arians that conquered half of northern Indian subcontinent came from Thracia. One of the older names of Thrace was Aria. Inner curved weapons are a somewhat of a trademark for the Balkan people from the ancient times till now. Scalme, sica, falx/romphaya, kolak and yatagan all look like familly members.
@DragosdeGothia
@DragosdeGothia 5 лет назад
Such a blade! I wasn't expecting it to do that much of a job on the maille.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Agreed was more than I expected from an arming falx :) Plus the test Roland and I did with Viking age swords they did not penetrate.
@bobhaynes8169
@bobhaynes8169 4 года назад
@@Thrand11 Speaking of the Viking age... I wonder if this might be a clue as to what the elusive "mail troll" was. Perhaps a similarly bladed billhook?
@DedicatedSpartan
@DedicatedSpartan 5 лет назад
0:27 I think people do not realize that people back then had minds of their own, you could make your weapon a little different than everybody else if you could afford it, and in the "Barbaric" world most free men could afford to.
@alexhulea2735
@alexhulea2735 4 года назад
quite honestly, i'm not surprised there are accounts of falx variants with 3 foot handles. weapons like the nagamaki are a somewhat logical evolution of a battlefield weapon.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 4 года назад
Very true.
@GodsChosen69
@GodsChosen69 4 года назад
the 2 handed falxes did go through the helmets. the romans made modifications to the helmets to stop that from happening.
@meraxesrex6982
@meraxesrex6982 4 года назад
the Dacians were not using just the falx but also the sica, which was a shorter one hand sickle type blade. the falx was most likely used by Comates, plebeians with no resources for much war apparel, sometimes fighting almost naked, while the nobles, Pileates/Tarabostes, were having access to armour and were more likely to fight with shield and sica.
@meraxesrex6982
@meraxesrex6982 3 года назад
@Ghost Girl Remade the purpose of the falx was to hook the top of the shield and drag it down to expose to blows the soldier behind it. so, falx handlers were always in the first line. this was the Dacians' way of annihilating the shield wall of the Roman cohorts. this is how 40,000 Dacians resisted 5 years to 200-300,000 Romans, while Caesar conquered Gaul with 30,000 men. that's also the reason why the Dacian shields were oval.
@meraxesrex6982
@meraxesrex6982 3 года назад
@Ghost Girl Remade also, they were defeated after Sarmisegetusa fell by treason ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EuztbN1HjTA.html
@tynix1
@tynix1 5 лет назад
The shield test is correct up to a point ... If he held his hand, his opponent would at the moment of impact fall below his head ... In the test, the shield is fixed.:) Anyway, the two hand falx is more devasteiting as a weapon...
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
What the tire was for to allow give some like the arm but not a perfect simulation of an arm I am sure.
@breaden4381
@breaden4381 5 лет назад
Now all you need is a proper falcata and Celtic sword to complete the Roman helmet destruction collection.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Agreed!
@SeñorDossierOficial
@SeñorDossierOficial 5 лет назад
Please try some medieval weapons against a riot police armor
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Love too and Ihave some modern riot arm and leg armor.
@SeñorDossierOficial
@SeñorDossierOficial 5 лет назад
@@Thrand11 that test would be so cool \○
@chrisbasarab2446
@chrisbasarab2446 5 лет назад
Great vid, Thrand. I am still finding it difficult to understand why the falx was phased out in history, or any other recurve blade for that matter. They are natural cutters. We only have the kukri left in modern times. Maybe it was too specialized? Then again, a sword in general is a specialized weapon that works poorly against armour and any weapon can be deadly, even a wooden club or a loose rock. Keep up the great work, you noble soul.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Thanks and agreed to the design especially with center grip shields
@lukediehl1210
@lukediehl1210 5 лет назад
I think the reason the falx fell out of favor due to evolutions in material science. Allow me to explain... People don't like to be hit. Reach is good because it lets you do more hitting and less getting hit. When we look at other swords of the era, the blades are typically rather short and broad. This is due to the limitations of metallury at the time. The falx took a similar mass of metal and stretched it into a longer, narrower blade reinforced by a thick spine. I'm no engineer, but the arched shape might have added to the structural integrity of the blade. As techniques improved, swords grew longer, but there's a slight problem with curved blades. If you maintain the curvature, making it longer will eventually lead to an impractical blade shape as the tip starts to curl back towards you. Matt Easton has touched on this several times in reference to strongly curved cavalry sabers which, despite their cutting potential, have less effective reach than a straighter blade. In a way, the falx did survive until the advent of firearms, just not as a sword. Numerous polearms have falx-like blades, but polearms are battlefield weapons, not sidearms. The sidearm, which accompanies the warrior at all times is usually more iconic than the principal weapon of war. Samurai are intrinsically linked to the katana, even though they were originally horse archers. Knights are associated with the sword even though the lance was their primary weapon. Even in more modern times, we can't picture a cowboy without his revolver, despite the fact that the Winchester rifle is called "the gun that won the west".
@chrisbasarab2446
@chrisbasarab2446 5 лет назад
@@lukediehl1210 Thank you. That makes so much sense. Too often we forget the sword is a side arm and it was the spear and its cousins that were the main individual weapons of war. And the material science explanation is right on the money. Sure, the Dacians were renowned craftsmen and miners, but then again, they did live 2K years ago. Again, thank you!
@MrBigCookieCrumble
@MrBigCookieCrumble 5 лет назад
Wow that's nasty! Impressive weapon design those old Dacians had.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Agreed
@theblackarhangel
@theblackarhangel 5 лет назад
They ( dacians ) are my ancestors :) . I am proud of it.
@MarcioLiao
@MarcioLiao 5 лет назад
That helmet need some love. I know it is there for testing purposes, but at least give it some shining dignity xD
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
True I might just go through all y hopeless test helms and armour pieces and attempt to repair them the best possible. Might make a good video showing methods
@andreiutzu20
@andreiutzu20 3 года назад
Excuse me sir, who would win in a fight between the samurai and the dacians?
@VasiB.
@VasiB. 4 месяца назад
I would like the dacian to win but unfortunately the katana si more versatile and faster. Falx has the disadvantage that seems to be designed mostly for slices coming from top down. The katana would slice from any direction much easier. Not as hard hitting at that puncturing point, but reaching first matters.
@trackingcalin1988
@trackingcalin1988 3 года назад
This is almost scientific documentary.
@hadinapokalix7329
@hadinapokalix7329 7 месяцев назад
nobody screwed over the Romans in the golden age of Rome 27bc to 180 ad but the Dacians did that's freaken impressive
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 7 месяцев назад
Agreed
@bogdanpoiana7360
@bogdanpoiana7360 4 года назад
sorry to say this ! but you don't have even 40% of the strenght of a Dacian back then .... ( not that i messured they're strenght ) but everything they did they did physicaly..... we have to much technology to help us and thus......we have no ideea how powerful our bodyes can gett.....(technology made us Lazy ) :(
@deformitygurubashi
@deformitygurubashi 4 года назад
Nice video, but it would be wise to wear some protection goggles
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 4 года назад
Never had a problem.so far plus the warriors of the period did not have them.
@andrew3203
@andrew3203 Год назад
The Dacians would have used short recurved blades called Sica (similar to a kukri or a sickle), along with shields, and longer two-handed weapons with a curved tip, often called falx or romphata, possibly as a means to break the Roman shield wall by arcing over it. However, they weren't factory made, and each blacksmith had their own model and crafting method, thus there are dozens of different types that appear in historical records and archeological sites.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Год назад
We have tested the sica as well as two handed and one handed flax in many videos
@A14b19
@A14b19 5 лет назад
Thank for doing my recommendation on helmet . We used to test a gladius against a helmet but never cut through .When I did Roman auxiliary reanactment 20 ys ago I used a woolen felt cap half inch thick under my helmet which I also used in my non combat roles. You swetted but it obsorbed well and kept me cool on long show session with linnin scaf . I can say during 45 min of combat menuvers the quontity of sweting is unbelievable and chainmail would rust up if not cleaned after and wiped with olive oil . As it dries it forms a coating very good . Your demonstrations are very educational testing or during reanactment is only way to learn and understand the past. Doing combat as our ansesters did is quit something .thank you.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Thanks and I agree
@jamesj4827
@jamesj4827 5 лет назад
Fearsome blade, enough to show why the Romans adapted to it
@pintiliecatalin
@pintiliecatalin Год назад
I think the shield should be positioned lower. Not just in this case of ancient setting, but also for medieval times. Any defender holding the shield so high, would be basically blind the entire fight. Not to mention that in this setting there is no give on the shield when struck. I think only very strong individuals would be able to hold the shield in place.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Год назад
I fight single combat shield is fine for that a formation or shield wall is totally different and yes lower
@stefthorman8548
@stefthorman8548 Год назад
can an saber replicate this? although they look similar, an saber is a lot thinner, and the spine isn't reinforced, but would it work?
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Год назад
To pierce a helmet maybe if hitting with back curve can test that for you in the future if you like. The cuts thought with edge uncertain like into the shield if you mean that.
@dick_richards
@dick_richards 4 года назад
I know of only one weapon that caused the Greatest Army in history to reinforce their helmets, and shields, add arm guards, leg guards, and reinforce the shoulders as well...... that was the falx.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 4 года назад
agreed
@dick_richards
@dick_richards 4 года назад
@@Thrand11 Thank you Sir! Now that I have your ear Sir, I've been looking for a long.time for 'my knife'. And what I mean by that is that I'm a knife guy, and I've got quite the collection, but I still haven't found "My knife". I currently EDC a Spyderco Pygmy Warrior knife, and I think that is as close to perfect I can find, perfect knife you can EDC that is. I also EDC a Cold Steel Spartan, and if I go into the city I will always carry My Cold Steel XL ESPADA. But I still think there's other options. I realize it's the wielder and not the weapon, ppl get killed with Sharpened toothbrushes in JAIL on the regular, so it's all relative....... But as we are well aware, the difference in weapon choices is vital. And I'm extremely envious of that SICA knife you have. And in my broad and extensive studies in blade design, form, functionality, style etc etc... I think that the power generated in that style of blade is the Superior form. Now I realize that's a pretty bold statement, but obviously you agree Sir! Both owning the blade and having used it as extensively as you have, know its potential, nevermind what it's Daddy Falx can do!!! They are next on the Blade shopping list for me...... Because it's quite obvious that they are the superior form and function. Period.
@jgappy5643
@jgappy5643 2 года назад
Bullcrap. The falx might have made the romans to reinforce their helmets, but their shields were reinforced after they had close encounters with the iberian falcata. Take your time to read about the iberian falcata and the romans...
@dick_richards
@dick_richards 2 года назад
@@jgappy5643 What's your point?
@dick_richards
@dick_richards 2 года назад
@@jgappy5643 I extremely familiar with both, i have a bloody Flacata. The falx is a pole arm, with a thin recurved blade. The flacata has a hammiguri or appleseed shaped blade. The sheering power of the thin falx recurve alone is what makes it superior, not to mention the fact it's a 2 handed pole arm, instead of a single handed weapon, like your flacata. Now you explain how it's better.... i beg u.
@cristitanase6130
@cristitanase6130 Год назад
The shield will have dropped somewhat due to the impact force. Remember, you only have one hand to hold the shield and if that thing hits the top border it will create a force that will push the shield down.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Год назад
Agreed
@henrihamalainen300
@henrihamalainen300 5 лет назад
Considering that romans had extra layer of maille covering shoulders it would be interesting to know if falx still had chance of injuring the soldiers with downwards strikes over the cover of shield. edit: that extra layer of maille was of course when using lorica hamata. With segmentata the plates were also arranged to overlap more and so it seems that shoulder area was prone to be hit with the combat style and equipment they used and needed extra protection.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Agreed thought of that after and with all other request this will be continued lol
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 5 лет назад
Excellent video Thegnthrand.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Thanks
@WelcomeToDERPLAND
@WelcomeToDERPLAND Год назад
I presume a two handed Falx would have far more penetrative power.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Год назад
Ja it can and we test that as well.
@davie100able
@davie100able 5 лет назад
I really enjoy your videos, Thrand. Always such interesting content. Regards, Dave.
@WastelandSeven
@WastelandSeven 4 года назад
@12:42 if he had his shield up that high he's asking for his leg to be taken off. Because his knee would be exposed.
@stevenleslie8557
@stevenleslie8557 4 года назад
The Romans had to make equipment modifications due to the Dacians. This included thicker metal for the top of the helmet and an armored sleeve that covered the sword weiding arm of the soldier.
@bobhaynes8169
@bobhaynes8169 4 года назад
I don't know if I thanked you guys yet, but your videos have been a great help in my research. Especially these ones on the falx. I'm currently writing a book and one of the main characters is a ranger who ends up dual wielding a falx and shillelagh war club.
@wizardscrollstudio
@wizardscrollstudio 4 года назад
5 Romans disliked this video
@demomanchaos
@demomanchaos 5 лет назад
"Both holes are quite large" I giggled.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Lol
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 5 лет назад
Oh dear.
@arthurrapson8183
@arthurrapson8183 4 года назад
Why are you screaming after the strike? Poor neighbors
@HS-su3cf
@HS-su3cf 5 лет назад
"I don't wanna get that blood om my shield", Thegn Thrand 2019.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Lol
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 5 лет назад
Very interesting. Thanks Thrand. It would be interesting to see a tip cut/piercing of the shield face. I think I read that iron or bronze rims were added to Roman Scutums after they encountered Gallic swordsmen in the 4/5th centuries BC. Seeing that the Romans added cross braces on the top of their helmets after encountering the Dacians, a vertical down strike on the helmet with the blade rather than just the tip may have been a good idea. A higher-domed/pointed top helmet may better deflect falx strikes-such as many spangenhelms. Who'd be a gel-head?!!!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
We can arrange that
@SuphaNinja
@SuphaNinja 5 лет назад
Why yell after you swing?
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Habit when cutting for power cuts on targets I hold breath release after.
@Agonis100
@Agonis100 5 лет назад
Thank you for what you do Thrand. It's fascinating to watch these tests.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
You are most welcome!
@cristiserban5179
@cristiserban5179 3 года назад
This exactly why I should be happy/proud being a Romanian. Leave the corruption n everythin' aside. This exactly why I should be proud, ma ancestors. And seeing people from other countries witnessin' the supremacy and potential unleashed by the Falx, especially Americans . Truly makes me unspeakably delighted. I knew it would have such potential. One of the most underrated weapons in history but with a greater potential. On the other hand, Thrand deserve a medal not only for the review of this magnificent weapon but for your effort of givin' us an idea/glimpse of how devastating and effective would the Falx be, and how educational your channel is. Many thanks for makin' my day!
@НиколяФилибер
@НиколяФилибер 3 года назад
That type of hit would not inflict a deadly wound, not even a heavy one. Piercing capacity is fairly mediocre. Regular battle axe would do a better job. Besides, brandishing such cutting weapon you risked hitting your neighbours, which means formation had to be loose
@bogdanstanescu9990
@bogdanstanescu9990 4 года назад
This is the sword for one hand! The one for two hands is cooler! :)
@raritica8409
@raritica8409 2 месяца назад
Awesome
@Skbrvrisjsbdvetjtrbejudb
@Skbrvrisjsbdvetjtrbejudb 4 года назад
Hails from Romania
@zedek_
@zedek_ 5 лет назад
Very nice. Really appreciate the tests you do man. Keep it up!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Thanks and I shall!
@honkerhonkersson9694
@honkerhonkersson9694 4 года назад
I am noob on this sort of thing, but wouldent it be game over for the falx user if he hit the roman shield and it gor stuck??
@Semperidem94
@Semperidem94 4 года назад
Pretty much. He would get multiple gladius stabs from multiple legionaries in a formation while trying to retrieve his falx from the shield.
@MrGary10k
@MrGary10k 2 года назад
You missed an important point on your shield demonstration. Jerk the shield away. Now that guy could have more blades coming down on him without the shield. Even with lorica segmentata, that guy was in trouble.
@cicoalexx
@cicoalexx 4 года назад
the reproduction of the fight is not really correct. the Dacian warriors were on average 17 cm taller like romans. than the dacians were very strong. much stronger than you are and in addition to that, at a strong blow a shield held with one hand goes down quite a lot ... the one here is on a stand that is fixed. it doesn't go down.and your weapon is not a flax. the flax is a weapon for 2 hands, what you have is a sica or maybye an arhomphai (a thracian weappon ). no Roman warrior could hold the shield with one hand, if the shield was take a direct hit from a flax.the Dacians repulsed 2 Roman invasions. the Romanians had to change their shields and helmets to have a chance of survival
@muresanraulionut
@muresanraulionut 3 года назад
The experiment of hitting the shield with the falx is incorrect because in this case the shield has a fixed position and absorbs the maximum energy from the impacts. In reality the shield would have been on one arm so the hit from above will push the shield down significantly at the moment of the impacts. The roman soldier's head would have been in a much more vulnerable situation.
@guitanton
@guitanton 4 года назад
Very nice video!!! But stop screaming after you strike, it is hillarious. Scream while striking and try to do it in a more manly way...
@oldscorp
@oldscorp 3 года назад
All the armor and weapon testing you see on youtube is unconclusive. The hardness and purity of the metal they used back then is very diferent. You make a stainles steel helmet today and it can withstand gunfire.
@Dejawolfs
@Dejawolfs 5 лет назад
yeah that falx is nasty, it's like a bec du corbin.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Agreed
@fhmen
@fhmen 5 лет назад
I think the point of this weapon was not to pierce the helmet but to have the point slide down the helmet and cut the face open disabling the legionnaire.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
That happened as well why they supposedly added visor. The helmet was up being 16 gauge I said 18 gauge so Roman helmet would have been way weaker.
@fhmen
@fhmen 5 лет назад
@@Thrand11 Well, as I imagine, the shield would be up to the roman's chin and his face is the only thing exposed, and with the falx the dacians kind of accidentally got to it. It would be interesting to see a test how and if that visor worked. I guess it did since they kept using it.
@ParasidicGeneration
@ParasidicGeneration 5 лет назад
I love all your tests it's great to see weapons of old tested and it's good to know if you have these weapons that you can defend yourself adequately
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Thanks
@ParasidicGeneration
@ParasidicGeneration 5 лет назад
@@Thrand11 no problem been watching for many years
@fr21R
@fr21R 4 года назад
When you want to live i think the force on the hit is much better and my bloodline people was strong men the big one the the force of the hit blow them from first hit
@billfleming6880
@billfleming6880 2 года назад
there are one handed and two handed falx....also the thracians used a straighter version called the rhomphaia
@luisantoniofigueroabustama7203
@luisantoniofigueroabustama7203 4 года назад
Genial video. Saludos desde Chile.
@renumihai5263
@renumihai5263 5 лет назад
the thing is that not all army's of Rome did have the "high-end" outfit, allot of them they did have almost/only the leather body armor; just like the "tower shield" only few troops did have that huge shield
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Agreed
@TimmyTurner421
@TimmyTurner421 5 лет назад
About to crack the 50k mark very soon!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Ja!!!!!!
@colin2utube
@colin2utube 5 лет назад
It raises a tactical question though, given the hold that the shield has on the blade biting into it, the attacker would have to be wary about committing to a full force strike or he'd expose himself to counter-attack. Any self-respecting legionary will be raising his shield towards an incoming high strike, keeping the blade point away from his head.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Shields trap blades and you normally do cut into them on purpose. The Romans account says it split shields deep enough it still injured the soldiers why we tested it.
@BloodyCrow__
@BloodyCrow__ 4 года назад
Wouldn't 2 handed be more powerful.
@voicaudacian9734
@voicaudacian9734 2 года назад
thats a falx made for women :)))) for home use
@ket7926
@ket7926 3 года назад
the sound at 2:53 is absolutely delicious
@mariusconstantinescu8290
@mariusconstantinescu8290 2 месяца назад
Dar subtitrarea în limba română unde este? În ce țară trăiești? Faceți rasism!
@KarlKeesel
@KarlKeesel 5 лет назад
Woww Romans truly fear that deadly falx!!!!! Awesome test... It will be amazing if you test some bronze plate 🙏🙏🙏
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Really want proper bronze armour for testing hoping to receive some soon.
@KarlKeesel
@KarlKeesel 5 лет назад
@@Thrand11 holy shitt i hope that im waiting all my life to see that xD
@Ragniirox
@Ragniirox 5 лет назад
20:20 that's one sexy viking
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Lol
@FellVoice
@FellVoice 5 лет назад
The correct pronunciation for Dacian is (Day-shun), loved the video btw.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Thanks I will note that too.
@chrisbasarab2446
@chrisbasarab2446 5 лет назад
@@FellVoice Actually, if you want to sound like a Romanian, it would be Da-chee-a, with the two a like in bar, the ch like in chair or churn and the ee is short like in big. Same goes for Dacian which would be Da-chee-an, though in actual Romanian it would be Falx Dac, pronouced like Dack, not Dacian Falx. Dacian and sh are typically English. The origin word is Dac. You know, like Roman - Romanian, or Dac - Dacian. Dac and Roman, the people, are masculines, whereas Dacia and Romania, the countries, are feminines.
@FellVoice
@FellVoice 5 лет назад
@@chrisbasarab2446 Is the female Romanian name Dacia also pronounced Da-chee-a? I see it pronounced as DAY-shee-uh .
@chrisbasarab2446
@chrisbasarab2446 5 лет назад
@@FellVoice Yes, in Romanian, it is pronounced as Da-chee-a. ci is pronounced as chee, not shee. Italian has the same sound (like in arrivederci - see you later), but other romance languages are different, where ci becomes see, like in French or Spanish. Also, a in Romanian is a hard and short a, as in bar or car like above in Italian. It does not take an ae quality like it does in English, as in Damon (think Damon Hill, the English F1 driver.) Having said that, no English speaker will bat an eye when you pronounce it like the English do. Only some romance language speakers, like Italians and Romanians, will be able to tell the difference. P.S.: If you ask the Metatron, he'll tell you that in classical Latin it was pronounced Dakia and only in medieval or eclesiastical Latin it became Dacia. :) although it was written Dacia in both cases. As they point out in phonetic alphabet on Wikipedia: Dacia ([ˈdaːkja]; English /ˈdeɪʃiə, -ʃə/). See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia
@felix-lucianbejan4939
@felix-lucianbejan4939 3 года назад
I don't know if this was accounted for subsequently, but I believe a dacian falxman would stand just slightly higher than the average roman legionnaire. I wager that would affect the result of the tests against the shield.
@danychris6671
@danychris6671 4 года назад
A roman or netaniahu is the same.
@Bible460
@Bible460 3 года назад
Romania in tha past was Dacia!
@stefanstoyanov7460
@stefanstoyanov7460 4 года назад
That's not a falx, it is a sica. Thracians have many swords: sica, rufia/romphaya (old greek trascription), scalme, kopesh, falx (litterally sickle, roman name for a sword wich real name we do not actually know, probably just a dacian more curved version of the romphaya) et cetera. All of them were curved inwards and thus making them difficult to make a difference from one another.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 4 года назад
Iamandi Cristain calls this blade a Flax who created it and researches grave finds from old Dacia. The Dagger on my hip in video he calls a Sica. The dagger is the Sica not the hand and half Falx I am using in this video. This video on the Sica or dagger has link in description explaining dagger or sica history. You may be thinking of the one handed blade used by Roman gladiators inspired by the Dacian Falx which is the Sica but a sword and shaped a bit different.
@rollothewalker5535
@rollothewalker5535 4 года назад
It's a falx, lol. Also, thracians never used the khopesh.
@stefanstoyanov7460
@stefanstoyanov7460 4 года назад
@@rollothewalker5535 The macedonians invented it, and they are a mixture of many thracian, illyrian and tessalian tribes. Also I'm from Bulgarian and I saw quite a few in the museums, so yeah, they did used them.
@stefanstoyanov7460
@stefanstoyanov7460 4 года назад
@@Thrand11 The historians speculate how to destinguish the different types. True the sica is often described as dagger, but often the blade lenght reaches 50 centimeters. The scalme is universally acknowleged to be one handed sword with warying lenght. The falx and the romphaya are definitely two handed longsword/polearm like weapons. I may have guessed wrong the lenght of your weapon and it may not be sica, more likely scalme, but definitely it is not a falx. Not that the weapon is wrong or something, the dacians definitely used that kind of swords.
@antonarset
@antonarset 4 года назад
Put a longer grip to it almost like a lance and then put your hands higher almost horizontally on the heads level and you can hit the throat or catch the neck or you can catch the shield, pull it back and then hit the neck. You can catch the shield, pull it back and rotate a bit and cut the hand, or you can catch its bottom and pull it back and top, useful to your comrades to make a hit, or you can hit the leg. You dont need to hit the armor. Roman armors had a lot of openings. Also imagine soldiers with such weapons attacking from the top and bottom it is very hard to resist because when you put the shield higher to protect the head/neck you are open below and the shield could be catch easier on its bottom.
@ceroman
@ceroman 4 года назад
Even without making a big hole into the helm, the neck and brain trauma would leave a person dazed at least, fainted or dead at best. You don't need to split a helmet to break a skull or cause brain hemorrhage.
@CH-vv2hr
@CH-vv2hr 2 года назад
The falx is a great weapon. It completely countered Roman formations because it could curve around the shield
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
It also doubles as an agricultural tool, machete, meat cleaver, basically the very first ever multi-tool,....and well...Roman backstab...I mean back scratcher, yes the lorica can get etchi at some point o another, so it hits the spots! :D There are in fact several other variations that either had a more full body curve, this was done intentionally as close the gap faster or straight backside ones, like the one you have and would be used for other non-combat roles, such as carving up meat, cutting wheat or other things of the like, Interesting enough its design would be reused by the US Air Force Pilots during WW2 for there survival packs in the machete,
@todo9633
@todo9633 3 года назад
The effectiveness of the mail in warding off all but the most powerful and precise cuts could explain why the falx faded from use as chain mail became more common.
@Hrldr
@Hrldr 4 года назад
Thrust for the eye.
@lugalke5499
@lugalke5499 4 года назад
Maybe it is the Sica.
@rafaelbogdan9307
@rafaelbogdan9307 5 лет назад
Wow, these videos really bring home how nasty it could get. Looks like you don't need modern explosives to make foe hamburger, kids!
@arcaneknight9799
@arcaneknight9799 4 года назад
Was the falcata in Iberia effective against Roman helms and shields? I can't confirm or deny those claims.
@ricklambott407
@ricklambott407 5 лет назад
I have read that the Dacian Wars were mainly responsible for the increase in leg guards and armor. Have you done any studies on this and ,if so, what were your conclusions?
@annadrew4
@annadrew4 3 года назад
You are awesome for doing this!❤
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 3 года назад
Thanks
@gettitnow3785
@gettitnow3785 4 года назад
So I wounder why the evaluation of the blade went in the opposite direction with the sharp end being on the opposite side
@shan9usfc
@shan9usfc 5 лет назад
Imagine what a billhook could do..
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 5 лет назад
Almost the exact same weapon too.
@rollothewalker5535
@rollothewalker5535 4 года назад
The dacians had those too, lol
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