Dad Reacts to "Are Hadith Reliable?" | Sheikh Uthman ibn Farooq 

What many people will fail to realize that all those 54 chains is just for a single Hadith. How many Hadits we got in Sahih al Bukhari? This is how strongly the Hadiths are preserved and Qur'an is preserved in a more prestine manner. Yet still, some people won't believe. May Allah give us all hidaya. Ameen.

Daniel, I would like to address four key points based on your concerns: 1. People of that time didn't write much and didn't have pocketbooks to record everything they heard. They relied on memorization and oral transmission. Even across the world, many cultures had oral traditions and preserved much of their history through them. So your point about the words not being recorded until way later is addressed. Memorization was strong at that time as people had a greater need for it in their daily business, government, and religious matters to communicate important information and records. 2. Many of the companions weren't from the same locale, and some converted to Islam after others, so the point your father made, which is a good argument at first, about them all being in one sitting and hearing the same thing at the same time is also addressed. They simply weren't all in the same place at the same time when the Prophet (PBUH) made a statement or a prophecy. 3. This brings us to the third point and which proves the reliability of Authentic Hadiths, that even when different companions and at different times and locations heard something from the Prophet (who made the same statements multiple times), they ALL report the exact same words. THAT is what differentiates Authentic Hadiths from others. The fact that they have multiple chains of narrations after them is not the initial value of reliability but is like the icing on the cake to VALIDATE their reliability, because one, they are recorded, and two they have proven to be immune to "Chinese Whispers' which is when you know that a statement religious or not, has been preserved (i.e It remains intact even when passed through multiple individuals and throughout periods of time). 4. Finally, most information from the Books of Men (the Biographies) comes from two primary sources (among others but these are the primary ones): a. the historical writings of scholars and poets and reports about the time period, the economy, poems, reports of events, battles, etc. and which contain mentions of these men and describes their character, and the events surrounding them. b. Narrations about these 'Men' from other reporters, and these narrations and their reporters themselves also follow the same rigorous checking of criteria such as valid sources, their morals, intelligence, sound reporting abilities, good memory, etc.

Your journey reminds me very much of my childhood. We learn all of this from a really young age in Palestine, we get the chance to go over these chains and the mens biographies to solidify our faith in Sunnah. Quran & Sunnah (Authentic) are inseparable, and never conflict. Jazak Allah Kheir for sharing this, Daniel. May Allah bless your dad, he seems to be a great father MashaAllah, and may He guide him through

Daniel: I could be wrong Dad: That's how we learn MashaAllah ❤🤗

I hope Daniel sees this. The people mentioned in the chains were the teachers of hadith everyone of them, their students narrated from them and their students narrated from them. Also these people had written copy too, a person was not considered very reliable if he did had written down his narrations. But these written copy did not survive because famous people wrote their own books, and not every book could survive.

Such a blessing for a young man learning and questioning with all the honesty sitting next to his Dad researching the truth. I see it as only a matter of time when our generations growing up in west could learn from you. Do write a book once you get to a conclusion it will be a great service for them Alhamdulillah!

In my life, I will never forget the name of Abu Hurairah, the names of his grandparents, and his family. I will never forget anything about him. I spent my entire childhood studying about him.

1400 years ago, ppl just lived just to survive. Papers, writing materials and utensils are similar to gold in our generations. but Allah swt blessed them with great memory to preserve the Quran and Hadiths.

Asalam alaykom brother Daniel, watching your videos with your father reacting with you is an uplifting experience. I ask almighty Allah grant the steadfast in your deen. Shiias is definitely not Muslims, if you need any information regarding this issue you I will refer to a reliable sources to help you understand what this sect is all about. Regards from Lebanon. ❤👍

When prophet muhammad received a revelation he would explained it to his companions, and each companions had their own students learning from them. The students then wrote them down. This chain continues till this day.

That's why first revelation of quran is " Read" . Read for seeking the truth. May Allah bless you guys. You got a clean hearted father.

“من خاف الله...أخاف الله منه كل شيء، ومن خاف الناس... أخافه الله من كل شيء.” لـ (حسن البصري)

He’s a student of knowledge . May Allah preserve him

Brother Uthman has the best explanations mashallah. Thank you for the awesome video 💚💚💚💚 May Allah grant u Jannah and guide ur cool father inshallah

I remember when i was in madrasah ( Islamic junior school) , i was 13th years old that time, i can memorize more than 300 hadist ( from 2 text book ) in just 2 weeks before exam ,. the night before exam i can completly memorize word by word all of them (the arabic and its translation). the exam is go like this : the the teacher will ask random problem, and we write every hadist that connected to it. for every hadist must contain main messege hadist , and the chain name of its narrator ( from sahabah, thabi`in, and thabi`ah) and where is in the book of imam its written. And im not even arab, and arab is not my country language, Im indonesian. unffortunately , when enter senior school i dont continue to islamic school,.and i go to collage in engineering,. and i did many sin ,. so my memory of hadist is lost ., thinking back i was can memorize such hadist its kind amazing to me now. So when its said the our Ulama specially Imams in the past ,. have abilty to memorize tens of thousands or hundreds of thousand of hadist (in every version of narration, wheater its weak, good enough, strong, or fake), i believe them.

one thing to clarify for DAD , the top line did record , each one separately , the purple names that you see are the great scholars/imams who COMPILED all the work and put it in a book with chains/narrators etc etc . i hope that is a little more clear to you

I got goosebumps when his father said "the last prophet S.A.W 😢 Assalaat wa salam alaik Ya Rasool Allah , wa alaik wa ashabq ya Habeeb Allah ❤

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)had companions who were Sahabas. Sahabas had students who were called tabi'un. Tabi'un had students who were called Tabi-ul-tabi'un. So on and so forth. Prophet's companions learned from him. They, in turn, taught their students. They, in turn, taught their students. This is what is called chains of narration.

When The dad said maybe they would all sit in a campfire and decide to report this master plan 💀. Like a KKK was the most American thing 😆😂😂😂😂😂

I watched this movie of how natives American used to share their history through oral traditions. The ones who share the traditions will say something like "I got this story from my father (names) who get it from his father (names) who get it from his father (names) who witness this first hand, and this was what said word for word...", He shares the story during a certain gathering of his people, attended by both young and old. Some people who were there have heard the narration by his father previously and so if he change it, they would know when they heard it again, especially if they also keep the oral tradition and tell it to other people (continuing the narration from that guy's father or the ones before him). One thing we need to understand is these people who was the first from all the chains, they keep the hadith from memory, and they were those who memorized Qur'an. As much as if it is possible for 10 person to remember the words for words, for them to narrates to others and they also remember it words for words as the chain goes down, that is pretty impressive. Especially when we understood how spoken/heard informations do usually get changes as more people hear it (if their memories aren't great). The only way to doubt the narrators and the narrations would be if you're assuming that some of the people who collect and wrote the narrations are liars who copies other people's words and create an imaginary chains of narrations. In that case, you need to go through each hadith collectors and learn who they are and what they do, to understand their motives in fabricating hadith. While I haven't yet done the research myself, Alhamdulillah I realized that "overly skepticism" on the matter of oral traditions is a result of not able to grasp the picture of how memories works especially in this 21st century where we rely mostly on written records. If I could imagine that more than 500 people could all memorized all 10 Taylor Swift's albums by heart, words for words, and the companions of the Prophet could memorized the whole Qur'an by heart in it's original language (which we could see the result from today's preservation of Qur'an through memorization), so why would I now be skeptical over the ability to memorize other things which are of more importance than some song lyrics. For as long as those people were able to all sing back the same Taylor Swift's lyrics, and Al-Qur'an are recited in the same ways (by different people), and hadith were recorded with multiples sources with strong chains (by different people), I'd say to still doubt it has more to do with the inability to understand how human memorization, transmission, and recording informations works. May Allah guides us, increase us in knowledge and understanding, and may Allah makes it easy for us to follow His guidance.

it's like magnet to me when i saw your new content. i like to see your dad expression and how he expressed his thoughts through the video. your bonding and learning new things together are beautiful things to see.

Very interesting video but masha Allah how can you doubt that... Its so clear

how you want all the guys to not know each other when they in the same time hear the same words from prophet mohammed pbuh i like your videos keep going :) and may allhah guide your dad to islam

it brings even more validity if 2 different companion chain for example one going in yemen and one in Irak say the same exact writing.

Thailand is one of the RARE GEMS to learn Islam, u should visit the Ulamak there, and talk to them. If not just come to Malaysia, Perlis is nearest... u can learn

truth is always consistent. consistency is achieved only by disciplined and honest minds.

Watching from Philippines 🇵🇭 Assalamualaikum bros and sis

احب اتابعهم من اني لا اعرف الانكليزي. بس كذا محبه من الله. واتمني لهم التوفيق وان يهدي الله بهم قومهم الي الاسلام يارب ☝🏻🕋🤲🏻

Masha Allah I admire your dad inquisitive nature.Literally questioning things but not in arrogance but in sincerity.

MashaAllah awesome job great presentation and great content May Allah swt reward you Ameen

Sheikh Uthman is really into ilmur rijal. It is his thing

Greetings, I liked the way your dad pronounced the Sheikh may God the almighty and merciful bless you both. Masha Allah your dad is a nice person.

Yes Daniel that is What 20 chains from Abu Hurayrah means. 20 different muslims transmit from Abu Hurayrah this same Hadith.

It is easy to under stand if you think of how it happened like this if there were 5 companions sitting around the prophet peace be upon him and all 5 heard him say something then each one of the 5 go away Tell their friends and family the exact words they heard then each of the friends and family tell their own friends and family the exact words they heard from their friends and family chain after chain then when you compare the words of the friends and family on the bottom list to the top of the list and you find it to be the same exact words then there is no room for mistakes. You actually need to know what we call the science of hadith to know exactly how the exact words of the prophet peace be upon him reached us today. For example if you read how the sahih bukhari was compiled in one book and what it took to do that you would understand the whole thing.

It's only enough for me that abu bakar R.A, Hussain R.A and umar farooq R.A reported.. ❤ i love them.. Because you Don't know these people that's why you have questions.. we know sahaba like our own parents that much we know them.. so we love them more than our parents.. that's why we don't have questions.. that's the benefit of born muslim.. you learn and have love from childhood ❤

Asalamu alay kum my dear brother and dad 😊 you give me a reason to educate ourselves in the truth which will help us later on so I thank you with all my heart from sajid in Bradford West Yorkshire UK u have a beautiful soul and it shows thanks for your time and help brother ☝️🤲💚🇵🇸

Assalam u alikum Daniel and dad look again so friendly environment happy moment for me Allah bless on you

Maasha Allah, Dad will get there insha Allah. Hadith and Quran are inseparable because who explained the quran, the prophet did may peace and blessing be upon him, The hadith is the words of our beloved prophet Mohammed May peace and blessings of Allah be upon. A Muslim is not a Muslim if he/she rejects the hadith. May Allah guide your dad to Islam. He is a good father.

By Allah Watching your videos fills me with joy and I catch myself smiling. May Allah reward you and increase you in guidance

God bless you and your pops. And may Allah guid him and all of us in rii path.

The ones on top (light blue colored) are the ones that claimed to have heard it from The Prophet Mohammed peace and blessings be upon him. The ones in the middle (blue colored) are the ones that told they heard it from the (light blue) ones from up to bottom. The last ones (purple colored) are the ones that actually went ahead and wrote it down as they heard it with its chain of narratives from bottom to top until The Prophet Mohammed peace and blessings be upon him.

GOD IS ENOUGH FOR ME! Enough is His book for guidance.

Your respected father mentioned great point,,, he said like if the words said by same person and written by different guys at one same time then they show the words are same .. Masha Allah , glory to Allah , one Almighty owner of everything! I think your father is not yet Muslim, but I felt how Almighty already blessed with intelligence, I say .. Masha Allah.., because where respected uncle is right now, he surely need to pray for more guidance from One Almighty, then we know as Muslims (even from born families) ask hidayat from one Allah.

May Allah increase you both in knowledge and guidance.

The key-point to address this all is very easy, know first who are those people that narrated it, know that in that time Oral tradition was something not on the level of nowadays, in the past that was considered more reliable than writing it down. Then things will fall in place. The issue we have here most is assuming ´´if it is not written down then it is not accurate´´. Did you know that Japan in the past centuries ago considerd memorization more reliable than written something down? Islamic history needs to be studied and the people mentioned need to be studied then you will understand how it is impossible for any error to have occurred.

You have to study hadith you will see then how strong islam is

Hadith are not allowed to be written, because the Prophet didn't want them to be confused with the Qur'an

I love your videos, we know you very love your dad, 🥰 because we do too ❤ as reminder especially for myself, not everyone need a push, sometimes they need pull or space to reflect. Inshaa Allah one day as for hadith in my opinion: if someone fabricate the hadith with mentioning trustworthy person, then we can check if that 'trustworthy person' really said that or not (by his book for example, or their family, biography) because it is impossible to do that unless you are publisher of a book that edit certain words in a book before producing it and burn all published book before 👍 we can know in Qur'an case, if a word was mistype, the publisher will burn and stop the produce and people will notice anyway.

Keep it coming D & D - the Almighty will reward you for the efforts

Man what an awesome video yall made. Please make more hadith learning videos. Waiting for part 2 and hopefully part 3 meeting 🤝 with Shaykh Uthman.

It's going to be great Daniel to study with Sheikh Uthman in class, and then you will be so good at Islam.

Amazing amazing video. Mashallah. May Allah (God) reward sheikh uthman

Brother hundreds of Hadith been writing at the time of prophet but been collected later in one book

it's not about saying the same thing, it's about saying it word by word and letter by letter which makes it almost impossible to happen with multiple chains that are unrelated to each other, unless he saying or the event really happened and all those different unrelated head of chains witnessed it

Cant wait to see Your Dad meet Syaikh Uthman and take shahada, InsyaAllah

Salam, i just want to add a very important point that is missed many times when we talk about Hadith. What’s difficult to memorize in Hadith is not the saying of the prophet salla allaho alibi o Salam) it’s to memorize the right chains and also to memorize week chains. Because there are not week chains than strong chanins. So what does this really mean? A good narrater is know in “alim a rijal” to not do misstakes in the chains. So if one thinks deeply in this, that means a narriter will memorize 100 touaen of names and the right order. So it’s the chains that makes it “amazing” how the people who memorized the Hadith. What is also important to understand, is if you have 10 narriter and they all memorize all the same chains. Just wanted to add that o allaho 3alam. Love ur videos. Keep up the e good work.

Love you and your dad! Pure pure nice men good characters 🫡

Your Dad’s questions are amazing, I always think like him even though I am a Muslim. If we are not sure about a hadees, if it contradicts the Quran and other saheeh hadees then we don’t need to accept it.

May Allaah Azza Wa Jall Grant you both knowledge and deep understanding we are all students of learning

The purple one is book which is book for hadith compilation , someone may write it previously in seperate recording but haven been made books

Thanks so much. We are also learning with you. Thanks for sharing.

Walikum salam, MashaAllah very nice video

Your Pops got a nice beard going on. MashaAllah

Arabs were great history writers of that time. During the time of the Prophet Muhammad (saw) his companions used to make great effort to learn Hadith by heart and protect it and pass it on to next generations . The companions of the Prophet might have heard it in one sitting but further generations heard it from different narrators.

If we applied this criteria on history,,its a big issue 😂

the chain of narrators or isnad, will usually go from bottom to the top. the topmost is the 'direct' listener from the mouth of Rasulullah s.a.w. . The meaning of 20 narration chains is not 20 narrators to the bottom, but a single line of narrators who have heard i.e from Abu Hurairah r.a. So meaning the second from the top will have his/her own chains of narrators. Each of these narrators from top to bottom has a criteria / checklist of whether / how they are to be trusted. And bottommost is usually an author of book of hadith i.e Bukhari, Muslim, Ibnu Majah etc

Note. The first column is Abu Gureira who heard it from the prophet. The second column is Jaabir who heard it from the prophet. Etc.

Alsalamualaykom. May Allah guide your dad to Islam. I want to say that Sheik Othman Ibn Farouq is a scholar yes. He has a master degree in Islamic studies specifically in Hadith.

Dad looks gorgeous in Old Dutch style beard.

Brother, if you cannot imagine what the sheikh said by only his words, I suggest you take a paper and draw how it should look like. For example, under Abu Hurairah got 20 chains, you draw 20 lines. Next Jabir RA you draw 11 lines. You see the circle with arabic number in it? That's how much chains under each narrator. You draw all lines under those 10 narrators. By doing this, I hope you can understand how intricate and complex the research of hadith is, and the term "science of hadith" is not an simple metter. Wallahualam

Alhamdulillah, now dad gets a better understanding.

Each chain is either ancestral or from teacher to student.

Alhamdulillah for this sweet science in Hadiths. No other religion on planet Earth has this checking and vigorous grading and preservation. Allah Hu Akbar...

you must remember that most people at the top of the chains wouldn't have been literate, people who could read were considered EXTREMELY knowledgable at the time, they were the scholars of the time. Also writing material like ink, pens and paper weren't that widely available at the time considering most people couldn't write anyway and that's why it would only have been written down at that point BUT: the purple / "writers" highlighted there were those who wrote the hadith out in compiled form, earlier writers would've done things like carve words into leather with blades or carve them in stones etc. considering what we just covered regarding reading material

He is scholar and he has a master degree in science of Hadiths

Sir has very glorious beard. May Allah guide me too to have one like that. Im a born muslim and still i could not keep beard

May Allah accept your efforts and make us from among those who are at the service of Allah every single day.

Point to add - some of the original narrators, like Abdullah ibn Amr bin Aas did write down the hadith. They just didn't compile a mass distributed hadith book. While others has absolutely spectacular memories, like Abu Huraira. Abu Huraira could be re-read several hadith he narrated, and identify one word differences. From the next generations, some narrators are known to have such memories that they could memorize a book just by reading it, and they had to cover one page to avoid memorizing it before the next page. In contrast, in this age we have trouble remembering phone numbers . Even a squirrel, can remember where he hid/buried/scattered food for the winter, and we can't remember where we kept the keys a lot of the time. So we don't have a context of how solid memory was.

Brother Daniel please have some patience and listen to the entirety of explanations before jumping to your conclusions right away that will certainly help you look at the bigger picture I wish you and your family all the blessings

They use to Memorize it. They use to revise it, in Khutba on Friday, they use to give khutba and mention HADEES.

The main point is that at that time paper was not yet invented ( respectivelly not spread in Arabia ) and it was very expensive to have something where you can write something down ( you had to sloughter a camel or something like that and take the lether for that or make some date leefe that will probably not last very long ) so the mane way of transmitting information was oral until the technique of creating papers came to arabia and one could write books!

I believe gaining some knowledge on the life of the prophet which includes his companions can benefit you both to put things a bit further into perspective. And please watch Dismantling Hadith Rejectors from The Muslim Lantern since some of the questions you had from the last time and this time are addressed there.

hi, i wanted to say, i am an arab guy who lives in Malaysia, and I thought when you are recording the video I could be there to explain more if you want.

It is not forcibly written. A chain is a string of " *this guy* said that *this guy* said that *this guy* said...." until the guy who said "the prophet (pbuh) told me or told us" the last person in the chain was in direct presence of the prophet (pbuh)

The Arabs at that time period did not know how to read or write. It was an oral culture. Their memory to narrate exact words were beyond what we could imagine in modern day. They literally had poetry battles. Like rap battles. And the news would spread “did you hear that so and so said this and humiliated them”. Poetry/speech was the most respected art form and who ever could out “poet” the other was the victor. That is why the Quran was even MORE of a miracle (some called it sorcery) because of how beautiful it was and it out did everyone else orally. And in it even challenged others to create more beautiful words. I think this will be like a simple farmer or laborer one day makes a computer/phone that is light years ahead in tech and asks can anyone beat this tech I just made?!

They wernt written down so everything is being teached orally until gets passed down until it recorded by someone who writes it in his book if somthing is being taught like that you know how chinese whispers work so for everyone to say the same thing thats what's amazing exact same words

Omg i would love for you guys to meet Shaykh Uthman especially with your Pops because even I, myself, am learning even as a born Muslim! 🎉🎉🎉

19:00 they were recorded but not collected in a book. as there were writers of the Quran there were also writers/memorizers of hadith, which are 2 different groups so there wouldn't be any confusion.

As a Muslim, I can advise you this: 1) During the life of profit Muhammed (Pbuh), he said whoever wrote anything down from me, except for kuran, burn it. 2) All the hadiths collected 150 or more years later after profit Muhammed (pbuh)'s death. 3) in Kuran, Allah says, I have completed your religion, from now on, no other religion will be accepted. 4) in Kuran, Allah guarantees to protect Kuran until the day of Judgment. There is no other guarantee given for any other book. 5) Allah is the only one that has a right to Legister on its own creations. That's to say. Only Allah, can say what the rules are about the religion. 6) Because profit Muhammed (pbuh) is his messenger. He cannot add, subtract or change anything to kuran. 7) if something is forbidden, only Allah can forbid it. 8) Muhammed (pbuh) is the last messenger of Allah. 9) When people started to convert to Islam, some people kept believing and practicing their own old beliefs, after a while, these beliefs started to seep in to islam. Most of the time, they made up "Sayings of Muhammed (pbuh)" to justify it. 10) Kuran is the only book that is SACRED in ISLAM.

The 20 people under Abu Huraira are the the people who passed the hadith from one another orally till the hadith was written down in a book... Coz at the prophet time the hadith was passed down from a companion to another companion or to the next generation orally untill scholars gathered all those Ahadith and wrote them down by their narration for their authenticity..

The narrations were written down already, the names In purple just compiled them together.

Good explaination by Sheikh Uthman.

13:27 Brother if Jabir RA learn the hadith from Abu Huraira RA, then he will be written on the chain of narration as under Abu Huraira but he's not, it means Jabir RA hear it himself directly from the Prophet SAW just like Abu Huraira RA hear it directly from the Prophet SAW. The book of hadith is not written or compiled lightly, it has going through extensive research from the scholars of hadith. That's also why we have different grade of the authenticity. And how we can differentiate between the true sayings of the prophet SAW, and the fabricated one. Because people did try to fabricate hadith for their own benefit, but thanks to the science and the scholar of hadith, we can differentiate them.

May Allah guide your father to islam as soon as possible

Alhamdulillah, Subhanallah....some of us has just embark on their journey on the right path to Allah, yet has done more than most of us that been borned into the journey. Sheikh Uthman is one good example and it is obvious that love for Allah is simply his reason. May Allah keeps us all guided through his sincere servants. Wa'alaikum salam, Brothers..Allah loves those who are ever seeking to improvement in their journey, that alone is great. Thank you for this video, may all of us stay steadfast on this journey. Insya'allah... Aamiin 🤲

The chain of line means they only heard it from the previous guy. And also knows that all the people that they knew it from. Meaning they knew the hierarchy. And each of this chain states that I didn't heard or learnt it from another person except this hierarchy. Meaning its independent.

Abu Huraira and Jabir and others directly heard from Prophet Muhammad ﷺ and from Abu Huraira heard his companion and from his companion heard next companion same goes with Jabir and others. For Better understanding there are many videos available on RU-vid in English, You can check out.

Shaykh uthman is quality ! 🤲🏻

Brother I love you for the sake of Allah swt Daniel and dad are best of humanity and will be with the prophets in heaven inshallah ☝️🤲💚🇵🇸

abu huraira, jabir, abu bakar and other people in top row listened the hadith directly feom Propher Mihammad SAWW