Dad's DRUM & BASS Clinic

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Although Christian now works as a media composer his route into orchestral began working within the first wave of drum and bass with the likes of LTJ Bukem and MC Conrad (via a stint composing music for porn films). In this clinic Christian discusses the way he would prepare a drum loop for programming compared to Logic's latest Beat Breaker plugin.
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@johnwdoyle 7 месяцев назад

I love those moments when someone's on autopilot, zipping through their workflow and they just do a thing you didn't know was a thing! Every day's a school day!

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

It is, thats why I love this business, we all learn from one and other.

@derived-doom 7 месяцев назад

Stopped after 10 minutes... The old man's style was so cool to see, I've to take my sampler and old rehearsal tapes from my metal band two decades ago. I like the idea to understand what is actually happening in order to value the functionality of a tool... Thanks a lot!!!

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

thanks for watching.

@TheOnjLouis 7 месяцев назад

AS someone who got thrown in at the deep-end of Drum and Bass back in 2021, I’m still in beautiful awe of how these beats come about. I does the chord things, and my producer does all the beat things. I’m still learning how it’s done, so this is incredibly helpful. If anyone’s curious I’ve been working with Zero T, and been learning a lot in the process.

@CarDrifter007 7 месяцев назад

Love your work dude. Incredibly inspirational. Discovered you through Killburn! Cool to hear that you are diving into the production of dnb as well!

@TheOnjLouis 7 месяцев назад

@@CarDrifter007 Aah thanks a lot, it’s been quite an interesting few years for sure. I never thought that would be me, but I find I absolutely love it. Bringing cool melodies and grooves to DNB is quite a challenge but a fun one never the less.

@richgreenmusic2211 6 месяцев назад

Love your and Zero T work together, the Kilburn Ep zbd Kilburn park are top quality. Everyday Struggles and Spiritual Sounds hold a special place in my heart❤

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for your kind comment.

@richgreenmusic2211 6 месяцев назад

@@TheCrowHillCo well Christian its much deserved and to you too! You're very inspiring. Please check out Zero T 's music if you haven't already. The mark of a master is someone who can write hard and soft tracks with equal ease and he can do it so, so well. On making beats,I'm both a budding composer and DnB producer with some releases out there (Amante) and i either make my beats from scratch in Reason Re-drum or if i want original breaks iuse the dr rex and choose from the many in a the dnb rex refill pack - they can all be exported to midi and it auto maps the individual break hits for easy manipulation! So quick to do!

@MixedByDotRob 7 месяцев назад

Your manual beat chopping is so much more musical than the Logic beat muncher! It's the difference between "making music" and "toying with loops".

@groovining 6 месяцев назад

The old man style whilst being incredibly tedious to set up is the only way for me! I love the idea of having all the pieces of the puzzle premade and then you just have to focus on programming and sequencing to work your way through the maze. You could even resample the Beat Break plugin, chop it all up and add that back to your sampler instrument. 'Edit' you did that at the end! Love when you dip back into your old workflows for jungle/dnb. ✌😊

@thaddeuscorea 6 месяцев назад

Your description of "Music by Graphic Designers" is spot on. Love your chop-up system.

@artprojectsnz 7 месяцев назад

Love the ‘music graphic designers’ comment……so true…and NOT always bad by all means! Old mans style still rocks padre

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Olllld maaaaaan!

@RussArteaga 6 месяцев назад

Enjoying watching this viddy when all of a sudden I see it. My second favorite films poster of all time!!

@dwukMUSIC 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing this.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for your comment.

@kikkirow 7 месяцев назад

This is really fun! Your method of chopping everything is extremely tedious and highly engineered. For the general user I think this plugin is amazing and looks quite fun. Fl Studio had a plugin similar to this back in the day with less capabilities. Amazing job 🎉

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

I think my brain works in a way that is making vs creating. So I like engineering my tools before I get lost in that weird spaghetti of musical thought. I can't do both at the same time.

@teaman7v 7 месяцев назад

Dropping a wamping bass then calling it 'Dad Dance' made me feel so old!

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, drum and bass is not a new thing... If I was listening to something that old when I was a kid I'd be listening to stuff from the 1950s!

@dannycampbell6223 7 месяцев назад

Gordon Bennet this took me back, I have an S3000XL in my studio which conveniently fills a gap in the rack but back in the day it was an essential piece of kit.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

I'm tempted to buy an old EMU ESI32 to take myself back there.

@scottyharp 7 месяцев назад

What a trippy, unexpected treat of a video! I AM THE FIRESTARTAH!!

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Yeah I think I went a bit fast!

@humfreee 7 месяцев назад

A tip for my fellow oldies doing the "manual style'' : Set pitch bend range on the sampler to -12 semis and then record an automation lane with the pitch wheel whacked down. Then half the BPM in the sequencer. Now you only have to play your beat chops at half the speed. Once you've recorded your chops get rid of the automation and increase the BPM again.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

So true!

@jackduxbury1632 7 месяцев назад

Thank you Sensei 🙏

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

ha ha! Drum up, drum down, drum up...

@nosysknows 7 месяцев назад

Nice stuff. Hadn't seen anyone wander through Beat Breaker yet and the one time I opened it up I wandered off. I really do love iZotope's Stutter Edit. I'll tend to put together a whole bunch of random garbage fed through stutter edit and then bounce that and start chopping with it. That kit workflow you showed off is pretty brilliant. Need to mess around with it.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Thanks, my thing is I can't do tech stuff at same time as music stuff. I think its because I'm working to picture so the music and the story are taking up too much of my brain to break off and chop a loop, so I'm a big fan of preparing... Its also a way to procrastinate productively.

@stephentrott 7 месяцев назад

Really enjoyed this. Thanks. Whenever I see producers working with breaks in live or logic, I thank my lucky stars for Dr Rex and the .rex format from propeller heads. Combined with the MPC style Kong sampler, it's just a dream for breaks. I'm always surprised I don't see more people using it.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Yeah ReCycle, just checked, they still sell it!

@pigknickers2975 6 месяцев назад

There was time when you could drop .rex into logic but that stopped somewhere. Was it v10 it stopped, not sure, but I used to be big on Recycle, still running a copy here. Remember when Recycle came out, it was an amazing thing.

@paulc7798 6 месяцев назад

Break Tweaker & Stutter Edit by Izotope & BT. I have these and they is great but I much prefer your way of doing this old style. The old way you can focus more on the beat you want rather than having an automatic beat that you can change so quickly that it is becomes more more more. Glad you are still around doing videos. More please :)

@womagrid 7 месяцев назад

I just discovered the slice and multi sample engines in UVI Falcon. The sound quality is astonishing.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Will have to take a look.

@172Break 6 месяцев назад

It was UVI who wrote the original version of Spectrasonics Stylus plugin in 2004 so they know a few things about cutting up beats!

@lukechable7136 7 месяцев назад

Amazing and well placed/timed edits can make ones hair stand on end - overuse however dilutes the affect... There was a time that little insecty sounds and mini edits were the 'in thing', and it the offending genres definitely lost the musicality in certain artists search for the 6,000 edit per minute progressive house record! Also, didn't even realise this plugin was available. Enjoyable to see your breadth of knowledge and skills is far wider than simply film/composing!

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

I have a very VERY shady past.,

@lukechable7136 6 месяцев назад

Well we're in good company then!

@mopanda81 7 месяцев назад

big dad energy A+

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Dad on the dancefloor throwing some sheeeeapes!

@brianholtzmusicsound 7 месяцев назад

Love the bits you've shared here and will need to play this again, again. Also, just thought I'd mention that I don't think your parrot moved for the duration and it may not be well. Check for nails.

@m22110 7 месяцев назад

Parrot? That’s a Crow

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Thats no parrot!

@leozebiosthor6242 6 месяцев назад

"This is gold Jerry, gold!!!"

@the_real_kieganjones9932 7 месяцев назад

Thanks, Dad

@TheCrowHillCo 7 месяцев назад

Ha ha ha!

@TemmeSikkema 6 месяцев назад

Us dnb fans may be elderly, and modern tools may be convenient. But your original slicing and dicing sounded WAY cooler to me, mister Henson. By the way, have you seen the Final Fantasy 16 Echoes of the Fallen trailer yet? Tons of Amen breaks in there, to the point I started to check whether you composed it hehe

@16914 5 месяцев назад

its seems cool alot of trial and error but you sir are expertise

@aliceallencello 7 месяцев назад

I’ll need my jumper back soon Christian

@TheCrowHillCo 7 месяцев назад

Ha ha ha!

@Biffinnbridge 6 месяцев назад

Never getting that time back 🥱

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Oi, we all in this together doing our thing. Be nice! This industry is 50% lunch and there is one degree of separation between all of us. xxx

@mark-ze4en 7 месяцев назад

Nice video. Noticed you are running, what appears to be. a Focusrite interface. Is that what you are running midi signals through to the mac? Maybe someday go through your midi setup and latency config?

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Just via USB direct into the computer, nothing fancy on latency.... 256.

@pongtrometer 7 месяцев назад

I hope it can or will be able to assign the library of stutter effects by qwerty ⌨️ as well as music keyboard 🎹 , then you can bring the live performance aspect to the loop and keep the energy dynamic.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

I agree! Using a fader to control such stuff is a total fudge,

@Riktenstein 7 месяцев назад

Might have to give that a rewind.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Yeah I didn't get it either, and I made the thing.

@mcconrad9223 7 месяцев назад

Putting the kettle on for this! Hold on 😊

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Drum and kettle,

@mcconrad9223 6 месяцев назад

@@TheCrowHillCo thats the 1st thing i've seen in logic in a long time that's actually made me want to jump back into it and start using it for production again.

@ThatOtherMikeyGuy 7 месяцев назад

I'm interested in some of the new features in that Logic 10.8 update, but I can't install it without first upgrading the OS on my Mac and that always fills me with terror - who know what plugins will suddenly stop working? I think I'm more likely to stick with my old-school method of beat-smooshing, which isn't a mile off yours.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, I had to, was kinda forced to. It was (and still is) an utter nightmare.

@donnydarko7624 7 месяцев назад

Well, the drum breaks are rarely processed that little. They almost always are chopped in more of a staccato fashion, and its common to set the chops up to choke each other so when you play a chop before the last chop has finished playing it cuts the prior one off. For the "playstation" ambient jungle of that era also there's always like an uplifting or ethereal pad played almost straight through the track, and the bass that was the most common for that was a sine bass, because it was a tone that came with the Akai S950 sampler.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the tips!

@donnydarko7624 6 месяцев назад

NO problem I love chopping breaks to finger drum with. If you want to see the master of Drum and bass finger drumming look up Spinscott, He is amazing! @@TheCrowHillCo

@tbirdparis 7 месяцев назад

This all looks vaguely familiar, did Apple just buy that glitch/beat programming plug in BT made several years ago?

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Its not as fully featured, and even though BT's was something you could loxse yourself in, it was also very performanced based which I don't think muncher is.

@DeeLope333 7 месяцев назад

I need you in my life 👌🏽💯😜

@cornerliston 7 месяцев назад

There's only one word: Booyaka!

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Spot on.

@Wolfbabypuppylove 7 месяцев назад

Izotope stutter edit Christian 😃

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

I know... Its more musical.

@RobertGS-ww2ol 7 месяцев назад

made this dad want to "bust some shapes".. :-)

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Throw some diagrams on the dancefloor.

@pawnotdaw4559 7 месяцев назад

Colossus looks lonely. Give it some love.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

So true.

@ShiningHourPop 7 месяцев назад

Needs more guitars! 😅

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

So true

6 месяцев назад

Don't you mean cowbell?

@bassManDavis1953 7 месяцев назад

Lost me completely But great to watch christian x

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Watching it back I don't think I got it either!

@sooperheep 7 месяцев назад

So logic just copied shaperbox, kinda lame

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

I wonder if they acquired it, like they did Camel Audio.

@iggswanna1248 7 месяцев назад

zig zaggy

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Big Breakfast?

@SongwriterPlayer 7 месяцев назад

Sounds really good, but too complicated and too busy for commercial music, the odd "bits" distract from the melody and in my humble opinion the focus of the music and potentially the song that would be overwhelmed by the drums sounds being the main focus. I am old school too, I use a Roland XP80 with a Roland XR & JV2080 to sequence my tracks, real 1990s old school, and build tracks and songs in that format. I prefer less complicated.

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

I wouldn't call this a piece of music, more a demo of my chops.

@mlwsf 7 месяцев назад

With you here I was wondering if Labs was dead?

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

I resigned and I am not on the board so genuinely not sure what their plans are.

@mlwsf 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the update.@@TheCrowHillCo

@sea-saw2654 7 месяцев назад

Amazing video but I feel like a chimp having string theory explained to me…

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

TBH on watching it back I didn't know what the fuck was going on either.

@AndreaGiordaniComposer 7 месяцев назад

Filthy stuff! 😎

@SMYAH 6 месяцев назад

FL Studio got this plugin since forever, it's called gross beat.

@GuildOfTheBlackCrow 7 месяцев назад

Literally didn't understand any of this.

@kevinhuman6275 7 месяцев назад

👍

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Neither did I when I watched it back #chillontheeditinghenson!

@vacuumelite2065 7 месяцев назад

Fair play Gov. But nothing new or innovative. More like a trap or cage....to emulate a past genre. No worries. It is of real help to youngers who may steer in a new direction. You still the Boss. 😎

@TheCrowHillCo 6 месяцев назад

Thats the idea!