@@josecarlosbellini6181 First she lost Viserys, her last sibling and close family. Then she lost Drogo and her child. Aemon had no means of reaching her, far too old and committed to the Night's Watch. Her eventual discovery of Jon as her nephew strangely did not settle well with her, bc D&D chose to do that. She saw him as a threat and yet loved him at the same time. He eventually pushed her away. She lost her allies, Jorah, Barristan, Missandei, two of her dragon-children, Varys who conspired to assassinate her, and finally Tyrion. In the end, she was alone with only her weapons of war (Drogon and Unsullied/Dothraki). No support, no love, no empathy.
She did an amazing job to bring Daenerys to death too, its not the actress to blame, its the bad writting, she had no choice but to do her job, and even if the writting was bad, she delivered.
Say what you want about the rushed and disappointing final season, but I thought Emilia played her role perfectly. (especially since she had to flip the crazy switch so quickly)
Ella hizo un excelente trabajo, merece ganar algunos reconocimientos. de haber tenido la oportunidad de trabajar mas al personaje en esa nueva faseta se que lo habria hecho maravillosamente
Flip the crazy switch on so quickly. What in the fuck are you on about. She did not go crazy when she heard the bells end of..... Please re-watch episode 5.... She sat there in the throne room of Dragon Stone and discussed the fact she was going to burn it and innocents. So before she got to KL she was going burn it down. The bells were a plea for her to change her mind and not burn it down..... But she didn't, she stayed with her original plan.... So I ask again.... Wtf are you on about flicking a crazy switch... Complete shit.
@@nataliacastilla2406 Actually, while Dani was burning the town, there was a lot of Wild Fire bombs planted inside the town, you can see green flame sprouting from houses when the dragon spewed fire on the. Quite possible!!
Jesus, the 8th season wasn't as bad as some keyboard warriors are claiming. Everyone's just overly sensitive because GoT is a show that gets the viewer so emotionally attached to the characters and everybody had this mental image of how they wanted it to end(including myself). But would you have rather there not been an 8th season at all? Even though it was clearly rushed(probably because the writers took the Star Wars job), the amount of people online whinging is ridiculous. Have some respect for the actors/actresses and people who worked on set at least. Would you be this disrespectful in front of the actors? Fuck no. AND you probably already rewatched the 8th season anyway. Stop hopping on the fucking bandwagon.
@@tedschellenger1170 oh please so much errors and bad writing. English isnt my first language so i cant explain these errors but there are interesting videos on youtube about why season 8 sucks
@@tedschellenger1170 Actually, the actors and actresses themselves were disappointed by the season. It was that bad. The show writers didn't even try, which people have the right to complain about because it's their watching that got the show so big for so long.
Ted Schellenger no, there were plenty of problems, it was rushed, people teleporting from the wall to dragonstone etc are problems that have been happening since season 7..... the ending was good but it’s how they got there with rushed character development etc..... fans have invested time and money into the show and do have a right to speak up when they think they’re not getting their money’s worth due to poor writing... people like you who say “it’s not that bad” are what allow writers to ruin shows... George RR Martin himself said the show needed 13 seasons tie propoly fleshed out.
Cersei used her people as shield because she can't face Daenerys face to face. No one from Lannisters or Starks won't bend the knee just like that. Arya knew it, Sansa knew it and even Cersei knew it too.
nhb yeah. Robb not marrying that ugly incest woman was bad writing as well because that was so dumb and an unnecessary sentimental decision to make which resulted in something terrible happening. You just hate it because the internet told you so lol
The most iconic character on this show. Not the fairytale hero you root for because it’s *expected* of you without any real need for thought. A multidimensional masterpiece. RIP to the one true Queen, not of the Iron Throne, but of this entire series.
The importance of Olenna's speech was truely underestimated back in season 7. She was the first who suggested Daenerys to be ruthless, to embrice herself for what she really is, to lead as the Targaryen bloodline impose. Due to the fact that House Targaryen has Valeryan blood and magic roots, madness and hunger for power are her destiny and downfall, even if Dany tried to be "more than that" ("more than mother of dragons"). The phrase "let it be fear, then" was so meaningful: she has always wanted to be loved from people (those times are the best moments for her character development, she is compassionate and kind there). And now, in Westeros, she’s spent all this time fighting for people she thought should love her, and when she realizes they never will, she’s willing to let their world burn to punish them. As Olenna said: "[here in Westeros] they won't obey you unless they fear you". So, at the end, love and fear have the same value in her eyes. There's no middle ground.
@@LegendInThaMakin True. They seized the opportunity to take full control of the Reach by submitting when House Gardener got wiped out in Aegon's conquest.
And the Mad King never even managed to "burn them all"... Not just that, but the population of King's Landing has probably grown significantly since his rule. Daenerys literally became worse than Aerys ever was.
Yet she burned them anyway. The mad king never managed to actually “burn them all” but she did. She became worse than him. Doesn’t matter if she laughed or enjoyed it because they all burned to death anyways.
@@ineedmoreflavour1955 why do you fair weather fans always say that shit. It was never the main story.. the show is called game of thrones. Not game of the night king... He was never the main story or even main threat. He was something they would have to over come before the throne. Nothing more. Nothing less.
@@americanrebelking8337 Then why the fuck do the whole White Walker plot in the first place? Besides, the story is not called 'a game of thrones', its called 'a song of ice and fire'. Despite concentrating on the 'thrones' aspect of things, the show still used the 'song of ice and fire' story, plots, characters, and setups. If they wanted to deviate from George's work dramatically, then they should have done that from the beginning.
SK ASFAQ HOSSAIN The saying goes for when someone trying to uphold principles for the sake of good and restore order but by doing so for so long eventually find unbalance or fall victim to contradiction in their beliefs This doesn’t apply because Danny chuked her principles and morals out the fuckin window
@Axel - right, that's interesting. I can say Daenerys was set to "go mad" for a while, also agree the writing was disgusting, but stand by my favourite character (DT), but all the hate for Daenerys is a bit weird. You're right, I don't think I ever saw anyone mention that explosion in the Sept, the bell crashing into the streets, buildings burning, innocents dying... I guess Dany's "overwhelming evil" at killing innocents erased all the dead innocents always and everywhere. bs!
Danny had many reasons to burn that city, to destroy everything Cersei had built and imagined. She gave them a chance to surrender but oh..you want to surrender after beheading her family in front of her? Nah, you asked for war, you get it. Perhaps the civilians did not deserve it but as a Queen, Cersei failed, she should be blamed. Her death wasn't satisfying enough. Danny gave options and they refused so she took back what was hers, with fire and blood. I'm glad she cleansed that city of vermin, but sacrifices must be made.
@@hollyxs6212 Bulshit, she herself said she will take it back with blood of her enemies, not blood of innocents. Cersei did not surrender, not them. People in KL did not kill Missandei, they were not responsible for Cersei's action. And what is important, they surrendered and basically betrayed their Queen to surrender. Civilians and army, everyone. She decided to slaughter them anyway, she could take the throne and Cersei, they cleared her way. She decided to slaughter them anyway. There was not any need for sacrifice.
She’s always my queen. So many people see her as the villain. But nobody sees everything she gave for her country. All of her friends. Two of her dragons. Her hand betrayed her. She did everything she could to circumvent violence. And in the end violence was her only choice. Every choice before that led to every loss she’d ever had. Her own brother betrayed her. Nobody could go through everything she did and not come out broken on the other side
So true, but in the end, when she saw that she won the final war and heard the bell, she had an option to just kill cersei or destroy the castle. But she killed innocents and destroyed the entire city. I still love her but when she heard the bell, if she had stopped there and waited for her army to conquer the city, she would have lived and ruled westeros, which is a happy ending for me :((((
Basically everyone followed her as a hero but in reality some heroes end up tragically doing bad things in the name of their cause. Jaime was trying to reform himself and be his best self with a woman who was positive for him, Brienne, but like so many he couldn’t overcome his addiction to a negative toxic partner. Jon was the classic leader and hero who didn’t want to be a hero but he got a relatively quiet unglamorous ending unlike most of these fantasy heroes. Basically George RR Martin wanted to break fantasy and narrative tropes in Game of Thrones and he did just that. There’s a beautiful realism to his story because things didn’t work out perfect nor even as expected for most characters, just as life never works out as expected
Sopia I think that what she meant when she said that violence was Danaerys only choice was that it was her only choice in her mind to achieve her life goal of taking the iron throne back for a Targaryen. She didn’t have to kill the innocent civilians but she did it to send a message to the rest of Westeros to fear her. She says clearly at the end of the season, “I don’t have love here I only have fear” especially combined with Jon’s rightful claim to the throne she felt her grip on the throne would be very weak if she didn’t make Westeros fear her. The KL massacre was notice to rest of Westeros, look at what I can do, don’t try and take the throne away from me or your cities will be next. However of course it backfired because she never expected her former lover and nephew Jon would kill her.
@@JoeKickass324It may seem like a joke but plot wise, this theory is legit for real if you imagined he gave her some love like he did in season 7, and made her come North with him. Damn Jon, see what you've caused, the big D would have saved them, now she's chosen Fear because she doesn't have love Lol.
@@yikes4946 her dad wasn't always the mad king, he was imprisoned and tortured in a dark dungeon for months which turned him mad. He didn't go mad listening to bells.😂
Repping Yara, the only one to stay true to Daenarys and serve her cause, she knows what it feels like to have everything ripped away from you and seek vengeance.
Daenerys' "cause" ended up becoming "finish daddy's work." Good thing she got a gutful of steel. Just because Daenerys was the *preferred* monster doesn't mean she wasn't a *monster.* It just means she won the popularity contest.
@Not Alfie That’s the classic poor justification mix, but it still doesn’t make sense. The writing is unjustifiable. Being hot headed and impulsive has nothing to do with it. That’s not what madness or evil is. In fact evil is cold and calculating. Like Cersei or Littlefinger. Or Sansa in season 8. Arya baked a cake with Frey’s sons. Sansa fed the dogs with Ramsey. I find that far worse than any death Daenerys has ever executed. Much greater perversity and cruelty. None of the people Daenerys killed were innocent. So you can’t justify it either. She didn’t kill civilians or innocents in 81 episodes. Madness or evil take years to complete. Nobody gets like that in a week. She had already lost her son, her husband and her people in one day. It doesn’t make any sense.
@Not Alfie Madness doesn’t work that way. It’s so ridiculous. She goes crazy in one episode, but she forgives Tyrion for a sudden death and still loves Jon. Also Drogon doesn't kill Snow and the unsullied neither. hahaha Season 8 is low-quality humor.
she wasn't mad being mad is being mentally insane and not knowing what you doing Daenerys knew what she was doing of they never killed misundae and her dragon she would not have burned down KL out of anger and depression
@M P Dragon's don't surrender, they burn things down hence fire and blood. After all did we forget that Yara thought the same thing? Danny is a dragon, and dragons destroy their enemies root and stem. It's not foreign ether, Danny did this with all of Slaver's Bay. Literally the one reason no one complained then was because they were slavers and the city still stood.
Daenerys stormborn. Of house Targaryen. Queen of the seven kingdoms, queen of the andals and the first men. protector of the realm. Khaleesi of the great grass sea, queen of Meeren, the unburnt, the breaker of chains, the mother of dragons, the queen of the ashes
@@thisguy976 Not true. She wanted to burn their defences and soldiers. Not innocent people. If Cersei wouldn't have killed Missandei, Daenerys would've listened to the bells and not burn Kings Landing.
Please,you're wrong,and you don't understand just how bad the show is. Jon was right damn there,and he stood like a fucking retard.. He didn't show her love,he didn't even talk for the WHOLE EPISODE. Holy shit,this is bad writig. Jon is her equal.He can talk to her...Make a stand. Not only "You're my queen"... Tell her,pfff...i don't know,"We'll rule together"...fuck me.. You get my point.
No, its wasnt. Daenerys wanted to overthrow the current monarch of westeros, thats why. She could blame anything, like; "they stole the throne from my family; that ruler is evil; i can do better". Thats all excuses to be the only in charge.
And yet they're calling him the conquerer. I don't know Why they call her the Mad Queen. And That's what we call btw a real friend who kept her promise to Missandei. I don't know where is the problem.
@@gnagna01 Exactly. Aegon 1 burned an entire city and annihilated an ancient family in just a few hours. Heck she should have burned Winterfell first just for fun.
Ash Hou Um but aegon was still cited as one of the great kings and everyone aspired to be like him 🧐 also conqueror obviously held a “positive” connotation there if aegon literally named himself that. In Westeros that word equals power and means everything.
@@gnagna01 she wasn't Mad, she made a choice, just like Typing chose ti destroy Castamere and everyone there, or Aegon to attach Dorne in retaliation. Also, Aegon was Technically an Ursurper, why? He have no right to westeros, to any kingdom, thats why he conquered. Through right of conquest he became king, and the descendant of the previous kingd/queen lost there rights. Just like Robert Baratheon had no right to westeros, but Through right of conquest became king, and the Targaryens lost their right to the throne.
Daenerys was humiliated all her childhood by brother. It's important to remember because character based on it. She was trying to help weak people, cause she had been weak. She is a protector of innocent people. She imprisoned her dragons in a cave cause one child was killed. Do you think really this person would burn innocent people?
Pasha Kislov daenerys never really cared for other weak people, the only times she did was when it was convenient for her but she really never had a problem destroying others lives for her own goals
@@ericabelll1050 Do you remember when Daenerys saves the witch and other women in the first season? Dothraki wanted to sell these women as slaves to hire ships and across the Narrow Sea and seize the Seven Kingdoms. Why Daenerys saved these women if she wanted only The Iron Throne?
they were enslaved because of her in the first place and while she may have stopped the rape because she was empathetic since it reminded her of her situation at first her solution to marry them to their rapists didn’t save them just kept them in a bad place, she killed mirri maz durr who was her slave after her husband killed him self by fucking with his wound after it was fixed
No innocent in Kings Landing,sorry!Those weren't some slaves living in that city,those were corrupt and privileged scum that lived high life while thousands were killed by Lanisters in other regions that dared to confront them.
@@BoxyTheSpaceDog There were thousands of peasants, common folk, middle class, working class people in King's Landing as well. It is a massive city were the majority of people are just people going about their lives and are not evil because of where they were born. Did you miss all of the images of them shows throughout the series.
Who's the villain is a matter of point of view. She burned those retarded peasants who decided to shelter in the red keep, thus declaring their support to cersei and her Lannister crew, so Daenerys can still be seen as the hero by points of view
@@stevenbrock528 You have absolutely no authority or credibility to decide and tell if other points of view are right or not. All you did with this comment is to offer your own opinion Also, the "unarmed" are setting themselves up as human shields fully knowing what will happen, enabling a tyrant who literally murders babies and their mothers among other atrocities Daenerys didn't kill any populations in westeros, yet they chose to follow Cerseis side
I noticed how she didn't laugh while killing. She didn't want to kill. Like Cersei said, "when you play the game of thrones, you win, or you die", and Daenerys had survived death so many times in her young life, I think she was just fed up with giving people a chance after chance and only being betrayed in return. She either fought and conquered, or she would have died.
Unfortunately, she did not trust in Tyrion since the battle in Casterly Rock. So by that time, she did not trust anyone and wanted revenge by killing Cersei. She smelled that Tyrion was looking for protecting his family, after knowing Cersei was pregnant, and he loves his brother. I think that Daenerys made a huge mistake naming Tyrion as his Hand because his family was the enemy. At the end that she paid that mistake. Also she lost her purpose after knowing John was the rightful heir and she tried to oblige everyone including herself and John to still believe in that purpose, by force the only possible result was the one we saw in the greatest SHOW I have ever seen.
This was actually built up since season 2. Daenerys has ALWAYS had mad queen tendencies and a love for "justice" aka murdering those who wronged her. As her dragons grew she started using more and more fire (just like her father) and this "plot twist" was acutally calculated. The only thing D&D did right. It was still rushed as hell in this season, but if we focus only on Daenerys we can see how this wasn't shoehorned in
@@cmoon3121 I think if they had made season's 7 and 8 BOTH 10 episodes long like allllll the other seasons the pacing wouldn't have felt so rushed. Absolutely no reason AT ALL for ending it like they did. You made Ys wait 2 years for THIS? I'm almost glad it's over so we can wipe D&D's bullshit off the board (REALLY just seasons 7 & 8) and start fresh with new material and actor's.
Then all past Valyrian Empire dragonlords are mad to. And some Targaryen dragonlords. Honorarble mentions: Aegon Conqerer and his sisterviwes. Maegor the Cruel. Aemond Targaryen in "Dance of the Dragons" civil war.
and this also gives all the conflict between the complete series and how it ends. Finally it is their decision to show Dany like a f***ing a***ole, and they achieved it... Cersei looks even better now
mike LANG "Ser" is not a typo: the title for knights within the fictional universe of the A Song of Ice and Fire book series is spelled "S-e-r" with an "e", not as "sir" with an "i" as in real life. This is just a quirk of their culture. In A Feast for Crows, however, it is once misspelled as "Sir". You’re welcome :)
"You were the Chosen One. It was said that you would destroy the masters not join them. Bring balance to the realm not leave it in darkness! You were my queen Daenerys. I loved you." - Jon Snow
Love this, love that 🙄 Unpeel love and see the causes for which love is fickle and not reliable. It was love that blinded her and got her killed by that Jon bastard. Read Machiavelli’s The Prince. It’s a very sobering book but not to the liking of the mobs who are purposefully intoxicated with ‘democracy’ nonsense and believe that sheep run the farm 😄 Love and genuine democracy presuppose levels of emotional, intellectual, and ethical development that are very rare if not inexistent. So, fear it is. 🔥
@@ehfo Yes, because D&D don't even know what Daenerys Character is all about, being ruthless to the people who deserve it and not some poor ass people in Kings Landing
"I will lay waste to armies and burn cities to the ground" sorry guys but I have been saying this about her for a long time now. Yall have been rooting for a selfish crazy queen. And yall fell for it
I wish they had either added another season or made more episodes. Her descent into madness was too quick for my liking. I do like the poetics of the situation though. Two Targaryens born at around the same time, 50/50 chance for greatness or madness for both Jon and Daenerys.
She was always like this when things didn't go the way she wanted. Her advisor were the ones who made her sane. So many times she wanted to use blood and fire to get what they wanted and they talked her out of it. Now she has no one to trust no one strong enough to stop her and she became who she was always
Daenerys is fire, indeed. She can provide light, warmth, and life...or pain, death, and destruction. That’s the kind of complexity I need in a character 🔥🔥🔥
@@mayumi841 He may have been born as Aegon Targaryen, however he is of Stark blood and was raised as a Stark. With that I hope Jon Snow abandon the Targaryen name and instead rise up to be Jon Stark true King of the North now the New King of the Seven Kingdoms. Targaryen name may die with Daenarys, for she is most likely going to die in the last episode.
FIFTY- 50 guys, I think you forget a significant percentage of the population was in the red keep as well. Even if she had gone straight to the red keep, and burned only it, a ton of people still would have died.
Sir Barristan "sometimes is better to answer injustice with mercy" , he was trying to save her from her fate, but she didnt listen. My respects to the old man.
唐智余 no Sansa said that they all have same looking cups with their name on it and the picture of Sansa and Lyana Mormont ( Dont know the actors name) was taken on episode3 where Sansa holds a starbucks cup but the real cup that was seen in the show was in the 4th episode sooo. Think about it and the cup was close to Danny ( E.C ) and thats how we know it could be hers and not Sansas.
Tyrion : oof thank god the bell rang, we lost so much because we wanted to avoid daenerys to be the queen of the ashes, but now we made it and everything is fine. Daenerys : well yes but actually no
She angry. She lost 2 DRAGON,she lost her best friend and lover For now 1 people who dany can be trusted is just grey worm. That for WESTEROS. AND WESTEROS PEOPLE RUNNING AND SCREAM LOOK DANY LIKE EVIL. THAT WHY DANY BURN THEM.
@@lucassanchez9050 maybe story must be like this. "Dany patient and send PEOPLE to westeros to gain people who trust him. After that say to them to get of from redkeep. And dany can burn without burn innocent people. "The blood of my enemies not blood of innocent" But well D&D want make unspected ending for make we shock , a bad ending.😣 Edit: maybe this is cersei fault cuz he dint realease people get of from red keep. But if dany accept (fake) surendder missandei will be not die. Arya will kill cersei and dany will be rule the seven kingdom without blood. But maybe some people will be think dany is evil like her father. Sorry bad grammar