NTSB Public Docket explains what happened. Final report from NTSB soon. Link: dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/hi... Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=5295000 Thanks for your support! Juan
C-5 thrust reverser accident was in Germany Aug 29, 1990. The Saigon accident was a rear door issue that took out all 4 hydraulic systems Apr 4, 1975. I like your channel!!!
The Babylift accident was a pressure door failure. The pilots attempted to return to Tan Son Nhut and might have made it, except that the landing gear hit a ditch just shy of the runway. Many deaths on the lower deck, including the babylift children. Most survived on the upper deck. A very sad incident. Read about it in Coy Cross' monograph: www.amc.af.mil/Portals/12/documents/AFD-150325-043.pdf
At the end of every BFR, I often get asked "is there anything else you would like to practice before we go back to the airport?" I'll put a go-around-after-touchdown on my list.
I was a Loadmaster on a C-5. The reason we lost the C-5 out of Vietnam because rear ramp blow open. The C-5 that was brought down from # 1 & # 2 thrust rev engagement on take off during Desert Shield in 1990 at Ramstein AB Germany. Everyone up front were killed. All the survivors were in the rear. The passenger compartment Loadmaster was the reason anyone survived. The crew was a reserve crew out of Lackland AFB TX. The crash was a complete lose. It was an A Model. Tail number 80228.
Makes perfect sense the way you described it, thanks so much Juan! I love that you can make these things understandable to those of us that are interested, but aren't pilots. Enjoy your trip!
He didn't come up with that. It's a common expression in the military with several meanings relevant to both on and off-duty "operations". I was USAF in the '70s and '80s and it was common in all military branches back then, frequently used in its more complete form as off-duty advice - "Go ugly early, don't get shut out." In more direct military applications, it means if something ugly is inevitably necessary, don't wait too long to do it, such as calling in air support. Some online sources say it dates back to at least the 1920's, or possibly farther (WW1). Do a search for the many US and UK military patches and other merchandise with that motto.
Great review...been wondering how those two experienced pilots could’ve messed up so badly but the accident makes a lot more sense now. Great job Juan as always! 👍
The CVR on this tells all ... they were way too fast coming into a short runway and they knew it .. hence the drop (sink rate) and stop (immediate TR's) but gravity always wins ... should have gone around at 500AGL.. very lucky souls on board that day
Yup, completely unstable approach with no vertical guidance or papi. Also, if i remember right, there is discussion on the CVR about the flying pilot planning on immediately deploying TR's on landing....which is NOT the first thing they should do. The Spoilers/Speedbrakes are the first thing that should deployed. This will help dump lift. However, their first mistake was an unstable approach
As usual a great detailed report, thanks Juan for keeping us accurately up the date. Looking forward to your detail later . Have a safe fun trip him home!!!
, Some years ago, I bought a T-shirt from a vendor at a CAP fly-in, that had a pic of a GAU-8A avenger cannon with the words "Ugly Stick" on the front, & the back a pic of an A-10 Warthog blasting a tank with, "Go Ugly, Early" underneath.
Please remember the 3 Gorge Dam when you get back. We all need your expertise on this. Thank you for the Earnhardt update, excellent explanation for a non pilot. Stay safe too in your trip...
@ 4:53 : There was a crash of Lauda Air Flight 004 (OE-LAV), a Boeing 767-300ER back in 1991 due to thrust reversers which deployed 15mins after takeoff at ? ft altitude. All 223 passengers and crew died. May they rest in peace. BTW: THX for your interesting and profound aviational stuff. I appreciate it every time.
golly. This is a first for me. I've not heard this set of events occurring n this order in my 40 years involved in flying! Thanks for this great breakdown Juan.
Well, without having detailed knowledge of this particular Citation's systems, I can still assure you that the reverse levers cannot be pulled up until the throttles are at the idle stops. Then, after they are pulled up the throttles cannot be moved forward until the reverse levers are put back down and the reversers are stowed. So, there is a lot of time and real estate gone by before a go around or touch and go can be initiated.
I recently retired as a long term flight attendant . I’ve always loved aviation. You have an excellent ability to communicate in a very down to earth way that allows people like me to learn and understand more about being a pilot. I enjoy your thoughts very much.
Good content as always - and unusual go arounds are indeed something pilots need to practice. So glad you were able to make it over here to Kansas for the ACCAs! Hope you enjoyed your stay! What a weekend that was.
Thanks for the update Juan and also thanks for all your great videos . But more importantly, enjoy your ride on the TAT and stay safe !! Happy Trails to you !!
..great job as usual Juan..in your other video back in August, I remember you noted they had departed from the Statesville airport on a short flight earlier that day and had climbed to 12.000 ft, and I was just wondering the difficulty of the mountainous terrain they were flying through during their visual descent and any turns required into Elizabethton...and also the timing of that flight to get them just a little closer to the race on that day...seems they might have been possibly approaching too high and possibly too fast...just wondering..thanks...always.enjoy all your videos..and all those while you were out here at Stearman Field this past weekend...
Jr. And family were very lucky that day, as well as the crew, I've been a Earnhardt fan for a long time, and to see that crash on video was, like wow, and see everyone getting out, was good to see.
This was a great explanation of the pilot actions combined with the oddities of the equipment operation. I look forward to your detailed interpretation of future results.
COIcultist or as my Irish friend once told me, "I've never gone to bed with an ugly woman but have surely woke up with a few" True of any gender or combination thereof. ;)
I live about 20 minutes from “Ee-Liz-uh-Beth-ton” and this is how we’ve always pronounced it. Beautiful place and has “The Mayflower” which is the best seafood place anywhere within 100 miles!!! Thanks for the video!
Hey man - thank you for the post. Keep the shiny side up and the greasy side down (or whatever the trail riding equivalent of that is). Can't wait for a Mighty Luscombe "ride report."
committed--wow you were there on this editing-- get all that back up noise outa there and end up with an informed episode on an almost forgotten incident was great- have fun on your trip- from my comphy chair-- thanks Bill
I did Not realize until lately that you had prostate CA. It is really awesome that Not only did you survive but you are thriving . I truly appreciate How you take Complex , complicated systems and accidents and brake it down Barney Style for crayon eaters. SFMF !
Watch out for moose in the vicinity of Rand, CO, and try to take some time to soak in the hot springs in Saratoga, WY, with a refreshing finishing plunge into the North Platte River just outside the gate! You might also consider diverting east at Rand or Walden, over beautiful Cameron Pass to Chambers Lake, and thence north along the Laramie River to Woods Landing and Centennial, WY, and then across the Snowy Range to Saratoga and the springs. An exceptionally scenic byway! If you have the time, you will not regret it.
Colorado Springs! I grew up there and enjoy seeing you drive over all those mountain passes (Engineers/Telluride/Idaho Springs) in Colorado. Did a lot of them as a kid in the back seat of a Jeep.
Excellent report. You will enjoy the gravel roads back through Colorado. Once you come down out of the mountains in Utah, it's very barren until you get to Reno. I guess you are having fun. It's not a trip I would want to do often. I think you will probably end up on Hwy 50 across Nevada. I think you hit that after the mountains.
Liz - ah - Beth - ton .... The East Tennessee pro-nun-c-a-shun of the town where the Dale JR plane crashed. Thanks for the update. As always, a factual, non-sensationalized report of the accident. Great reporting Juan! Now, get back to the Western TAT Adventure....... LOL.... seriously though, ride safe and take us along with you!
Go ugly early more or less = if you're not on speed and stabilized on short final, go around. This also reads to me like another case of the crew not being in sync with the automation. Very glad they all got out.
Thanks for the update Juan, go easy on those new tires for the first tank full of gas and say hi to good old Colorado Springs for me. Ride safe Captain
FYI Juan, a TR inflight deploy in a DC-8 (inboards) was normal ops as there was no inflight spoiler/speedbrake capability. From your 777/INT/LAX/FO bud.
@@blancolirio I have worked under water dropping Helos but never fixed wing, I would be very interested in watching video of you flying a drop mission and the logistical details.
@@blancolirio AA Mech here not old enough either. But...... One of your vids I watched with the music and apologize for not knowing the exact title. Time waits for no one etc.. I have been putting off TAT for while and on the ole Prost PSA etc watch since 55. Now 57 living my life through videos such as yours. Got the 13 CRf 250 L out of shed cause of this trip your on. Watch out who you inspire lol. Or should I say thanks for the inspiration? All the best. Keep em coming.
