Dale Vs Lothlorien ~ Middle Earth SBG Battle Report 

@Joan T The scenario options definitely didn't especially favor Lothlorien, kind of a tough choice either way.

Both armies are sick, amazing paintjob. Since I started watching you I started to use the veto system with my friends: they like it too, it makes Games more balanced. Cheers from Italy

Got to get the opposite objective while defending your own. You have to split up at some point.

​@@jeremyshannon7482 Then don't defend your own? In this format, loser goes home, winner plays on. So a win by 1 point is as good as a win by 10. Lothlorien have cav, and woodland creature, Dale don't, so it's likely Lothlorien can move the enemy objective much faster, and therefore further, thereby getting more points. Also, Dale have a squishy general easy to get points off (1 fate and f5 vs an f5/6 army) and Lothlorien can and should have played in such a way where the aim was to walk down the dale, stay tight, use that banner and that f value to the fullest and break dale, with your cav breaking off into the forest to grab the objective when the opportunity presents itself. If both sides manage to retrieve the enemy objective, but your elves have outfought the dale, you win. If both sides manage to retrieve the objective but you've killed or wounded Brand, you win If both sides break, no one wounds a general, but between the fact that you have cav, that move full speed through forests, and don't dismount to grab the objective, and Celeborn can immobilize the dale model with the objective, and you can leverage those into you moving the objective off the board or into your own half, you win. I think the Lothlorien player was thinking to much, and ended up getting way too cute, and gave up all the advantages he had.

If only everyone was as good as you

@@simwify His advice is solid.

@@simwify That's a cop out. Obviously it's easy to criticize and I certainly don't play perfectly in most of my games, but this was an unmitigated disaster of a game from the Lothlorien player.

100%

You're maybe being a little too harsh, if lothlorien didn't split up they would risk being hemmed in, and wouldn't be able to go after objectives/leaders. I see what the elf player was going for, just unfortunately for him the dice weren't on his side. Jeremy is an incredible player, a true strategist, and the fact lothlorien were able to hold out so long was fairly impressive.

He did use magic, cast immobilise.. I’m also a Lothlorien player and I think the main issue is army composition. Spamming Guard of Galadrhim court like that at low points is a waste, as is taking Celeborn at low points. Should take Haldir, Rumil a couple of guard, couple of riders and the rest regular warriors.

@@woodlandcreature8857 if it was a friendly game no worries, but he said at the start eight tournament veterans. So I expected veteran level gameplay. Must have missed the spell casting (sorry about that).

@@thefinalseries yeah I agree, the list could have been better. It is hard to play against large model count as well. But it is a tournament so you have to build a versatile list that can go up against armies like that.

@@purerel It might be or not be a suboptimal list. but i think it was said here and there that they were trying to make armies that are fun and maybe a little different rather than going full competitive. the easterling player took an amdur without horse on purpose (and he is afaik a very experienced easterling player)

I don't think there's a set size stated anywhere? Think you can just use the regular base size as a guide, but not entirely sure, think it's kinda left up the players' discretion.

Only one in the actually army. The list is wrong.

You can find all the lists here: www.conquestcreations.net/champions-league

They are Games Workshops trees. They are really nice

Good comment, you are correct. Jeremy only supports with one model in the fight phase

@@ConquestCreations ah, its just that he mentions spear support twice on the same model, threw me off a little bit!