Damocles - A king's fortune... but at what cost? 

monke

I just wanted to write it

He can use cheat engine and then slow down the video but then itd be like reverse 3kliksphilips technique: In his csgo skin showcase video he slows the game down and then speeds up the footage resulting in something that looks like 240 fps but is instead 60 If he sped up the game then slowed the footage he would get a powerpoint presentation

It's a good video to make if you have a lot of house work to do. :)

@@TheRealBatabii Thats how it worked in antibirth. In repentance it can just be activated or deactivated because they took out the increasing chance after getting hit multiple times

isaac gets hit and instantly speaks as if he were talking through a shitty microphone as he speedruns to get anything that would help him survive

@@awe9217 is that a reference to a certain sniper from a certain animation that happens to be about a group of friends going on a journey for the acquisition of pizza?

There needs to be a mod of this where instead of the snapping horse hair sound effect, it instead plays "I LOST THE RUN TO RNG, DUDE?!" sound byte.

Lost with holy mantle: not today buddy

Lazarus Mains be like: „I hope it drops early so I can get my damage up“

Chuckles in the lost

@@cacophonythegoblin8381 I don’t think you watched up to the part where it says holy mantle won’t save you from the sword

@@enbybunny9940 I don't think you thought up to the part where The Lost dies after taking any damage meaning he never gets the chance for Damocles to fall.

@@timmyreobed5043 Laz and the lost really amp this item up, yeah. There is no drawback for either of them effectively, and especially not on the lost.

Omg right it's almost as if that's the whole point

Damokles felt the same thing.

The story behind the sword is interesting, basically Damocles was complementing his king for his fortunate circumstances with his lavish lifestyle and all his power. His king offered to switch places with him for a day so that Damocles could have a taste of that power and lifestyle, Damocles agreed and took to his new throne, surrounded by every luxury he could ever want for however the king also had a sword installed over his throne to represent his many enemies held by just a single horse hair so that it may strike at any time and evoke the same sense of fear and anxiety in him as his many enemies evoke in the king. Damocles then begged his king to take back his power and free him of his "fortunate" circumstance. Damocles is my favorite item from anti-birth, it's such a cool risk reward item and it is amazingly flavorful and true to the story, hence the "A kings fortune but at what cost" sub title.

@@BryceLeft omg right it's almost as if you don't have to be a douche about it.

@@songbirdsandsandwiches8217 yeah i know the story i was just saying it's intimidating is all, it looks cool

Which is good IMO, it’s suppose to be a looming threat that keeps you on edge rather than a predictable occurrence.

Honestly if you take this item you're gonna want a Chariot card or a power pill at all times. Then the second you hear that snap you've a split second to activate it or you're dead

Well you can say that it's like death you can't predict when you will die, you just have to live with it and delay it.

@@temkin9298 that's true

i mean, it's just a dice rolling on a bigger scale, it can either never fall, or fall on the first proc, both are unlikely but possible

o_o

In the version I heard, the whole thing was more an object lesson on how being a king was not all fun and games, and all the wealth and power in the world didn't protect him from the metaphorical (and in this case, literal) sword hovering just above his head. Hard to enjoy wealth and power with that in mind.

I thought Dionysus was one of the

@@kirbywithaknifeisawesome6028 Dionysus is both the name of the god and the king

@@LordTyph I genuinely do not empathize with people with all the power and money.

Is just lucky on the example. Imagine dying 4 minutes after taking Damocles xd

@@LestJ you could pick it up, get hit, and die less than a second later. I love this item so much XD

He had enough time to finish the run

Oh so that's why they changed it

Same in antibirth, isn't it?

@@SenjeyB yeh, it was. I thought it was a passive

why are you taking devil deals blind

@@IsopodAqua why not I like to live on the edge

Tainted Lost: Indeed

Character with butter: yeah, takes some hits but I agree.

guy who is good at the game: theres a cost?

badman jones yeah, 2 red hearts lol

Lazarus: Huh. Neat.

wait, anxiety gives you twice the amount of the good things? do you have a premium anxiety or what?

@@powerthunfischdesdonners3086 anxiety can be used as a form of motivation, so in a way, it kinda does give you more good things if used properly, just like damocles.

Let the anxiety flow through you, harness it, let its power fulfill your desires at the cost of your peace.

Lost Players call it the free gift

@@silverdededestruction2197 and Lazarus to

@@j.hawkins8779 I'm pretty sure you lose the benefit as soon as the sword falls.

@@silverdededestruction2197 yeah, but stats up

@@j.hawkins8779 Actually no, losing the sword and respawning is practically worthless if you're only aiming for the stat up you get from reviving. Given that this item is Ultimately high risk and high reward, the moment you get hit you will not know when will that sword fall on your head. This item is practically worthless on pretty much everyone besides The Lost given that the randomness of the sword fall will immediately determine the end of your run as soon as you get hit, and even with the addition of an extra life you practically already lost the benefit of damocles.

Respect.

@@odiadordeisrael your fucking nickname

he prob sped the game up

6:07

Great nickname

the fly was the last monster that damaged isaac

@@shinoda522 Correct me if i'm wrong, but any other instance besides having holy mantle, the item Damocles gets considered the killing force. (3:07 where the sword is considered the killing entity, 3:50 where the fly is considered the killer)

@@dagazar you are right, probably it's a small bug caused by holy mantle

@@shinoda522 Makes me wonder what the intended interaction is suppose to be. We may find a bug fix in the future where holy mantle will save you, or there may be a bug fix where it just does the proper death animation.

@@dagazar ihmo the second choice, the idea would be that the sword kill you instantly, and the mantle prevents damage, not necessarily the death. plan C kills you (I remember) if you have the mantle, and also suicide King

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Considering the chances of 10000:1 after every four frames the chances of dropping on your head after 10 seconds (presumably 30 frames per second) should be around 1-0.9999^(300/4) which is about 0.7%, not *very lucky* all things considered

@@_x_m_m_6976 lmao, i don't know how to feel, lucky or very fcking unlucky

@@_x_m_m_6976 there is 60 frames per second but math it is very unlucky

@@toranix8836 There are as many graphical frames as your device can process in a second, and thirty logical frames the game uses for internal calculations.

funny

Or only if you have a 1-Up, Judas' Shadow (if not going for unlocks), Lazarus' Rags, Nine Lives, or other guaranteed extra-life item.

@@mithiwithi or if you just need that edge that the anxiety it generates gives you. In case the game was too chill lol

@@mithiwithi damage blocked by holy mantle doesnt start the falling chance, so there is basically no way for the lost to even start it.

@@MrVentches The scenario I had in mind was getting hit once to break Holy Mantle (which definitely doesn't trigger Damocles falling), then getting hit again, dying, and using a rez item. It's that second hit I was speculating as a possible source of falling.

@@mithiwithi Since getting killed by the sword and dying does not trigger other Damocles, I feel like it wouldn't activate in that way. Though maybe the Damocles killing you is what specifically resets this, in which case the lost could be hit by it.

Damn... Can't wait to see the new video tho..

I just watched your old video about this item, and you post that!? Like how?

panic button uses the item when hes about to take damage, and since the sword instantly kills isaac like plan c, it doesnt count damocles as taking damage, thats why the trinket wont work when the sword falls on isaac. please correct me if im wrong.

Can holy mantle stop the timer from sorting? Because it blocks first hit in each room

@@redd_adam The reason it didn’t activate is because panic button only activates how to jump if you are moving

I want to test this theory, but it's really hard. Havent found a reliable way to do it

@Julo Micha I mean, the tear effect increases are actually insane if you have high luck.

Imagine luck being useful in this game

@@Syncer Don't. We all know how worthless Luck stat is almost anything in the game. Doubt it works with this.

@@Syncer if it was affected by luck we would know by this time. We can always ask Edmund, but if we get an answer it's probably going to be "no"

it would be too op if it was like this i think

But it would also increase the chance of falling the more damage you took

@@scarez3423 originally , if i remember, if you got hit another time afterwards the chance for it to fall would increase, so overall its a trade of stats basically

@@alexxans1154 you could get very good items with this and just become unstopable

@@Someone72663 yeah its a very risky and reward item

drip, but no one to out-drip...

your icon is so pretty to me, did you make it?

@@saaros Yeah!

Might also make it harder to use an invulnerability item on reaction.

maybe when you first trigger it, it sort of slips and the rope starts to tear.

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I pick it if i have extreme defense or am playing either lost

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If it was such a good run then why did you take it.

Same here

Yeah I love this balance Extra items but At a high price Can you find A life?

Rock bottom is my favourite.

@@5uperM pretty cool too but with Tainted Isaac pretty OP

@@Diva-if9yy that's a good thing c:

The lost is already anxiety so it balances out. I guess that makes sense

@@bullettime1116 Standard Lost is fine. Tainted Lost is chaos

*just wait till it kills too many enemies*

@@arandomyoutubeuser4873 okay now I'm worried what does it do

@@kingjamesbond4009 *just see in a showcase or once you unlock it and obtain it*

@@arandomyoutubeuser4873 I just watched a Showcase this literally tainted Jacob

The least and most effort ever put into a video. For one he just has to wait around. But two he can’t play Isaac until he finally finishes all these examples

well i wouldnt fully call it risk reward due to the heavy rng involved, but yeah its the best we've got in that vein.

@@FakeEgirl I mean, that RNG moment is only activated if you get hit. It's risk-reward.

jacob and esau have such good unlocks but i hate them so much, i was about to get birthright but then i found the secret room in chest and pressed the 2 buttons, literally 10 monstros spawned all at once and i died nearly instantly

and the will says you were killed by a fly...

Cheater

@@gabrielandy9272 i guess, but hey, it might be useful

@Zarozapa CnJ if you making it sound louder than intended you cheatijg if i made the footsteps on cs go louder i wouod be cheating and deserving to be banned, isaac is a single player game so no bans but dont change the fact that its cheating.... However people play as they wish as i said single player game

@@gabrielandy9272 but in Isaac you could still die tho, while in CS you're just ruining the other ones experience

@@Vinistonesrrr yes the thing is people can cheat in single player games mod to make it harder or whatever it wants, but they can't say they are not doing that tho.. if u changing the sound to be louder u are not playing the vanilla game anymore... and theres nothing wrong with it... i my self mod the sims 3 to have to purchase food instead of the sim purchasing the food on the fridge.. some people may put infinite money or want mmake it easier whatever... i was just pointing it out.

Some Tainted Characters don't work on it, a little handful for the non tainted ones too. At some point of time in the future they will all get a effect

I will do it as soon as it becomes fully functional

"Currently unimplemented"

Literally everytime I had it on a specific character it was "not implemented yet". So yeah, once it fully works, it's good.

To be honest for some reason I have my doubts that it will ever be fully functional with everyone sadly.

That... happened to me... The only thing incorrect about your statement is that I'm a girl. Lol. I was fighting Delirium and got hit. No worries though because its so late into the run that it couldn't trigger, right? It did. And it did it less then 5 seconds later... At first, I didn't even know what hit me or how I died... until I seen that sword in the will. I stopped playing the game for a few weeks after that. It already shits on my enough with terrible luck that a five second sword of Damocles kill was just the final nail in the coffin.

took the item twice, died both times to it after a couple of seconds from taking damage :(

It can’t proc on them anyway since they die if they take any hit.

@@Napstablooky holy mantle

@@potatoking2161 Holy mantle doesn't count as getting hit for Damocles, same as Holy Card

It's free on Lost/Tainted Lost anyway because they can't take a hit to begin with, thus never proccing the chance for Damocles to fall anyway.

Maybe you can react to it with a chariot card or something

One conceivable scenario for it to kill you as The Lost: - Get and use Damocles - Have a 1Up or other single-use resurrection item - Get double-tapped in a room and killed. It's possible that the hit you take while dying would activate the Damocles kill effect. (I have no idea if this is the case.) This scenario may not be applicable to Tainted Lost, as there might not be any resurrection items in Tainted Lost's item pool.

If my theory is correct, there would be a _very_ remote way for Damocles to kill you as Tainted Lost, but it requires using Spindown Dice or other similar item to spawn the resurrection item, _then_ be killed once with Damocles active after taking the rez item. Someday, _someone_ will surely trigger this sequence of events, but you'd almost have to be _trying_ to do it.

I will check that again. Thank you :D

yes. just take it for the Lost and Tainted Lost.

Almost, because it will trigger if you have extra life and died

@Zarozapa CnJ *cough* birthright *cough cough*

1.- Yes, it does. 2.- Yes, multiple lives can be used to survive the fatal blow that Damocles does to the player once it falls.

1. dunno, probably 2. yes

1. yes, it can still drop 2. if you have an extra life, you will be revived if the sword kills you. but once it falls, you will not have its good sides anymore