Dandân || Friday Night Paper Fight 2023-04-14 

First time hearing about Dandân - "this is ridiculous, who would want to play this" Seeing Dandân played - "this is amazing, I need a deck in every color"

Wheeler quoting the "just innocent men" meme during Punt/Counterpunt absolutely slayed me.

This whole video reminds me of Wheeler opening Wavesifter in his MH2 prerelease kit: “That’s a nice fish.”

After the rhystic studies video dandan went live the card went up 400% at my lgs

Alex's comment about "one deck of each color" makes me want to build a version of this for colossal dreadmaw

I can't believe they didn't invite Adam Savidandân

Wheeler: Hi I'm Dan Damaged. Kathleen: and I'm here to talk about generational trauma. Gotta love when your friends set up and you just spike it

_'You've daned your last dan, Dandanny boy'_

Fun fact: at one point in Kathleen's game someone was humming the andy Griffith theme song. Ironically, The name of that song is "the fishing hole"

God I love this. The whole conceit of this format is summed up very well by Kathleen's "heehee" at 32:45

a delicious 2 straight hours of monoblue tempo mirrors

I kind of wish, somewhere in the MTG multiverse, there would be a plane with 2 planeswalkers with a bitter rivalry who are using their incredible powers to combat each other with fish in an intense battle of wits. In short, Dan-dan in mtg lore

33:23 Minor rules note: Wheeler was thinking about casting Memory Lapse, tapped his mana, then untapped to consider the line. He ends up not paying for the Memory Lapse and casts it anyways. He would not have been able to cast the second Memory Lapse from his hand because he would have been out of mana at that point. I think he still ends up winning, no not a major issue. Additionally, I saw a similar style game at Prerelease over the weekend. Someone had a cube of cards of which the 2 players had a shared library, individual graves, and access to one of each basic and a cycle of guildgates. Not sure if it has a name or just a homebrew style, but this made me think of that.

I never knew I needed Adam as Yargle.

ive been working on a mono-red variant where the only creature is Lupine Prototype, and there's six copies of Risk Factor to really lean into that shared graveyard. it also uses Brainstone, and Ignorant Bliss -- a card I had literally never heard of before making this deck!

Looking forward to the dandan secret lair

I don’t know how fun it would be but would love to see a land only Dandân variant

Thanks for the shoutout James! This is an awesome episode. Nice job. See ya in Minneapolis!

I was literally watching the VOD on twitch when I saw it was uploaded to youtube just now. So I'm engaging for the algorithm.

This format feels like exploding kittens but with magic cards, except you win by dandamage instead of bombs.

Dandân: A Bespoke Format - a SHARED 80-card deck - individual graveyards - attack opponent to win (20 life each) - Only creature in the deck is Dandân - I think that's it? Not into the gameplay just yet - Edit: just kidding it's a shared graveyard

I'd heard of the format before and was interested, but after seeing this video I had to put together my own Dandan list... one where graveyard order would matter and become a resource at that. Hopefully it won't be long until it sees live play.

Seeing this after watching Rhystic Studies seems good

Playing With Power just posted a match of DanDan, but I wanted to see more! And now LRR delivers!! I'm excited to see more fishy nonsense.

I need Dandân in my life. Thank you for showcasing Dandân, I’ll do my Dandâmndest to bring this format to my Dandân’s attention

I saw the rustic study dandân video and didn't think much of it. But watching it being played makes me want a deck

Holy sh*t I love this format!!! Please please more kitchen table style games!! Y'all are amazing and I love it!! Thank you for everything you do!!

"I think I'm just deaddeâd here" would be an excellent button

In high-school I had a beta fish named Dandan. Yea, I was that kid.

The black version could be Haakon, Stromgald Scourge, meaning you must figure out how to cast it from your graveyard. There could be a lot of “target player returns a card from graveyard to hand” effects

Excellent, as always. Thank you.

This inspired me to dig up how to get custom proxies, thank you. Looks fun, can't wait to try it out!

This needs to become a regular occurance, this was brilliant to watch

I genuinely really want to see this played again.

my goodness. this is the sickness. what a blast format

Built dandan last year, it's a supersweet format. Definitely want to try some of the other colour dandan-likes

YES!! so happy there's more dandan. Great video!!

The foot coming down in Punt/Counterpunt is very Monty Python

I like the idea of a black dan-dan that plays with 1) life payment 2) getting things out of the graveyard

18:00 "sometimes you Dan Dan, sometimes you Dan't Dan" is going to be stuck in my head forever now.

At first I was 😐but then after watching for about 10 minutes I realized this is the exact weirdness that I crave. Keep up the fantastic work.

Punt/counterpunt was hilarious. Can't wait to try this format!

I knew Dandan would be cool... But I never imagined this cool!!

An auspicious format!

31:41 - This is why this format is so much fun even if you're just watching

Wheeler just dominated that first game He seemed to have all the Danswers

I’m extremely excited for this! I was hoping you’d do a Forgetful Fish stream!

@33:12 wheeler missed tapping lands for memory lapse on the telling time

mono black dandan with ravenous rats, sorin's thirst and unlikely aid and supernatural stamina and village rites

Wheeler and Alex's match was great and the jokes destroyed my whole body. Good shit.

This video got me to buy cards to make a deck!!! I also bought cards for the creators cantrip based game too, I'm very excited for that

So I want more of this, in another colour of possible.

I love how by the end of the video the use of Dandân basically became the same as "Smurf."

I watched this and instantly made the deck

This is pretty great. Makes me want to try and create a similar format for a different color. Leaning into its color identity. I feel like black could be pretty interesting with manipulating a shared graveyard.

(engaging) I love the idea of games that use the system of magic to become original things. It wouldn't quite fit if everything were replaced by equivalent things and explained itself as original, so it creates that special stuff that is between magic and "original card game"

I was really waiting for somebody around that "PBNJ" exchange to say "can you smell burnt toast?" because I think I caught a whiff

Also, haven't seen Alex in a hot minute because I don't watch Highlander but he is so super I might start.

Holy crap, that last joke that made Alex corpse in his seat made me open a new tab just so I can make a comment!

My biggest problem with “strictly worse” discourse is that by most definitions, a positive spell that can target an opponent is better because it’s versatile and in a few occasions it’s useful, but in practice misdirecting time warps is far more common than intentionally targeting opponents. Draw spells are more complicated

Alex ! Thanks for being here it's great to see you :)

I love the room for theorycrafting. Is anyone else building one as we speak?

I feel like there is a mono red version with ball lightning, gut shot, thunderkin awakener and faithless looting, just have to figure what the rest of the deck should contain

I'm pretty new to Dandan but with this and Rhystic Studies video on it, it seems like a hilarious mental puzzle game for magic players. It seems like the sort of thing I'd love but I'm not sure until I ever manage to play it. Wheeler mentioned making a red version called Benben using the Akki Hermit and my vote is for this to become a fun mental puzzle format too. The format would likely revolve around trying to own a Benben and forcing your opponent to attack into your open Benben so that you can then blow up their Benben and start getting damage in yourself. So possible includes of things like Reroute, Mage's Contest, Molten Influence and Tibalt's Trickery as the control package. Then maybe some tricksy stuff with Bolt Bend and Crown of Flames. Using Crown of Flames on your Benben with Braid of Fire or Rituals (like Desperate Ritual, Infernal Plunge, Jeska's Will, Mana Geyser, Pyretic Ritual, Rite of Flame or Seething Song) could make for the main wincon. This also opens up cards like Avarice Totem to give the person on the back foot a good use for the rituals to steal the pumped up Benben before dying to it. Perhaps adding in Crash to have a counter to the totem as well and including Great Furnace as possible targets to redirect the Crash to if you can Bolt Bend it or Reroute it and then similarly including some Forgotten Caves of Desert of the Fervents to keep some top deck manipulation involved maybe also including Orcish Librarian or Scroll Rack for the same reason. As for the forced attack mentioned earlier things like Boiling Blood, Incite or Into the Fray or maybe the way to fuel alternate targets for the Bolt Bend and Reroute is to include Goblin Assault or Daring Piracy as ways to get other creatures to attack along side BenBen and help him get past the opponents Benben ability. Other possible includes are Might Makes Right, Furor of the Bitten, Heckling Fiends, Brightstone Ritual, Lavabrink Floodgates, Mana Cache, Shard Volley, Scorched Ruins. I feel this all fleshes out to be a format revolving around the control of a Benben and a handful of tricks or an open opponent (similar to Dandan) and still has nice focus around the tricks and counter spell battles as well as how much do you risk on things like Mage's Contest or Tibalt's Trickery to try and give you the best outcome while keeping in mind the possible turn around of an opponent losing the counter battle but having enough resources to still win with the next spell that might be coming. Hopefully Wheeler or other Dandan aficionados see this and can give some feedback on if this would work as well as Dandan does.

Wheeler said PB&J the second I finished making a PB&J. Hello, soulmate.

Could we make a green version of this with Garruk's Companion? Vanilla 3/2s backed up by a similar amount of deck manipulation

I love the inclusion of dimishing returns, delve cards would be fun too, give me dig through time, treasure cruise, maybe logic knot?

I think mono-green is the best other mono-colored one to work with. It's got just enough library manipulation and selection to have the topdeck mindgames. The way I would do it is with a lot of explore effects and wood elementals as the only creature to work with, and no removal at all. Put in mass land reanimation and recursion in there as well. It wouldn't be truly mono-green because it would have one red card in the deck: Mudhole

dandan is the perfect creature for a john irnacius commander deck that doesnt care if they have friends after the game

Not enough Dandân in this format.

James not realizing Memory Lapse is 2 mana hurt to see

gotta get that premium fish content

I was falling asleep to this as something chill. then wheeler said "can I see this JUDGE" and I freaked out thinking it was one of my friends 😂😅

Would love to see the skull crack and lighting helix format too!

Wish this was longer

When can we expect a Wheeler tweeked list for Dandan

Fun fact: Dandan's ability regarding its inability to attack unless defending player controls an island and that you must sacrifice it if you control no islands used to be called Islandhome. This was a cycle of Landhome abilities, kind of like how there are Landwalk abilities. The Landhome keywords are no longer in the rules, thank goodness.

10/10 brando impression would go fishing on the day of your daughters wedding again

with the tiny splash of red i would really hope for maybe a 2 of mass hysteria.

I miss the term "bury". It's a little jargon-y, but its an impactful shortcut to "the creature cannot be regenerated".

my head hurts just from watching, dandân is awesome

next lrr card castle button: "Button Up for an Aggressive Danning"

i want those sleeves for my Forgetful Fish deck.

18:14 Ooh, what about "Sometimes you dandân, sometimes you dandân't!"

Alex is very good at doing the Robot, holy cow.

My fav fish!

1:19:00 "come one man, just a little Ponder!? I can handle it, come on, be a friend!" the thing over the second A is a "circumflex" and you elongate the letter. Should sound like "Dan-dawn"

Dandan is the Dandanest format there is

So on board for this

This was entertaining, engagement!

Here for the islandhome mechanic : D

This makes me want to brew a red (or RB) variant with only 1 creature in the entire deck, together with 30 Dragon's Approaches. Maybe needs to be RB to do more graveyard shenanigans.

This reminds me of Beejchase. The nonsense is intoxicating.

I'm gonna have a fieldday with format aint I.

Ignore my name and picture, but after watching your Dandan video I was inspired to begin building in that same space. I’ve made a green version supported by black featuring Topiary Stomper and some mill. If you guys are interested in the list let me know! I’d love to see you guys give it a try.

[to the part of Duel of the Fates that goes the hardest] Dandân! Dandân! Dandân! Dandân! Dandân! Dandân! Dandân! Dandân! Dandâââââââân, Dandâââââââân! Dandâââââââân, Dandâââââââân! Dandân! Dandân! Dandân! Dandân! Dandâââââââââââââââââân!

Maybe Chaos Lord for red, with some permanent sacrificing effects to try to keep it. Aboroth for green, with counter adding/removing effects? Xenic Poltergeist for black, with a bunch of weird useless artifacts?

1:10:50 it can never be better in every possible way, e.g., a 3/3 for 3 is better than a 3/3 for 2 b/c it doesn't die to to Path of Peril

I always thought Dandan was two boats named Dan

The Green Dandan would be nothing but forests, ramp, fight and bite spells, and 10 Colossal Dreadmaws