Well ironically, if you played the whole game and know the ending (SPOILER) he serves as a survey for the watchers. So, If the people are smart enough to figure things out , Keebo will of course be on the 'right side'.
kiibo But in the third trial he wasn’t correct Sure he didn’t say that Shinguuji is innocent but it was wrong to not vote against Shinguuji since he was actually the culprit So the said which said vote for shinguuji was actually correct
@@ghakfjkstjajdjd1811 That's not the point. Both sides aren't wrong. Choosing to vote now isn't wrong since they were right about who is the murderer, and voting later isn't also wrong since Shuichi still needs to solve a case. That's how detectives work, they solve it still, be it the same murderer or no.
@Dominic Docherty good question. Sadly we don't really know how the viewers experienced danganronpa V3... Maybe sth like big brother... Maybe the viewers have a good access to more information beside watching danganronpa... Idk if that makes sense, I can't explain that differently.
Tsumugi: "Gonta is so sweet! He wouldn't hurt a fly!" Chapter 2 Gonta: *Kidnapping over half the students, knocking out Shuichi, and forcing some of the students to hang out with some bugs, and then later throwing Kiibo into a glass tank*
They used it in promotional materials to avoid spoiling the first victim, as seen here: danganronpa.wikia.com/wiki/File:Debate_Scrum_(English_Trailer).png
3:20 What’s funny is that both sides are technically correct. Obvious they shouldn’t vote Kiyo yet because they haven’t found out Angie’s killer at this point, but even if they did vote Kiyo, they’d be right.
@@Yemnimnom that's not the problem at the time. If Someone else killed Angie before Kiyo killed as Tenko, then according to the rules Kiyo does not become the Blackened due to the fact someone was already the blackened and can't be tried for killing Tenko. If he hadn't killed Angie then whoever did wins the game because they voted for him
bro before i played v3, i thought ryoma had a kid voice. it reminds me of that time where me and my mom were in a car and was like "Hey look at that kid on a bike!" then we get past him and he got a full beard
@•Bunii• I think they were talking about chapter 5 because in chapter 3 he was not wrong, it would be a bad idea just to vote right then and there because of the motive (there can be 2 killers but only the person who killed first is blackened)
4:52 Tsumugi: "Gonta is such a sweetheart! He wouldn't hurt a fly!" *What about that moment when Gonta Ran and grabbed shuichi so fast, he knocked him out in the second chapter?*
But remember that Keebo said that Gonta apologized to Shuichi while he was still unconscious saying that Gonta couldn't slow down in time when he grabbed Shuichi. As for the throwing Keebo into a water tank, remember Gonta is always eager to help and tends to take things too literally. When people were suggesting using Keebo as the battering ram since he's a robot and cannot feel pain, Gonta went along with it as he's always eager to help people out.
@@unshoweredhotgirl yeah, I’d actually prefer if the game didn’t have such stupid/funny moments, especially during trials, I mean, someone just died. I’d actually really like to see Danganronpa: Distrust made, cuz it looks so much more serious and darker, also, the game could change depending on if people trusted you or not, so I think that would be such a cool idea to be in a game
I like how in the fifth debate, Momota's on the side saying Ouma died while Ouma's on the side saying Momota died. Even in death/purgatory, the two can't stop clawing at each other's throats.
@@jesusislordandlovesyou3853 I personally dont believe in that stuff, but we dont have proof it doesn't exist. If someone wants to believe something, let them.
Note: Kaede will always be on Shuichi's side, even in death (because she believes in him) Tsumugi only sides with Kaede in the 1st trial in order to pin the crime on Kaede (then goes against Shuichi the following trials) Keebo is always right; even when against Shuichi Kaito always opposes Kokichi and sides with more people, even in death Kokichi always opposes Kaito and sides with less people, even in death Korekiyo only sides with Shuichi in the 3rd trial in order to live longer (then goes against Shuichi in other trials, even in death) Angie always sides with Shuichi when alive, then opposes him when dead Miu always opposes Shuichi when alive, then sides with him when dead Tenko and Himiko are always in the same side next to each other (except upon Tenko's death) Ryoma never sides with Shuichi, even in death (also his portrait is short so you can't really see it) Rantaro's portrait is always on the side with more dead people Gonta only sides with Kaede in the 1st trial (then opposes Shuichi the following trials) Kirumi only opposes Shuichi in the 2nd trial because she is the blackened (and sides with him even in death) Whenever Maki and Kaito are on the same side, they are next to each other
@@pixie7260 both sides were correct since the left side would be right for voting and the left wad the safer option for needing to solve the whole mystery
Haha, I think Tsumugi just ran away on the side of Kaede to keep her crime from being caught. After she is safe, Tsumugi unconditionally appears on the enemy team to appeal to her lack of presence.
You know what hurts? •Kaede didn't see shuichi without his hat •Shuichi has never participated in the scrum debate for kaede to see •he has never heard or seen her play piano •Kaede's frame/portrait is always by shuichi's side tHE FEEEEEELS bring back kayayday
I love how Kirumi and Korekiyo open their eyes ONLY when speaking their statements and... firing their missiles 😑👁️👁️😑 Edit: also Shuichi "sleeping" through the entire first scrum debate even during the FULL COUNTER!!!
I just realized something. In Chapter 5, the argument is "Which one is dead?", with the choices being Kokichi and Kaito. However, on the side that says "Its Kokichi!", Kaito's portrait sits there, and on the "It's Kaito!" side, Kokichi's portrait sits there.
Whenever Monokuma jumped in while a conversation saying like "HOLD UP WE DOIN DEBATE SCRUM" I'd be so hyped. Debate Scrum is probably the most exciting part of Class Trials
IdleThoughts its hopeless (Tsumugi, Maki, keebo and Himiko) vs Its not hopeless (Shuichi.) tsumugi: danganronpa will always remain, you cant stop it! shuichi: Maybe we cant, but we can at least try! himiko: Theres no world to go back to anyways! shuichi: The world cant change our hope, even if we are fictional! maki:Why are you so persistent? Shuichi:i have to end danganronpa, no matter what! possessed kiibo: oh, knock it off already! shuichi:im afraid thats not possible! *crouch bind, set* Shuichi: THIS IS MY ANSWER! i tried, I'm sorry if its bad.
I found out: -Everyone’s voice sounds so much different in Japanese than in English -*Shuichi has a goddamn high voice* -Somehow, Gonta speaks fluently in Japanese rather than English.
This is my all time favorite mechanic in this series. It’s so stylish and suspenseful from beginning to end. I really hope if they make more Danganronpa games in the future, they keep this mechanic.
KirbyKips I personally agree 100%. They refined all of the elements perfectly. Hangman's Gambit is awesome now. Psyche Taxi is better than Logic Dive (though I prefer the LD music more). AA beat BTB and PTA (even if HYPER ULTRA PTA is my favorite track in the main series). And Scrum Debates are no doubt the best addition.
Caden Bass hangmans gambit mechanic was better than the last one but still it was tedious. They should use that mini game only when looking for very specific nouns. Psyche Taxi was shit. I preferred Logic Dive. AA was the one that was godly refined. I never thought I would finally enjoy that minigame, though BTB wasnt that bad
I wish there was the mechanic where you can ABSORB other student's statements and turn the truth bullets and turn them into absorbed FABRICATED truth bullets. That'd be awesome!
DynamicHex i think he meant they should have retained that mechanic of absorbing and mashed it with lying, meaning you'll be absorbing and lying at the same time
Debate Scrums seem to be really, REALLY easy. What if they instead of matching words that are the same, you have to pick words RELATING to their statements? That way you have to think alot more also rasing the difficulty and simulation of a real debate. I think this mode could be very improved.
Both of Shuichi's voices are really good and they suit him for different reasons. George Grant's sort of nasally deeper voice suits his awkwardness but he also does a great job at making him sound more confident as the story goes on, considering Shuichi grows stronger, little by little-but he still keeps a pessimistic touch. Megumi Hayashibara's voice suits him in how weak-willed and soft he is. They both have their pros and cons but they both suit him extremely well, imo.
I love the energy of those debates so much, favorite part of the class trials! But honestly the fact that Shuichi (the protagonist!) is also on the wrong side quite often, is so clever because even he can be deceived and we can't trust every of his assumptions (as players).
Korekiyo has the same voice as Obanai, Hikaru Hitachiin, and Zack Fair. Miu’s Japanese VA played the stage version of Chihiro Fujisaki in the Danganronpa play and was formerly a member of AKB48. And of course Kokoichi is obviously Zenitsu but also Dabi, Connie, and Rex from Xenoblade
Korekiyo has Sho Minazuki's both JP and ENG VA's so I'm simping for him the most. Still hard to believe that Kokichi shares the same JP VA as Akihisa Yoshii... 🤣
@@88phantasmagoria I absolutely adore Shuichi and he's very pretty, but I feel like they did him dirty with the side profile. Idk I just feel like it could've been done better, like they could've made him look even better than he normally does Edit: I mean the one without the hat. I think the side sprite with his hat looks good, but not the one without
That moment when Kiibo ain't on your side Edit: wait wtf I ligit left this comment thinking it gonna get barred not 240 likes 😳, okay okay , do what you want with my unfunny comment
One thing I found really cool about the debates is that Tsumugi is never on your side except on her lie in the first trial. She's never REALLY on your side.
they didnt say that he didnt kill them, but it was too early to vote because if kiyo only killed one of them, they coulda been in grave danger cuz other murderer
He admit he killed Tenko but not Angie.The third trial only.focus on Angie since she the one to die first while Tenko die during investigation.Even at that time they knew Korekiyo killed Tenko,they still wouldn't figure that he killed Angie.
Don't get me wrong, Saihara's VA is very skilled. I just think her voice is slightly too high pitched to be able to voice a boy. That's not her fault tho as it's hard to go outside your own voice boundaries without sounding fake as hell. Just as I think kokichi's voice in the english dub was slightly too low but the VA was still able to do a great job.
Why is nobody talking about hard the debate theme is?? *If I'm fighting for my life while that was playing in the background, I'm gonna die breakdancing-*
Something really cool about these debates is that you aren't always right. In the 3rd and last debate the opposite side had the right idea even if it was too soon
Dark Knight Idk to me SDR2 was more about alienating the concept of only Hope or Despair present in the future, replacing that with belief of a Future filled with many possibilities with both Hope _and_ Despair mixed in.
Aurelia Avalon There's also themes of the past and moving forward. The SDR2 cast have their own personal issues in the past that they have to get passed and move towards their own future
Lmao I noticed all the dead students’ photos. I’m death, they also pick sides. Kirumi: Tenko, I have to ask why you’re on the “Don’t vote Kiyo out” side Tenko: uh Rantaro: when he clearly murdered you Kaede: and Angie Tenko: LOOK I WANT TO VOTE THAT DEGENERATE MALE OUT BUT I AM NOT STANDING ON THE SAME SIDE AS HER Angie: ALL I WANTED WAS A CANDLE FOR YOU GUYS AND ATUA AND HE KILLED ME, OF COURSE I WANT HIM OUT AND HE WILL FEEL ATUA’S WRATH
me: has never heard the japanese dub until now "The voices are super good for this, why didn't I try find out sooner-" Shuichi: speaks me: "SO THAT'S WHY PEOPLE SAY HE'S A GIRL-" -Edit, holy crap there’s still people here. Uh, crappy formatting here but I appreciate people discussing stuff and shit. I love Shuichi he’s a great character 💖-
@@laurinha2266 i know it from the beginning, i'm just saying that his voice doesn't sound girly but androgyne and rock, and that it's why they did choose it. i like jokes about it because it can surprise people who only has hear the english version, but i don't like when people say things like ''his voice sound too much like a girl'' or ''she's not good as megumi for boys voice''
That last debate's "this is our answer" was just depressing. First debate scrum: 8 people on protag's side (including Kaede) Last debate scrum: 2 people on protag's side (including Shuichi) *time sure flies huh.* Also I just realized that Kaito is the only one who says "Shuichi" instead of "Saihara". *Maybe they really are soul bros.*
This is literally one of the best parts of the class trial even if it usually tends to last just about a minute and a half if you memorize the statements well. I love how they get harder and harder by having some keywords show up multiple times in opposing statements and by having shortened versions of "truth missiles" instead of the whole keyword or phrase. This really should come back in another Danganronpa along with a remix of the scrum theme.
To the people complaining why Shuichi is being voiced by a female character for JP: 1) This isn't the first time it has happened. Naegi was voiced by Megumi Oogata, Hinata by Minami Takayama and now Shuichi by Megumi Hayashibara. All LEGENDARY seiyuus, Hayashibara's known as the seiyuu goddess in Japan, for one. 2) A different interpretation does not mean it is a worse performance. Hayashibara's Saihara exudes more of the "moe" factor he has come to be so popular about in Japan, especially since he is an anxious, insecure and more effeminate in contrast to the loud, confident, masculine Kaito. 3) If anything, Hayashibara put in more nuance and units in Saihara's voice in order to emphasize his anxiety-ridden character, hence why people would say her performance is "weaker" compared to JP when it's totally not. Grant George's interpretation focus more on him Saihara's growing confidence and personality while still maintaining that pessimistic nature, where people call his performance "flat" and "emotionless." 4) People fluent in both languages of English AND Japanese are the ones who can truly measure how each performance sounds. I'm not saying you can't like one over the other, but you can't really comment on an actor's performance from a language you are not familiar with. These are my 2 cents on the matter.
Oh the JP voice actors' skill of saihara's character is great. I just think the voice is slightly too girly sounding (even though the hajime's and naegi's were females as well, they sounded very boyish). As well as kokichi's in the eng dub is great but his voice is slightly too mature for his character. You can be a great voice actor but you can't manipulate your voice to go outside of its pitch boundaries without sounding fake as hell.
“People fluent in both languages of English and Japanese are the ones who can measure how each performance sounds.” Anyone can have a subjective opinion on whether or not they enjoy the VA or not, regardless if they are fluent or not.
Tbh how can anyone say that Saihara’s English voice is better anyway? He sounds overly masculine, but also lacking in emotional depth, which, divisive as he can be, is absolutely not Shuichi. The Japanese may be effeminate, but she exudes such a deep emotional character, which builds into something really powerful at the end of the game. I just don’t seen how the English guy can be considered superior to that.
I’d honestly like to see someone incorporate this mechanic into the other game trials. Like who would be on which side, what would they argue, or what would their side pictures look like? I would love to see fan art of that.
In the second game 1st trial: Is nagito the killer? (yes, he is) (no, he isn't) 2nd trial: Was hiyoko framed? (no she wasn't) (yes she was) 3rd trial: (edit suggested by Dagu) Who was killed first? (Ibuki) (Hiyoko) 4th trial: From which side is the killer? (grape house) (strawberry house) 5th trial: What will we do with the bagels? (eat it) (put it on komaeda's grave)
