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Danganronpa V3's Ending: Final Thoughts and Analysis! 

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@WeebyNewz
@WeebyNewz 6 лет назад
Hope you guys enjoy the video! I feel a bit rusty at this, it’s been a while since I made an analysis video. Like I implied in the video a lot of things are just flat out stated by Kodaka in interviews and through tweets so there wasn’t as much for me to analyze on my own but regardless I hope it’s still interesting to watch. As for those of you interested in more LP videos I do plan on continuing that type of stuff on the channel as well! I just need some time to figure out my schedule and finish the V3 post content which shouldn’t take too much longer.
@kutami2951
@kutami2951 6 лет назад
Weeby Newz I think Tsumugi was just given self-counscious about being in fiction and that's why she was fucking with everybody at the end and doing stuff as the mastermind. About why doesn't she burst on cospox while cosplaying Kaede in chapter 1 altho Kaede being a fictional character, I think it has to do with the fact of *how* she cosplayed as her. She just put her clothes on and, as seen in Chapter 6, she cosplays characters *in 100% detail, mimicking their hairstiles, weight and height, voice and other facial features* That leads me to believe that *she considers cosplay to be absolutely perfect in execution, or either a complete failure* I just think she just wanted to give the feeling of despair and fuck with their emotions and decisions by using her talent to lead them to believe a whole set of lies that she thoroughly instigated, both by impersonating them in her Ultimate Talent Lab and breaking them by making them self-conscious about their existence. I think that's a huge job to do well, so I kinda hold respect to Tsumugi for making Shuichi, Maki, Himiko (and Keebo?) all act as she planned and breaking them all down in the process. Too bad Shuichi broke of it huh?
@LeonGun8
@LeonGun8 6 лет назад
Actually,it'snot 100% meta, like at all. It's self-concious and breaks the in-universe 4th wall. Being meta would mean the characters know they are part of the game we are playing.They don't. They learn they are part of a TV show where teenagers are forced to kill each other. The player is not the audience, and this is most obvious by the fact Keebo is the Audience's surrogate, while the Player's surrogate is Shuichi . And the Theme, to the very end, is "Truth and Lies", to the point the epilogue itself questions the validity of Tsumugi's claims, especifically her claim that they auditioned to be part of it.
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 6 лет назад
Weeby Newz ooh wonder what LP's you'll do
@rinwesley3092
@rinwesley3092 6 лет назад
Thanks for this vid! I would love sharing some of my theories as well.
@Milksword
@Milksword 6 лет назад
I'm so glad you made this vid! It's great to have all the theories about the ending in one place, to clear up a lot of people's issues and frustrations with what I think is a great ending to a great game. Thank you!
@ejenix
@ejenix 6 лет назад
One thing that really convinced me that Tsumugi lied about their personalities being fabricated was that at the beginning of the prologue, Miu and Tenko still talk in the same way as they would in the game, with Miu using vulgar language and Tenko overreacting to the Exisals. It at least means that a big part of their personalities remained in tact, so it's not like their "real selves" and "fictional selves" would have been completely different people.
@liebebe8289
@liebebe8289 4 года назад
ejenix Their memories and talents were based on their real personalities.
@adbarshay
@adbarshay 4 года назад
Yass what about Kaede? Correct me if i’m wrong, but isn’t there a scene in the last trial where kaede says she wants to be a part of the killing game because she has no faith in humanity? That is completely different from her character in game!
@youtubewanderer3347
@youtubewanderer3347 4 года назад
@@thespectator5259 Personaly, knowing about the flshback lights, I think they have enought technology to have manipulated the characters onto doing fake auditions after kidnapping them, this makes the most sense to me
@ponderer1315
@ponderer1315 4 года назад
Adding onto this, Rantaro is still acting as mysterious as ever, Shuichi keeps on his hat and Korekiyo is wearing his mask pre-Ultimate Clothes. Supplemental material strongly implies Gonta's "fabricated backstory" is his true backstory, as his "regular clothing" is noted to give off the impression of a respectable family in the visual dictionary much like how Gonta claims is his backstory in his FTE. *EDIT:* Even more, the Monokubs outright say in the Pre-Flashback Light part of the Prologue that the Flashback Lights are going to help them remember their true selves/hidden talents that they've forgotten (which doesn't make sense if those are fake personalities.)
@adbarshay
@adbarshay 4 года назад
Generic Tyrant i know it’s been 2 months but I forgot to respond so here it goes. I completely agree with you and I don’t believe that Tsumugi was being truthful. The comment I responded to was saying that tsumugi was telling the truth, and the author of that comment was saying that their fake personalities were based off of their real ones. This means that the author of that comment believes everything tsumugi said, including the audition tapes. I used the audition tapes not because I think they are reliable, but because if they were, as the comment I was responding to was implying, than the comment would be false, as the audition tapes disprove the very thing the commenter said. This response probably doesn’t make sense because I’m writing it at 5AM. Sorry about that.
@scottpilgrimdude24
@scottpilgrimdude24 6 лет назад
Oh my god, could you imagine if Tsumugi really wasn't the mastermind, but the memory was implanted into her mind? Think about the millions of more questions that would rise. Who really is the mastermind? And how did they come up with everything they did? Damn, I would REALLY like that to be canon
@jorgecaimanque6951
@jorgecaimanque6951 6 лет назад
TheGoldenRaptor MAN I ALREADY QUESTION EVERYTHING AFTER THE ENDING AND YOU'RE MAKING ME QUESTION EVEN MORE!?
@scottpilgrimdude24
@scottpilgrimdude24 6 лет назад
I KNOW RIGHT I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH
@catscanhavelittleasalami
@catscanhavelittleasalami 6 лет назад
Even now I don't know what to think of the ending, obviously there is more to it. There's just waaay too many things that don't add up. (like wtf is up with Tsumugi and kiibo in the prologue? I'm still really confused about that)
@scottpilgrimdude24
@scottpilgrimdude24 6 лет назад
I'm still really confused about Kaede and Shuichi remembering the fact that they were kidnapped in the prologue, before the cubs even used the flashback light. Like okay, I'll believe that the killing game is a show that people watch (maybe for entertainment, or maybe not?) and that it's been going on for a while, but the idea that they volunteered for it? After seeing the prologue? No way.
@recezz9830
@recezz9830 6 лет назад
WHAT IF SHE'S A REAL ULTIMATE?
@dagu1801
@dagu1801 6 лет назад
It's kinda funny how many endings you can gain from V3, depending on what you consider a lie.
@sploofmcsterra4786
@sploofmcsterra4786 5 лет назад
I do feel though that a lot of the lies can be determined to be indeed lies. There's a lot of stuff that simply can't make sense unless it's a lie. It's sort of like without Shuichi's guidance we have to do what he was doing the whole game for the last few mysteries, because we have some clues that he can't have due to being unable to see the prologue (and some he missed). For example, It simply cannot make sense that Tsumugi can't dress as Kaede when she is a fictional character, unless Tsumugi is lying about the nature of her cospox.
@nancyfurman7682
@nancyfurman7682 5 лет назад
Kiibo lived
@DiddyBohlen
@DiddyBohlen 5 лет назад
@@sploofmcsterra4786 Well even though their talents and personalities are fictional, the body/appearance of the characters in V3 are still based on real people. Danganronpa 1 and 2 were just video games even in the fictional Danganronpa world. This particular argument is one of the weakest regarding possible lies.
@IchCharacter
@IchCharacter 5 лет назад
@Father Gasciogne So? All fiction is based on reality. And you can't tell me there were no look-alikes for characters of the previous games in the real world, at least for characters like Makoto. The outfit can't be the trigger either, considering the cast of V3 didn't wear their ultimate uniforms irl, those were parts of their fictional selves, meaning Tsumugi would have been able to cosplay as them without trouble. The cospox has to be a lie.
@arcticfox4013
@arcticfox4013 5 лет назад
@@IchCharacter alternatively, danganronpa 1 and 2 are actually real , while the ones from v3 are fabricated, hence considered fictional, meaning she lied about how cospox works.
@ultimatedespairgamer6722
@ultimatedespairgamer6722 6 лет назад
I do love the idea that tsumugi was just given memories of being the mastermind
@jeffreyastudillo8851
@jeffreyastudillo8851 6 лет назад
It's possible, but most would like to believe that she is in fact the mastermind, the main theme may be truth vs lies, but anything could be composed of truths and lies as long as their story is cryptic
@Shuru10
@Shuru10 6 лет назад
WHOA the chance that Tsumugi could've been cosplaying them and her memories being altered as well TOTALLY changed the ending for me omg Weeby you're incredible
@johnsonseesit1652
@johnsonseesit1652 6 лет назад
The entire sixth class trial I was saying "I just wanted school mode, my dude" lol
@serenesiren3134
@serenesiren3134 6 лет назад
If we’re going on the theory that Tsumugi was lying, then this ending is kind of brilliant. Because of this, if fans were upset, all the studio would have to do is make another game or anime series that supports the theory that she’s lying and that the killing games did happen. And if she wasn’t lying, then this conclusion could be taken at face value and this is the end of Danganronpa as a whole.
@SasukeUchiha723
@SasukeUchiha723 5 лет назад
i really dont want monokuma to be broke...... I mean the guy has kids jeez.. So its ok for being fiction vr game like sao and everyone lives like the second game.... and make the Udg 2
@heathazedays193
@heathazedays193 3 года назад
So many people think that it’s a bad ending but they just haven’t analyzed it enough. I still think that this ending has some flaws but after looking at other peoples theory on the ending and analyzing it myself it feels like this ending was made so it can be interpreted in different ways to the viewers. This is just my opinion tho🤠 now that I think about I probably sound dumb
@soobdoob
@soobdoob 3 года назад
@@heathazedays193 nah I also agree with u. this ending can be interpreted in so many ways and after seeing some theories ig i will just stick to the theory of tsumugi was lying and everything wasn't fictional. I don't blame others for having different theories but this one just seems the most logical to me
@vee-yl3rc
@vee-yl3rc 3 года назад
Something else I don't understand is the way that NOBODY in the v3 cast recognized rantaro from the previous season... if they were so obessed with it why didn't they remember him like bro????
@thefolklorecunt7679
@thefolklorecunt7679 3 года назад
@@vee-yl3rc EDIT: I believe Danganronpa (the show) doesn’t exist and i do believe that the people we see in the prologue arent what Tsumugi said they were. Mainly Kaito, considering how bloodthirsty he was to win by killing... yet he acted confused and relatively peaceful towards the others. Wouldn’t it be fucked up if Talentless Students were being kidnapped by a team of junko fans in order to replicate her killing games, then broadcast it to the world. It may have people on edge against Hopes Peak since they technically are involved with Killing Games in a loose way
@JMTgpro
@JMTgpro 6 лет назад
Tsumugi does lie, simply because of something obvious, apart from everything said here. If there is no Hope's Peak Academy and no ultimates, then how is Tsumugi the Ultimate Cosplayer? If you are not in a world where you can manufacture talents like Hinata's. How can Tsumugi exist?
@PWLfr
@PWLfr 6 лет назад
Cuz it's a game ! Tsumugi is a fictional character just like the others
@maverickdarkrath4780
@maverickdarkrath4780 6 лет назад
@@PWLfr see this is what this ending caused and why I despise it now all plot holes can be fixed by just saying its fiction and all the mysteries left ambiguous to us mean nothing because anyone can just say it fabricated by team Danganronpa , all these characters we've come know don't even exist in there own universe according to this, fans will happily let there favorite series die right in front of them because fiction bla bla bla we get it kodaka got metah now we ignore plot holes
@thembofriendsimp
@thembofriendsimp 4 года назад
I take that as one of many pieces of evidence that they are in VR, achieving Tsumugi's talent would be simple if they were in a virtual world, honestly even by the standards of DR1 and 2's ultimate talents Tsumugi's abilities as depicted in trial 6 would still be impossible to achieve outside of VR
@liebebe8289
@liebebe8289 4 года назад
Maverick darkrath The plot holes are a part of the mystery. Was Tsumugi lying or not?
@bandicootsmwcentral2950
@bandicootsmwcentral2950 4 года назад
isnt it explained in the prologue that the "ultimates" in this game are chosen by the government?
@artemischisholm1929
@artemischisholm1929 6 лет назад
What bugs me most is how so many of the fandom is eager to believe Tsumugi during the last trial. Like I mean I'd just like to see more people being skeptical of what they're being told.
@hiccupasterisk
@hiccupasterisk 6 лет назад
Artemis Chisholm agreed. so many people trust junko and Tsumugi and I'm like guys they're the villains. they have lied to us even when they say the don't lie. why do you trust them
@hiyochi255
@hiyochi255 6 лет назад
I thought it was pretty obvious that some, if not all, of what Tsumugi said were lies. I don't get why people would believe it either. After all, in this game, you can't really trust everything that's thrown at you, you'd have to be sharp to detect which are the lies and which are not. Thinking about it, I guess that's the reason for Kokichi as a character in V3, right? He had been lying throughout the entire game, which actually helped us learn to keep an eye out for lies. Also, I don't understand how some just write off Kokichi as an evil, cruel antagonist even after finishing the game. True, what he did to Gonta was really bad, but I understand why he needed to do that after finishing Chapter 5 and 6. Still I wish things could have gone better.
@hiccupasterisk
@hiccupasterisk 6 лет назад
I've seen it plenty of times in the fandom and it makes me mad; a lot of people get mad that the anime 'retconned' Junko's lines about her making the remnants of despair join her side with her charisma; they TRULY believed that, knowing Junko lied through her teeth through the first and second games, all because Monokuma once said "that he never lies". Seriously? Just because the villains say the truth SOMETIMES, and even then only HALF of the truth, the truth that benefits their plans the most, it doesn't mean you should trust all they say.
@hiyochi255
@hiyochi255 6 лет назад
Monodoof You're right about that. That's actually one example. There have been instances when the mastermind lied: * In DR1 Chapter 5, Monokuma told everyone that Naegi was responsible for the murder of Mukuro Ikusaba, but we all know this is a lie. * During the events of DR2 in Chapter 6, Alter Junko claimed that Izuru Kamukura was the killer of the whole student council in the past. But it was later confirmed that Izuru was merely a spectator and that the student council members killed each other. *In DRV3 Chapter 1, we voted Kaede as the killer responsible for the murder of Rantaro, but later we learn that she was falsely executed, and that her shot put ball didn't actually hit anyone. In DRV3, where the whole theme is centered around Lies, I find it impossible that Tsumugi never lied about anything during the last chapter.
@hiccupasterisk
@hiccupasterisk 6 лет назад
Another one that a lot of people miss is the fact that Junko went against the rules of the killing game before chapter 5 in DR1: The whole chapter 4 case was a lie to begin with. The rules said that a class trial will be held whenever a student murders ANOTHER student, but as we find out later, the victim of that case didn't kill another student; Sakura offed herself. To add to that, Monokuma falsified evidence to complicate the case further. There was no need to hold a Class Trial for a suicide but Monokuma did so anyway just to further her agenda of spreading despair to the outside world and the students of Hope's Peak. There's a bunch of times where he says half truths as well, like when in DR2 he promised to return their memories after the killing started, but then saying he didn't mention WHEN he was going to return them, or the one in Chapter 4 where he says there's ship parts in the Funhouse, but then we learn they're TOY ship parts. And the mastermind in V3 and by extension Monokuma lied a bunch of times (hell, everybody in that game lied, fitting to the theme), so yeah, kids, dont trust villains. that's a valuable life lesson.
@Monobrobe
@Monobrobe 6 лет назад
My only issue with the ending is that Keebo died. I just wish there was another way to get out while keeping Keebo alive. Speaking of which... Keebo character analysis?
@fantasmacstrp9239
@fantasmacstrp9239 6 лет назад
Washing machine IA.
@squidgelatinous9724
@squidgelatinous9724 6 лет назад
Keebo’s a little too simplistic of a character to warrant an analysis in my opinion.
@Monobrobe
@Monobrobe 6 лет назад
Squid Gelatinous Au contraire, my friend. The existence of his inner voice brings almost all of his actions into question. And consider this: what if he’s been just been hiding his real feelings? Hope moves forward, after all, so he has no time to wallow in self pity. I firmly believe Keebo would not have let himself be pushed around if he didn’t have his inner voice. He’s only simplistic because of his inner voice. Without it, there’s a lot of potential.
@LordBlizzard58
@LordBlizzard58 6 лет назад
Monobrobe He did show a lot of promise while blowing up 80% of the academy when he was in control
@deralmighty8011
@deralmighty8011 4 года назад
@Griff - Stop being such a robojustice warrior...
@LionsAbyss
@LionsAbyss 6 лет назад
Perhaps the cast of V3 weren't fans of Danganronpa? Maybe they knew a few things about it, but weren't crazy about it. Perhaps in the real world, those who go against mob mentality (in this case, being obsessed with Danganronpa) are selected for the real fiction killing games. That may explain why Kaede didn't know who Rantaro was, but seemingly recognized the Monokubs; and perhaps this is why Rantaro told everyone his name to see if they knew him from season 52. I don't have the Japanese script on hand so I can't really cross reference the JP prologue from the English one, so maybe all of this has no supporting evidence in the JP script; but it's still something to consider.
@Webshooters1
@Webshooters1 6 лет назад
LionsAbyss Except that's not true because in Suichi's video the guy wanted to be an Ultimate Detective because so far one hadn't been a blackened yet and was not only planning out what his execution would've been but planning out how he was gonna commit a murder for everyone. Same for Kaito who wanted to kill everyone and get rich and famous.
@LionsAbyss
@LionsAbyss 6 лет назад
But how do we even know that was real?
@EpicMinecraftFail
@EpicMinecraftFail 6 лет назад
LionsAbyss found your other comment on the when did pokemon stop being good video,didnt expect you to be a danganronpa fan, good to know.
@nixaurum9478
@nixaurum9478 6 лет назад
The videos are theorized to be fake by many people. For one, the prologue and the videos don't match up- in the prologue, Kaede and Shuichi give comments about being kidnapped. This doesn't line up with the whole concept of auditioning for the 53rd season. Secondly, the floor in the videos matches up with a set in Tsumugi's talent research lab. People theorize that Tsumugi may have cosplayed the characters and faked the cospox. As Kaede was told to look away when Tsumugi was getting in Kaede's clothes, she could have put on some form of make-up (unlikely because her skin is described as getting a different texture) or triggered an allergic reaction.
@PogaltaEditz
@PogaltaEditz 6 лет назад
Ultra Instinct Goku Black Evidence points towards those videos being fake.
@lillian5551
@lillian5551 4 года назад
I love Danganronpa, but I remember how crushed I felt when Tsumugi said it was all fiction, like seriously. That was way more crushing than Kaede's death was for me, and Kaede's death hit hard.
@britneypetit8222
@britneypetit8222 3 года назад
Same!
@samusaran9949
@samusaran9949 3 года назад
I relate just a little too much
@coryjamieson3171
@coryjamieson3171 2 года назад
Yeah, Kaede's death was sad, even sadder when it is revealed that she's innocent and Tsumugi was the killer.
@Bungiejumper117
@Bungiejumper117 2 года назад
I felt the same. It’s weird how it being fiction to our world is fine, but bring fiction WITHIN a fictional world makes it too far removed.
@makmakg242
@makmakg242 2 года назад
Though at the same time, this "it was all fiction" twist felt rushed and out of bounds. The build up of the twist wasn't done properly, felt like a cheap throwaway twist than SDR2.
@keerthiannadorai4412
@keerthiannadorai4412 6 лет назад
I dunno why, but for me, V3's ending didn't feel as grandiose as the ending of 2. While I believe that V3 is a better game to its predecessors, but I feel that I like the ending of 2 more than V3.
@Rage_WinterchiIl
@Rage_WinterchiIl 6 лет назад
This. I love how at the end after talking to chiaki, Hajime was not having _any_ of junko's shit
@albumkosong
@albumkosong 4 года назад
Agree ending of 2 is better from V3
@enevy3165
@enevy3165 4 года назад
In terms of satisfying endings.. DR2 definitely takes the top But I personally LOVE theorizing and analyzing the shit outta games and characters so in that sense, v3 is my favorite game. I'll forever wonder what the true ending of the game was(it all depends on what you believe is a truth and what you believe was a lie)
@ygobe2
@ygobe2 3 года назад
@@enevy3165 I think it's cause I was kind of bored of watching bare longplays, but I could not get through V3
@imbaconplate8872
@imbaconplate8872 3 года назад
Exactly what i thought
@FarWanderer81
@FarWanderer81 6 лет назад
Two more possible loopholes with cospox: 1 all the characters Tsumugi cosplayed in trial six had "V" and "3" in their eyes, which may be enough to count as a fictional variation. 2 Same goes with the bleeped names in the video recordings. Basically she can essentially cosplay Shuichi's fictional twin brother. Remember in her cospox demo to Kaede she introduced herself *as* Kaede. Also one other juicy point about Tsumugi being a copycat is lost in translation: in the prologue, Rantaro asks "What's with the ridiculous theatrics?" The Japanese word translated as "theatrics" in that line ("manegoto") alternatively means "mimicry" depending on context.
@tommapar
@tommapar 6 лет назад
Yeah and maybe that's why she introduced hersel as Junko Enoshima 53rd maybe? To avoid being the actual Junko who was a real person?
@Petrichorus-
@Petrichorus- 5 лет назад
The V3 eyes could've been intentional to throw the characters off though. There's nothing stopping her from putting on contact lenses that represent her show during her final performance. But I imagine if she truly wanted the remaining students to feel despair/hope that she'd make the videos look as real as possible.
@thatguyorange902
@thatguyorange902 5 лет назад
I know I'm very late, but when she first showed Kaede her coxpox, she could have simply put the makeup on as Kaede was looking away, I doubt it would be hard seeing as she is the Ultimate Cosplayer
@SasukeUchiha723
@SasukeUchiha723 5 лет назад
woah...... hold up, Tsumugi is the one who pointed out Kaede's twin sis possibility........... DAMn
@TheMasonfrom3R
@TheMasonfrom3R 3 года назад
@@thatguyorange902 Or she gave herself a allergic reaction
@V4lkyrie13
@V4lkyrie13 6 лет назад
I might be wrong on this, but I had a different idea of the whole 'everything is fiction' thing. I thought V3 took place in the real world, where Danganronpa 1, 2, UDG and 3 ARE fiction. They're videogames and anime. I thought that in V3's world, the games got so popular that they ended up becoming a TV show following the same lore of the games. I think that's what Tsumugi means when she says the whole Danganronpa world is fiction, because it genuinely is. I also think that's why she broke out into cospox when dressing as Kaede, because she's still technically a real person, whereas the characters she cosplays as in the final trial were all from videogames. I might be wrong, but I think this makes more sense than just saying the whole series is fake, since it clears up a few of Tsumugi's contradictions. It also feels way more satisfying too :p Oh oh oh, and I'm really glad we're getting analysis videos again. Ouma will be a lot of fun, but I really can't wait for Rantaro's analysis. I think he might actually be my favorite character in V3. Thanks for all the awesome content c:
@Lilac_Lilith
@Lilac_Lilith 6 лет назад
Some Nerd I think what you said was right, that's how I interpreted that line too
@Oroxom3
@Oroxom3 6 лет назад
Well.. that was exactly what happened :)
@hiyochi255
@hiyochi255 6 лет назад
I thought about that too, but then again there was another contradiction. Tsumugi claimed that she can only cosplay fictional characters which was why she broke into cospox when she tried to imitate Kaede. But later on, at the final chapter, she kept pushing on the idea that all of them are fictional, all participants of Danganronpa are only fiction. So that means, if all 16 of them are considered fiction...doesn't that mean she was supposed to be able to cosplay as the characters of the 53rd season too? Ugh so many lies, I can't wait for another sequel that at least clarifies the ending, all the mysteries behind it, the participants' true selves or their lives before being placed in the killing game...SDR2 got that treatment right? Please let it be the same in V3.
@revolvingworld2676
@revolvingworld2676 6 лет назад
Chiakz She treated them like fiction but they were actually real people and the killing game is actually happening in the V3 world. Thats how I interpret it. Remember what we saw in Shuichis lab. 50 crime files, the begining ones are "illistrastions and fiction" while the recent ones have actual pictures.
@SasukeUchiha723
@SasukeUchiha723 5 лет назад
i got the same theory too........ But i have new evidence to say otherwise.. BUT KYOKO KIRIGIRI and CHIAKI NANAMI are REAL Goddammit
@dobadobadooo
@dobadobadooo 6 лет назад
While I didn't dislike the ending, I can't say I liked it either. My main problem with it is that it seems more concerned with being meta than actually being coherent.
@fantasmacstrp9239
@fantasmacstrp9239 6 лет назад
This. Chapter 6 had too much investigation and almost any of the truth bullets were used. Just because HICKSHON.
@Oroxom3
@Oroxom3 6 лет назад
The thing is that it was meta with the game's audience.
@sgtdrfunk
@sgtdrfunk 6 лет назад
I totally agree with this. I think everything after the big reveal ended up being kind of schlocky. Like, the whole "it's a TV show!" bit had been thoroughly hinted at, and is an interesting enough twist, but then they started digging into DR1 and DR2, and it was just utterly...unnecessary.
@red.4712
@red.4712 6 лет назад
I see it as amazing. To me it is coherent, and it was a great way to end a series.
@cjcathead2468
@cjcathead2468 5 лет назад
@@sgtdrfunk It would have been fine if it was just a TV show, but I feel like they should've left the first games alone. Even though I think this is just a lie, it is just confusing and can make the first game's feel pointless.
@sommiemusso9138
@sommiemusso9138 6 лет назад
When playing the game, I also felt like I was the audience that was being shown. However, i didn't feel upset attacked by it. I think I related with the audience more since the audience was supposed to be this big group of Danganronpa fans who enjoyed the killing games that the students were put through. That hit home because I am a huge fan of Danganronpa and was super excited at the release of V3 that there was a point where i wanted more of Danganronpa (like another game) but that would mean i would have to watch character that i claimed to love so much kill each other. But i didnt feel victimized or anything because of thr end where they had to convince the audience to stop watching the killing games it felt like they were convincing me too. It was if the characters were saying that it's time to let Danganronpa go and take what we learned out of fiction into reality. However, I do understand why some people would feel as though being connected to the audience in the game was an insult since unlike the audience who only cared about the killing aspect, we cared about them as actual people in a sense because we were able to hear their thoughts and and grow relationships with them. Like, we were able to see Kirumi's face as she lost all hope when she fell, we saw felt Gonta' s pain when he heard he was going to be punished for a crime he didnt remember dping, we saw Kokichi who was a little shit throughout the game sacrifice himself to save everyone. We literally saw Maki and Himiko shatter over someone they didn't realize that cared about until it was too late. We were able and those are things that an audience watching this all through a tv couldn't see or feel the way we did.
@nayu313
@nayu313 6 лет назад
Yeah, I really agree with you. I think in my case, the ending left me feeling a bit uneasy about this. I started to question whether it's actually "correct", liking games about teenagers killing each other, but as you're saying - it's not the killing we enjoy, it's the characters and the intense emotion. It still threw me into a turmoil, but...that's kind of what this game was all about tbh. I was in a complete emotional conflict all the time and this was probably the DR title with the most despair-inducing moments for me, especially in the sixth trial and in the first one too.
@sommiemusso9138
@sommiemusso9138 6 лет назад
I think a lot of people were thrown off since this game does take a different approach to than the others. Like how in the first one you have Naegi and you're rooting for his hope to win the whole time even when the others almost fall into despair. Then you have Hajime in the second game and you're rooting for him but he almost falls into despair. Then you have this game where you're rooting for Kaede and then you're rooting for Saihara and then you're rooting for K1B0 so you don't know who exactly to root for. Everything about the first 2 games is straightforward since it's all about fighting despair and wanting hope to win and the protagonists do that by using facts and trust. I just really like the whole idea of how some lies can lead to hope and some truths can lead to despair because they honestly would have all been dead if Saihara hadn't lied. Like, I really felt upset when characters died. During the game I only was able to do the free time events for Kirumi and Iruma because #BestGirls but I feel like we were able to understand and spend more time with the characters even if they were killed in the first chapter (except Rantaro but we got backstory eventually). That's something I didn't really see in 1 and 2. Like I didn't really care about characters like Leon or Teruteru and "Byakuya" or even Mahiru since we didn't really get to know about them besides their free time events and whatever backstory they let slip. They overall weren't memorable characters in my opinion. lmao that was a long rant XD
@nayu313
@nayu313 6 лет назад
I'm glad that you posted this though! I know what you mean - I tend to actually dislike both Leon and Teruteru. I think the plot gradually thickens - the very first game was quite simple in its concept and the way it ended was also quite straightforward. The second game was a bit more mindblowing, in the sense that our main characters turned out to be both virtual AND remnants of despair. And now we're here (just talking about the main three games btw). I think this is very much connected with what the games have been trying to achieve so far, and that is to stun its audience, to horrify it and make it "feel stuff". The first game had it simple, since the idea of teenagers killing each other in itself is freaking terrifying. To me personally, the whole "the world has plunged into despair" was more or less the cherry on the cake, but the main event were the killings themselves. I couldn't believe it. Obviously, we already expected this with the second game. So for this one, the DR team decided to clash the concepts of hope, despair and reality. They made us doubt and until the very end, nothing was really clear. The whole last chapter was just shocking. The third installment then...I guess the first trial was a great indication of what's to come. They took our expectation from the first two games, threw them out of window and started messing with us. From the very beginning. Everything about this game was a despair-inducing mess, in a good sense. It felt much more feelings-oriented and indeed, one had to question whether the truth is the right way sometimes, as contrary to the first two games, where it was all about being "right" and rational (for the most part). All the other trials too, they were just handled so differently. The Tenko (my best girl T_T) and Angie trial, the Kirumi trial, the Gonta trial (that one was just..pure despair for such a different reason...showing us that not always the good guy will win, even if he does his best), then that Oma and Kaito mess and Shirogane (best girl no.2 T_T) being the mastermind, with the first trial actually being completely unjustified in the end...it all just went to show so many things. I think this was a great aspect though, because as much as the first two games established two very important concepts (there's hope and you can change the future), this one kind of showed us the mess that is "reality" (as real as the DR world can get really, but I think it applies quite well). Okay okay, this rant is even longer. XD
@sommiemusso9138
@sommiemusso9138 6 лет назад
Exactly! And it even makes it weirder that all three games kind of correlated with each other in a sense. Like with the different murders and who the "killer" was such as the 1st trial being a failed killing attempt that ended with the innocent person being killed (Sayaka failed to kill Leon, Teruteru failed to kill Nagito, Kaede failed to kill Rantaro) the second trial being that they died by being hit in the head, the third trial being a double murder, and the fourth trial being suicide (Sakura, Nagito, and Gonta since he wanted everyone to die instead of face the outside world, still a good boy though), and the 5th trial being a person you thought was dead is actually alive. So of course I'm expecting Junko to pop out and Tsumugi, K1B0, Himiko, Sihara, and Maki to be the final five because that's how it ALWAYS ENDS! But then Tsumugi is the mastermind and K1B0 sacrifices himself and saves everyone. But even though the murders correlate to an extent, the way V3 went about it was genius. The murders involve suffering (Iruma being choked to death) and even the executions seem more realistic/gruesome in a sense (Kirumi literally fell to her death). I also noticed that when looking at the amount of time it took to play each game, V3 was definitely the longest. Just the game alone took me 41 hours to complete but I'm doing School Mode of the THH and I only have 37 hours in that game. It was totally worth it though. I think that V3 also had more memorable chapters. Maybe because we were spending more time in them and that there was always something new to do. The virtual world was a pretty cool addition. But in THH if felt like the school never really changed and that we just unlocked more floors and then there was GD where there was more to explore but we never went back to an island except for plot purposes.
@nayu313
@nayu313 6 лет назад
Yup! The trials in the last game were some depressing stuff. Kaede's was probably the most painful to watch for me and it ended up being the second hardest-hitting execution imo, right after Chiaki's death in the Zetsubou-hen. Kirumi's death was a very close second though. Ouchies. Also yeah, the last one was def the longest (I spent 52 hours with it! How I did that, no idea :D) and I liked the environments the best. The individual talent rooms were great and made the mysteries that much more appealing. Also there were some legendary references! (The first two games had them too, but this one was pretty damn great for me.)
@genericyoutubecommentchann7418
One aspect that I REALLY didn't like about the finale was how easily the world gave up on Danganronpa. One minute they're begging it not to end, and then the next every single person wants the show to end since not a single person told Keebo to vote. It doesn't really instill a lot a confidence in me that they learned something. It seems more like they got bored of Hope and Despair like Monaca did in the anime. That was honestly how I felt too. When I saw the chapter 6 title, I was like "What?! No. I don't want to say goodbye to Danganronpa." Then when the game forced you to say "We will end Danganronpa with our own hands" to progress, I thought "Fine... if this is how the series is going to be, might as well say goodbye." Like you said in the video, Weeby, I felt a huge connection to the audience. (It's honestly scary how similar we were.) If my favorite TV show suddenly yelled at me, scolded me for liking it by calling me "sick and twisted", and told me it was ending, I'd feel a heavy bitterness towards it.
@rinwesley3092
@rinwesley3092 6 лет назад
I agree that the ending wasn't executed (heh, 'executed') very well, but I do kinda see why the audience sided with Shuichi. The audience, in my opinion, didn't want to see murder necessarily; they wanted to see human beings overcome a despairing situation. Shuichi made the case that being in a killing game was for them, the contestants, a despairing situation and elicited the audience's help to overcome it by not watching it.
@maverickdarkrath4780
@maverickdarkrath4780 6 лет назад
Thank God this is a alternative universe
@johnathanventura275
@johnathanventura275 6 лет назад
Maybe it was supposed to represent how the fans may have really wanted for Danganronpa to end? I mean if something lasts 53 seasons you'd kinda want it to end especially when they keep using hope and despair as a main theme. The audience could have only wanted Danganronpa to continue out of sheer habit and kinda became ingrained after having this franchise last for so long, so them to stop liking Danganronpa because the "characters" refusing to continue this tradition was enough for them to just give up on the whole thing. I'm just giving my two cents on this.
@katherinesmallbean3594
@katherinesmallbean3594 4 года назад
I always thought that who Kiibo voted for would be based on a majority vote from the viewers. So that means that there would be plenty of people who still wanted Danganronpa to continue, it’s just that they were not part of the majority who sided with the characters
@youtubewanderer3347
@youtubewanderer3347 4 года назад
Personally i think that Tsumugi exagerated the Danganronpa popularity, and that in reality it was a kinda normall show. I also think that the audience thought that everything was prepared and fake, but after seeing Shuichi like that they thought "Oh shit, that might be real" and, as normal human beings, they putted and end to it. Honestly i have a really solid headcannon for V3 Universe, and it fits really well
@soggysoles2872
@soggysoles2872 6 лет назад
I just hope this isn’t the last mainline game in the series.
@HentaiZero
@HentaiZero 6 лет назад
Dangan ronpa 53, here we come!
@soggysoles2872
@soggysoles2872 6 лет назад
HentaiZero ???
@gblazing2802
@gblazing2802 5 лет назад
If they do, I hope they just create a completely different universe. I don't want it to be connected or attached to V3 in any way. A whole new fresh start.
@kingofhearts9020
@kingofhearts9020 4 года назад
GBlazing same. I adore the Hopes Peak and V3 and whatever the hell the actual truth is, but I want a whole new fresh start if they create a mainline game
@albumkosong
@albumkosong 4 года назад
So DR LIV
@n.nnnnnn.d5113
@n.nnnnnn.d5113 6 лет назад
Well in the Last trial have some "clues" to give you the idea that you aren't the "audience" for example: -When the player (controlling keebo) shoot Dispair against naegi tsumugi said: is that what audience said?. But keebo answers that is his decision and he is gonna ignore the audience. -When tsumugi said that the audience is watching danganronpa though keebo eyes, but the player is watching though saihara eyes (exept in class trials) -And tsumugi ask for who created dangaronpa the answer is "team dangaronpa" and not spike chunsoft(the real one in our world) . But still thinking there are few clues in a trial that took 3-4 hours
@camerondickenson8848
@camerondickenson8848 6 лет назад
Team danganronpa is a team within spike chunsoft afaik
@hiccupasterisk
@hiccupasterisk 6 лет назад
Cameron Dickenson team danganronpa doesn't exist. if you Google it all that comes up is the organization in-game. It was made up for this game.
@NotAGoodUsername360
@NotAGoodUsername360 6 лет назад
Cameron Dickenson Nope, Danganronpa has never been organized under a single team, unlike, say, Sonic Team (much to Monokuma's chagrin, I'd imagine)
@camerondickenson8848
@camerondickenson8848 6 лет назад
Ok, sorry lol that was just an assumption on my part, td doesnt exist
@autogirl333
@autogirl333 6 лет назад
I admittedly hated the ending at first because of what you were talking about, that disconnect. It was a mix between that and anger over the fact that they pulled the whole "the previous games never actually happened". Also, the inconsistencies, such as some of the stuff you pointed out about the cospox or Rantaro not being recognized in the prologue, it left me feeling super frustrated. The whole ending left this bitter taste in my mouth. But now that I look at it I'm a bit more lenient towards the ending. The inconsistencies kind of tie into the theme of what they were going for- "truth and lies" "fiction vs. reality". In other words, it doesn't matter what the answer is, because its what you decide to make of it. While I don't love the ending, I'm not as harsh as I was before. Plus, it's given me some ideas for different theories. I think these theories are a little more thought out than mine lol, but still its been fun.
@paulodomes9335
@paulodomes9335 6 лет назад
I found a theory about tsumugi's cospox that she can't cosplay people on the series she's on.
@yaboidawg558
@yaboidawg558 3 года назад
Yeee
@eric7798
@eric7798 6 лет назад
Well, sadly, because of what Kaede said right before the "real" beginning of the story, we can be sure that the part about their talent being fake is true. She did say she had something she was good at but still she was not an ultimate at it, right?
@dobadobadooo
@dobadobadooo 6 лет назад
Yeah, I think so too. Nothing about their pasts that we learn from free-time events make them "ultimates", just invested in their respective talents/hobbies/professions. Because of that, I do think their memories are mostly real, such as Shuichi being an assistant to his uncle, Himiko being a stage-magician, and Maki being an assassin.
@fierytigergaming8112
@fierytigergaming8112 3 года назад
Well, they likely did develop the talents... but in the killing game, because Shuichi became more confident over time (And Maki's murderous tendencies were showing more, even to the point of using them to try and defend Kaito from Monokuma)
@kittylunamewmew
@kittylunamewmew 6 лет назад
This analysis was really helpful. The ending of v3 left my mind totally broken and at first I didn't like the ending at all I thought it was total ass. But then I realized that's the point and the whole plot to have the player determine their conclusion of the ending was honestly a nice touch that I came to love alot. I think V3 is the best DR game imo I just felt so much more connected wirh everyone in this cast, especially Kokichi (lbr he was the main event) I loved him dearly his whole character added so much to the game for me and honestly the ending was worth it! Thanks for the analysis weeby!! Can't wait for more vids!!
@justarandomdude3622
@justarandomdude3622 5 лет назад
I agree ^^ This is also my opinion .
@hiyochi255
@hiyochi255 6 лет назад
Chapter 6 greatly influenced me to not like the game. Halfway through the trial, I found no motivation to continue to play and found it boring to continue to the end. I didn't like it! After some time, reflecting on everything that happened throughout the game, I actually grew to like it. The unanswered mysteries that will make you think of many possible truths, and to detect which are the truths and lies, was actually fun. I find Ouma a very important character in this game, not just because of the whole truth and lies theme, but Ouma actually gave a lot of clues on how everything is going to play out. Like how when you interact with him on his final FTE, he claimed that games can be beaten even when you're not participating, just like how everyone at the end, decided to do. I love the ending now, I agree that it has its own flaws here and there, but surprisingly it fits well for the game's main theme being about truth and lies. But is that really all there is to it though? That may have been Kodaka's lie. >_
@topdoink8764
@topdoink8764 6 лет назад
Oma was build like that cause of plot armor
@LordBlizzard58
@LordBlizzard58 6 лет назад
That's kinda what kadaka wanted, for you to take everything at the end with a grain of salt, believe what you want and call what you dont like a fat lie
@kiwamikanku
@kiwamikanku 6 лет назад
10:32 It's very weird how Saihara is censored but if you check the rest of the audition tapes it says their full name... why is that?
@Kylesico912x
@Kylesico912x 6 лет назад
Could be a twist that Saihara is the true mastermind.
@Petrichorus-
@Petrichorus- 5 лет назад
Tsumugi reaaally wanted to convince them that Kaito and Kaede were awful in order to bring them more despair/hope? And because of that she made a mistake?
@Ejsoskrmfucosj
@Ejsoskrmfucosj 4 года назад
@@Kylesico912x that's a very interesting theory, actually.
@justscrollinginthecomments7930
@justscrollinginthecomments7930 4 года назад
It could just be a way of paralleling real tv censors. Akin to how face and name censors are made. Although at the same time that raises even more questions...
@sapphirebeach8109
@sapphirebeach8109 3 года назад
@@Kylesico912x Kinda like the "You're Izuru Kamakura" thing with Hajime
@Willie_Pete_Was_Here
@Willie_Pete_Was_Here 6 лет назад
I never thought that Tsumugi was exposed to the Flashback Light in the Prologue, and in pretty much every instance that the Flashback was used thereafter. I wonder if it really did give Tsumugi the memories of the mastermind (I like this idea because there could be some other person behind V3). On the other hand, I wonder if simply closing or covering your eyes is enough not to be affected by the Flashback Light. When Shuichi examined the Flashback Light, there were no commands to have the light affect only certain people. Unless Tsumugi had some kind of immunity to the Flashback Light, she would have been affected by it as well.
@shawnshock8651
@shawnshock8651 6 лет назад
It's probably on of the best endings I've seen in media in a long time
@mechashadow
@mechashadow 6 лет назад
Shawn Shock Eh, Deadpool did it first
@seqka711
@seqka711 6 лет назад
Hey Weeby Newz, what do you think about the audience line "I've waited three years for this"? That implies that it's been three years since the last killing game, right? But there are all sorts of things about that that don't make any sense. Like, "why wait three years if this game is so popular", "how has Tsumugi been able to be in charge of more than just one or two killing games if they literally take three years", and "why isn't Rantaro noticeably older than everyone else". Also, the audience is a studio audience, right? If you look at all the comments (there are videos on youtube listing every comment) you'll notice that there are about 20 comments per camera zoom, and lots of those comments are obviously the same person multiple times. Which would imply a small audience chatroom. Plus there's the shot of the studio audience at the end credits. Plus there's no way to have people vote on Keebo's decisions unless there was an audience watching the show 24/7, but danganronpa (the TV show) couldn't possible be structured that way. PLUS, only a studio audience could possibly have all agreed not to vote for Tsumugi, since if you had the entire world voting anonymously, there's no way not a single person voted, but if everyone in a studio audience decided together not to vote, that makes more sense. In the end, I think Danganronpa V3 is a TV show, taking place in a post-Despair world. This isn't the 53rd season, it's the third season (after V and V2) and each season takes three years to create, for a total of nine years. The show is watched for its entire duration by a live studio audience before being edited down and distributed to the rest of the world. As for the audition videos, Tsumugi can't cosplay as real people, and in fact doesn't ever cosplay as a real person. Shuichi and the others are "flesh and blood fictional characters" meaning she can't cosplay as them. We *never once* see Tsumugi cosplay a "flesh and blood fictional character" so that stands to reason that she can't. However, using the flashback Lights, it would be easy to program a memory like "You're about to audition for Danganronpa" and then record their "auditions" using the equipment. Then she could use a blackout light and another flashback light for "your name is Kaede Akamatsu and you were just kidnapped" and then use a blackout light and a flashback light for "You're Kaede Akamatsu the Ultimate Pianist". Cosplaying them would be unnecessary. And whether or not they volunteered or were kidnapped would be forever unknown, as even the prologue would be a lie.
@MythicalxMelody
@MythicalxMelody 6 лет назад
I think the line "I've waited three years for this" is actually just supposed to reference the fact that DR2 came out in 2014 in NA.
@PersianSlashuur
@PersianSlashuur 6 лет назад
Actually, now that I think about it...why _did_ they call it "V3"? I understand why Kodaka did it, but why did Team Danganronpa/Tsumugi call it that? I mean, DR1 trough DR52 had natural numbers. Why did they suddenly decide to use a Roman "5"?
@spacecowboylld
@spacecowboylld 6 лет назад
Any comment towards Tsumugi is also kinda false given the fact that Tsumugi is practically unreal, because she’s a dev for the game.
@Dotoku14
@Dotoku14 6 лет назад
Of all the theories out there, yours has to be the least thought out. Not trolling, I just don't think anything you just said makes any sense. It's literally the epitome of conjecture. This all stemmed from the 3 years thing. But a viewer said plainly that "Season 25 was the best". You can't just pick one comment and make a theory from that when a comment 2 seconds later disproves that whole thing. The end game of your theory is fine though, you're just making weird steps to proving it.
@PWLfr
@PWLfr 6 лет назад
Persian Slashuur we all thought the V3 was because there was already a danganronpa 3 Kodaka was just screwing with us
@CrownedCryptid
@CrownedCryptid 6 лет назад
I absolutely love this ending, yet it's a bit hard to put into words why. I only first played danganronpa in 2016 but the games made me more invested in them than another other piece of media I've played/watched. When playing I felt like I was Makoto and Hajime I was always frightful of who would die next, what the big mystery is, and so on. V3 comes off amazingly meta to me because it's whole plot is basically built on the concept of how engaging and captivating the DR series is to some people. It makes the game an actual game that people consume and enjoy, it's not an in-universe rehabilitation type thing like DR2. I never felt in anyway offended or disappointed by this ending because it just does so much that I've never seen any other piece of media do. It calls itself out and really makes the player think about the concept and importance of fictional storytelling, which was something the previous games already made me do indirectly but this game is literally about that. I can understand the disconnect between the "fans" and the real world community but idk, maybe because I've been a fan for a rather short while I sorta felt the in-universe fans were enjoyably comical representations of how me and other fans sort of feel while playing these games. Also I never felt at all disappointed by the "other games being fake" because...well...to use already they are fake. Making them fake within the game's universe just sorta shows that we as players where put into the position of the "fans" in the game's universe, it just adds an extra layer, no matter how you look at it, they are just stories. I think that really benefits the overall theme and in no way subtracted from the meaning/story/characters/content of the previous games. If anything it actually adds to previous games cuse now we can theorize about "if Junko is real" or "What was Makoto like before he was put in the game", or we can just disregard this twist and continue to enjoy the stories as stories. ...but that's just my opinion. I get very overly invested in fictional media and it's amazing to me that my favorite fictional series is the first one to, out of the blue, have an amazing message like this. I love Danganronpa.
@LRBowas
@LRBowas 6 лет назад
Honestly my take on Tsumugi is this: Since she references a lot of shows over the course of the game, I think that she wanted to be the mastermind due to her obsessivness to be someone who matters - either the hero.... Or the villian. That desperation was her motivation to be the main villian. Honestly the thoughts on the ending was not a positive one. I felt as though a lot of these things just felt forced, I cant exactly describe it, but it just felt really wonky how the ending was portrayed. I'll say it again, I can't describe what exactly made me feel this way, but that, and the counter argument felt really flat and uncomfortable tbh. I'm not really a big fan of V3 in general, so yeah...
@8plays876
@8plays876 Год назад
honestly same. I wish there was an ACTUAL ending and not an ending we have to make ourselves because it makes me feel the whole series was pointless at least for me.I like to think that V1 and V2 REALLY exist in their own unvierse/world and v3 is the "real" world that's based off the games
@tumiesenamela67
@tumiesenamela67 6 лет назад
Until I watched this video I was mad at V3 ending. Now I understand the message and I feel less angry about it.
@EJ-db5pm
@EJ-db5pm 6 лет назад
They should have continued the Gofer Project story smh
@tonyinfinite5174
@tonyinfinite5174 6 лет назад
I agree
@SasukeUchiha723
@SasukeUchiha723 5 лет назад
but that mean everyone including makoto and kirigiri dies....... noooooo.. well, they could just say THAT was fiction, by making shuichi find that gofer is fiction
@lindsey7544
@lindsey7544 4 года назад
Sasuke Uchiha well makoto and kirigiri die anyway, as them not even being real in the first place
@bandicootsmwcentral2950
@bandicootsmwcentral2950 4 года назад
Tecnically they cant die if they dont exist xd
@Jose-bw5cm
@Jose-bw5cm 6 лет назад
yes!!! i also noticed that part with shuichi´s named being like censored, and in the prologue he introduced himself with the same name, and that theory of Tsumugi being implanted with memories of being the mastermind would be so cool!!
@fierytigergaming8112
@fierytigergaming8112 3 года назад
It was the censorship which made me suspect the videotape in the first place
@d..b5490
@d..b5490 6 лет назад
I'll just be here, rocking in a chair till the Ouma analysis comes. Though Koreki's my second favorite character in v3 so l'm completely fine with that coming before
@thefrostyicecreamslush
@thefrostyicecreamslush 6 лет назад
I liked the ending. Makes me wonder about what happened in Rantaro's previous game. The people he met, the things that went down... Would that game have used a similar plot to V3, or perhaps every new season has a new plot?
@PWLfr
@PWLfr 6 лет назад
the plot ? you mean the spaceship stuff ? I believe each one is different
@zetracrow9818
@zetracrow9818 6 лет назад
We all can create our own version of 52th killing game
@StarPlatinum-ch3gi
@StarPlatinum-ch3gi 2 года назад
Maybe that danganronpa 4 to 51 was actually a lie
@genericyoutubecommentchann7418
I'm glad that you think the rest of the series is real too. In the past when I tried saying how I felt, I had a few people call me desperate for it to be canon. I think the fact that Shuichi says that his theory is probably wrong ironically indicates this as well, because in Danganronpa 2, Byakuya says that it's unlikely that the dead remnants will wake up. But we know what happened.
@clovered
@clovered 5 лет назад
So, I did a rant on this subject a few days ago. I have some things I really don't like in the ending. First of all, I feel like they continuously break the fourth wall until it's really just uncomfortable and annoying. Like how they kept saying the name, and as you said, feeling like the game is calling me out. And how they spend nearly two hours repeating that Danganronpa is fake and everything is fictional. Another thing is how they changed some of the voice actors, which sometimes is *very* noticeable. Specifically, Sakura Ogami and Sayaka Maizono. I also have an unpopular opinion, which is that I don't like how at the end, suddenly Kiibo is the protagonist. It seemed kinda weird that it's such a quick change from Kaede dying in the first chapter, to switching to Shuichi for 5 chapters, then suddenly you switch to Kiibo for half an hour. Then when it immediatly switches back to Shuichi, the game's over. That's most of my list, the rest are just me getting mad over Kokichi.
@popcultureoverdosed
@popcultureoverdosed Год назад
This is literally one of the best video game endings ever. I love meta fiction and how it can get the audience to rethink their perspectives. Danganronpa 1-3 were videogames within the v3 world and inspired a series of real killing games. It was such an amazing plot twist. A lot of the peiple who hate this ending just dont like storiesnthat make them think.
@lonewolfhowl100
@lonewolfhowl100 6 лет назад
Thank God I wasn't the only one to notice these things. (Notice how the eyes of who Tsumugi cosplay says V3?)
@bigboater9109
@bigboater9109 6 лет назад
can you make a video talking about the necronomicon. i dont know about other people but i havnt been able to find any solid reasoning to what would happen if they used the book
@scarecrow2657
@scarecrow2657 6 лет назад
TruePietro here's my guess: Assumindo the killing game is a show and the flashback lights worked,the necronomicon motive would actually work. All they needed to do was to get someone from the outside world (someone with similar physical traits of the one being resurected),use make up to make him identical to the deceased,they use the flashback light to inplant the the same personality and the memories of their time at the ultimate Academy until they were killed. Making the same character but with a different person
@FragolinaGolosina
@FragolinaGolosina 6 лет назад
But he's not the same person
@jabbajacks
@jabbajacks 6 лет назад
The way I've come to understand this: this is a series of logic puzzles with Kokichi at the heart of it. Kokichi is the walking talking representation of a logic trap aka Liar's Paradox, and decoding him is the key to decoding the whole game situation and its implications. I should also draw your attention to the fact he does indeed have a brother as per his FTE, and 'twins' comes up in the password for the vault. The fact that Kokichi's *last* name is also used is very notable, too. Since Kokichi and DICE are obviously chasing someone connected to Monokuma, and he talks about an organisation [he] inherited that has an extremely powerful influence over the world, we're talking something along the level of Big Brother in 1984, brainwashing and torture included. The suggestion here is the one Kokichi impersonates, and the one he's chasing, is his own twin brother, and the 'head' as it were, of Team Danganronpa itself: the 'Big Brother' of this game. If the organisation was operational long before the brother inherited it, it definitely had an impact on the brothers, and in the worst sense. Kokichi's made reference to torture a number of times, and suggests that the organisation involves torturous games, while he has a trigger towards bugs, while looking extremely pale and at times sickly- heavily implying he himself has been tortured. He even says that 'food sleep and sex' will be given to you, while his Love Hotel heavily implies that he was raped, as he demonstrated the fact to Shuichi quite bluntly. And.. given who he masquerades as - his brother - this only gets so much worse, not to mention the suggestion that detectives would even do that, on top of torture people. The implications of torture and rape - not to mention the spear and shield crest on Kokichi, the whole 'horse' shtick and straitjacket symbolising insanity - are references to Cassandra of Troy - a seer determined on saving her country from a disaster no one believed - who was similarly treated, ousted as a liar, and also has a twin. Kokichi also has an uncanny habit of reading peoples' lies, even reading peoples' minds and predicting events with ridiculous accuracy. He also evidently knows the group (as he tells Kaede that he remembers her!), and suggests overall that he knows far more than they, about the outside world. Additionally, Tsumugi's birthdate is the same as 'Victory over Japan Day', while Kodaka has confirmed the V to mean 'Victory'. 'Victory' is also a brand in the novel 1984, known for the 'Big Brother' I mentioned earlier. Make what you will of that, but yeah there's a **lot** more to this.. "fiction" under the surface, Kokichi's 'lies', and the true state of the outside world. Kodaka's vague commentary about making what you will of it.. basically saying the puzzle is yours to work out.
@genericyoutubecommentchann7418
Kokichi = Kodaka’s inner self
@444beatrix
@444beatrix 6 лет назад
GenericRU-vidComment Channel Are you saying Kodaka was raped by his own brother?
@genericyoutubecommentchann7418
+Big Daddy High Noon Showdown Lol. No XD. I just meant that Kodaka enjoys misleading his audience like Kokichi does.
@jabbajacks
@jabbajacks 6 лет назад
I think you'll find *Kokichi's* not the one doing the misleading..
@genericyoutubecommentchann7418
+Jacks - Very true
@im2sweg4u29
@im2sweg4u29 6 лет назад
i personally do love the ending. it has some flaws but i think a perfectly executed ending is nearly impossible for any games. i do understand what they wanted us to see in the ending and by watching this vid, i came to understand fully. but whether i like or dislike the ending, it won’t change the fact that danganronpa changed my life and i won’t hate the whole series by one ending(but i like the ending so..yeah)
@lindsey7544
@lindsey7544 4 года назад
i dont think it was perfectly executed but it was pretty good
@wowjennawow
@wowjennawow 6 лет назад
how i see the ending is that if everything was really made up, then the claim of it all being fiction could just as easily be made up, similar to the claim that the students were the only remaining people alive from whatever world they’re from. i feel like there’s way too much backstory (junko, the ultimate despair, towa city, the neo world program, etc) for it to be part of the killing game show. there are too many contradictions, like you mentioned. great video, you pretty much covered everything that i’ve considered. i haven’t done any research or anything, so here are the questions i have regarding the ending. if anyone knows feel free to reply!! 1. where does something like ultra despair girls fit into this? it’s not a killing game, so how does it tie in? a spinoff series? if this is all fiction, is the real world in the same state as towa city? UPDATE: in sdr2 there’s a poster with komaru holding a hacking gun and hajime calls it a movie poster so maybe drae is a movie spinoff, though i feel like it was more of an easter egg than proof for the sixth trial of ndr3 2. how does the anime fit in? the hope and despair arcs also don’t follow the killing game storyline, so if it’s fiction then why are the survivors of the first killing game the only ones to end up at future foundation? what was the point of coming up with the future foundation in the second game as well? 3. do ultimates exist outside of the world of the killing game? 4. if this is an official season of the killing game, then did everyone from the others actually survive since this is claimed to be an imitation by tsumugi? do the viewers know?
@pokefan7446
@pokefan7446 6 лет назад
wowjennawow DanganRonpa 3 WAS a killing game. At least the Future arc was.
@PWLfr
@PWLfr 6 лет назад
All this happened in a fictional world known as danganronpa. Ultimate doesn't exist, towa city and killing games neither
@PWLfr
@PWLfr 6 лет назад
The only purpose if it is to entertain the "viewers" of the fictional real world thanks to the fictional team danganronpa
@Cocotherabbit101917
@Cocotherabbit101917 6 лет назад
I would honestly like to believe that the "everything is fiction" concept was a lie. (Maybe that's because I put too much work into those other games for it to be fake so I'm in denial ovo;; ) But I was talking to my little brother about this while playing the last trial of v3. Tsumugi's cospox situation by itself is really bizarre and there could be many loopholes (hell, it could of been a lie itself.) What if she just can't cosplay as currently living people? So maybe by this point in time Makoto and the others are dead because it's been so long since they've lived so she's freely able to cosplay as them? (I know it's a loose theory lol) I don't feel like anyone would willingly subject themselves to this killing game unless they were really ready to die. Another thing that bothers me is that, if they're die hard fans of the game, they should of known that their memories would of been erased and they would be put through that despair. I dunno. I'm kind of grasping at straws lol. I don't really like the "everything is fiction" conclusion.
@ayanokoujikiyotaka3857
@ayanokoujikiyotaka3857 3 года назад
It just hurts that the 1st and 2nd game was not real
@wefee3
@wefee3 3 года назад
To be fair it is a fictional game
@chocococonut6963
@chocococonut6963 5 лет назад
Personally, I believe that tsumugi was lying about their personalities being altered. In the prologue, Miu and rantaro had the same personality as during the game, so it would make sense if their personalities were never altered.
@charlottereilly5159
@charlottereilly5159 6 лет назад
I was kind of confused about the ending, but your analysis helped clear everything up, thank you Weeby keep doing what you're doing!!!
@itsjoesantos9553
@itsjoesantos9553 6 лет назад
The best thing this game did in my opinion was the characters, not that one given character was the best in the franchise but rather very few members of the cast felt irrelevant. The only ones whom I felt fell flat were Kirumi, Tsumugi, and to a degree Ryoma. As to the ending it was my least favorite of the 3 games although I don't think it was horrible. I really liked Saihara as the MC, but I'd still put him second to Hajime. I think the main 4 characters, Shuichi, Kaito, Maki, and Oma, were also some of the best out of the other games. In terms of the trials overall I felt that they were a bit too complicated, not that they were hard, but a teenager would not come up with something like what they did #seesaw.
@Don11037
@Don11037 5 лет назад
Himoke was poo poo
@NortonTaylor
@NortonTaylor 6 лет назад
I've got to admit I was one of the players who felt wildly insulted by the ending, but came around to liking it alot after giving it more analysis. I do think the whole concept of the ending is actually really cool, but I don't think it was executed very well and that's where a lot of players fell into the trap of feeling grouped in with the audience and not with Saihara and the other survivors. It's easier to feel attacked then to give deep analysis on the spot. Especially in games where the time your given to think about what is being said is limited. Not to mention I was comically getting triggered by the excessive number of times the characters said 'Dangan Ronpa'. lol.
@BeeLy1011
@BeeLy1011 2 года назад
My friend said something like "Danganronpa doesn't even sound like a word anymore" during our playthrough lol
@Meowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeo420
@Meowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeo420 4 года назад
I cryed my heart out when kokichi died I still cry it really impacted me in multiple ways especially because I relate to him so when he died I cryed so hard
@yellowdeceiver4818
@yellowdeceiver4818 6 лет назад
Honestly about tsumugi cosplaying as kaede I always assumed that when she asked kaede to turn around that she ate a pill or something that'd make her swell up I mean she did say that just the though could make her burst out in cospox
@TrueGinjaNinjaGamer
@TrueGinjaNinjaGamer 6 лет назад
I definitely thought Tsumugi was lying in the last trial! I couldn't quite piece it together though.
@TrueGinjaNinjaGamer
@TrueGinjaNinjaGamer 6 лет назад
I also found it was weird that the "Neo World program" looked so different. And if they lived in a fictional world with their fictional rules, why did the oxygen not leave the ship when Keebo broke the end wall? When they opened the door at the end of the tunnel in the 5th chapter that happened, so that would mean in the so called fictional world would have the destroyed earth surrounding the ship. Anyway, what I am trying to get at is that the V3 characters may already be in the Neo World program from the start of the game. I am not sure why, but with the incosistancy I mentioned, plus Tsumugi's lines and cospox, lead me to believe the events of the first 2 games were actually happened.
@tenmetresam
@tenmetresam 4 года назад
my theory is that hopes peak and the remnants did exist, and team danganronpa made a tv show based off those events. Also the kidnapping scene during the prologue was fabricated and people sent in bios and pictures about themselves so they could have a persona of them in the tv show, without actually dying, kinda like a experiment to see how far and how they would react to certain events
@orangeville1978
@orangeville1978 5 лет назад
I still think that the Hopes Peak trilogy was still real in terms of the Danganronpa lore. Whereas V3 was as they said, a fictional world. It was confirmed that V3 was never meant to continue the original trilogy, instead being it's own story. Kodaka even said that "They're (the viewers in NDRV3) from completely different world. That world's viewers aren't our players. It's really popular in the world over there. In the world over here its not... (laughs)" I took two different meanings from this. One of them is that the ending was not meant to hate on the fans. The other meaning is that V3 is not only fictional, but also set in an alternate timeline where people actually liked the killing games so they never stopped. My theory is that the other part of the twist was V3 being a completely different storyline from DR1, 2, and the anime. In conclusion, the plot twist revealed two timelines of the Danganronpa lore. The Hopes Peak timeline where the events taking place during the killing games really did happen, and the V3 timeline where the killing games were real, but people enjoyed them so they never ended until the 53rd killing game. Whether or not V3 is the final game, I honestly doubt it's the last game.
@someguyoutthere110
@someguyoutthere110 4 года назад
My first playthrough I came away thinking that the creators just really didnt want to make any more Danganronpa games
@CypressKing
@CypressKing 4 года назад
Same here. I mean, if they didn't want to they could have just tweeted about it. Not make us sit through an entire game just to tell us that all that we've worked for isn't real and that this is the last time we're ever going to experience a DR game.
@blitzvalentine363
@blitzvalentine363 4 года назад
I have a pretty good memory, so when I played the game, I immediately saw all the inconsistencies and immediately came up with the theory that what Tsumugi was saying wasn't true before I even got to the epilogue. Of course, they could have done what they did with the prologue so that it wasn't given away too soon that the killing game was a show since some players, including myself, would have figured out the truth way too soon
@ms.argentum3721
@ms.argentum3721 6 лет назад
I've watched so many V3 ending analysis videos, but I haven't come across one that captures my own feelings perfectly (I mean everyone has different opinions so that's alright I guess). I was even planning to make a video myself 'cause the ending kept occupying my thoughts lol But now there is no need for that anymore. Thank you Weeby for this perfection. If anyone asks for my personal thoughts on the ending I will just show them this video xD I really love the ending and I believe it has an incredibly powerful message, especially for people who are quite immersed in fiction, like me for example
@MrToonlink53
@MrToonlink53 6 лет назад
I understand the meaning of ending but I still hate it. It sounds neat on paper but the execution was rather sloppy
@browncow5210
@browncow5210 6 лет назад
"There is only ever one absolute truth. Whether that truth serves justice or suffering... Whether it's the greatest truth or the worst... Even if the truth you uncover leads to hopelessness, you still can't give up hope." I still have a hard time believing the same person that wrote the first two games created this and betrayed that theme. It was such a huge point in the other games that the truth is concrete regardless of whether we like it or not, and the best we can do is to accept it for what it is and keep pushing forward. Now we get this mess that tells us it's okay to live in denial and believe whatever we want. Had this simply turned into a matter of distinguishing the truth from the lies, as any self respecting mystery should and it was initially on track of doing, it could have easily been salvaged.
@fmaster99
@fmaster99 6 лет назад
Brown Cow One of the messages of V3 is that you need to face the truth to make your own choice though. That didn't change even in the ending since that's what Shuichi uses to convince Himiko. And the whole "lies can be good" theme isn't about denial but about aspects of lies that can impact someone positively and change them for the better. Fiction is an example, it's a lie, but it still affects people and it affected the survivors for the better.
@kyrieshark
@kyrieshark 6 лет назад
I was so confused on how to express my feelings about the ending, and I feel like you nailed it. While I was playing, I was seriously conflicted- I did feel like the audience represented me, and that I was being indicted for playing and enjoying the game by the characters. I felt seriously sour about the entire series for days afterward, because I felt it was really unfair in the context of the game. I doubt many of us would be okay with a game in which real teenagers killed one another for our viewing entertainment. Of course there would be plenty of people who would- but it wouldn't be a world obsessed the way it's depicted in the game, and definitely wouldn't include me. It pushed me away entirely. I felt despair not because I connected with Saihara's desire to reject the audience, but because something I loved was almost certainly ending in front of my eyes, and not only that, but I was being criticized for loving it in the first place. I don't hate the ending after sitting on it and having read Kodaka's statements, I fully understand and appreciate what he was going for, but I unfortunately sometimes feel I love the game despite the botched delivery of their intent, versus the actual intent itself.
@LathropLdST
@LathropLdST 6 лет назад
#Weeby For some, there is a confirmation in-game about HPA being real. Looking at how the 52 books in the shelf differ, the older ones have illustrations, the newer ones photos. If it started using real people after DR3 established HPA was up and running mere 8 months after its arc conclusion, the first two games were real, thus no photos, but from then onwards they turned out to be killing games. That is the theory running around Tumblr, at least. Thanks for crediting Comun's work! :)
@taloon3222
@taloon3222 6 лет назад
I took it as the older ones (presumably 1, 2 and 3) being in-universe games with illustrations, like our reality and that it all started out as a video game franchise. Then the newer ones with photos were the ultimate-real-fiction killing games.
@candywrapperslifesmatter3222
@candywrapperslifesmatter3222 6 лет назад
I love this video btw I can't wait for Gonta's character analysis
@dagaspadini
@dagaspadini 6 лет назад
Great Video as usual! Since Kodaka mentioned this world where Killing games are popular, I'd like to see if they're going to develop this thing further. The ending was confusing, but that's probably what they were aiming to do: there are a lot of uncertainties and unanswered questions like in DR, and all we can do is to speculate.
@fernandocruz8369
@fernandocruz8369 6 лет назад
When you replay the game you actually find yourself shouting together with shuichi at least in my case
@makhyusnimakhyusni401
@makhyusnimakhyusni401 3 года назад
This make Kokichi line "there many possibilities for lies" make sense
@xenorayy
@xenorayy 3 года назад
4:30 that's *exactly* how I felt while watching the last trial. The reality of the game itself telling me it's all fiction made me feel despair, especially since it came from the characters themselves, even if it was just Tsumugi cosplaying as them. In 1 and 2 we saw Makoto, Hajime and the rest of the characters experience it, but for the finale it was our turn. I can't speak for everyone but he definitely nailed it trying to making me feel despair.
@eric7798
@eric7798 6 лет назад
And something really strange that I noticed. Remember the bug in the 4th execution? Tsumugi did talk about it in the first trial at some point. O.o So she basically thought about it from this point?
@NotAGoodUsername360
@NotAGoodUsername360 6 лет назад
Clutter78 She also drops an ominous "I didn't think we'd get to hang out" foreshadowing in her FTEs with Kaede, implying at the very least the executions were all planned out in advanced. She also kinda confirms this in Chapter 6 where she admits she never expected a total party kill to occur and didn't have a prepared punishment, therefore having to leave it to Kiibo. It's possible she had planned executions for everybody to be used as needed
@Niaoni
@Niaoni 6 лет назад
I really love the ending. Even when i first thought they were portraying the audience like obsessive fangirls xD The thought of them taking jabs at some of the audience just made me genuinely laugh. Especially since the game was making fun of itself like - it's always Junko even if it's repetitive. And the thought that it's up to us to decide how true the story was, just sounds amazing to me. (And it fits the theme perfectly) At first i really didn't like that the 3 of them survived because it felt like it made their speeches about sacrificing themselves kinda redundant. But i understand that they had to explain that everything possibly isn't as it seems. So okay, i can live with that. + i really liked that they took the risky way of trying something new other than - it always ends in hopebagels. Honestly, that would have pissed me off more than anything. Though after playing through i was really confused about the ending just as many people were. I guess that's pretty common :D I appreciate you taking Kodaka's actual tweets to clarify, thanks, Weeby!
@panicsquad3023
@panicsquad3023 5 лет назад
I understand the intent of the ending but I don't care. This is a game, games are fun. The reason people play games with stories is to get immersed in a world separate from our own, to say that it was all fake broke my immersion into little pieces and only made the world of Danganronpa feel immensely empty and I can't bring myself to care for the characters. I understand that, that was for despair's sake but frick team Danganronpa; I wouldn't get immersed in the world of the game if they were going to pull this, and now playing it feels like a waste of time.
@squirtyharry
@squirtyharry 6 лет назад
I loved the ending. My interpretation is that Tsumugi became the mastermind after the first flashblack light and that team danganronpa made her think that she was. I think its all just one complex lie.
@kairix4070
@kairix4070 6 лет назад
I loved what you said in this video Weeby! I personally can't say that I hated the ending, but I don't love it either, I felt that the ending was alright or just ok and left me satisfied with how it ended in a way. I do understand the people that either hated this ending or loved it, but I do certainly respect and appreciate Kodaka on what he did in Chapter 6 for the ending since it is something we don't see very often. I do look forward to some of the character analysis videos you will do in the future especially for Kokichi Ouma. Keep up the good work Weeby and thanks!
@_xavier_rosas_
@_xavier_rosas_ 3 года назад
First off, I’ve delved head deep into Danganronpa for the past month. I’ve watched through Trigger Happy Havoc (plus I watched DR: The Animation just to see how that was), Goodbye Despair, Ultimate Despair Girls, The End Of Hope’s Peak High School Anime, and then Killing Harmony. I purposely stayed away from reviews and stuff like that so I could go in fully blind (plus I voice Makoto, Hajime/Izuru, & Shuichi while I watched everything, lol). Second, even though the final chapter of Killing Harmony was absolutely wack as hell to the point where I thought where there was a LOT of unnecessary stuff in the trial, specifically with Junko’s sUdDeN appearance (I literally groaned when she showed up) and the fourth wall destroyed to the point where it was uncanny, the epilogue calmed those outrageous moments and gave it a decently satisfying ending... Now, looking back at everything, personally, I think everything in the Danganronpa games actually happened in their universe and them breaking the fourth wall signifies their characters coming into reality rather than being emotionally tormented like they were during the killing game.
@ryanm7428
@ryanm7428 6 лет назад
I am totally opposite from most people! I felt that the game was telling me off, and I loved every second of it! It just made sense to me, in an amazing meta way.
@YokuTamara
@YokuTamara 6 лет назад
I wonder what would happen if you went back to the beginning and picked tsumugi as the killer for the first trial
@ItsKicks
@ItsKicks 6 лет назад
Alex DeGroot Yeah I'm curious about that
@YokuTamara
@YokuTamara 6 лет назад
Like on her final play through of the game it always peaked my interest on whether or not it would either give a different ending or add some sort of special effect
@paranoialp6426
@paranoialp6426 6 лет назад
Unfortunately I tried it and nothing had happened. During the vote in the only one who voted tsumugi and she didn't have any special dialogue, and if you choose her when accusing Kaede before the argument armament Kaede just told shuichi to follow the truth. I wish they did do something but unfortunately there was nothing special. Hope this answers your question ideally.
@YokuTamara
@YokuTamara 6 лет назад
yeah it did thank you so much for the info, and yeah that kinda sucks that there isn't any special dialogue to go along with it, oh well hahaha
@fyrewatermelons
@fyrewatermelons 6 лет назад
I agree with you with the analysis of the finale. The audience, to me, felt like it was a direct representation of the real-life audience of Danganronpa rather than a satire. If they would have made the disconnect more clear, then I believe the finale would have been better in my opinion.
@fyrewatermelons
@fyrewatermelons 6 лет назад
As for all the inconsistencies, it makes my head hurts.
@Bobplushie666
@Bobplushie666 2 года назад
Now that we know what the ending means we can figure out that one death had to happen to get this great ending Kaede’s. Reviewing her character she is constantly pushing for hope to triumph despair meaning if she had made it to the trial then hope would’ve continued to beat despair and by extension the show goes on Having a character like shuichi who ends up denying hope AND despair (something I don’t think kaede could do) we get this end
@StarGazerTom1991
@StarGazerTom1991 6 лет назад
I try to see it as DR having 2 different cannons. 1 where it's reality (DR1, DR2, UDG, DR3) and 1 where it's all fictional. Great ending, but just way too confusing, imo, to be the "true" cannon.
@destincreations9548
@destincreations9548 6 лет назад
Did they ever alaberate on kaede's sister ? I am very confused
@budmeister
@budmeister 6 лет назад
She didn't actually have a sister. That was fake, meant to make the player think that the fake sister was the mastermind and not someone else. Therefore, that was just a red herring.
@genericyoutubecommentchann7418
Unless her sister in real life was an actress for another Danganronpa character. I thought she looked a lot like Natsumi Kuzuryu, so I wouldn't be surprised if real life Kaede had a sister that also went on the show. (I'm not claiming this to be fact, this is only a scenario I thought of)
@YoZentrus
@YoZentrus 6 лет назад
The Kaede's sister plot line was fed to them by Team Danganronpa, so it was probably just a red herring. Otherwise, it could be a way to have Saihara and "Kaede" reconnect in some future story content. If they made Kaede's twin have a similar nature to her, it could be like a reunion in spirit. Sort of how DR3 let us reconnect with _____, even though it was a different person.
@gvs485
@gvs485 6 лет назад
Great video, everything makes sense in my head now! Thx a lot! This great video made me go back to Danganronpa universe and rethink everything of the game Please continue making videos And for the plot, I relly dont know what is true or false,what is fiction or reality, but I just HOPE that will have more game Danganronpa games. =D
@tehsilentshinobi4224
@tehsilentshinobi4224 6 лет назад
Ah, nice video Weeby! I feel similar; when I played V3, I disliked the ending at first, but after thinking about it more I found that I ended up really liking it. One thing that I liked about the epilogue and the whole "fiction" aspect is that it's the epitome of the theme of the game. The entire game is built off of the theme "Truth vs. Lies", and the epilogue really kinda hits that home, imo. Like, the ending opening the possibility of it being a lie, or a truth, or whatever helps support the idea of each player "choosing their own reality and perspective from a lie", like CH.4 and CH.5 did, and I think that's a really beautiful part of it all.
@letsrank9349
@letsrank9349 4 года назад
The thing you said about being dragged and its like Saihara and the gang and rejecting US the players is so correct. It feels like being shamed for something I love and in the end I was not given a consolation in the end.
@cavaliafs7920
@cavaliafs7920 6 лет назад
Still my favourite channel!
@hi-hm5lm
@hi-hm5lm 3 года назад
i think the reason they didn’t know who rantaro was is because they didn’t have their talents yet, they were all just normal people. but when they got their talents, they were given fake memories so maybe rantaro wasn’t actually a survivor of the last killing game but that memory was just implanted in him so that he could think he was the ultimate survivor
@FirstRisingSouI
@FirstRisingSouI 6 лет назад
V3's ending was my favorite from the moment I experienced it. I'm really good at putting myself in the place of the character, so I got the meaning of the ending right away, and didn't feel at all like I was being slighted as an audience member.
@moonyasnow36
@moonyasnow36 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for this. When i finished the game i truly felt like i was being thrown into despair because of the 'reveal' of Danganronpa just being a live show in their universe. Even if Tsumugi actually told the truth and nothing but the truth i feel much more comfortable with the idea that the future foundation and the remnants of despair existing. So i am willing to accept it even if it is a lie, because it makes me happier than what Tsumugi told me does. Again thank you for putting these thoughts in my head, truht or not.
@unbind_all
@unbind_all 6 лет назад
I feel like the best disconnect between the audience and us that could've been used was barely skimmed over. Celeste and Taka briefly explain how the world was so peaceful, and that the resulting boredom made them go mad for excitement when Danganronpa happened. Kinda reminds me of, oh I don't know, JUNKO ENOSHIMA. Namely, the mindset of "growing boredom = killing game attachment". But again, they skim over it, so most probably don't think on that part long enough to get this form of disconnect.
@Habi-Bilal
@Habi-Bilal 5 лет назад
If Tsimugi was the ultimate cosplayer, it would've been very easy for her to make up cospox as part of her alibi... I believe it was a tv show and tsumigi was the mastermind, but she cosplayed as a different person/ultimate in every season so the audience had to guess who the mastermind was as well, and just a coincidence that this time she was someone who had an ultimate of transforming like cosplaying... so anyway they beat her and the killing game show and will go into an outside world that hopefully will help them recover...
@kaiminus
@kaiminus 6 лет назад
I don't think the V3 audience was realistic. In the real world, there would have been twitch chat comments like "Don't kill Monodam again. BibleThump " And more seriously, we are talking about a world that allowed ~50 reality shows where people killed each other, and people were obsessed with it. Personally I think we were supposed to reject that world and not think we were a part of it.
@TheNorthy
@TheNorthy 4 года назад
I felt just like you. I was unsure if the game was criticizing me or an fictional audience.
@NEon-hs6ey
@NEon-hs6ey 6 лет назад
Please dont hate Shirogane, I like her as an antagonist.
@danielwhite3244
@danielwhite3244 6 лет назад
me too. her reason and existence is a lot more compelling than junko becuase junko goal in a nutshell is "lol despair". tsumugi is an obsessed fangirl and obsession in any form can lead anyone to do twisted things. its also possible that due to her plainess, she is also obsessed with standing out even if it means being a complete psycho. then theres this mystery whether she is actually evil or were just brainwashed by team danganronpa to be a villain in drv3, thus making her a lot more interesting. thats my opinion anyway
@zetracrow9818
@zetracrow9818 6 лет назад
Junko is more interesting to me
@luciano8823
@luciano8823 6 лет назад
I was waiting for this Queen W 💜
@hikariblue4544
@hikariblue4544 6 лет назад
I liked the ambiguity of the ending since is really emphasizes the concept of fiction bleeding into reality. It almost forces us to make theories to make sense of all the inconsistencies, unresolved points, etc.
@Zinjo
@Zinjo 6 лет назад
I kinda got that the DR 'real world' was different to our real world. Mostly from the hangman's gambit answer being "Implant" I kinda got that it was a show in the DR universe, and that it was real people who were implanted with a fictional person's memories
@dire9619
@dire9619 6 лет назад
Can't wait for the characters analysis's. Going back and seeing the characters speculation after and before is going to be fun.
@LattePunch
@LattePunch 6 лет назад
I think their first memories and talents were real along with the kidnapping thing. People might be really, really, really, desperate for entertainment out there but there's no way they'd let kids go on a show where they'd have to kill or be killed by one another. Child services would be on that in seconds. After reading a good handful of fanfics of the characters post-game going through both mental and physical therapy it brings ups also the big hole that people abusing themselves to that extreme would in no way be aloud past 3 episodes let alone 53 seasons. It's like willingly going into a toxic chemical chamber in a group and whoever passes out last wins, winning by being the last one surviving after 5 days despite gaining a lethal cancer in the process then someone giving you medical coverage for life. Your life has been shortened, you've likely had to both watch and possibly participate in cannibalism to survive, you'll be in constant terrible pain from the disease each doctor visit along with horrible nightmares but hey look you got a cash prize........ Even if you were mentally unstable to begin with you wouldn't do that once let alone twice like Rantaro's video implied.
@VVen0m
@VVen0m 4 года назад
Thanks, this video made me a bit more comfortable with this ending
@999Plasma
@999Plasma 6 лет назад
I am so thankfull to you for being able to put words on what i felt during this last trial. I am among the numerous people that felt akward seeing the (or so i thought) total 4th wall break, and ashamed by being told that i'm enjoying watching people suffer.
@littlepooond6739
@littlepooond6739 6 лет назад
Do Rantaro character analysis
@futuredreamspodcastandinte8067
Yes he’s my favorite DRV3 Boy
@nomibunni
@nomibunni 6 лет назад
I also feel like this was also made a change in my life ever since V3 came out through personal situations, I also find that part when Tsumugi broke out in Cospox while dressing up as Kadae, what I do predict in my opinion, Tsumugi was telling the truth regardless, and like you said it's likely possible that everyone and everything else is fictional, but from the lack of evidence it's difficult to say, I did however that I felt amazed at the end for them breaking through the fourth wall like that, but also very irritated and upset as well from the confusion in the ending, overall, I had ALLOT of mixed emotions about this and allot of thought after watching the gameplay ever since
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