@@mickcarson8504 I always wondered is the pay good!? I personally thought it would be, cause of the work and dangers. But hell I've worked dangerous jobs and been paid straight shit!!! Lol but for real wanted to know if it was good pay with benefits 401K plans insurance etc.
@@Crumbaa I mean right!?! They have got to be getting paid pretty good with hella good benefits!!! I googled it and it's good but I wanna know from a person cause you cant always trust that BS like I googled about machinist pay and it's all over the place and I got a buddy who gets paid $38 an hour and been there for 3 years and started at $30 off rip!!! I guess it depends for what type and the area ofcourse!!
@@thatquietneighbor3637 honestly I feel like they probably aren’t making anywhere near as much as they should. it’s the guy who’s up in an AC office with computer screens in front of him who is raking it in.
The guys that work the steel manually have real talent. The maintenance on the machinery would be mindblowing. No wonder everything costs so much, initial investments must be huge. Long way from a blacksmith.
Its amazing that a hammer increases the temperature of the already glowing hot metal, also how blacksmiths figured it out too with just a basic hand held hammer
Yeah I was wondering if they added that section to show the difference of the hand forging versus their big machines, when I heard the voices I realize they had sped up the video as was my suspicion.
@@KA-pq3yz how would you know that? think of where this is and the fact every profession has got rules and regulation they got to follow and it seems to me most people who are in charge and got there by hard work like the ones they are are in charge over really do care for people now that's not the same for every situation but y'all always love to assume every rich guy or guy in power is only doing it for money and does not care about anything else a pretty naive way of think if you ask me perhaps even ignorant. You may be right but who knows respect all
@@KA-pq3yz My point still stands not every company nor country has the same safety precautions. Also these are professionals Im almost certain but hey you are free to judge as I am
I worked at a forge press factory for a few months making Aerospace and car parts.. hardest job i ever had, taught me a lot of humility and to be grateful i dont have to do that anymore haha
The hydraulic machines in the first segment are pretty impressive. The guys doing the hammering in the second segment look like they have a hard job. Loud, hot and physically demanding.
You have to be there to understand the immense heat coming off that steel. I’ve had the opportunity to tour facilities in the UK as well as several plants here in the USA
amazing how long the steel remains red hot. It’s bashed into shape and then moved to another machine to be shaped some more. Pesumably the large size retains the heat.
“Surface area to volume ratio” is the phenomenon at play here. As objects get bigger, their volume grows faster than their surface area. This is why a large chuck of stew can stay so hot for so long, there’s just a lot of hot steel and not much surface area for the heat to escape. This is also why the most efficient engines in the world are also the largest. As a cylinder gets bigger, you get a lot more volume (power) but not a lot more surface area (lost efficiency by losing heat to the water jacket)
Conversely, this is what explains the shape of heat sinks. All those fins create a huge surface area for a tiny amount of volume. So they are optimized to shed heat as fast as possible. The opposite of a heat sink would be a sphere.
We use to have a aluminum mill in our area that their electric bill alone was in excess of a million dollars monthly. Not factoring in natural gas use. Always found this stuff very interesting.
@@rodgerwoods4971 and people believe the windmills have the horsepower (or wattage) to heat or melt parts that big. The electrodes "wires" are anywhere from 6 to 14 inches in diameter just to conduct the necessary juice, and thats just one...
@@jeffwombold9167 Yes sir. And to deliver the amperage needed is massive. And as you stated, windmills, solar panels, etc isn't going to cut it. And the mill hammers are awesome. Not sure of the pressure used, but it makes easy work of it.
0:10 изготовление кольца на раскаточном многовалковом станке 2:45 китайцы куют на улице в рукопашную 5:47 изготовление железнодорожного колеса 7:25 рекламное видео завода 9:13 изготовление вала 11:21 какая-то левая труба 11:45 изготовление детали (кочерга)
0:10 making a ring on a multi-roll mill 2:45 the Chinese forge melee on the street 5:47 making a railway wheel 7:25 advertising video of the factory 9:13 making a shaft 11:21 pipe 11:45 making a part
@@maxime121 hahaha google translate makes the Chinese forge part unexpectedly funny🤣🤣 “Chinese forge on the street in hand-to-hand combat” that’s good stuff
I'm impressed with these guys that drive these specialized machines that manipulate the huge hot metal. They become one with the machine. It's merely an extension of their own arm.
@@jonathonvince561 Well, no, the steel has been made. This is about forging it into a product. Forging strengthens steel, eliminates voids and increases the homogeneity of the product, but regardless, this video isn’t about “making” steel.
I stand in both awe and horror. I'm awed by the creativity, intelligence, labour, and skill that went into doing what I saw in this video. Yet I cower in horror when I think of the likely consequences those traits will have on human life and life in general.
Not much.. It will sink deep and all the vapor will condense on the way to the surface. You MAYBE find some unusual warm water on the surface, but that's it.
@@jackmclane1826 If you dropped on the size of a house maybe you’d get a reaction chain of fire and flames in the water. But besides that it would all disappear in less than a minute or so. First the ocean is pretty cool or cold in some areas. Second this is steel and no matter how big the object it still will cool down rather quickly. Poor fishes though
@@spartanalphamode2987 I'd disagree to the cooldown speed. The Leidenfrost effect will cover it in a layer of steam and insulate it for quite a long while. Certainly in the range of several minutes. Of course it depends on how deep the water is, because of the pressure that would hold down the steam.
I have some questions for an expert: What are these crusts that fall off from the hot iron piece when they are put under pressure? Since these crusts are clearly a loss of the production, do they fall into account during the process? And would these fall off endlessly if the pressing process would go on for too long?
The high temperature causes oxygen in the air to join with the steel surface much faster than it would rust the steel at normal temperature. So as the steel cools, the scale forms more slowly. Yes, the loss of scale is small but an expected part of the process. Remember that most forms of iron oxide are many times less dense (take up more space per gram) than iron itself. Usually at least one surface is machined to an exact dimension after forging, sometimes the entire surface of the part is machined, mostly depending on which surfaces touch other parts (but also for cosmetic reasons if a customer can see the surface). So the requirement is to leave enough metal to cut the rough "as-forged" surface away, not to forge it to the exact final dimension ("net-shape").
I do _not_ work at a forge but I _was_ wondering; what is the deal with the stuff that falls off the side of the nugget when it's being squashed? 1:02 🤔
"What is man that thou art mindful of him, or the son of man that thou visits him? Behold he is a little lower than the angels. Thou hast crowned him with honor and glory."
I find it so satisfying watching steel being worked and it really hasn’t changed much if you think about it. Get steel really hot and hit with a hammer…Just a much larger hammer these days lol.
Depends on the wattage needed. The trick with Green Energy is to use it to pump water up hill into a lake and let it out over hydro. $0.03-$0.05 kilowatt.
@@radwizard Fair point - I was involved in pumped hydro storage many years ago. Do-able for domestic, if you have suitable terrain but crikey, for large industrial? - they need to operate 24/7 so that would need a serious solar/wind set-up...
@@bryanreidsands6854 Indeed, I think they make use of geothermal sources in Iceland - but I doubt they'd license a major industrial plant. Incidentally, some recent engineering news states that China is about to commission its first thorium molten salt reactor. Now that really is a game changer. Just a pity the west has sat on that technology for over 50years!!! (I doubt it will get a mention on the MSM)
A lineage of smaller machines going all the way back to the first human who figured out that you if you placed this shiny rock in a fire, it would melt out a substance that was harder than the rock that it came out of and could be shaped into useful things.
God why can't every man or women be blessed to be this intelligent at know-how and getting the math-equations correct probably the 1st time at just exactly the size and shape of molten steel needed to end up with that finished product.... what a great video...
Lucky for Ring Roll Operator gets to sit in an air-conditioned room with computer monitor. The Guy's at LA-Dish have two wheels and 3 pressure gages to look at. Pretty much roll a seemless ring by the feel of it. Awesome video
@@francescopaolociminale5258 Hot forging is sometimes dangerouse, and the large forging in the video is a high－risk industry. But the development of automated machinery can keep workers away from danger.
