Dangerously fake eBay "ioniser" (with dire schematic)

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There are harmless quack products on eBay and then there are fake products that have been deliberately designed from scratch to be deceptive.
The manufacturer of this one clearly has no grasp of electrical theory, and has faked the circuitry so badly that they've ended up referencing the output carbon fibre emitters directly to mains voltage.
Worse still, they've spent so much effort faking the product that they could have built a REAL one for close to the same price.
Thanks to Adi for reminding me that these things exist. I recall coming across one a very long time ago, so there must be a market for them if they are still being sold.
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@LewinEdwards Год назад

Plot twist: This isn't a fake product. Unbeknownst to Big Clive, "designing products to troll Big Clive" is now one of the premier e-sports in Shenzen. This product was made specifically as bait to see how he'd review it.

@agentblueuk Год назад

Well that puts a new twist on bear bating

@collectorguy3919 Год назад

It's a business model. People buy these products specifically because Clive reviewed them and they're so awful they want to tear them down too.

@kobirelf97 Год назад

@@collectorguy3919 👀how did you know what I enjoy doing 🤣

@Jeriun Год назад

Didn't realize "plot twist" was still a thing

@MikehMike01 Год назад

China is laughing at the West all the way to the bank

@wimwiddershins Год назад

Reminds me of a mate at highschool who had elaborate methods of cheating in tests. He could've spent half the effort just learning the stuff.

@Pentti_Hilkuri Год назад

But learning the stuff only helps you with that one specific test. =)

@dogwalker666 Год назад

Kobayashi Maru.

@objection_your_honor Год назад

I was that mate! I built an FM transmitter and receiver in soap boxes. Wore the receiver and fed the earpiece through my shirt and around my ear lobe, covered by my long hair. Sat by the windows and threw my question sheet out the window, and claimed I didn't get one. Meanwhile, two grade 12 friends were outside that picked up the question sheet, and transmitted the answers in to my ear. Grade 10 Geography was never easier. And a hell of a lot of fun to build and mess with.

@bluerizlagirl Год назад

Like Dick Dastardly from Wacky Races -- he is always in the lead by fair means when he begins his elaborate scheme to cheat!

@paulstubbs7678 Год назад

@The Drone Ranger Yeah, making dodgy ioniser's because he never actually got an education.

@gloomyblackfur399 Год назад

It's like that Swees USB adapter you tested. There's so much "all that stands between you and the mains is an 1/8w resistor" or "sub-millimeter separation" in cheap products, it's actually refreshing to see one where there's no separation at all.

@SilvaD702 Год назад

I've wondered if they're acquiring injection molds that once belonged to others (leftovers from r&d, mold errors, unpaid projects, etc) and then try to figure out the cheapest way to stuff some type of semi-working guts into them to give the appearance of a viable product...

@ehsnils Год назад

That's one way to keep down the population of the world.

@IanSlothieRolfe Год назад

I've seen videos of people strolling around the vast Schenzen electronics markets, and there are people selling these "generic" cases and other plastic moldings by the thousand for pennies each. Thats why so many Chinese products look the same but are branded different, and have different internals. I get the impression that if a company comissions molds to make cases for a product, once that order has been fulfilled and the molding looks sellable they just go on making them and sell them on the market to smaller companies looking for a cheap case or mechanism. Copyright in China and across the far east is a somewhat flexible concept.

@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Год назад

@@IanSlothieRolfe As no "copyright laws" exsist in China once someone spends their time and money designing a product others just seem to copy it without the same expense.

@samuelfellows6923 Год назад

And the Chineseum crap factory’s pick up the leftovers and make crap with them and “export only” to the west, and expect us to buy them, and eventually throw in the electronic waste. While managing to fool standards/customs from intercepting and destroying them 😠⚠️

@IanSlothieRolfe Год назад

@@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Oh, if you copied something made by a company run by or that supported the CCP you'd find out about copyright pretty fast....

@mizterwizerd Год назад

When it's sooooo bad that Clive does his best to not giggle like a school child seeing a naughty image badly drawn on the wall, you can not help but giggle right along 🤣

@Daremo6969 Год назад

haha, this is why i watch as well. I have what is best described (and charitably so) a child understanding of electronics but I watch cos I like his personality and way of explaining things. That makes it entertaining for someone like me to watch/listen to.

@jkobain Год назад

@@Daremo6969 for me, childhood means curiosity, confusion and fun. Therefore, Clive's videos bring me a lot of childhood, any day of the year. ^_^

@Daremo6969 Год назад

@@jkobain yeah, as I've passed 50, those memories are long gone (mostly)....I don't even remember that person anymore...

@LtKernelPanic Год назад

It's almost like someone was designing a real product then went aww screw it.

@ftldny Год назад

It's sold under various names at Amazon USA: "Tbh not sure if it even works because I can’t tell the difference. I stopped using it though because it shocked me up my arm." And from a review site: "Customer complaints include receiving mild electric shocks from these units and they may be particularly unsuitable if you have young children or pets in your home."

@Vilvaran Год назад

Nothing more than a mild warning for a device designed to waste poor people's money - and a little bit more! Between these, dangerous diy videos and fake batteries - it seems like there's just too much in common, either someone wants you dead [why?]; or otherwise wants to kill 'the maker' - that undead adage of "don't burn the house down!" gets it's merit from examples set by fools; and these malcreations...

@rjmun580 Год назад

Don't forget that the European supply is nominally 220 volts. Getting a shock at this level is a completely different story to one from a 120 volt system. Mild shocks and 220 volts don't belong in the same sentence

@ftldny Год назад

@@rjmun580 Yes, very good point. The ones on Amazon USA are all 120V of course.

@mernok2001 Год назад

@@rjmun580 200 volts doesnt exist in Europe anymore. Almost all countries standardized 230 V as the nominal voltage in the 1990s.

@SonsOfLorgar Год назад

@@rjmun580 on the other hand, European shoppers at least have the nominal protection of the CE classification system... If they aren't too ignorant to look for it.

@Zanthum Год назад

We need to keep in mind after all that we are talking about people who counterfeit nuts and even eggs. Not edible counterfeit eggs, like egg substitute, just things that look like eggs till you eat them and then you die from ingesting whatever chemicals they were made of.

@bigclivedotcom Год назад

The eggs were made with sodium alginate and a savoury liquid. Probably not harmful, but not good to fry.

@channelsixtysix066 Год назад

Clive, it's about time the company did an upgrade combining all, in a compact, plug-in unit - an ioniser, power saver and pest repellent of all critters. Now that circuit would be worth analysing.

@treborrrrr Год назад

For the people "designing" these things that would just mean putting a different label on the box.

@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Год назад

If they made a real one, I guess it would just be an ioniser and pest repellent, given that the power savers are BS? I could imagine one of those death fan insect trap things that lures them in with pretty lights and sucks them down through a fan. Perhaps a decent corona discharge would attract the bugs while ionising the air (although, of course, then it wouldn't be a 'repellent' but the aim is still 'less bugs')

@channelsixtysix066 Год назад

@@treborrrrr That's an excellent solution. It's cheap, quick and as a result, be put on the market for sale straight away. I recommend you apply for lead designer for label engineering.

@channelsixtysix066 Год назад

@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 The power saver function can be added for free, as part of the device upgrade. The power saved can then be used to power the other functions. Sniffff - Aaahhhh I Love The Smell Of Fried Insects In The Evening.

@mikepembo8297 Год назад

And an ODB2 reader for your house :)

@JohnClulow Год назад

Thank goodness it at least had the CA prop 65 warning label on it.

@waltp3373 Год назад

🤣🤣🤣

@ailivac Год назад

mains voltage: known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects

@azumanga111 Год назад

Never mind that there's no way it could be used in California, due to the plug or the voltage.

@dougbrowning82 Год назад

Apparently, the only concern about these things is a potential risk of cancer and birth defects, and even that is only a concern in the state of California.

@uNiels_Heart 2 месяца назад

@@dougbrowning82 From chemicals, of all things, if I understood it correctly. So maybe you're supposed to eat it rather than plug it in 🤔

@oasntet Год назад

Dire schematics are a bit like normal schematics, only a bit bigger and a bit more savage and primitive in nature.

@Lemon_Inspector Год назад

They get double hit dice and +3 natural armor.

@Ass_of_Amalek Год назад

with a proportionally bigger head

@peterclarke7240 Год назад

They're also fairly easy to tame and can be ridden without a saddle.

@moconnell663 Год назад

I think they've made the pins live intentionally, so that anyone who touches them gets a jolt of high voltage to reinforce that the device actually does something.

@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Год назад

If they're still, you know, alive afterwards

@moconnell663 Год назад

@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 a prickle from a high voltage brush isn't going to harm you much unless you are otherwise grounded. I've gotten a good shock while part of me was grounded, and just a tickle if I wasn't firmly grounded.

@brucepickess8097 Год назад

@@moconnell663 Hi, so you got a 'good ' shock , hmmmmm meaning enjoyable, pleasant, agreeable, pleasing, pleasurable, delightful, great, nice, lovely, amusing, jolly, merry, cheerful, congenial, super, fantastic, fabulous, terrific, glorious, grand wow, how weird are you.⚡⚡😏

@LaterMeansBrick Год назад

Maybe the empty spots for the missing resistors were meant for current limiting just to allow enough electricity trough for a tingle in the initial design but then it would cost additional 2 cents sothey went with full on death ionizer pins.

@arandomcommenter412 Год назад

@@brucepickess8097 Is this a joke or what

@iamdarkyoshi Год назад

Impressive. You should rebuild the unit into a real working ionizer as cheaply as possible just to see what they could have done

@markfergerson2145 Год назад

And then send it to the original manufacturer with a note explaining how they could have made MORE profit using jellybean ionizer and power supply modules instead of their custom designed bogus bullshit.

@TheWebstaff Год назад

After you get it working you could send it back as faulty! 🤣

@Yrouel86 Год назад

It would be just half of that pcb with the LED plus an actual ionizer module, or not even LED but a neon indicator and a ionizer module

@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Год назад

I agree! I'd love to see that video.

@christophergrove4876 Год назад

@@TheWebstaff HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

@kakurerud7516 Год назад

there is a strong possibility that that scam happened earlier on in the parts supply chain. Ive actually ran into one revision of a thing being fake and another being real.

@LatitudeSky Год назад

Scams happen at every level. Component suppliers swap in bogus parts, assembly contractors use child labor, the packaging companies stole the box design and are also selling it to other companies, and the shipping companies are highjacking the product and subbing in a fake. And every step of the way everybody is swearing they are totally in compliance. Eventually you get so much fraud in a product that it loops around and becomes good. This is not one of those.

@rtechlab6254 Год назад

Its a well known trick. We were shipped laptop power supplies to test for one of our suppliers. We tortured and destroyed them and sent back the bits announcing it actually took a fair bit to do, they all failed safe and were pretty good, definitely on a par with the original Delta units. Supplier said thank you, ordered a ton of stock, and then a few weeks later, fores, failures and explosions started. The actual stock was borderline lethal. The Chinese supplier sent initial units for certification and evaluation, then having got the contract, sent worthless junk in the same packing and cases. We checked a couple and it was a horror show

@Broken_Yugo Год назад

@@rtechlab6254 reminds me of the eBay one I bought that spit out so much RFI it made the laptop malfunction, on teardown it looked pretty scary, board went straight to junkbox and I just used the cable to fix the old one.

@jkobain Год назад

When Clive says something is *dangerously fake,* he is all serious about it.

@kay110 Год назад

Its about time ebay did something about these product sellers. I know they won't because the sellers fees are what ebay wants. Somebody is going to die because of these scam units - and ebay don't seem to care.

@antisoda Год назад

Fixing this would either require proper governmental oversight and strong consumer protection, massive lawsuits, or eBay taking its own initiative. Which one of these is more likely to happen, I leave up to the AI. :)

@mernok2001 Год назад

@@antisoda Many people already dies from non isolated USB chargers and notjing changed. And it will get worse as new phones dont come with cargers anymore, most people will buy the cheapest charger they see.

@josedorsaith5261 Год назад

@@antisoda Do you think more legislation would help, when the government just ignores it to keep business ties to China?

@nemo-x Год назад

The fact that they care about it looking real and at the same time connected live to the emitters makes me think it's deliberate to give people a strong albeit likely not lethal shock since a person wouldn't tough all the bristles.

@chri-k Год назад

the best theory i’ve seen is that they tried to make yet another “technically it does make a few ions” ionizer, but themselves got scammed when using third-party components.

@sweetypuss Год назад

@@chri-k when you sleep with dogs, you get fleas. so that makes the most sense

@randacnam7321 Год назад

I would desolder the IC and test it. It may well be that it is a dead factory reject chip that was bought for scrap since it will be used in a useless application anyway. I know there is a substantial market for these nonfunctional ICs, as an electronics class I had in college almost a decade ago had a huge problem with fake 74LS04s, some of which were just resistor network lead frames with no resistors. One even had 16 pins.

@bigclivedotcom Год назад

Apparently they laser mark random chips to order.

@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Год назад

@@bigclivedotcom Really? I knew there were a lot of fake 'basically the same thing' versions of common components out there, but that's pretty bad. Guess I shouldn't put anything past them.

@Broken_Yugo Год назад

@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 I've even heard of nonfunctional TO-92 transistors, either empty or wildly wrong like BJTs marked as JFETs. IIRC the cheap eBay opamps that behave roughly like an opamp are mostly a handful of the same low performance dies put in different packages.

@jkobain Год назад

When YT suggested me some of your videos, I didn't think I'm here to stay. It happened like three or four years ago, I don't even know, but I subscribed after watching several unusually calm, friendly and interesting videos, and I'm happy since then.

@Toca_waffle843 Год назад

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. Or should that be resistors are futile?

@CollectiveSoftware Год назад

That's just *bizarre*. Imagine the factory turning these out

@bigclivedotcom Год назад

It must be a demoralising job potting thousands of fake "things" in resin.

@maxximumb Год назад

@@bigclivedotcom I'd wager the people who actually make the fake potted things have no idea what they are producing. To them it's just another electronics component that gets shipped out to an assembly workshop, where other workers assemble the parts and don't know how it all works.

@IanSlothieRolfe Год назад

Many of these products are assembled by people working at home or with a few people in a shed, then sold to resellers who just want something to ship. They buy cases and parts at the Schenzen markets for pennies and assemble a plausible product. Obviously some don't appear to understand electronics....

@1988dgs Год назад

I imagine it’s like the prison from Andor, people making things they have no idea what they are to be used for

@venenareligioest410 Год назад

For Chinese ‘factory’ or ‘laboratory’ read ‘leaky old shed in a yard’ 😤

@zh84 Год назад

One of the op-amps has its two inputs wired together. If it's a differential amplifier like the 741 I used to play with in school, that would mean the output was permanently nothing. Edit: 6:45 "More components make more realer!" And that's how you design an electrical circuit.

@dj1NM3 Год назад

This kind-of reminds of the "Chinese mystery pistols" that #ForgottenWeapons did some videos and published a book on, where there are fake features which look almost like they were copied by some-one who didn't understand what they did or how they worked, but sort-of cargo-culted a rough ersatz of a half-remembered real device.

@zh84 Год назад

@@dj1NM3 My father the mediaeval historian told me that some European coinages in the Middle Ages copied coin issues from the Islamic world - complete with the inscription saying "There is no god but Allah", which they thought was just a decorative squiggle!

@dj1NM3 Год назад

@@zh84 It's impressive that the copiers didn't even realise that they were copying writing, but did so well that it could be read. The most famous "brand" inscription used on those mystery pistols is "Wauser", sometimes stamped several times in a row.

@zh84 Год назад

@@dj1NM3 As I understand it, the "decorative" inscription got harder to read over time as it came further from the Arabic original.

@JasperJanssen Год назад

It’s *almost* an op amp multivibrator. But not quite.

@trevann8213 Год назад

I like how it feels like the time this went from concept phase to actual production was 30 minutes

@keithlambell1970 Год назад

What an outrageous product. To go to such lengths to make something not only pointless, but dangerous too. I feel sorry for the OpAmp too !

@SeanBZA Год назад

Will say every component on the main board is likely a recycled one, whatever was cheapest on the market that day, and was bought by the kilogram for use. The only part that was critical was the resistors for the LED's, those probably bome from a bin of selected value resistors not to blow up the LED's, and then the rest are potluck. Seems that day they had a lot of 120k resistors going cheap, and any 8 pin IC was used, solder blob by accident, because the internal diode will conduct anyway. Ioniser module DIY, because that was 3c cheaper than buying a real one, and possibly they also have a market selling the real items, and put fakes in some deliveries to improve profit margin, putting the fakes in the loads to the drop reshippers, who also do not care.

@antisoda Год назад

Yep. This.

@ChindoCaine Год назад

That's a million dollar idea right there - a 3-in-1 power-saving, insect-repelling ionizer device! You should get that patented! 😂 Shaking my head about this thing though. I mean it's one thing to just sell an "ionizer" that has nothing inside but a few blinking LEDs, but going to the lengths of designing a circuit board and a potted module that both look very important to average Joe but have absolutely no function (and can by mistake even shock you) - wow. Wouldn't be surprised if it was actually slightly more expensive to design this useless thing than putting together a real functioning device out of existing components.

@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Год назад

It may be the manufacturer of dodgy goods got duped by another manufacturer of dodgy components. After all they arent going to do any batch testing of the product ato see if it works.

@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Год назад

@@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse That's true... might be a case of the Chinese Chinesing the Chinese

@bbgun061 Год назад

I don't understand why they would put extra components to make it appear functional. Anyone who does open it up is going to figure out it's fake. Someone who knows nothing about electronics isn't going to open it in the first place...

@LRM12o8 Год назад

A shocking new innovation! 🤣

@phils4634 Год назад

That's not just an ioniser, Mate! It's a very "multifunctional device" that also doubles up as a contact rodent killer too! 🙂

@simontay4851 Год назад

Contact human killer too.

@joeb3300 Год назад

@@simontay4851 I was about to say, in the US (probably GB too) outlets are mostly run along the bottom 16" of the wall. This would be perfectly located for an infant to come into contact with the live voltage.

@johnwalton5576 Год назад

"It's you that will be ionized" LOL!! I laughed my ass off when you said that Clive!

@Random-re5fc Год назад

Hay Clive, I would love to see some fake gas/ carbon monoxide detectors. I am sure you would be able to fine some on eBay. It would be interesting to see how bad they are and dangerous they are.

@NinoJoel Год назад

I bought some Jumper cables for a car and was wondering wy they did not work. I cut the thick wire and it was 90% insulation and something like 0.75mm copper. The packaging was nice and the clamps as well. They stated it would start a V8 xD

@Halfpipesaur Год назад

Some Chinese engineer made an error in unit conversion and accidentally designed jumper cables for 12kV car batteries XD

@NinoJoel Год назад

@@Halfpipesaur yea i was thinking of using it AS spark plug wire but I'm not brave enough to trust the unmarked isulation 💀

@bromisovalum8417 Год назад

I think there are certain people over there that really enjoy making bogus electronic products. It must take some dedication.

@IntegerOfDoom Год назад

When you live in a cheap electronics factory what else are you gonna do on your free time?

@Zerbey Год назад

I just love how much fun you're having pulling this apart, but yeah glad you're putting the word out there that such dangerous things exist!

@Shady97342 Год назад

I'd pay so much money to see some sort of series where Clive got a chance to interview the "engineers" who designed all the circuits in these scam products. Would they try to defend their schematics? I wonder what they'd say. I'm sure it'd be hilarious.

@brucepickess8097 Год назад

Hello Big Clive, the teardown you did survive, from the unit being live, it had components more than five, glad you're still alive, unfortunatly manufacturers of fakes like these will still thrive.⚡🤨⚡🇨🇳👎

@johns1625 Год назад

Man I really love these cheap and dangerous electronics teardowns you do. Thank you for doing these! The "electronic kettle" you got a long time ago will always be on my mind. It's just two leads directly into water, with a plastic case 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@petersshabbygarage396 Год назад

show link

@bigclivedotcom Год назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k-HommnQ2_s.html

@theviewer7262 Год назад

Lol

@johns1625 Год назад

@@bigclivedotcom Yes that's the one!!! Lmao

@Lumibear. Год назад

I wonder at times if some of these are just deliberately made to mess with the west, the things I’ve seen on aliexpress from the less scrupulous sellers raise many questions.

@haywoodyoudome Год назад

More like they have no clue how things work and just make copies with whatever parts are on hand.

@gcewing Год назад

The eco-friendly-looking logo is there because their mission is to save the planet by eliminating humans from it.

@thevaf2825 Год назад

This looks like as if they have a single "engineer" or outsourced to someone through one of those online outsourcing services, and the "engineer" threw this in their direction and they didn't even check it before rolling out to production.

@der.Schtefan Год назад

This looks like somebody got tasked to do this, had no idea how to do this, just looked at some other version looked like and just added a lot of confusing components to "make the boss happy".

@tactileslut Год назад

Two steps closer to right would have been yet more dangerous with both live and neutral passed to the front with a miswired op amp as an explosive nod toward a fusible link.

@MAGAMAN Год назад

Companies like Amazon and Ebay that sell this stuff need to be held legally and financially accountable.

@Morbazan125 Год назад

I really hate we live in a world where scamming is so prevalent😒 I know for some, they feel its their only option but there's too many who could be making decent products but don't.

@NielMalan Год назад

This makes me wonder if it's not the manufacturer/assembler getting scammed by their PCB supplier.

@xXRenaxChanXx Год назад

The scary thing is these scams aren't limited to eBay. I've seen this crap on Amazon too.

@TheUnknownCatWarrior Год назад

They tried to give the impression that its a real ionizer. Clive should rebuild the scam ionizer without the useless parts into a working one and see how they could of done better.

@rayoflight62 Год назад

The power pins of the dual operational amplifier are shorted. Truly perplexing, because somebody with design experience made this "device" intentionally, as a bet on the public not able to identify the entire device is a scam... Strange world we live in - with the help of eBay...

@HotelPapa100 Год назад

I love that you publish this indictment that eBay is prone to harbor scammers on YT, who insist on bombarding me with ads of similar, if usually more expensive scams...

@gregorythomas333 Год назад

Any product that gets the Big Clive Giggle has got to be one of the worst ones on the entire planet...definitely not disappointed with this one...so bad it's good :D

@andydelarue9344 Год назад

This is bizarre and dangerous, I wonder if eBay is libel in anyway, and the 65 warning sticker means it’s sold to the states, so it might take a law suit to give us a answer

@paulkile9998 Год назад

I find it hilarious that they went to the trouble of sticking on a California Prop 65 warning on a device with a UK plug that won't work anywhere here in California!

@toine512fr Год назад

DeathDapter seal of approval.

@dixieduffy7 Год назад

Ah my favorite small appliance disassembeler who only posts at 1 am

@Cornz38 Год назад

The biggest "shock" is Ebay and it's continued propensity to turning a blind eye to shoddy and dangerous products.

@BM-jy6cb Год назад

I don't know why people still use such old-fashioned ways to bump people off when you can just send them a gift from eBay.

@olsmokey Год назад

You might find it's easier removing hot melt glue if you spray it with isoprop alcohol. It works it's way into the joint and breaks down the bond.

@Aco747lyte Год назад

It makes me wonder what kind of people they are for making such a dangerous scam product. (I have a particularly nasty word for them). BIG thank you for Clive for warning us, plus his usual glee. See you later tonight, homies! Wendi

@jhoughjr1 Год назад

the ppl assembling them probably have no idea.

@dcallan812 Год назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thats SHOCKING literally. Well you got a nice case and 4 nice carbon emitters, you just need to fill the circuitry part yourself. Thanks for getting this so we don't need too. 2x. 👍👍

@TheSynrgy1987 Год назад

Maybe they have a scam product competition, whoever can make the best looking product that does absolutely nothing gets an award.

@skellious Год назад

It's like someone asked an GAN/AI art program to design an ioniser schematic. It looks plausible at first but once opened it all falls apart.

@barrieshepherd7694 Год назад

Those emitters put a new meaning on the term "Black Death"

@asteroidrules Год назад

This is the type of thing that makes you wonder how deep the scam goes. Do the people who put this whole thing together know it doesn't do anything? Do the people who made and potted the useless module? Is it even a deliberate scam or just a chain of compounded incompetence?

@IanSlothieRolfe Год назад

Its possible the people that assembled it bought fake modules and never bothered to test the ones supplied to the assemblers. Perhaps they even bought the PCB assembled and since the LEDs came on they assumed everything else was OK. When it comes down to it they only really care about getting the bits in the case and the product in the cardboard box for the guy selling it on.

@asteroidrules Год назад

@@IanSlothieRolfe There's also a chance that the boards were reverse engineered from another product, and either the people doing that reverse engineering didn't understand what they were doing, or the soirce material itself was nonfunctional.

@IanSlothieRolfe Год назад

@@asteroidrules True, but that sounds like unnecessary effort if you're just trying to make boxes for export :)

@rimmersbryggeri Год назад

This is a great opportunity for a project.MAke it a proper ioniser.

@michaelosmon Год назад

Unrelated to this video, thank you for showing me how to use free batteries from the trash to power things. I made a marble machine with a rechargeable power source quite easily from your instructions. Thank you again

@TheBypasser Год назад

You are so brave to start dismantling those things right off! Who knows what is inside, a charged cap, a red-hot resistor, a seized relay that triggers the moment you shake it and blows some IC to bits using the aforementioned cap... Really a work of courage :)

@confusedkemono Год назад

In case of charged cap hazard he usually just does the finger test :P

@TheBypasser Год назад

@@confusedkemono Well, I'm kinda jumpy when things come down to counterfeit electronics. Own experience: a weird malfunction of own devices, unable to communicate yet seem to power up and work. Checked the crystals first, all marked as 14-something, just as needed. Breaking the thrill though, those still indeed were the crystals, as what frequency do the 14-something (forgot the value) MHz ones resonate at? 13.56 of course (well, at least judging by those we got here) :P. And those were not even counterfeit, just a factory issue. Could cost a lot of time and a broken deadline. Truly counterfeit is much worse, say I had a car fan that nearly set itself on fire (the resistor shined like a bulb). Or a (non) "Vago" connector that burned down from half of it's rated current. Or a few mains extension cords that burned too.

@leongyokeloong5083 2 месяца назад

Thanks Big Clive for providing us with a schematic diagram.

@KeritechElectronics Год назад

Yeah, the Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot ionizer. That's the worst case of bovine excrement I've ever seen!

@samuelfellows6923 Год назад

😁

@LTDunltd Год назад

Reminds me of the, "This item is free. You just pay shipping and handling. " Item is made cheaper than what you pay.

@2smoker64 Год назад

I recently purchased a 12v cigarette plug usb car charger with integrated "volt meter" on ebay only to descover the voltmeter was simply a dedicated 12.5 led display. Not volts mind you, just the number 12.5.

@bigclivedotcom Год назад

Yeah, I have one here.

@Gengh13 Год назад

They could have put the leds in anti-parallel and could have removed the diode and 1 resistor.

@Toca_waffle843 Год назад

I'm amazed at myself for understanding your suggestion, seems like I'm osmotically gaining an understanding of electronics. Thanks

@andygozzo72 Год назад

@Genghisnico yep, thats what i'd have done

@dj1NM3 Год назад

I'm surprised that those carbon brush emitters are real and that there was even a circuit board under the potting, that there were *any* electronic components other than the diode and resistors to light the LEDs. My first guess would have been that the carbon brush emitters were just knotted, hot-snotted in into the box and then potted, but that there was continuity to the live pin is just weird. It seems that just about as much manual labour (which would be the expensive part) went into this as would go into constructing real ioniser units

@antisoda Год назад

If you have a bunch of surplus parts from (perhaps genuine) production runs, plus faulty parts or parts from different products, why _not_ slap them all together and sell them on the side? ;)

@InceRumul Год назад

Thank goodness for that Prop 65 warning. I'd hate to risk developing cancer during my electrocution.

@UhrwerkKlockwerx Год назад

That schematic looks like whoever designed that device had no idea what they were doing.

@ksbs2036 Год назад

Oh gawd, LOL! I really needed this. Clive you are a treasure. I will never be able to repay you for the glimpses of joy you bring into my life. Thank you my wonderful friend that I have never met

@21palica Год назад

A truly shocking gadget. It can save you a lot of money on food, water and electricity bills etc. because you don't need those when you're dead!

@confusedkemono Год назад

Funerals arent cheap!

@21palica Год назад

@@confusedkemono Not for the one being buried. 😁

@Bareego Год назад

Not even a capacitive dropper.... OMG.... just wow. Surely this is the king of suicidal death plugs

@dollarama8652 Год назад

Every time Big C says "Scam" take a shot... 😵🥛

@antisoda Год назад

This drinking game is potentially deadlier than the scam products themselves. 🥴🙂

@simonmitchell34 Год назад

I guess the idea is that when you touch the ioniser and get a belt then it confirms it is doing something.

@endleontiozae7061 Год назад

Thats the first time ive seen you genuinely laugh at something, it was a nice moment.

@godslaughter Год назад

That badly soldered resistor is causing me physical pain

@E-BikingAdventures Год назад

A 4558, some diodes and a nice case. You can make that into a classic Boss overdrive or Ibanez tube screamer.

@MrDeVooluff Год назад

This reminds me of a Geoclense 'Home and Workplace Harmonizer' I had to buy for a client once... I'm pretty sure that was just a mains plug and potting, so at least it was safe (at ~$200AUD, safe for everything except the bank account). I've asked her to give it to me if it ever stops 'working' so I can investigate how it 'works'. :)

@bigclivedotcom Год назад

Yeah, those things that filter dirty electricity are often just a resin block.

@TransistorBased Год назад

I really don't know most of what you're talking about. But these videos are definitely still interesting

@shaunclarke94 Год назад

Imagine being that bad at product design you couldn't even design a product that literally needed to do nothing.

@foogod4237 Год назад

It doesn't need a solder bridge across the chip. The diode up at the top of the diagram connects everything (half-wave rectified) to live anyway. Though I wouldn't be surprised if those op-amp ICs were actually bad to begin with too. This really feels like somebody had some bins full of fake/faulty components lying around that they were trying to get rid of, and just decided to throw them all into this "circuit" so they could make some money off of otherwise useless components... All they had to do was not actually connect the first half of the circuit to the second half, and it at least wouldn't have been outright hazardous.

@phydeux Год назад

The irony of a California Prop 65 warning sticker on a 240V UK plugged item that couldn't be used in California if you wanted to. Hey Clive, when you see these truly dangerous items (plastered in regulatory stamps to boot!) do you ever report them to the authorities so they can maybe clamp down on them?

@bigclivedotcom Год назад

What authorities......

@Norman_Fleming Год назад

When you work harder making a crap version than a real one would take. Excellent.

@thomasvlaskampiii6850 Год назад

That looks like something someone put together as an experiment when they were 13 years old and didn't know any better

@kimsleep4111 Год назад

I can imagine the email from the manufacturers to its parts suppliers" what do you have in the way of DEAD, NON-FUNCTIONAL 8 PIN CHIPS??". Why populate a board just for "Looks", then mount it face down??

@kennethjanczak4900 Год назад

absolutly amasing that this product got out on the market, amasing that no one said.... HAY, something is wrong her, its absolutly lethal.... but thanks for taking the time to make the video and share it.

@simonbeasley989 Год назад

That's unbelievable! The effort they went to!

@tncorgi92 Год назад

It's like it was built by someone who can solder but doesn't know what any of the components do.

@kennethevoy Год назад

I have a North American version of this one. Mine was also random components but it had a real rectifier! I gutted it and replaced it with a new potted module and circuitry from ebay.

@smithaustin2009 Год назад

A California Prop. 65 warning on a product with a UK plug? The first of many oddities I expect to encounter as I continue watching.

@heyarno Год назад

Reading the title I wondered if it's a typo on wire or if the schematic is worthy to be called dire. The product doesn't disappoint. It's worthy of the title.

@bigclivedotcom Год назад

No typo. The schematic looks dire because it is so wrong in every way.

@reggiep75 Год назад

There's a dark art in making scammy products. Some of these products need a Big Clive rating 😂👍

@fazergazer Год назад

I’m pretty sure some of the other folks in comments might be on to something: someone acquired a bunch of bits from other manufacturers, and asked “how can we use this parts to make something we can sell”. Explains the case/logo. I once made a “laser” complete with backpack “power supply” and “ray gun assembly” and a lens from a telescope. Very convincing prop. I was in junior high and a wee tyke.

@syntaxerror9994 Год назад

Maybe they wanted to make a legit ionizer but got scammed by shady parts suppliers?

@tsm688 Год назад

the temptation must be high when 99% of customers would never know the difference.

@BjornV78 Год назад

The Zapper 3000, like seen on TV :-) The ideal christmas gift for your mother-in-law

@soundspark Год назад

I bought a fake ionizer off Amazon, and did a teardown. I posted a reverse engineered schmatic in an Amazon review and my review got taken down. They did end up giving me a full refund in exchange for returning it. And they still sell the fraudulent product. The PCB looks just like the one I got.