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Could get a Seiko 5 GMT and enough change left over for a G Shock with a tough solar module and multi band 6 timekeeping. Two watches that would last a lifetime.
@@NajCarnage What for? I do not think, that he wears these crappy watches on his wrist. And keeping them just for future reference is pointless IMO. He can just reuse video clips shot before and thus bring us 'new' content.
It’s revolting how companies such as DW exploit people’s ignorance with junk like this. Thanks for the vid, brilliant as always and Happy New Year to you!
My initial thought to your comment was that you were being a bit harsh, but on second thoughts you’re right, at that price they should carry out due diligence before buying and hopefully come across Bens Watch Club!
@@rr40v8 If people are dumb enough to buy them then that's tough and a reflection on their stupidity. Rolex are no different, they just operate at a different price point.
But Ben, they invented a movement that is powered by the motion of your wrist! I've never seen anything like it. That's gotta be worth at least $1000 and they're selling it for half.
Yeah cheap fashion watches you can get on amazon or aliexpress are at least honest with there price. i don't know how DW comes up with a price like that.
@@aaawwweeee the company aims towards non watch people who want something "fashionable", let alone all that horology nuances that they wouldn't know of
It’s kind of why I’m glad these channels are around. I bought myself a Tissot PRX automatic a few days ago and probably wouldn’t have known the obvious quality differences without it
when I didn't know better I actually bought one of DW just because a friend of mine has two and I really liked the slim case. after spending 180$ on it, after few years I got more into watches and now I still have it as a reminder to think twice and do some proper research before buying some crap.
I just said the samw thing!!! Have yours stopped working? Mine did, but it works again. I just wound it to the right time and it started working again.
I bought a Seiko Alpinist 1959 Re-Interpretation in grey dial yesterday. I was resizing the bracelet this morning and for a second I almost had a buyer's remorse (not really). After seeing this video I'm very happy with my Seiko especially when considering I paid 459€ for it.😀
Now we have to wait for Ben to look at Vincero’s newer automatics. Preferably the Argo, given it’s a popular model. It’s a similar price point, but at least they opt for a 9015 instead of an 8215.
I'll opt for the Seiko 5 GMT, Presage Cocktail Time or Turtle at this price point, thank you very much. Or a Citizen Promaster Tough Ray Mears, or a nice Eco Drive diver. Any Zelos, Phoibos or Boldr. Or any Timex. Or a PRX Quartz. Or a Certina DS2 diver. A Hamilton Khaki Field. Some nice Bulovas available for this price. Damn, there are plenty of options if you sit down to think of them!
Yep. 500 is a price point where you can still get a huge amount of value. One of the really premium Prospex divers like the King Turtle or the King Samurai can be had for 500. You could buy the new 38mm Bambino, the Kamasu and have enough change left over a pretty amazing G Shock for 500.
I wonder if MVMT, DW, Fillipo Loretti, etc. have an internal metric to gauge how much their sales go down and how much money they lose after Ben’s watch club put’a out a video about their watch
I’m amazed by how little thought seems to have gone into the design of this watch. The dial, hands, markers and even logo are completely uninspiring. I think the font they use for their logo might actually be Times New Roman 😅. The case and movement are also likely some of the worst you can get for the price. However, I think the inoffensive aesthetic will help them sell more of these watches. I don’t think it’ll be a commercial flop.
And even the similarly priced Vincero Argo wasn’t as bad. And that actually used a movement more acceptable at its current price point (and even before it went upmarket and upgraded the packaging).
I bought a scratchless second hand DW for a cousin on his birthday @ ~30% sticker price, after I noticed he was using that same model as his phone wallpaper. Dude actually loves the brand because of all the Influencers. 🤷♂️
Once again, DW lost me at "Hello." "Iconic" is the most overused, meaningless phrase since "old school." Here's a word for everybody: "thesaurus"! Another great video. You're a public service.
For that price i could get a titanium eco drive, an orient bambino and a vostok amphibia with enough change for a g-shock. That's a whole watch collection right there
I got a Certina DS Podium Automatic (Powermatic 80) for less than that (it was on sale but still). It's a really nice 38mm perfect for a daily beater or frankly anything. And it's a swiss brand. Money well spent if you ask me
Great video, Ben. You took one for the team when you bought this watch. On a separate note, I think DW is making a big mistake. According to Forbes, MVMT was sold to Movado in exchange for $200 million. MVMT was sold when the hype was high. DW should do that soon or the window will close.
The fact that they EVEN BOTHERED to copy Rolex' date window magnifier is absolutely hilarious. I mean DW, seriously? xDD I think they secretly are aware of the meme department they ACTUALLY are. So they cranked up a bit on the meme meter. Maybe as a response to AlphaM's "MVMT being better than Rolex".
Community question: how do you respond when someone shares their excitement over a new scam watch like DW or MVMT? I have this happen occasionally when looking at a friends watch and I usually just say “that’s a good fit for you” or some other avoidance. Thanks!
Who cares if the person wears a watch you don't like? My feelings on the matter are if the person likes the watch and is okay with what they paid for it I'm really happy for them. I'll tell them I think it's really cool they're wearing a watch and share in their excitement. Sometimes if I'm really close with the person I'll wait for their next birthday or Christmas and buy them a nice watch with the same design language as the watch they showed me
Love your vids Ben 💚 Would love to know your take on the new Casioak series (the solar ones) and please consider making videos on Flieger watches just like the one you did on field watches.
The thumbnail pic says it all 😂 I can’t believe they had the cheek to do this. I literally just picked up a AUD$390 Seiko Presage in the Boxing Day sales 😭
I mean, I saw a Le Locle with literally the same price with leather strap here in Spain. It just amazes me how you can sell this under 100$ Aliexpress piece at the same price of one of the best dress watches on the affordable market without even producing your own movements.
The company is going in the same direction as the “D” in their logo. Backwards. Hard to do when you’re swimming at the bottom of the barrel but they did it!
A local shop had one with a Tiffany blue dial, I almost pulled the trigger, but I really couldn’t justify a non hacking, no manual winding movement at that price. I bought a Tiffany blue Casio to scratch that itch lmao
I recently bought a pilot watch from Aliexpress which has the Seiko NH35 movement, sapphire crystal for just $58 including shipping. I'm wearing it right now and I can safely say it also looks miles better than this POC.
The price would have been forgivable if the styling had been something really unique and if they had at least decorated the rotor a bit. Invicta put out better for much less.
I've gotten a lot of adds recently about a "minimalist" fashion watch that looks similar to mvmt but it's called mnmal 😐 ... Have you heard about this?
I showed my family this video. They're not into watches and didn't get it - Until I told them that a preowned Omega Geneve starts at 600$, and a preowned Rolex starts at 3000$. What non-watch enthusiast need is perspective. Spending 5000$ on a watch you'll wear for 10 years is equivalent to buying a coffee at work every day.
all your videos about DW made me appreciate first and only automatic watch which is SNKL45 more and more... Even my for the quartz version I will still pick my 35 usd Alba watch..
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw a Daniel Wellington store in Dubai mall, for anyone who doesn't know Dubai mall is the most fancy and lavish shopping mall ever and these scammers actually have a store in there, shocking
I've just check Daniel Wellington and MVMT on their local online store in my country, and holy heck they're selling them for the same price as Casio Edifice and G-shock watches; but unlike buying an Edifice and a G-shock wherein you get proven high-quality steel or resin material, a myriad of utility and features, solar-powered, a 100m or 200m water-resistance; all you get with a DW and MVMT is a thin watch with a "minimalist" design(translation in the design industry: ultimate profit margin but dumb people will think its trendy), 3 ATM which just means "splash-proof and rain-resistance"(I don't think it's even something they should put on their product at all) and a marketing spiel about cutting the middleman which is dumb because Casio is selling cheaper watches with million times better quality despite having a ton load of middlemen.
That's an understatement. Seiko 5's might only come with workhorse movements but they are decent ones and their styling is better. Maybe the DW beats the seiko in the bracelet but for the price difference you can always upgrade the bracelet on the seiko.
Gotta smile at this one, DW has finally broken into the auto watch market because (you know) the fact that their previous models were quartz was the problem.🤨
I was abhored with brands like DW and MVMT so I decided to make my own with a swiss movement with much fancier look and sturdier build quality for less price. I even tested the prototype watch for 4 years now and it's going strong :)
For as little as £100 more, you could buy a vintage 1960's Omega Geneve. A watch with both good looks and an arguably iconic movement, the '565'. You could even snap up the Seiko speedtimer, a watch that is far more complex, reliable and would last a lot longer.
You can get plenty of quality vintage watches for that price - heck, you can get second hand 21st century Tissots and even Longines at around the asking price for this DW. I can't see why anyone would buy this tat.
Thing I don't get is why don't they respect themselves , I'd never start a brand like that but even if I did , got that successful I'd at least offer one model that could bring up the reputation of the brand , like one watch that would offer so much value that even brand haters (or all of us who dont like crap) would love, people literally will give ass to get a few bucks...
for everyone thinking of getting this, they rather should get the slightly more expensive (~800) Tissot Gentleman Powermatic 80 or so, which actually is worth it’s asking price and you won‘t be laughed at
I bought a DW here in Spain. Didnt know anything about them. I paid 159 for mine, but it stopped working. I wound it to the right time and it works again. I was going to take it back, but ill use it as a lesson to myself to do a little research before i buy. Now i have a bulova precisionist on the way to my house so itll be there when i get back from shitty europe.
Just get a seiko 5 srpd instead for 250$ or if u want u can also get the seiko 5 GMT for 400$ . Both amazing. In-house 4r36/NH36 movement with hacking . Can't get a better quality in this price
When I first saw that thing, I thought "why not just by a much better Seiko 5?". Which you mentioned! Just a rubbish overpriced watch that doesn't look good at all.
The Miyota 8315 costs a bit more, but it is decorated, and offers a 60 hour Power Reserve. Unfortunately, the 8315 is only marginally less expensive than the 9015. While you give some love to the bracelet, the gaps between the links seem quite large. It looks like a $20 bracelet, at best. To ask this kind of money, the DW needed a Miyota 9 Series, and the much thinner case that movement would permit. This new DW automatic seems to combine Meh, with WTF.
Founder of DW bought Swedens most expensive apartment for 10 million dollars some years back, thats the thing that happens when you have healthy margins. However now its not going so good any more and i dont think this will be a big seller you can just congratulate the dude he exploited a part of the market in perfect timing
....i've seen far worse looking watches. this one is overpriced for what you're getting. at half the price it would be, "expensive" but off the rip off radar. that's the only real problem i see with it. one could argue it's actually a better value than an $8K rolex selling at three times retail. good review, i've subscribed.
For almost the same price you could get a Seiko Alpinist or Seiko Solar Speedtimer. Both of which are much better watches. If you want a watch with the same look as this DW just spend slightly more and get the Tissot Gentlemen. At least with the Tissot you get the Powermatic 80 movement and not this low end Miyota movement.
LoL , the case is so brutally angular and unrefined, it looks like the high polygon model failed to load in in time, so we're looking at the low poly stand-in.
Not sure who the target market is? DWs seem to be aimed at people who are new to watches or who are just after the aesthetic? Why would that market care if the movement was automatic or quartz?
Looks like their attempt at a Datejust to me. You could probably buy a reasonable quality fake (if that's your taste) for less. Sad that so many people get taken before someone like Ben puts them straight.
The movement in this watch is not garbage. I think that for this type of watch, it even is the correct movement. Yes, the rotor only winds in one direction (thus the loud noise in the other direction) and the seconds hand is indirectly driven (thus the stuttering) but it keeps good time (most of them around +10s or less per day). Additionally, they are workhorse movements that work for a long time without the need for a service.
The movement in this horrible looking watch, though old and outdated, is actually a reliable one ! A bit like the old 7S26 from Seiko. But whole heartedly agree that instead of £459 it should be about £159. Rip off with a capital R.
