$300 MVMT vs $80 ALIEXPRESS Watch - Is This For Real?!! 

“Cutting out the middleman yourself.“ That’s quite the burn against MVMT’s marketing

The Saphire crystal alone swings it for the Cadisen.

So for 200 pound you buy a brushed case and a logo. And its a logo that doesn't even garner respect or prestige. Absolutely hilarious

I can't believe I used to actually want a MVMT watch... thank goodness now I am more informed

"as useful as an inflatable dartboard" I haven't heard that one before. I like it!

As someone who is in the watch repair business, I called MVMT out in the beginning. 99% marketing company/1% watch company. But, today it seems like the market is being flooded with these brands popping up everywhere! Make it stop.

Just confirming what we all knew, MVMT are throwing their logo on cheap Chinese watches and increasing the price! Love the Cadisen, bargain for the price and would much prefer to have that on wrist than MVMT.

Cadisen is a pretty high quality watch brand. Good materials, nice designs. Unlike MVMT, which frankly sets its prices at insulting levels. Another great, informative and thorough review. Cheers for the content.

I like how there's a display back for showing off that generic $10 miyota movement

Almost die laughing when I read what the discount code was for MVMT watch!! bravo!!!

lol the hands not having lume while the dial does is freaking hilarious. they're a little confused but they've got the spirit!

MVMT = Garbage (naturally) Cadisen = Cool

Thank you for taking down these pop up low quality watch companies and supporting higher quality sometimes less known brands You saved me a lot of money by making me get a pagani design chronograph instead of a vincero

That lumed dial but no lumed hand got me rolling lol

It will always be funny to me that you can spend $12 on a casio and have far more street cred than a MVMT will ever have.

MVMT: "You took _EVERYTHING_ from me!" Cadisen: _"I don't even know who you are..."_ Imagine if Cadisen lumed the hands rather than the hour indicators.

Caddisen wins: Sapphire Better legibility Less expensive The MVMT is too expensive for the low quality.

Buying the Cadisen leaves enough change to buy an Nvidia Shield Pro on which to stream excellent content such as this pointing out the ridiculous mark up on fashion brand watches made in China.

I own a cadisen, using everyday for a year. This thing is fucking great. Paid 30$ for a c1032, it has nh36a movement, Saphire crystal, solid and well built casing, came in a nice bracelet... It was a steal

The Cadison packaging is almost identical to usual MVMT packaging

I have a cadisen automatic mechanical on the way and am looking forward to receiving it. I have a number of Chinese watches that I bought off of AliExpress and I am happy with all of them.

Mineral at that price? Mvmt have some balls! Great review Ben 👍

I've bought a couple of cadisens from Ali express there always excellent value and quality for the price

Great video, Ben! Just FYI the scalloped texture on the movement in the MVMT is called "Geneva Stripes".

What really blows my head off is how MVMT markers itself as selling you a watch at very fair price, cutting out the middleman. WTF.

Great review, as usual. The Cadisen gets my vote, especially the black hands.

"... a certain RU-vidr who sold his soul..." All of us know who he is 😸

Hi,Ben. I'd go for the cadisen all day long. Same movement so really is a no brainer . Keep well my friend 😉😺

Currently considering to get that Cadisen, thanks for briefly information. Got my subscription 👍👍👍

Cadisen are a great watch brand, going to be reviewing one on my channel soon! Excellent value for money

Great video, and great comparison video that I think will really help to inform! Keep it up!

These two college kids bamboozled everyone who bought their watches.

They both look great. But I would take the Cadisen because it's got the better glass. I'd even spend the 45-60 on an 821A movement to fire into it to make it perfect, and still get a ~150 dollar discount. And at this point, I would even pay EXTRA money to avoid the MVMT logo.

I would love to see brands like Rotary or Sekonda reviewed. I always see them in a jelwellery shop window but rarely see them on RU-vid wristwatch channels.

when your friend copies your assignment. Or maybe in this case, you make assignments for your friends.

Lmaoooo the Paul Pluta scene at the end was hilarious 😆🤣

Thank u 4 the review

Ben, you have a really good attitude and your videos are informative and fun to watch, so it pains me to see that you have so few subscribers. I would recommend you do a collaboration with some more prominent watch review channels like for instance Teddy Baldassarre, i think that would boost your views tremendously, because you certainly deserve it. Keep on the good work!

The Cadisen all day long,plus i'd say its a looks better finished & prefer the hand set.nice n thorough review ben,well done on the research .

I'm wearing a Cadisen watch as I watch this video. Mine is a C5051M, which has an all Tungsten Carbide case and strap, with a sapphire crystal. This model has a quartz movement, so it's only 8mm thick. Between the tungsten and sapphire construction, this watch is super scratch resistant, an was an incredible bargain at only $30, from the Cadisen store on AliExpress. You really can't beat some of these Chinese, "mushroom brands" for value. Cadisen sells a number of interesting models, including one with a Miyota 9015 movement, for around $100, during one of the major sales on AliExpress.

just ordered a grand seiko sbgx265, cant wait for it arrive!

Thank you, I was interesed in your opinion about the MVMT Arc Auto

Love the videos! What are you wearing on this video? It looks great

👍🏻 great video mate 😁

This video earned my subscription.

Somehow the Cadisen has better attention to detail. > The little chrome rings around the lume pips. > The winding stem > The finish of the case. (The MVMT is just bead-blasted. They just do that to hide sins.) > The finish of the hands > The little detail around the date window. Honestly I already have two Bambino's so the MVMT would just feel like a copy. The Cadisen looks more appealing.

I recommend reviewing steeldive 1954. Awesome watch can't find many flaws except the cheap bracelet, but can't complain for the price.

I will say that while the mvmt version probably hit the international market first, the cadisen was probably around for longer, and was the base model used for mvmt to "design" their watch off of, which most likely uses the same case (of course with different finishing, which would esplain the slightly smaller dimensions, if it was further machined and made to be a matte finish) and the crystal being different, etc is all "standard" options for when a company approaches a chinese manufacturer to produce their products. They submit a design and the chinese company goes through their already established designs for a similar "skeleton" ot start on, OR, the company picks a preexisting design, then submits the changes they want, and the factory modifies their tooling to make the new product, and a minimum order is decided upon, payment is made, and they go to work. The Cadisen is the "base" watch that the factory used to make the mvmt watch from. This happens all the time with COUNTLESS products from guitars and drums to disposable razors. I know this because I have ran a business at one point where chinese manufacturing was a possibility, and that is exactly how they appraoched my needs. I said "I need this product made to these specs" and they said "oh great, we have 5 products that meet those basic specs, pick the one you like the best and tell us what changes you want made. We can change XX, YY, and ZZ, with no additional cost and can put whatever logo you want on the item. For an additional tooling fee we can change XXX, YYY, or ZZZ. Let us know what changes you would like made and we will quote you a lead time" That's why these watches are so similar, and its not because cadisen copied mvmt. Its because mvmt bought the manufacturing modifications to turn the cadisen that already existed into the mvmt. And this Cadisen may not have even had a name at the time mvmt bought the modifications and commisioned the factory to make the arc, AND, it could have also been released under countless different names prior to mvmt under different asian brands in the asian market. Who knows. But I do absolutely know that this is how chinese manufacturing works when it comes to making other company products. They will literally pull something directly out of their factories that they've already made with established tooling that meets the basic initial specs of the company's request, offer it, and make the appropriate changes in order to make it brand specific for the company ordering it. IN this way, most of the "work" is already done. In the subject of watches, for example, the basic case design is already done, the basic movement choice(s) have already been made and the case will readily accept them, the hands, dial ornaments, etc have already been nanufactured, etc etc, all that's left is MINOR things like the finish of the case and the final dimensions, the type of crystal, and what logo/name brand gets stamped on the thing. They can even retrofit a lot of watches that have already been manufactured, by shelling the movement out of them, retooling/refinishing the case to the new spec, and then screen printing the brand on the face and/or changing out the movements if necessary, as the case is already designed to accept a few different versions. So these mvmnts may not have even been "made to order" they may have been reworks of pallets and pallets of watches that had already been manufactured, and what we are seeing is the chinese factory selling the unaltered "overstock" with a different name screen printed on them to clear their warehouse space. Its hard to tell, but this stuff happens all day every day when it comes to commisioning china to make products. So whenever you see a REALLY similar item on something lke alibaba, its usually the "parent" item of the name brand that it so closely resembles. Just wanted to put this out there, because not many people know the inner workings of this kind of thing.

Another great review, may I ask what gloves you use?

Does the movement on the MVT hack? Nice review and thanks! Thumbs up!

Came for the thumbnails, stayed for the down-to-earth watch content.

I've picked up a couple of Cadisen watches and the quality is really decent considering the price. It's a shame more people aren't willing to a little research before parting with their hard earned.

love that Seiko you are wearing. I'm wearing it now quite by coincidence. Think it a was $89 US.

Loved your video! I saw you did an Invicta Pro Diver review and wanted to highly recommend the Pagani Design "Diver" watch from AliExpress for maybe a future video. It's another submariner homage but I feel like Pagani Design did a much better job than Invicta. I am in LOVE with mine. Solid build quality, and amazing craftsmanship. I also love that they use a similar clasp to the true Submariner as opposed to the one they use on Invicta Pro Divers. Hope to maybe see a review on your channel one day for the Pagani Design one!

I love the "cut out the middleman" jab...

Funny that this (and many other RU-vid video's) start with a commercial from Vincero watches. And yes, they are using sentences like "Cutting out the middleman." Maybe interesting to check them out by one of your future video's.

Hey. Oddly enough the MVMT website lists the Arc Automatic at 41mm instead of 40mm, but it does look smaller than the 41mm Cadisen... Anyway, great video. Thanks Ben!

Hey Ben! Nice vid, I was willing to ask you which brand is the polo you're actuallt wearing?

I bought a Cadisen Diamond, about 67£ during the 10th anniversary sales for a miyota 9015 watch, hilarious, I bought it just out of curiosity, thinking I would have given it to my dad or a friend, as a gift. Well, I was so impressed that I kept it in my own collection, I would have never thought it but I do like (except for the strap). I bought it before Cadisen moved to the so called homages, I call it legalized fakes, I don't want to feed this kind of market, but I must admit the watch is beautiful and well made, chapeau.

The MVMT surprisingly did a good job on decorating the movement

I've been eying up that cadisen a little while Doesn't seem to be much put there regarding that particular model, good video mate, a brand that would be good for you to take a look at is festina. I've seen few very reasonably priced ones as of late

Any plans on reviewing the Cadisen Diamond with the 9015?

If the Cadisen was at 36/38, with 50-100wr, that would be an amazing modern interpretation of a vintage inspired everyday watch

The Cadisen has now doubled in value due to demand (I guess?), which STILL makes it half the cost of the MVMT. Which is hilarious.

I always felt those MVMT guys on their commercials seemed like frat boy Bros who came up with a marketing idea. No buy from me. Thanks for confirming.

I do like the simple and clean dial a lot.

As long as people wear watches I don’t care much which one, thankfully we all have different tastes otherwise the world would be a boring place. Great video to educate people on watches and what they should look for when it comes to quality

As an aside to this video, I think a lot of people, including watch collectors are really sleeping on soviet made mechanical watches. There’s tons of well made ones that look great and can be had for pretty cheap on ebay. I picked up a Raketa Big Zero not too long ago and I love it as a purely fashion watch.

I like the contrast between the chrome case and the white dial.

I can't believe I'm saying this about a MVMT watch, but I think it goes on the low end of cool. I think it's a big step up for them. I like the case a lot. It's attractive. I like the way the strap looks, although it may go quickly. I don't like the mineral crystal, and I don't like the price. I wouldn't personally buy one, but it's a big improvement for them. I think the Cadisen goes on the high end of cool. It looks much the same, although I don't like the shiny finish as much, but it more than makes up for it with an excellent price and sapphire crystal. (My rule these days is, if a watch costs more than $50, it *must* have sapphire crystal and *must* be automatic. The Cadisen has both.)

Cadisen > Cool MVMT > Uncool

Rather have the Cadisen! The value proposition, as well as the resale value, is higher for the Cadisen! Thanks for this review!

Once again a great and informative video, you really should check for Lobinni watch on Aliexpress, you would be impressed by the quality and specs (to me they are one of the only brand/factory which do a true QC before shipping you the product)

Talk about tacking, I ordered an item in the US, I'm in Switzerland. The package tracked from California, to New York before going back to California, Jamaica, Sydney Australia and stalled there for 2 months with the tracking. To the point where the insurance payed and an other one was sent that I received a month later. And, 2 months after that, so 5 1/2 months after the initial invoice, the first one arrives but still to this day tracks in Sydney.

Whilst I love the diameter of the Arc, but in my opinion the Cadisen one is the rational watch to buy. Why paid £200 more to downgrade to mineral crystal and only paid for the brand only? The Arc isn't a bad watch also, but the price and the spec are really insulting. Cadisen is ice cold MVMT, well, uncool.

Funny that I got Vincero advert on this video!

That Cadison is the bomb! (And nicer than the MVMT). If the second hand were a touch longer it would be spot on.

Hey man! any videos or idea on how some AliExpress automatic watches of "high quality" ( like $150-$200) are?? it would be interesting to see a review on them and have them opened and looked at inside.

I recently discovered chinese micro brand watches and I have to say for the price they are amazing. I just to want MVMT watch but many people said they are horrible which ultimately led me to discovered brands like steeldive, starking, alpha etc.

To add to this comparison, you should definitely look at Xiaomi Youpin automatic watch with the same miyota 821A movement, but sapphire at front and a slightly different face. It's also less than 100$! Nice video! 👍

Pleas do video on Vostok Classica. They seem to actually have hear blued screws. I would love to know is that true. They could be maybe bambino killers and good alternative to marlin and fassion watches

The quality of the leather straps on AliExpress watches is surprisingly good sometimes. Like the Pagani Design "Cocktail time" I recently got for 30€. Only "genuine leather" but smelled like a good new leather shoe (not like plastic) and is comfortable. Heck, I don't know what brands like Mvmt put on their watches as even some "pleather" straps on ultra cheap Chinese watches don't fall apart like that.

Amazing

The dial, date window and handset are also remarkably similar to the Skagen Ancher you reviewed previously.

Which watch do you wear on the video Ben?

Cabinet wins. Curved dial Option to brush finish yourself, not difficult Even to mod the rotor wouldn't be too difficult So for the price and potential to make alterations its a winner.

“Inflatable dart board”, good one, lol!

The movement logo on the crown looks like HSBC...

I would have just went with the Cadisen C8173G. The design is quite similar if slightly more generic, the price is cheaper, it comes with an seiko nh35 instead of a miyota 8215 and its thinner at 12mm thick. The downside being that the case is bigger (42mm).

£69 on AliExpress is a decent chunk of change, so must be OK quality

Please do a video on paul rich depending upon the watch they charge £250 to change from a quartz movement to a seiko NH35 movement. Its obvious that they get their watches from an aliexpress type website , every watch is limited to a few hundred

Anyone know how to change the strap for the cadisen? I don't see any quick release pins or holes to push pins out at all

Good video! Ben is your other channel finished?

Great comparison, should keep each on their same respective side of the screen instead of flip flopping them, but well done.

I know the purpose of the video is to compare two similar looking watches, but for around 100£ you could get a cadisen with a miyota 9 series movement on aliexpress. Which is quite a diference from a 8 series. Way thinner with a high beat and a smaller case. Also there is now quite a lot of aliexpress brands with that case shape and movement. I've got one from a brand called carnival with a gold case and a very nice blue dial. I actualy got quite curious when I saw the mvmt watch a while ago and wondered what the differences between the two might be. I finally got my answer.

I bought a Bulova mechanical watch recently with Miyota movement and the accuracy was amazing at +/-2 sec a day, so l said any mechanical watches with Miyota movement is 😎 cool and worth considered.

The newer casidens are using 9015s. Top end miyota apart from the unidirectional rotor a lot of watch pros say it's on par or better than a ETA 2428-2. $100 for the movement itself... I paid $136 for one with sapphire.

At £139 the MVMT would be a well priced watch. Assuming both watches cost the seller about £29 when purchased in bulk, what MVMT is doing, with a 10x multiple, isn't very unusual. I've worked with retail lifestyle brands long enough to know that 4x is the minimum multiplier you need to apply to stay afloat and 5x is the norm. There are, however, a lot of brands that apply 10x multiplier across perfume, eyewear, clothing, footwear and watches. Because they can get away with it.

I almost bought a MVMT watch because I didn't know any better. I thought they looked neat. Obviously I had no clue what makes for a good watch. Thankfully I saw videos like this one that opened my eyes.

10:19 what do you think about the revolver? that is imo the most original design