Demi Moore, and Andie Mc Dowell, are so INNOCENTLY beautiful, small-town American beauty, I miss the 80's, NO cellphone, NO toxic Facebook, all we have is Sports Illustrated, and Playboy mags, Levis 501, and Adidas Superstar shoes, LOL!
When I hear this, it's melody kind of reminds me of "Hold On To Love" that was first played in 1997 when Guiding Light Celebrated it's 60th Anniversary on TV.
A beautiful thought...that you could go to college, land a great job immediately that afforded you a beautiful urban apartment near DC, and could live the dream. Trouble happens when you refuse the next generation the same privileges you enjoyed.
You are fixated on solely the cost of schooling and real estate but you ignore about everything else. The amount of money that electronics and media cost back then were just mind boggling. Interest rates were also quite high which is something that most people nowadays take for granted. Telecommunication costs were way higher back then too. The point is cost rise in some areas while costs have plummeted in others. Your comment comes off as both entitled and lacking perspective. Also basing reality on a movie is a fool''s errand that applies to all ages.
@@UrielX1212 So lets address a few fallacies in your argument. As a 38 year old, I do just barely remember the world of the 1980s but more importantly, I remember when the media we take for granted was made available to the common residential home. First, interest rates mean nothing to a generation unable to save for a down-payment to buy a home, thanks to the crippling debt mandated by a world run by Boomers. Second, cell phones were typically only an executive electronic, the average person had landlines and yes, I can remember exactly how much my parents spent in 1987, two years after this film was made: an equivalent to $63.00 monthly adjusted to 2020 currency, or less than we pay for cell phone service today. Electronics were not as commonplace but neither was reliance on them. A family might own a VCR or Beta Max but with easy access to TV at no cost due to pre-digital broadcasting, it wasn't as common. So let's toss your arguments at this point, you aren't even aware of basic dates and electronic usage. Today school requires an internet connection. In 1985, my two college attending parents both used the public library resources at no cost (libraries which barely exist in many areas of the country now). So let's hit up a few 1985 stats which you can easily find through reputable sites like the NY Times, Atlantic, Labor Bureau and various University studies: In 1985 the average 25 year old clocked 1,981 work hours per year vs the average 25 year old today clocking 2,360. The median home was purchased for $96,000 which is $226,000 in today's money and over 100k lower than the median today. College tuition could be earned at the average state University for just over 1,150 hours of minimum wage work, today it takes 1,990. In 1985, childcare cost 3% of a family's income yet today it costs 11%. Healthcare ranged between 9%-12%, today it averages just below 18% for a family of three. And while all of this has gone up, the median salary when adjusted for inflation hasn't changed. Neither, have gas prices, interestingly. It should also be noted that 38% of jobs required a degree in 1985 as opposed to 67% percent today, meaning that without college debt you are significantly less likely to even obtain the median wage earned by those without a college degree in 1985. So let me spell this out for you: my generation has more education, required for the sake of the same jobs, at the same pay, with higher cost of housing and education, significantly higher cost of childcare and Healthcare, no ability to save for a home when well over 80% of our median salary paychecks just cover basic expenses, and you want to whine because a cell phone or VCR was a bit heftier back then? I strongly urge you to check your own privilege and your facts while you are at it. I'm a teacher with two masters degrees and I do not post anything which I haven't researched first. Should note, with two masters degrees and 10 years of experience, I make 13k below the national median and spend 27% of my income on Healthcare for a family of three. That was unheard of in 1985.
St. Elmos Fire. Was actually a decent film. But one you have to watch over. First time through you might just consider it another brat pack type film from the 80's. Which would mean something for people who grew up at around the same time. It did capture the look and feel. Which really hasn't cahnged. much. Not really dated. Good soundtrack. The dunking the buddies' head (Rob Lowe) in the toilet...ummm...kinda disgusting. Even if they flushed already. The germs that live in the bowl. BLAH!! How many of us would shrug that off even if a buddy did that to us. sss
Some think its funny to dunk someone's head in a toilet, but it is a nasty thing to do. Alec showed how much of a bully he is, probably did the same thing to nerds in school. Even though Rob Lowe's movie character, Billy, was a jerk that is was uncall for. But this is what Joel Schumacher wanted in the movie a former college frat buddy and yuppie, getting upset and dunking his former frat buddy and bad boy musician's head in a nasty bar toilet because he lost the job he got for him. How ridiculous if you ask me.
@@AmerIndianWarrior Agree 100%. In the real world it could have ended totally different. Manny would have started swinging at the "friend" ....that WAS nasty. Begs the quesion...if Judd's character willing to do that to a buddy what would he do to someone who sort of pissed him off? Oddly they made Andrew McCarthy's character act like it wa OK. Like they did that all the time. Shrug... Still liked the film watching the clips decades later. Did capture the 80's. A decade that had it's style....something lacking I think from the early 90's to date....it's like gradually we lost our creativity in entertainment, fashion, music....I think since 2010 9film biz/music biz)...legends retiring or passing away....genres of music dead (grunge, punk, new wave....Motown, R&B....) and oters gasping for air (pop music, country....)...a "dark ages"...
@@AGC828 Alec was a jerk like Billy. He made it seem like he was some goodie two shoes. No, he had skeletons in his closet too. Alec Newbarry was a real asshole like Billy even told him in the Mens Room.
It kind of feels like a sequel of sorts to Breakfast Club, which was about the endless possibilities ahead of them, but in St. Elmo's, it feels more about the malaise and disorientation that comes after finishing college, like... "what now?". I think the music videos convey that sentiment more than the film itself, though...
