I got to work with Mr. Sinatra at Desert Hospital in Palm Springs CA. in the early 80s. I helped him find locations in the Sinatra educational center to hang his personal oil paintings. He was easy to work with. His main concern was the security and the permanent attachment to the walls. He drove up in a yellow Gremlin car wearing a Dodgers jacket and ball cap. A few people were able to get his autograph. Most did not know he passed them. It was a pleasant experience for me. I also was able to help him in a Sinatra benefit dinner for the hospital. Good memory.
I'VE HEARD ND READ ALL THIS CRAP B4 ABOUT FRANKIE, HEARD HIS OWN PERSONAL TAKE ON IT WHEN HE WAS AROUND 2 ANSWER ALL THE ?????'S . I'VE HEARD ND READ FROM MANY, MANY PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT A KIND, GENEROUS GIVING ND HELPFUL MAN HE WAS, ND THAT'S WHO HE IS 2 THOSE WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT HIM ND THOSE THAT DON'T JUST R GREEN EYED MONSTERS WHO 'NJOY EATIN' SOUR GRAPES. JUS' SAYIN' !!!
I saw Frank Sinatra long, long, ago in Mobile, Alabama. The man was electrifying. He was not announced. Frank just walked out on stage, and the house went up in flames. What a talent, what a night.
After I find out about the actor and singers when I was a kid, I usually get bumbed out. Kind of like finding out your dad was a serial killer. I guess we all have skeletons in our closets, but some people have a morgue..
Michael Smith yeah there's a lot of stories for decades about his bullying and some of them are corroborated by witnesses some of whom were famous also . He didn't like writer Dominick Dunne ... a maitre d told Dominic to please forgive him while declaring Frank Sinatra made me do this and then he punched Dominic in the nose ... Dominick Dunne looks over and sees Frank Sinatra glaring . Gay talese was a witness to Frank Sinatra bullying another writer Harlan Ellison who wrote a lot of TV shows and episodes ... especially for Star Trek and outer limits . There's actually a video of him telling the story on The Hangover Lounge Inc. channel called " Harlan Ellison on Esquire's Frank Sinatra Has A Cold " He tells the whole story of what happened . There's also an excellent documentary about Frank Sinatra and Palm Springs ... and it people talk about the various things they witnessed with Frank and his crazy temper ... every now and then he'd go nuts in a restaurant if he didn't like the food and throw the dinner plate at the wall in front of everybody .
I dont really get bummed out at all. For me it's actually the opposite. I think people you look up to having issues makes them more human. Nobody's roll models are perfect they all have their own personal issues going on.
He put so much feeling in songs like "Softly as I leave you" and "Lucky to be loved by you" That you can listen to them over and over and love every minute.
I met him back in 1963 when I was working at Eden Roc Hotel, Miami Beach when he gathered with his buddies Dean Martin, Sammy Davis, Jr., Joey Bishop and Peter Lawford, at Jillys Jen across the street. He was always surrounded by body guards but friendly. He was a very good tipper.
@@efandmk3382 he certainly was a musician...as he conducted at least one album..i know of...plus he made changes to the charts as he was recording them....and he did compose at least one song...so...i guess you will have to drop your "comment "thing........and BTW rock brain....someone can certainly be a musical genius just by being a singer....now you go try and figure out why that is true
@@efandmk3382 exactly. Only a singer. He didnt compose or write lyrics. Everybody liked him for his performance. So lets look again in the mirror. We made him what he was. He owe us his voice.
Mr. Sinatra was a master of breath control, I have never head one instance where you can hear him breathe while singing. I read he learned that technique watching Tommy Dorsey and perhaps other horn players. Nelson Riddle was another master he blended polytonal harmony with traditional tonal voicings. Two masters.
@@alanstevenson-graham6268 Yes, well, they pretty much sell their soul to career. They do it to become the best of the best. Not just famous. No more girlfriend, no more mother, no more father, just training and work for whatever your career is. I trace it back to the great composers of the western world. I don't want to judge people but personally I'd stay away from this type of life. It will eventually turn you into a machine. You're not a human being anymore.
nobodies mentioned Bobby Fuller of the Bobby Fuller Four who was dating Nancy Sinatra, frank did not approve. Bobby Fuller died in strange happenings, witch still has a open verdict.
I’m 57 and I have always known Dean Martin to be a far better singer than Sinatra and a classier guy, too. Although I’m sure Dino had his problems, Sinatra always seemed like a dark character.
Musically although of course they sang a few of the same songs they were as different as night and day. Dean Martin early on with his first wife and kids started to make money and ignored his responsibilities. __ he instead had more interest in womanizing . Martin during that period of his life was far from an exemplary person.
Dean Martin was a crooner. A good one,but one dimensional. He never really " owned" that many songs Sinatra was a superb singer who often sang on the off beat which controlled the song. The best interpreter of the American songbook bar none. His collection of classics is outstanding. Dean M was a far nicer person though.
Sinatra was just about the greatest singer of modern times. Martin was just pretty good. In terms of singing, Martin is not to be mentioned int he same sentence as Sinatra. Certainly Martin was a nicer guy
They both had fine natural voices, but neither were musical talents. They both got by on style. Nat King Cole could outperform either. More recently, Michael Buble can pick up any Sinatra standard, and do it better in one take.
@@billyjoejimbob56 You are of course joking. Sinatra had no musical talent and Buble could best him...haha. You're a funny guy. Nat had a beautiful smooth voice though...excellent pianist too.
@Antonio Perales del Hierro Calm down dude. No one will take away your pacifier. Please stop cursing my LORD'S Name in vain. Its unbecoming of a man who is so embellished with so much self-earned talent.
@@jcisme Yes! I think it was the funniest one ever done. The lasagna pan, the autograph, the raincoat, and didn't he say his relatives thought that Jerry Vale was actually doing the singing on Sinatra's recordings? Priceless!
Yes it is. You know if I had met him, I wouldn't want to be on his bad side but an acquaintance. I had heard of his temper, no wonder he was married so many times but he had so many friends and family and he never forgot where he came from
Sinatra's song, "I Did it My Way " , represented his whole life, He wasn't going to be told what to do. I remember Kennedy, after a while , refused to go to his home. Kennedy Snr was involved often with the bad side but JFK was wanting to expose Secret Societies.
Amazingly Sinatra was human. Full of faults, promise, talent and ups and downs. There's no deigning he was one of the greatest entertainers of all times & had hit records in six decades. Can't think of any other entertainer with his longevity. RIP Chairman
Frank Sinatra was a cult figure, a early racial equity advocate and a scary hombre. But his SEPTEMBER OF MY YEARS album and Nelson Riddle collaborations are par excellence. True New Yorker!
Nelson riddle great music writer. Theme tune to Route 66 the programme in 1963 I think...it was... I'm in love with that tune all my life. As it happens just turned 66.!👍
I love the Platters. In my view, they outshine Sinatra. I do an inst guitar version of 'Twilight Time' on guitar, using 2-note harmony throughout. Same for 'Magic Touch'
Everything in this video has been documented many times. Nothing new here. Do a documentary about how good a person he was and loving father. He hated racism and did many benefits for blacks. Was a well known philanthropist. Did anything for his friends. And his gift to the world was his delivery and interpretation of songs. And great voice. Thank God for Frank.
The fact he had depression and wasn't treated for it, explains his angry outbursts. Sinatra didn't need the mob's help Sinatra was a once in a lifetime singer, as old Bing Crosby stated
Good people can do bad things, and bad people can do good things. This is a video about his darker side. The title pretty much says that. If you didn't want to hear that your idol was a deeply flawed man, you shouldn't have watched it.
@@bbr1133 - missed my point. I was trying to point out that he had a very positive side to him. The post I reacted to mentions “Dark Details”. I agree there is nothing special about not being a racist. But he acted on that and did many things to promote non racism. Spent big dollars and gave a lot f his time to putting together entertainment to raise money for various benefits. Big difference. He was different. I liked him. Sounds like you didn’t.
@@bbr1133 At the time, racism was treated as the norm. Casual or not. For a celebrity, as famous as Sinatra, to be vocal about their opposition to something, that normalised, was (and still is, in my opinion) a big deal and very respectable.
@@classicalhollywood3254 that was kinda uncalled for with a visibly low vocabulary. You should never talk about the dead like that. She walked the shoes that you didn’t among other Hollywood stars, you so called “classical hollywood”
His mother was a mid-wife who performed illegal abortions with lots of clout to pull ole Frankie into the limelight. Where is the blessing and the joy in that? Hollywood is a complete lie. Now we have abortion on demand. Tragic.
Yes pp312, That was comedian Shecky Greene - a joke as far as the punchline goes, but based on fact - he was set upon by a couple of Sinatra goons while walking across the lobby of the Sands Hotel. Also Jackie Mason, another comedian who angered Sinatra because of jokes he made in his act about the age difference between Sinatra and his then wife Mia Farrow. Gunshots were actually fired into his hotel bedroom through patio doors, going into his mattress. Mason actually made a joke about this in his act, saying he wasn't specifically saying it was Sinatra, but all he knew was that there were a couple of guys out there in the corridor afterwards, going "doo-be-doo-be-doo". He then got (in his own words) 'loused up' by Sinatra henchmen by way of a knuckle duster while sitting in his parked car, which broke his nose.
Frank was truly a great singer. What he did in his personal life was between him and God. We are all sinners. Another thing about Frank, whenever he sang, whatever the band, they always lit up and played like never before with greater attention and effort. You hear it on every recording. He was an Icon of that era and he made many people happy and deepened the appreciation of quality lyrics, substance, love and life's emotional variations and amazing musical arrangements that couldn't be reproduced today. He was a true and unique talent that represented hope and love to so many.
I wonder whether he suffered brain damage from the forceps at his birth? This has happened before. Also, they said he was left scarred on the left side of his face! The force used could easily have left him brain damaged which may have affected his personality!
You know that was a Paul Anka song, right? Frankie HATED that song. And he hated that it became his trademark. At least, according to Nancy. Judy Garland felt the same way about "Over the Rainbow". She hated singing it because it made her cry.
Whatever Frank Sinatra was in his personal life, I still enjoy his way of singing a song which is unequaled by today's singers of popular music! Additionally, I was grateful to inherit my dad's collection of Sinatra's Reprise LPs which play wonderfully.
People act like it's the end of the world if a celebrity isn't perfect. Literally nobody is. There are so many people, like Sinatra, who have anger issues. I'm one of them. People need to remember that famous people are regular folks, too. Instead, the media portrays them like some sort of God.
Not everyone ignores how he paid doctors to avoid going to the Army.However the most important thing that he had a great arranger, Nelson Riddle and great taste in choosing the right songs.
Nelson Riddle wrote the the theme tune to Route 66 the show in 1963 I believe it aired...I LOVE that tune it's. BRILLIANT. As it happens just turned 66 years old ! Yeah 😊. 👍♥️
Susan, he paid doctors to avoid going into Army??? I’ve read many articles about him pointing out his good and not so good qualities. You are the only person I’ve ever heard dig that low in an attempt to dishonor him. Most important thing about him was his incredible voice and ability to actually feel the words and convey that to the listener. He made famous recordings with many arrangers. It wasn’t a matter of choosing the right songs, it was Frank’s delivery and style. He once made a bet he would record “Old McDonald Had A Farm” and make it a hit. He did and it was a hit. And I agree that Nelson was a genius arranger. Thank God for both of these men.
The stuff recorded w/Billy May as Sinatra's arranger is far superior and hipper than Riddle's arrangements. but no one ever mentions Billy May. Typical.
Patty Duke was bipolar. Talks about it in her book, Call me Anna. Original movie, "Valley of the dolls". She said the part she played was her before diagnosis and treatment.
@@jamessilver6429 I'm willing to bet your IQ within 10 points and I'm willing to put $2,500 on it that I can guess it almost to the point what do you think
The man was loyal to his friends and had a unique singing AND acting talents. He did it HIS way ... my kind of guy. There are a lot worse in this world.
If he had people beaten up then he was on a par with any psychopath. Never make excuses for violent people just because they can entertain. A narc, is a narc, is a narc, is a narc.
Not mentioned. His acting ability. He was very versatile. 'The Man with the Golden Arm' is probably the best movie ever made about heroin addiction. Sinatra was amazing in the role!
And acting ability are you talking about, he went crying to his pal Willie Moretti to get the acting part in the film that he won a Oscar for, he would only start fights when he had about 7 gangsters around him to hold him back and they didn’t have to struggle to hold him back apparently, he was nothing but a wannabe gangster and nothing more if it wasn’t for Moretti he would’ve never got away from Tommy Dorsey , the cry baby.
@@robertdoyle7186 I remember that film Robert I watched it and enjoyed it cause at the time I watched it it was a good war film I thought with a good storyline to it so I didn’t really take notice of who was in the film I was quite young mate but yeah it was a good film brother take care of yourself buddy from Stevie boy in Britain
@Bazof TheNorth sorry buddy I don’t understand what you mean when you say self pwersevation that’s all mate the rest of the comment you are a 100% bang on mate take care of yourself buddy from Stevie boy.
It's unfortunate that struggles and dark sides seem to be necessary for most great entertainers and storytellers but this holds true for far more of them than just Sinatra. You can trace this back through the ages to Shakespeare and beyond! They didn't call him the 'Chairman of the Board' for no good reason! I got to see the older Sinatra in concert and his good mood that night made 15,000 folks, including me, very happy! He was one of the few older singers who could get a crowd that big in the seventies! But I could see his dark side in some of his movies and it was why he was good in them as the character had dark moods too. Sinatra will live on for the good things he did as well as the bad. In that way he is no different from us, just more famous, so it's on display. Still makes him one of the coolest enetertainers ever! I listen to him and Dean Martin quite a bit still.
In Sinatra's day, most nightclubs were owned by the Mob - so was he "guilty by association" ? Vegas was also Mob - run. It can be argued that just about anyone back in those days had Mob connections as they had to deal with them to get gigs. As for Sinatra's personal flaws ~~ seriously, who doesn't have them? The guy was super-talented as a singer & actor and that's good enough for me.
It's sad how people idolize celebrities and put them on a pedestal, even though they could have possibly murdered someone, they're still put on a pedestal... Very very sad.
Yeah! 'cause all celebrities are such *bastions* of virtuousness! and they're generally all so *idealizable* and *above reproach!* lmao! but "somebody might have done something" ...so there ya go... xD
@@wardmckee7407 Case in point: John Wayne exhibited racist ideas in an interview 50 years ago, wherein he said he believed in white supremacy and that black people should not be given leadership until they are educated to the point of personal responsibility.
" FLY ME TO THE MOON" Frank & Count Basie's band. and he went out of his way to help Sammy Davis Jr when Sammy was dying and broke. RIP Frank could act also. Von Ryan's Express was a classic
I made it appoint in my life never to be a "Groupie" for anyone. My mother was a singer and she also was never considered a worshiper of anyone mortal (LOL) My brother -on the otherhand- was a singer song-writer and a performer - and did a certain amount of hero worship and career following. I was a D J and even then, would not stoop to gawking at anyone; it was always important for me - and the station I worked for - to be professional, intelligent, and considerate of whomever it was I was interviewing. It made sense to stay professional and not get caught up in a mania. The public is too fickle to try to depend on their faithfulness. Appreciation for talent and consideration for their comfort was always upper-most in all the work I did, live and on air. It was important if you wanted to be effective in the business (usually referred to as monkey business) if you were serious about the time you had to be in the spot light. In my case, an impeccable history was really worth every bit of investment it took in time and money. You certainly don't want any trash to be hidden in any part of your past life that could be a detriment in the future.
Frank was a genuine human being who lived an extraordinary life that was filled with passion and success. In the cultural milieu of nightclub entertainment of his era, dealing with members of crime syndicates was unavoidable. Indeed he had a temper that could become unattractive especially when fueled by drinking. But that is an aspect of his intensity and drive and doesn’t define who he is. What does are the countless times his gracious manner and generous heart touched people the world over. He unofficially served as the Ambassador of American culture to a world shaken by war that looked up to the U.S. as a beacon of optimism and hope. Frank, like everybody, is what he is - flaws included. If he were a choir boy who eschewed vice and pleasure, then he wouldn’t be Frank, and there wouldn’t a catalogue of his recorded repertoire at Capitol Records in the 1950’s that is one of the finest representations of the American Songbook by any single artist.
At the tail end of Marilyn Monroe's life it was said that Frank Sinatra knew that Marilyn was in deep trouble and he wanted to marry her and try and save her. But it was too late, and Frank's actions at this time were very questionable in his attempt to save her. Sinatra was not invited to Monroe's funeral.
He was banned by DiMaggio who couldn't handle the attention she received. He hated her star being so big, and desperately wanted her to be a housewife. He literally banned Sinatra from the funeral ..
Never idolize anyone. I thought Jimmy Stewart was a wonderful man. I found out that he was very prejudiced. In the making of the movie "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" , he refused to talk to actor Woody Strode.. I was very disappointed in hearing this and other things about him. He had a very dark side ! At least Sinatra was what he was.
Not right to judge history by today's rules. Things were different and everyone grew up different. You, in that environment, would have been different, too.
✨ The superbly golden hearted Don Rickles used to bring up mafia sounding names and say somebody was getting clipped. Everyone would get a kick of the downplaying of the mob connection. But, those monsters really took horrible advantage of Frank.✨
FYI there's a book written about him "His Way". It doesn't paint a pretty picture of him. One chapter talks about him telling his house boy find me some girls so he brought some women to his home. Sinatra would be really nice to them and then they all go to his bedroom to spend the night. The next morning Sinatra told his house boy tell the girls to pack their bags and get the hell out of here.
A man who took his talent to the limits and beyond. Nonetheless he was just a man. I’m glad in a way that I don’t have such riches. Who knows what it would do to me. He did it his way.
There's a verse in the bible which reads for what should it profit a man if he gain the whole world be recognize for all his talents and yet you got nothing see he was very talented what did Satan say to eve in the garden you will be like god or you will become god so that's what he was his own god sad though he lost everything
My Dad, loved Frank Sinatra, his singing, & Acting! He used to play, all his records! I can name a few, I think! My Way, Strangers in the Night, Come Fly with me! Really Loud, it used to send me Nuts! But I got used to it! We had My Way, when it was his Funeral! RIP Frank Sinatra, RIP Dad, miss you & love you always! 😭😫😔❤❤❤❤🇬🇧That's Life!
Frank Sinatra was a very successful singer and actor, a man of a different time. Every career has ups and downs. Long careers have changes in fashions and likes and dislikes. Frank could always reinvent himself and adjust to the times. He did have downs but Frank always could reinvent his persona and successfully come out of the downward spirals. Another great and talented artist who really had trouble doing this was Elvis Presley. Also I might add Frank did a lot of philanthropic work and made many charitable contributions that he didn`t want publicize. Overall I think he was a pretty good guy.
Writer Dominic Dunn relayed a story about being in a bar once when Sinatra and his entourage came in. For some reason unknown to Dunn Frank sent one of his entourage over to him. The man apologized and said, “I’m so sorry about this. But I have to do it. If I don’t I’ll be in a ton of trouble.” He then punched Dunn in the face. I’ve heard tell of other writers, Harlan Ellison for one, who had run-ins with him and were threatened. Allison did not write anything about Sinatra until after an incident where Sinatra was pissed off because Ellison was dressed b a way Sinatra didn’t like. Anybody who knows of Harlan Ellison knows that is the wrong person to pick on. Absolutely fearless and with a massive tongue that can cut anybody down to size. He let Sinatra have it. But only after Sinatra kept yelling across the bar at him while he was trying to play pool and ignore him. He was a complicated person. At times an absolute asshole.
I love all the information people bring to the world today about the GOAT's of yesteryear. Thank you for this video. Much respect from katrinka in the San Francisco Bay Area
When have you ever heard of a LEGEND, and not also heard of controversy. All through history this goes hand in hand. This man had both merit, and melancholy. In both his professional and personal life. I am a huge RAT PACK FAN, and let me say, there will never be another entertainer that matches his level of achievement. This man died with some $800 million in the bank. That says something right there. He had a way with everyday people. He could and would connect with the common man.
No matter Frank Sinatra's faults I still like him. I don't look at a performers faults, I go by if I enjoy their singing and/or their acting performances.
When he was starting out he would try to sing in the bars in Jersey City. My maternal uncle was a bouncer at some of the bars. He would throw Sinatra out because no one wanted to hear him. Sinatra was friends with my uncle's fiance's brothers and my uncle could not stand him.
I have heard Sinatra's recordings from way way back when he fronted that group. He was not popular as yet for sure. BUT his voice stood out and it was apparent surely that he had a great sound. Your story about nobody wanting to listen to him I'm sure is pure du du .
Frank Sinatra : huge musical talent. His private life : one of paradoxes. He was generous. But he also had a dark side ( read : ties with the mob ). Sinatra reminds me of Peter Sellers. A comical genius of note. But his private life was troubled. Disturbed.
I've been to the Ava Gardner Museum in her hometown of Smithfield NC, just 30 miles from Raleigh where I live. I also saw her grave. The story goes that Sinatra flew in, rented a limo and then sat in that limo during Ava's graveside service.
