Out of all the enemy factions in Darkest Dungoen 1,2 and their mods the Fanatics are in my opnion the most horrorfying. They are not elderitch monsters nor risen undead but humans who have been warped by madness and desperation. The Librarian, too, is even more disgusting because he attacks what makes us human in the first place-our knowledge and intellect.
Yeah, don`t forget contempt and rage. The Fanatics are the most horrifying because they check all the boxes of the most horrid ideology known to men. Complete self-destructive behavior, contempt for knowledge with book burnings, killing and displaying everyone that is not them....We had this once already.....
They reminds me of the worst part of media industry, wheres the word is censered, books are burned and vile inhumane twitter mob screeching like rabid animals, demand arts and work to be negated. Not unlike these monstrous fanatics. Snowflakes from every political spectrum are the bane of human mind development and though process. They only know anger, they only know fear, they blame everything on people who barely even responsible for their grief and bellow out their tall tales and war cries. Devoided of reason and intelligence of a sapien species.
I wonder if the reason for the Fanatics' obsession with fire is as an extension of the Faith, desiring to push back the darkness of the Spreading Stain by creating as much illumination as possible by any means necessary. Rend the flesh for fat to make candles, pile up tomes to create bonfires, anything and everything to empower the Light.
It does sound like a clever commentary on blind faith. All they know is that the flame and the light are supposed to protect them, so they set everything on fire, because they miss the fact that the flame is a metaphor for hope. In their desperation, they reach for the most simple and direct solution, flattening all complexity, understanding and knowledge.
It doesn't seem entirely just like a fascination with fire, but rather the fire serves as a tool for the mobs expression of nihilistic fury and existential resentment. The same resentment I think is driving the librarian to burn his own boosk, because of the sheer despair and anger at how useless and futile humanitys achievments proved in the end This is why I love nihilism as a villain motivation
To me I believe each area represents something that the protege birthed when he wore the crown just like with the four main bosses of the game. The sprawl represents his burning anger towards the scholar for trying to stop what he’s been looking for in his research.
Exactly. Each one is a projection of his memory of them. A twisted and dark version of it but a memory none the less. It's like when a person focuses on everything they hate about a place, rather than the things they loved about it. Which is why the Alter of Hope is about rebuilding those areas and the Academic reminds us about the better times. "When we would marvel at the architecture"
You know, there is something interesting about the Librarians design. His clothing is mostly intact, he is the only boss with an immunity to the element he inflicts (outside of the Implication, which is a full metallic cannon) and he has these scrolls obstructing his eyes. Could it be that for all his anger the Scholar/Protege still had a soft spot for the old librarian and this soft spot, while not being able to completely protect the Librarian from the spreading stain, still protects him from the flame and at least tries to spare him the details of the burning?
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A lovely video as usual! One of my personal headcanons for the game is that the way reach region was transformed was based on The Protégé's views of the world. The Tangle where he and his mentor would take long aimless walks is now full of empty corpses, forever wandering the treeline. The Shroud where they'd hear all manor of sea-born secret and perhaps tales of aquatic legend now under the control of a fishy god. The Feotor where the nobles of the lands would stuff their pockets and stomachs is now an orgy of consumption. And the Sprawl? The place where the Great Library from their investigation and research burned? Now it shall forever burn... It even makes sense with the boss node being "The Great Library" which is the same name used for the one in The Academic's narrations at the end of Act II "The fire began in the East wing of The Great Library" Just a personal headcanon of mine.
Indeed, I do like this theme and it's something I will explore more in-depth in another video, probably one of the last ones since it's tied so much into the story of the game. But Yes, the protégés is enforcing his will/memories onto the world after he invoked the Iron Crown. He has the absolute power to warp reality but he is not in a mentally stable place, so the world is as corrupted as his mind.
@@MiskatonicMemorialist You know, reading that, i am glad that the Scholar/Protege was completely enamored in his studies. Imagine the ways his mind could twist the world with certain distractions.^^
-has flashbacks to the Library of Alexandira- no......not again.......why wont people stop burning knowlage? IS NOTHING SACRED???! magnificent video! it started with fire! wonder if we get to the rain or the rot...or maybe salt...... keep on recording the knowlage, so that it may live forever, just as the stones and the memorys.
One of the most interesting parts about the Sprawl to me, is Reynauld's being there and Dismas' reaction to knowing he's out there and in need. Darkest Dungeon 2 is according the devs, an alternative universe/timeline from the first. That in mind, this Dismas shouldn't know who Reynauld is. However in the lead up to Reynauld's addition, Dismas began making references to the original timeline. "Like a dream that feels too real. The manor. The Knight...", he said at times. Then upon Reynauld's addition, his helmet is found first thing at the inn. You can take it onto the coach, for a price. Dismas then had very interesting reactions to seeing the helmet. Stating either how he misses Reynauld, or telling the Crusader to holdfast, and that he was coming. A friendship from another timeline transcending beyond it to light the way for both in another? If that ain't one big metaphor for just how important and special hope is I dunno what is. This is also a fun little reference to the original timeline, even if both shouldn't remember it but seemingly do. Or at least Dismas does. Course I have to wonder if the entity of the original Darkest Dungeon may have had some hand in the memories at play? Or perhaps the Color of Space inspired critter that was putting everyone in a time loop to save itself from death. Hell maybe both are responsible for this in some way. Whatever the case, I suppose it doesn't matter. The hamlet was implied to be destroyed in this timeline since no one came for it this time. And even if the creatures within do remain in this timeline, can we truly be certain of their intentions or reasoning? Given the Lovecraftian natures of them? So hey if they wanted to give a select few survivors memories of a different timeline, so be it. It certainly helps our merry band, so who are we to deny it I suppose. I welcome the more hopeful details.
What's interesting is that we don't truly know what the actual world looks like. We see the world through a mindscape of a dream. A conjuration created by the Professor's spirit and the Protagee's desperation to be free. The heroes we have on our journey are even more odd. It's not certain if the Protagee knew them in life or if these are the heroes fighting back against the apocalypse and the Protage is directly helping them at times and looking into their minds. (The Iron Crown seems to grant omipotenence ontop of everything) Even more so, if you go to the Academic Studys, you can find paintings of the old manor and of the Ancestor who's even has a role in the story. The heroes who were in the first game respond with uncomfort and unease looking at the paintings. Saying that it feels like a distant dream. We could even bring the front that maybe everything in the last game DID happen. But with the Protagee literally rewriting the world and changing reality, the heroes could literally have been rewritten by the new god's dark mind and when they look upon the paintings and things of their past, their memory tries to recall it but struggles.
When you think about it for too long, you quickly realise if the apocalypse ever broke out in our world, The idea of The Fanatics become much more plausible. True we'd likely have to deal with some equivalent of pillagers, gaunts and rabid beasts, but that's nothing we haven't seen before (fiction or otherwise), but compared to the other enemy factions, the fanatics don't need the supernatural to exist, and that makes them that so much more terrifying.
YESSSS finally DD2 lore vids! Let's goooooo I look forward to future vids of areas and their monsters on top of the cult and the final bosses and the BBEG at the end in future vids
@@MiskatonicMemorialist I hope so. I love the game but it leaves so many things unanswerd. What happend to the mannor? How does the mountain connect to mannor/ancestor? Whats with the swinefolk? What happend to the comet of madness? What happend to the hearth of the world? How does it connect to the mountain? I am frustrated that we dont know what happend! Also please dont stop covering Darkest Dungeon. I know it doesnt have much of an RU-vid audiance, but your videos on it are very interesting and rewatchable.
@@heyguysiguessthatsit4610 Dismas has actually an interesting reaction to the academic study with the portrait of the manor. He utters "Like a dream that feels too real. The manor, the knight...." There are in my opinion two possible interpretations of this. The manor could be a place that thanks to its Groundhog Day Loop is so isolated now that exiting the area causes the memory of it to fade. The other could be that DD2 and DD1 are different timelines and Dismas having flashbacks from the timeline where he met Reynauld and went to the manor. About the swinefolk. The warrens are said to extend far beyond the manors reach. Or the swinefolk are good diggers and simply expanded underground. About the connection between the manor and the mountain. There is no direct one, but Confession 3 (Obsession) tells something......(I won`t tell, cause spoilers).
@@aureliodeprimus8018 We tread the multiverse like a tightrope. In short basically, the Estate is stuck in it's own time loop. Either from the Farmstead or the Heart, but it does exist in the world and we see people from there who enter and leave the place. Our heroes being one of them. They remember parts of the place but after time resets in the area it'll feel like a bad dream, only way to break it is to leave. Swine are compared to Orcs of DD, and if Mordor has taught me anything Orcs are incredibly crafty. They can just dig and expand, after all, they breed quickly. And yea Act 3 has some references and throw backs to the "You know who" and in true fashion, whenever something goes horribly wrong, he is there.
