That is what suited the application. There is more to studs vs bolts than just studs vs bolts. Materials, RPM, fitment considerations and more are part of the conversation. You could have an aftermarket bolt that is superior to a stud of lesser quality material for example. You need to use what works for the application in front of you, not what someone else building something different is doing. Quality fastener suppliers like ARP can help with that along with your aftermarket parts manufacturer/s - Taz.
Fairplay to them offering a block that will take that kind of power for $4500 is very good value for money, can see this block be a bery good seller given the scarcity of good conditioned oem 2jz blocks.
Meant to ask before. It's possible to 3D print casting cores and some companies will cast lower melt point alloys, such as aluminiun or bronze, for customers with some even doing the printing from the customers' file. Can/will DART offer this service for cast/nodular iron/steel products of the customer's design?
Great question, one that I can't answer sadly. You can certainly do that in general as I'm sure you know (lost PLA casting), but for an engine block? Will see if we can sneak in a question around this if we see them later in the year at the likes of SEMA or PRI 😎 - Taz.
sometimes an element of ductility within the material-specifications of the elemental recipe of the metal alloy (since steel is an alloy of iron and other elemnts) adds a lavel of durability and resistances to enduring working-forces & wear; steel(s) can sometimes be too stiff &/or brittle compared to an alloy of iron (yes steel is a carbon alloy of iron, but there are iron alloys too, that are not necessarily considered a 'steel' alloy. I might guess this has trace elements of copper or manganese, molybdenum and perhaps even two or four other elements too, with a final percentage of carbon below the typical carbon content for a 'steel', within its casting iron alloy makeup.
They should make k series blocks, they are such great and popular engines and the weak block is their only major flaw, I think the market is much bigger than for a 2jz
Can’t go wrong with Dart, but I hope they show RB blocks some love from the profit they reap from these blocks. They’ve proven themselves time and time again
Fascinating: You can build a Chrysler Hemi - the premier US performance engine, which has not been manufactured for decades - entirely from aftermarket parts. It costs, but you can do it. And now, you can build a Toyota 2JZ - the premier Japanese performance engine, which has not been manufactured for decades, either - entirely from aftermarket parts.
Just think, the 2JZ has been manufactured since 1991, been having these problems since the 2000s and it’s finally 2023 and we’re getting an aftermarket block. SBC, SBF, BBC, BBF and Chrysler products have had aftermarket blocks since the 80’s.
I just want to know when Dart is releasing their new RB blocks! I need an upgraded RB30 block, but don't want to spend $14,000 on a billet block from Bullet
This is great! Especially for the 1jz guys that might want to go 2.5 jz later on. Billet blocks, ones that have coolant passages built for them cost anywhere from 12,500 to 14,000 usd. If going by examples from Mazworks and Titan motor sports. This at less than one third the cost could be a game changer!
Im a mailman, and there’s one house on one of my routes with a Supra in the driveway. Last Saturday, he was in the garage working on it. I couldn’t resist. Parked right in front, without a word, walked up next to him to admire the engine, and then… “2JZ, no shit..”
I really hope Dart brings back their reproduction b series blocks. I know its a very rough start in the beginning, some from growing pains, some it from the honda "community". The ones that worked and/or done properly worked, very VERY well. B series guys need this again
@@nickthelebo 2jz ge, it's gonna be less expensive than gte i think and pretty sure are the same. but port may be different on gte to accomodate flow with the turbo 🤔
@@TML34 If you paid any attention to this video where they address stock block availability, it's stated that Toyota still does run these blocks but the drawback is that you have to buy it as a factory short block and end up throwing away half of the components. You just addressed an entire crate engine... They typically go for anywhere from $25k to $50k if I can remember correctly. So lets say I want my engine to be a turbo 426 with a 4.0 throw and 4.125 bore. I already have to remove the $10,000 supercharger unit. What if I want Thitek heads with coated chambers and valves? I'll now have to remove the $5,000 heads. Now I want some TBC Diamond pistons with the .927 SBC DLC pins on some Callies Enforcer rods... so now I have to remove a $5,000 rotating assembly. The aluminum vvt block is a good option too but it's 2k more than what Dart was trying to ask for their G3 block. The Iron block has a good appeal for street applications because of their full siamese sleeve, lack of core shift, likely a stronger material than factory, thicker decks and they were even attempting to make it a 6 bolt/cylinder block. Now is it ok to want an aftermarket Dart G3 Hemi block?
@@primexgatling5529 if you want ridiculous power, there’s no need for a Hemi build, end of discussion. If you still want a Hemi, and aren’t doing a drag build, then just buy one from the parts catalogue. You get a warranty too.
as far as losing money on a short block.. u can buy the FULL SHORT BLOCK and sell the components which are pretty much NEW still and recoop a good amount of that money back actually for the block itself.
Have you done this personally? Can't imagine there is a massive market for stock 2jz parts in 'as new' condition from random sellers for anywhere close to new prices. When you put a cost on the time it also takes you to sort all that out and deal with the type of person that is attracted to such products/sales avenues then it's even worse. That said, if you have found a way to make that work and are more than happy to continue to do things this way, no one is telling you that you can't 😎 - Taz.
Another company is working on one of those I believe but it's worth noting that Nissan have also put the RB26 block back into production. Not sure on the price tag . Some obvious advantages to a RB26 version of what Dart is offering here over a stock block though. One of the upcoming podcast episodes will have more info re the aftermarket cast RB block - Taz.
@@hpa101 I was lucky enough to grab a new in the box OEM RB26 but it's still just a stock block with all its flaws, PRP has stated they're going to want 8-10k for their cast RB so Dart, if you're listening, PLEASE make an RB!
There is a difference between a cast and billet block beyond whether it is a factory or aftermarket/3rd party casting. Billet vs cast comes up in a bit of content, I can't remember it all but here are two pieces: Podcast: www.hpacademy.com/blog/037-pushing-60-psi-through-a-subaru-boxer-podcast/? Interview: www.hpacademy.com/blog/cast-vs-billet-mountune-motorsport-engine-block-design-tech-talk/? - Taz.
Would like to know there cast iron alloy mix how much nickel etc and hardness compared to the factory block as this is critical in a big Hp motor Surprised they it wasn’t a question you asked Great interview looks like the block will fill the gap that’s emerging
Material and the application come into play when bolts vs studs are discussed. Don't just copy what someone else is doing, bolts or studs, without understanding your own needs and requirements - Taz.
It’s actually a good price. Take a stock block to the machine shop and have them do billet mains and stroker clearance bore hone etc.. and see what your bill is.
You gotta take into consideration that the block isn't stock design and needs r&d poured to it. It's pretty good upgrade without spending arm and leg for billet one.
If it costs more to produce than people are willing to pay, it won't be around for long. I'd say they wouldn't get this far into things without a solid feel for their target market and comparatively priced options. Just my opinion 😎 - Taz.
HPA, what's your take on the EPA Act? Will we even be able to use such parts in the near future? Would be cool to see a video on this topic. We got to stand united in this.
@Roc sti it didn't pass? Well, that's good news. Political overreach is always a bad thing. In this particular case, it was senseless anyway, considering what little impact these emissions have. I'm not located in the US, but if I were, I would certainly vote red, yes! I'm from Germany, and I can tell you what political overreach is doing in the endgame.
I can't remember a time when there weren't rules I had to follow to have a street-legal performance vehicle to be honest. I am located in New Zealand, but we still have rules too and as we all get older there seem to be more and more of them. Just part of the game. HPA wise, we don't see this going away & the US industry is working to adapt to the new landscape every day - Taz.
@High Performance Academy Thank you, Taz, for your reply. I appreciate your way of thinking, but I also believe big companies as HPA and others do have the responsibility to represent the customer and stand up for their rights has their voice as more weight than ours. Again, I am from Germany, and tuning cars is so hard, and in some cases, next to impossible. And it is getting worse and worse. I believe the endgame will be the complete destruction of private car ownership. Sure, you will still be able to lease or maybe buy a car, but you won't be able to do anything to it. Not my definition of ownership. This is where it will end for countries like the US, Australia, etc. if you guys are not careful. Here in Germany, we have little to no aftermarket industries. In the US, this is a billion dollar industry. If they get similar rules, like Germany (and the RPM act would have been the start of it), not only we, the customers, will suffer. But also companies and employees. So be careful which freedoms the government takes away from you. Just my 2 cents. Best Regards
@@dj4monie and what? You don't need a aftermarket block to do that with a Barra. The money you spend on that block alone you can be rolling 1000hp barra.