Vader wins, of course, but I think Ahsoka is high difficulty she was his apprentice, and she held her own in Rebels she's a master combatant in her own right.
@@jamesrevere2992 its obiwan what did you expect and he could have killed him the 2nd time but he didnt and sidious?? bruh vader killed that old hag and read the comics to see what vader really is
he only gets whooped because he allows him to in disney canon Sidious and Vader are equal in ROTJ Sidious is slightly more powerful due to his mastery in the dark side but Vader is a better duelist and he is no slouch either the more angry he gets the more powerful he becomes@@jamesrevere2992
@@GhostUnderTheLight-bi1ekKilling someone hardly means being stronger than them, specially considering Sidious ended up surviving. On a score of how many times each of them beat each other Sidious is winning by a huge margin
@@MUI_Shaggy01 May I remind you, Ahsoka wasn’t trying to kill Vader, believing Anakin was still under there. But, had she had cut deeper into his mask, she could have easily skinned him. She chose not to. If Vader had ever reached his peak, he could have easily won against her. But, after Obi-Wan defeated him on Mustafar, he lost a lot of Midichlorians and his potential power had gone down a lot. Because of that, Vader never reached his peak. His peak would have been all powerful and could’ve snapped anyone. But he never peaked, so Ahsoka could still challenge.
@@MUI_Shaggy01 agreed. Obviously, you’ll win some battles and lose some battles. I think it just so happens that Ahsoka could have possibly won this one. And some people think Ahsoka beats Maul, but I don’t think so. When she fought Maul, she was using all ehr power and Maul wasn’t. Maul wasn’t trying to kill her because he still wanted her to join him.
Thing is, Vader beats her in most points in a strict "who is better" Context. If you were to rate stuff like 0-5 stars Ahsoka would probably do pretty good. She is good, just not as good as Vader
What some people forget in the new lore is that Vader's suit amps up his power in the dark side, that's part of Disney lore now. Vader's suit makes him more powerful. The more pain he endures the suit makes him stronger from such pain and discomfort. The suit causes Vader to suffer. It's also much like Vader to toy with his opponent to test their skills and abilities. Rebels isn't prime Vader a lot of people tend to forget that. Episode V was where he was at his absolute peak. This is comparing Episode V's version of Vader to Ahsoka at her prime in Mando Season 2. The time where Episode V is Vader has done everything in the comics leading up to Empire Strikes Back and Vader has already hunted down the other remnants of the Jedi besides Yoda, Luke, and maybe a few others. Plus Vader was holding back against Ahsoka in Rebels if he didn't hold back he would've mopped the floor with her. Kenobi takes 10 years after Episode 3 and you literally see him tear apart a ship with the force alone, and if it wasn't for Obi-Wan's allies, Vader would've literally killed Obi-Wan and burned him alive or do whatever he saw fit. After his loss to Obi-Wan, Vader trained to become much more powerful and Rebels is 4-5 years after Kenobi. (Yes it is 4-5 because Ezra is 14-15 and so is Leia along with Luke because Ezra is confirmed to be 2 days older than both of them.) Plus Vader's power and sheer feats alone from the comics that are connected to Rebels and the Disney Star Wars timeline shows that Vader would beat Ahsoka easily.
@@Greeks332 like I said it depends on equipment because they are similar in terms hand to hand combat, and Rex is a commando, so his weapons include a squad of clones
It’s not about the “13>3” cause although Vader got the point, it doesn’t mean it was by much. It just means he’s better in that regard. Ahsoka would give him a tough fight
Vaders truth strength was litterally is ability with his lightsaber his force powers where his bonus, he mastered all 7 forms of lightsaber combat and even tuned them so he could use all 7 with in the restrictions of his suit, he also invented his own style djem-so if I believe Idk if that's correct, so he could fight within the limitations that he suit gave him truly the strongest.
Let Ahsoka have speed, nobody is saying Vader is slow by any means. HE DEFINITELY is not slow. However Ahsoka’s entire fighting style is all about speed and agility, using her smaller stature to quickly move around similar to Yoda. She’s a tad faster and more agile.
Not true in rebels it was a statement and vader got the worse of it if the fight continued he most lively would have died even if he had won it still would be extreme diff and thats not even prime ashoka
I feel like the numbers system doesn’t make sense in most cases. Yes Vader beats her in almost every category, but it is not by a ton and doesn’t show that it would be a really good fight.
Could Vader best the Tarkovsky version of Grevious, the killing machine that stalked and was able to easily deal with full fledged Jedi masters at the same time? The one that moves faster than Jedi can use the force on it and the one that learns your combat style just by fighting you nearly instantly.
Vader would kill Grievous, doesn't matter whether it's the OP Tarkovsky version or the nerfed version. My evidence for this conclusion comes from the Tarkovsky cartoons themselves, from the scene where Dooku is training General Grievous. Dooku tells Grievous that if he is to ensure victory over his opponent, Grievous must have fear, surprise, and intimidation on his side, breaking his opponent's spirit before the fight even starts. If he is lacking in any of those three elements, Grievous should retreat. That's how Grievous was able to kill several masters at once in that scene. All of them were intimidated by Grievous' appearance, while Grievous relied on sneak attacks to begin his attack to catch them off guard. Once he had killed one of their numbers, the Jedi remaining began to give into fear and despair. Grievous would have no such advantage against someone like Vader. Vader would not be in the least intimidated by Grievous, nor would he fear him. I doubt you could catch Vader off guard either. Vader's a tank and one of the best duellists in the Galaxy, he would probably toy with Grievous for a minute or two before then using the Force to crush him. Vader's in a different league.
Vaders lightsaber form was a hybridized version of Form V Djem So, that incorporated all 7 known forms of saber combat. Vader was a master of all 7 forms and knew ways how to counter them and the weakness that they've had. Due to Vader also able to change the length of his saber in a duel as well it makes his saber style unpredictable to the opponents he would fight. Even EU Grievous would struggle against the hybridized form of Vaders saber form. It's why so many skilled duelists lost to Vader is because of his unique dueling style. Just like how Mace made his own version of Form VII Juyo, Vader made his own version of Form 5 which uses all known forms of saber dueling. Which makes Vader a literal force to be reckoned with when in a duel.
It’s high diff, because based on rebels, where Vader was also amped btw, she held her own and even cut off half his mask. She will lose, but High diff.
No mid diff is valid. Ahsoka isn’t weak in the force. And secondly just as Vader may know Ahsoka’s every move it’s safe to assume Ahsoka knows his too. Taking in to account she was his padawan & all. Plus we’ve seen them fight & Ahsoka held her own. (Although they both we’re probably holding back)
@@jisoostwin3572 no he did kill her, when Ezra pulled her away you see in that exact moment Vader was about to behead her, after he brings his sabre down the blast doesn’t happen for another second. Vader beheaded Ahsoka in that original scene, the blast never killed her, he did.
I'm not a simp, but after watching all star wars cannon, I think Ahoska will win but it will cost her a lot, she was his padawan besides, in rebels Ahsoka could kill Vader when she cuts his mask, no mention that she's faster and even considering the good as hell defence of Vader he is actually fragile for his basically destroy body, not for nothing Ahsoka have tie Ventres, Grevious, and Vader beat Maul, and like 4 inquisitors, resist Darth Sidious,
She wasn't Vader's padawan - she was Anakin's Vader is very different to Anakin especially in how he duels and how he thinks Not to mention Vader is one of the most powerful Sith lords of all time and while cutting open his mask may weaken him it can only anger him more making him more ruthless
Come on guys Darth Vader is on another league enterly!! Ashoka win only in agility probably since vader is half machine so more heavy but for ther others Vader is on another League... The only chanche she had is that Vader feel sorrow and dont go all out or Ashoksa would died very quickly...
