Das Pferd mit Ginger Baker und Randy Brecker 1988 Randy Brecker - Trompete Wolfgang Schmidtke - Saxofone Markus Wienstroer - Gitarre Tobias Becker - Keyboards Jan Kazda - Bass Ginger Baker - Schlagzeug Achim Grebien - Schlagzeug
I had the pleasure of being GINGER BAKERS Bodyguard for one night at the Schaefer music festival in central Park. One of my friends who worked with me during the day at LORD AND TAYLOR SECURITY DEPARTMENT also worked at the Schaefer music festival.he told me to come over the night that GINGER and BUDDY MILES were playing he didn't show up and I got the Job for one night and it was a great experience. GINGER Was really nice and when he got into the limousine he looked at me and said THANKS MATE. 😮❤
Ginger Baker hatte einen Bodyguard? Als ich Ginger Baker mal traf, er stand ganz alleine da.... Ich hätte ihn theoretisch umbringen können. Wo warst du denn da?😅👎
Been a Baker fan since his early days and I'm now 71. I played drums and tried to emulate his style.This is my first time seeing, hearing this awesome performance. What a player.. RIP and maybe meet soon Sir.
Ginger (and Jack Bruce) were in the Graham Bond Organisation... this band was the catalyst for the developing jazzy/fusion/ rocky type of sounds being worked on in mid to late 60s. Cream added a bluesy side.... what a brilliant time for music !!!
By the time Blind Faith came around I was done with Baker. He was great in Cream, and I saw them a number of times, but what was he going to add to Blind Faith? Then I saw them live, and once again, he blew me away. Years - decades - later, I'm driving along and playing the radio, and on comes this song about a dress, and I'm ass-kicked by the powerful drums. What new band has a guy this good? It's Baker; he answered an ad in LA for a band called *"Masters of Reality."* Turn up your sound as loud as you can, and get the full force of his badassness, and the best tom-toms ever: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-beyj3BE7RPY.html
Early 70s outside the Cream Cheese bar/ club in the Dusseldorf altstadt , having a smoke (as you do) and who pulls, right next to me,.... its only Ginger Baker. He got out, had a bit of the craic for 10 minutes... real nice memory.
Arguably one of the greatest drummers of all time. Arguably the most likely to get into an argument with in the first place. Can't help but to forgive his short fuse. RIP Ginger!
Ginger baker sucked both as a drummer and as a human being. I’ve been playing drums a long time and I watch Baker he is the most overrated drummer of that era.
@@louismastrangelo3781 He definitely didn't "suck," but I totally agree that people who haven't been exposed to many genres beyond rock overrate him constantly.
Ginger Baker war natürlich nicht einer "der größten Schlagzeuger aller Zeiten". Wer das denkt, hat einfach keine Ahnung... Okay, er war natürlich kein schlechter Drummer, aber aus heutiger Sicht... Heutzutage gibt es so hervorragende Schlagzeuger... Alleine wie schnell die mit den Füssen sind. Egal ob im Metalbereich, im Jazzbereich, oder Progressiv-Bereich. Das ist nun einmal so... Aber und das gebe ich gerne zu, Virtuosität ist nicht immer alles... Da spielen auch noch andere Faktoren eine Rolle.
Always liked gingers playing..between him..and eric and jack..they uped the anti..as far as being real players..and not the lalypop..back ground players who did all the work..they were truly tjeCREAM of the crop!! After 67..everyone devided to really learn music!! And not just fake it!!!
That's too bad because if you are into drumming then you know Ginger is one of the top rock drummers but in the jazz and fusion world he would be about average. All his idols are jazz drummers btw.
If ,Chick Corea, or Wayne Shorter or and Yes Miles did this also. Then, the comments may change some. Thelonious Monkenstein said: "There are No wrong Notes " I've heard and seen all the Jazz Drummers as I am one also. Would rather Listen to Ginger than Gadd. any day . Yes, because I saw and Heard "Cream" up close .To this friggin day .It was one of the Best shows ,Band ,withstanding a Tsunami. Fuck.
I've seen him about five times? I saw him many years ago when he was so out of his face he had to be carried on the stage with a roadie under each armpit. I thought "oh no... this is going to be a car crash" - it wasn't, he played great! Years later I saw him as an old man. He was off illegal drugs, but because of his arthritic spine, he was dosed out of his head on pain killers instead! Still played great ;)
minuteman: I was fortunate to see him in '89 on tour w/ Jack Bruce. The first set was all Jack, new songs, plus a few Cream songs. with a different drummer. Set #2 was all old Cream music with Baker drumming his ass off. Too bad the 3rd Cream member wasn't there, eh ??
I saw that same show twice that yr.(?) At the Coach House, San Juan Caprisano, Ca. & the following month at the Ventura(Ca.) Theater. Do u recall the guitarist? An unknown youngster. Lmk. We called the band ⅔'s Cream. It was our only live experience w/ our idolized heroes. Between those 2 shows, we saw Clapton at the Pacific Amphitheater. Jack Bruce Band was the better concert. We got to see a Ginger Baker drum solo. Twice. Whoo-ya!
It's interesting (to me) how Baker is best known for Cream and Blind Faith, and always will be known as one of the great "rock" drummers, but spent the *bulk* of his career after the 1960s making some of the best world music, African-inspired music, and jazz. This is an excellent example.
The audience for this stuff is small though, he's always going to be better known for the more accessible rock stuff. As far as the average music fan is concerned, Ginger just disappeared after Blind Faith, because they would never listen to this stuff even if they knew it existed.
@@PutItAway101 Yes, this is true. I just think it's ironic. And it's also kind of brave, it its own way, because Baker followed his muse without caring about rock star success after Cream. He didn't have as big an audience, but he played what he loved.
I don't get the appeal of Baker's playing at all, but of course it's a subjective reckoning, just like the opinions of those who like his playing. Each to his own taste.
Kinda true but I don't think he got diagnosed with COPD until his late 60's which is fucking increidble cause he chain smoked literallly for 60+ years@@SAHBfan
Plus his degenerative osteoarthritis was from all that soda leaching calcium from his bones, smoking and all the bones he broke thorughout his life. He has broke his collar bone and most all of his rips in the past from polo! Still its amazing he didn't get anymore "more" serious@@SAHBfan
@@tonylast9181 But on here he does indeed look like having 22 and 24... the ten lugs on the smaller kick is the giveaway! Also the toms look like 13-14 instead of his usual 12-13 setup.
Ginger does a good job here. But there are a couple of times when he fumbles a bit, especially around the 6.20 mark. I think fell off a bit because he overdid the playing on the tom toms.
Ginger is very good but his solos tend to all be based around using the same tried and tested Afro rhythm tom pattern over and over. Not saying he doesn't play it well but i'd like to hear a wider range of patterns from him.
come on dude. elvin jones, art blakey, and tony williams (post miles) also did the same thing...they played their signature motifs and ideas through an improvisational lens. nobody complains about them playing a "wider range of patterns". listen to the whole discography of those drummers and you will eventually recognize the same ideas played over and over and over in many renditions. it's not that they COULDN'T play more, but when you hear them play you know exactly who it is. I have never heard anybody but ginger baker play quarter notes on the left bass drum, eighth notes on the right bass drum, and mixed quarter and eighth note triplets against that to create those 4-3 and 6-4 layered polyrhythms. he treated the kit like a drum ensemble ala west african drumming.
What’s this one called? KlunkY? It’s very KlunkY, It’s like they want to be Weather Report but they couldn’t use that name so they had to name their band..... KlunkY.
Exactly - except I didn't get to Baker's solo; had to stop the horrible sounds. But I guess I didn't miss a lot, Baker's solos were never interesting. Always the same pap-pappelap-pappelappelap-papap. But he did good with Baker Gurwits Army. I like that a lot.
@@MeBallermani got a lot of doubt that you are capable to write and learn music or play some instrument . Your opinion is incompetent, because this is free form music and is of an higher level of your idols justin bieber and bts. So you cant understand
@@user-jg9pk2yy2d I'm sure it was a lot of fun to play this set, but I don't find it nice to listen to. Of course, some days are different than other days. In general, I dislike wind instruments, they get to my nerves I can't play music, only a little drums, but never had a kit, so... However; if I were a Bieber-fan, or pop-fan, I wouldn't have come to a Baker vid, would I? Is Bieber especially bad? People always make fun of him.
How can anyone who was as stoned as Baker was for most of his career be a crabby , irritating , irritable hump for most of his life ? I always thought that the weed was a peaceful and tranquil aid to calm you down ? Laugh a little ! Enjoy life and other people ....
And Bonham wasn't Baker. Different guys, different styles - it isn't a championship tournament. Baker always was far more versatile than Bonham, covering far more styles and genres of music - great though Bonham was he basically played one style in one group.
Musical m@sturbation. And Ginger's playing, timing and double-bass drums are off here. At least in the first 15 minutes. I can't take any more of this wank-fest.
It must be said that it takes biiiiig balls to wank that far. And that "off" imho is made on purpose, in many ways it reminds me the peculiar way he played "Sunshine of your love" with the snare and the bass drum beats not where one would expect.
Brass and horns are horrible. HORRIBLE. How can anybody listen to that. It sounds awful. A pain in the ears. Making these sounds one self could be funny, just to harass people, but listening to it, and claiming it sounds "nice" or "good"? C'mon guys, it's torture.
