Sure those who give me thumb up here currently work as BA or know BA role really well cuz we all know nowadays the huge expectation are put on BA shoulder lol we should collectively ask for RAISE for this role
Indeed, I study Business Analytics and I actually also do everything a 'data analist' does according to this video (as well as what the business analist does according to this video)
You’re amazing. You compile information that is out there on the internet but only someone in the industry can properly dissect and answer questions and nuances for. It’s the knowledge we seek
@@AlexTheAnalyst Difference between corporate speak, professor speak, and field level speak. People in the nitty gritty of things who have well rounded experiences on their back can provide the most nuance.
Many business schools teach their students R/Python, Tableau/Power BI, Data Modeling, and Excel as part of their business analytics major. Just thought I should let you know since your Skills slide could make you think otherwise. Great video and thanks for explaining the difference!
One of the reasons I am pursuing a DA Position is because I love technical and mentally stimulating work. I enjoy things that cause me to thing, no matter how tedious. I don’t like work that I can easily go on autopilot to do. And also, learning the tech side is really, really fulfilling! Thanks for this insight. I feel like this would be a good fit for me.
This is literally my first comment on any RU-vid video. I had to go out of my way and thank you for your videos. I'm a BA (first year) that was hired internally within the company i work for and i have always struggled with even the basic functions of excel - I've been on the hunt of trying to figure out which way is best for me to grow, whether enrolling in masters degree, taking on certificates etc etc.. Your videos are making it a lot easier for me to make decisions and i hope you know you're probably doing the same thing to thousands of people out there - great work and keep it up :)
@@AlexTheAnalyst Can you please tell me what tools/software does a person uses on a daily basis as a Business Analyst? I will be starting my MS at Arizona State University this fall and want to learn about the tools before starting my graduation. Thank you.
Crazy question - have you ever heard of a Biologist switching over to Data Analytics? From what you've discussed, there is a lot of cross-over in the thought process: identify a question/ problem, collecting and organizing data, using software to make sense of it, and then visualize/ explain it. I can imagine there'd probably be applications on Bioinformatics as well. Thanks!
In my opinion that's totally doable, I know people who landed a job as a Data analyst even after getting their BSC in Biology and or Psychology. It's just matter of learning few new tools and being proficient in SQL and one BI tool like Tableau.
I'm currently completing my Masters in accounting and somehow fell in love with data science and data analysis. So naturally I fell in love with your channel. I hope I can mix the two and do something great.
Get your analytics training then go into FP&A, you will set yourself apart. However, in FP&A, you will need experience with budgeting and forecasting tools as well, like: Adaptive Planning, Hyperion or Cognos..etc. If you want to stick with Accounting, then look into Audit and Forensics, analytics is reshaping those areas. Corporate Accounting, not so much. Plus Forensics is a hot field and experienced practitioners can make upwards of $150/hr to $250/hr on some big cases.
Started with a 1 year course of Business Analyst and I’ll follow it up with Data Analyst. These 2 fields experience a severe shortage of staff in Europe.
Short, sweet, and saving tons of people. I've been being told generalized data analytics is where people should be going, but Business Analytics is where a lot of people intend to go. Thanks for the foresight!
In the world of software or apps, I can certify that this is the case. I think it depends on what your delivery is. For me, the business analyst is that bridge. In my case, I am required to have data modeling skills, Tableau/PowerBI/Qliksense skills and even programming skills (which covers a more large span than what actual data analyst should focus on: Java, C#, Web languages, etc.). While I'm responsible for conveying the requirements to the project team, I also need to perform the solution testing and to deeply analyze data.
I agree. I'm in a role of IT Business Analyst for a bigger county govt. My focus is the financial modules of an ERP, so I definitely feel like I pull from both sides of what Alex is talking about. It helps salary-wise. :-)
Thanks for sharing your ideas. Those two tracks are in my consideration for my master degree and now, I feel that data scientist would be a good choice because I have a bachelor degree with business and DA can provide me with more technical skills .
Thank you so much for these beneficial videos! My summer holiday has just started and I already started taking different courses related to data analytics. Especially this video helped me a lot to choose the right track for myself which will be business analytics😊
Thank you so much for this, Alex. I just found your page and subscribed to it. I'm a 4th year Biological science student self learning Data analytics. So far, I've familiarized myself with Excel, SQL(basic), Python and Tableau. Also, considering that I've done only one math course at school, I'm kind of scared. Any advice for me, please? Thank you.
Sounds like you’re off to a great start! My advice would be to focus on creating a portfolio - just creating a few projects to show your skills. And I would update your resume to make it Data Analysts specific which highlights the skills you mentioned. Hope that helps!
I got a degree in MIS Business Analysis and am having a hard time breaking into a career. So I'm thinking about going back to a 2 year college or cheap state school to learn Java, Python, and really get good at SQL. But I'm also trying to self-learn as much as possible. Thank you for your videos.
Thanks for you channel Alex, I'm a real fan! BTW I'm actually taking a degree in business analytics, and we are pretty tech focused actually with lectures in python with use of pandas, numpy etc. We also learning about databases working with MySQL and working with html to create websites to present the info from a database. Data analyst sounds awesome to me so I hope I can go both ways after I'm done :) Just started on the udemy courses you have recommended, I will try to go though as much as I can throughout the summer! Cheers
Hi! I'm currently in the process of selecting universities for my BA degree and I really hope to find a program that's tech-focused. May I ask at what university you study?
@@dynamitethunderstruck8723 Hi, I study at BI Norwegian business school. The BA has currently been changed to “Data Science of business”, which I’m very happy about
Thank you! It’s very informative. I have MBA with finance & business dev background, but been thinking to shift career as a Data Analyst. Hope you can share more tips about this. Thank you :)
Why not become a financial analyst? You literally have the skills to become one. I as a civil engineer get rejected all the time because I have no degree in something related to finance for financial analyst role and something related to business for business analyst role.
This is why the Rutgers BAIT (Business Analytics and Information Technology) major is so great. It combines the skills you need to become both a Business Analyst and a Data Analyst into one major.
I think your definition of business analysts' responsibilities is based on their duties in the IT (software) industry. In trade and commerce, they do pretty much what you have on both sides for BAs and data analysts.
I agree with this. I'm getting my bachelor's in business analytics and we have to learn everything the data analysts need to know, but we also have to take core business courses such as finance, economics, marketing, etc. Almost all of my business analytics professors were data scientists or do ML research.
I’m a business analyst for a management consulting company and do both of the jobs described in the video under BA title. For tools I use a lot of Excel, PowerBi and some Visio. I think the starting rate for a BA is a bit higher than what’s shown in the video, maybe around 50k, although it’s rare to see an opening for an entry level BA, companies usually require some form of related experience.
@@Paulina-br6tm is a bachelors in business data analytics worth it can we do Masters in computer after it the university I chose Is known for its programming CS classes
Regarding the technical skill, it depends on the school you go to. If you look at the curriculum offered by schools like NYU or WashU, you need to learn both R and Python as well as business courses (Accounting, Operation and/or Finance) for their Business Analytic major.
I have tech skills like R, python, SQL, power BI, MSvDynamics 365 but I will like to work as a Business analyst first before switching to a Data Analyst along the line. Really need to understand business processes and be able to translate customers needs to a data analytics problem. Have a BSc in business information systems.
absolutely, data analyst can replace business analyst in most of the cases and this bring us to a valid question whether it is worth taking a specialized master degree or so in business analytics in the first place
@@manjunathhipparagi8493 Data Analyst and data science is a lucrative career path. You can pursue that if your interest lies in that area. If you're interested more in the project management side with lesser technical work, you can aim towards business analyst
The difference is that 4 BA can create a solid product, ready to be used and with proven market value, ready to sell. 4 DA can make a better solution, but not a better product. Some tech people hate involving "sales mentality" into their work. But even the best products are sold or paid for. BA is for more efficient oriented people, DA is for more creative ones. Also BA requares more multitasking and general business understanding.
Thank you for your post. And you are spot on. I am a clinical business system analyst lead. and part of our requirements are creating the business requirements, functional requirements and non functional requirements. We do not solution that is for the data Analysts. However in Dallas the mid level is around 75k I am at 117K. However I am the clinical lead and been performing this roll starting in 2006. Again thank you for the post
Awesome information. I have a MBA and currently back in school for Computer Science. Nice to know I'll fall right in the middle of these two job titles.
Alex, I am 2 weeks away from a learning program at TAMU. A 6 month training program to earn certificates towards Data Analytics. I’m super excited and nervous. I will continue to watch your videos for direction and information. Thank you brother for the inspiration
Do not take the data analysis course recommended by him from google. Bc it’s google, the course mainly use google sheets while most businesses use excel. Also, instructions isn’t clear in the lesson. And when you get stuck, there is a community but it’s no help. No one is there to answer your question
Wow Alex, so glad I found your videos! Was just searching for how to best utilize Linkedin for gaining a job and then turns out I find your video about Linkedin and you're a Data Analyst - what I'm taking courses in now, haha! And in Coursea, so I'll be watching your other videos on their courses next to see what you have to say! This video is super helpful, as I want to work remotely. I've been living out of the US and really am hoping to land a job that will allow me to work outside the US. I am an extrovert and have many soft skills related to the Business Analyst position that I would LOVE, but I figured a position as a Data Analyst would be more likely to allow me to be completely remote (i.e. dealing with tech team and mainly staff vs. dealing with clients). Would you agree? Do you think it would be possible to get a completely remote position as a Data Analyst? If you have any insight, I'd really love to hear and maybe even talk with you sometime if that's a possibility!
This 5 minute video is extremely useful than 1000 other videos which trying to give same information . I was searching for these two jobs and couldn't get precise information like this anywhere else.. This is really helpful for many people and really support you. Thanks a lot for making such a valuable video. I would like to know, business analysis and operations course can bring me to business analyst role ( currently I have 6 years of work experience as system analyst + btech in computer science ) or MBA is mandatory? Would be really helpful if you can answer to my query. Thanks in advance. 🙏
I'm so glad to hear that! If your in the US an MBA is really not necessary. I am not sure if it'll be necessary if you're coming from outside the US though. The requirements may be higher?
The only problem with this is that since degrees are becoming worthless except in law and medicine where it makes sense, the only things you need to know are how to use 1-3 Softwares for data analysis to create visualizations, soft skills because if people don't like you you aren't getting hired, and plenty of portfolio items you can make off of the internet for free from samples to prove your case. The rest sounded solid!
Well I personally don't think degrees are becoming worthless. Maybe diluted since a lot more people are getting them, but nevertheless it is beneficial to have. Thanks for watching!
@@AlexTheAnalyst IBM, Apple, Facebook, even Google the platform you and I are using, all of the biggest tech companies are not requiring degrees anymore. Trump just signed into law that all federal hiring doesn't require degrees anymore. This all points to skill based learning meaning degrees are worthless at this point. You can't refute that because everyone is literally doing it.
thank you so much that what I am looking for straight to the point information and simple easy presenting in 4 minutes yes please. now I am a new subscriber keep it up. thanks, youtube for the recommendation.
That was awesome, Alex! Any courses you'd suggest for the position of "Business Analyst" as a fresher or just learning the individual skills would help out? Either way, what's next after learning from the course? Ig no one would hire right away... any personal project that could be done? Don't feel the need to write a lengthy response tho :)
Why am I just seeing this channel? Woww. I love it. This will certainly help me. I don't know if you run any online course on Data Analysis, I would love to take on one. Just subscribed. Thank you
And I've been doing both. I feel like businesses are actually confused or doesn't know that these are different fields/skills. I've been in 2 different companies and both are requiring me to do both.
Haha! Well I'm sorry to hear that, but I feel you on feeling in-between. My first job I was doing everything from working closely with clients and management to writing the actual reports in SQL. Felt like a business analyst and data analyst combined.
I have these both skillset.. Sometimes, I am comparing which is better for me to pursue. But for me both are fine. Maybe the factor also based what is more in demand based on the corporate world needs.
I can earn a graduate certificate in Business Analytics which includes SAS actually. I intend to become a data analyst, but considering I'm a Journalism bachelor's of science, I may have more foundation in business analytics. Also I want to dabble in data journalism for trade publications. Ultimately I want to hover around the cutting edge of data science as I earn and learn.
Hi Alex, great video, clearly communicated. I have a question. Who then looks at the data, makes meaningful association/mining, and then identify potential business opportunities with it? As an example, by looking at the data you realised that you have a very strong case to cross-sell or upsell to the client. In this instance, there is no "problem" to solve, but realisation of business opportunity. I suppose we need a new category of job? Data Miner? Haha. Appreciate your input.
Nice video Alex. What would be the easiest pathway to get an entry-level job in Data Science/Analytics? I have zero knowledge and background in coding/programming/computer science but eager to shift my career into DS/DA. I'm currently working in finance.
I am working as an Inventory analyst in British telecom for Nestle and my role includes both the roles and responsibilities you have mentioned for data and business analyst.
BA does the gap analysis. They look at the current processes and suggest new processes. They need information from different departments how they conduct their businesses. So explain how data is applicable here? The data that u are referring to and what most companies are interested in are the numbers? What age group use our products ? How much sales we make in silicon Valley vs small town
I have my bachelor’s degree in mathematics and I am currently working on my master’s degree in business analytics... thank you for this video. I feel like I could go either way with my degrees
Another great video Alex! I have a stutter and this video made it clear to me that BA is definitely not for me. Do you have any colleagues who stutter in your team? Does everyone have to make presentations in order to present the findings, or there are always some people who worked on the project but stay in the "back" during the presentation?
anelnp hey anelnp, I don’t think a stutter is a dealbreaker by any means. It’s more about how you deliver the information and how organized you are. Communication is definitely key, but I don’t believe it that a stutter should hold you back. There are other roles that don’t have to present, but basically all roles will have to communicate in stand ups/meetings.
Good day Mr Alex, I just stumbled on your channel and am really enjoying your videos. I want to have a change of career into the business field and I am really interested in business analytics for a start. What advice and videos can you recommend for me although I dont have a technical background yet.
Yet another incredibly helpful video! A few questions: - I have found myself in a position where I, as well as my bosses, would consider myself both a business AND data analyst. Is there one you think I should default to market myself as or would you say is more of a case-by-case basis (ie depending on the job I'm applying for)? - It looks like SQL is pretty much a requirement to be a legitimate candidate in either field, is this safe to say? As of right now, my programming expertise lies only in Microsoft VBA (I excel at Excel). - What do you think are the differentiators between entry and mid level? Years experience, qualifications, tenure? Thanks again for your help (and go pirates)!
Hey Sam! I think it depends. If you have a business background (MBA or comparable) I might want to be labeled as a business analyst because with that educational background you might be able to excel in with that title more than a data analyst. If you're looking at it to earn the most money I would say data analyst. Yes, you would most likely need SQL in both positions. I think the biggest factor is domain knowledge and years experience. If you have 5 years experience in a certain industry you would definitely be mid-level. But if you have 5 years experience and are moving to anew industry you don't know then you may still be entry/mid. Hope that helps! Arrg!
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I am a business and data analyst, and i suppose that business analyst should take higher salary, understanding management and work flow has experience with dealing with customers and company's departments and his team. I think his recommendations and actions have the business sense if we comapre them to data analyst presented,, Technical skills are easier to learn and apply more than life, work and people experiences
As a person who is pursuing a master degree in business analyst, I have to take all technical courses like Python, SAS, Big Data, SQL, etc., only a few technical courses less than a Data Analyst.
Finding it very hard to break into either field despite having a BS in Business Administration, an dual major MBA in Business Analytics and Operations Management, and having advanced experience with Power BI, Excel, SQL. and Python. And it seems many firms blend the duties and responsibilities of BAs, DAs, and PMs together as if they fall under one role or title.
Hey Alex, I am learning data analytics by myself I'm going good so far but I'm stuck in Excel (formulas, formats etc) can I skip it or at least tell me what is the most important thing in Ms Excel. BTW Your videos are mind-blowing Thanks
I would definitely learn the basics - data types, pivot tables, conditional formatting, macros, and formulas. I think those are used very often and are important to know. Thanks! I really appreciate it and appreciate you watching!
Hi Alex! Thank you so much for this video 🙏🏼 Just wondering, i hava a friend that worked in hotel as a revenue analyst. Is that position tend to data analyst or business analyst ?
