Listening to Zhamak is like hearing a professor speak about theoretical physics, in which things may or may not exist, but with some lovely language used to define the framework by which we need to categorize information. Listening to Jason is like listening to a Kindergarten teacher explain why we need numbers and what they are. These two don't belong in the same discussion and aren't on the same level. Jason's understanding of DG is so fundamentally flawed that it borders on heresy. Beyond his understanding, he's just a horrible speaker...this detracts from Zhamak's contribution to the discussion.
To me it was a very organic and valuable discussion. Jaison is a Governance practitioner and he gave very valuable and honest input from his experience in the weeds. It is easy to speak about a theory but practical implementation and talking honestly about is difficult. Also this is not a talk show to judge them based on their art but the content they bring up!
