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Dave Edits Out a Joke on Letterman, March 25, 1987 

Don Giller
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Perhaps one of the more surreal moments on the show: Dave's unhappy with a joke he's told during his opening remarks, so he and Pete Fatovich go downstairs to the videotape editing room and instruct Videotape Editor Fran Cimino to splice it out.
As to the joke:
The context: Cybill Sheperd had been a spokeswoman for the beef industry at the time.
The deleted punchline:
"How this works is that they both get drunk on the wine cooler, and Cybill says she would like some meat."

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Комментарии : 67   
@andyrose5616
@andyrose5616 4 года назад
I recently bumped into Fran Cimino in a Facebook group and asked her about this. Here is her response: "yes.. actually that was one of the last days i worked on letterman.. i was pregnant with my second son and this was dave's "gift" to me, as we were paid for speaking appearance.. needless to say, i am terribly afraid of "on camera" appearances..."
@danieldougan269
@danieldougan269 5 лет назад
Dave was a maniac. I feel like he lost a lot of his edge when he moved to the 11:30 timeslot on CBS and had to appeal to a broader audience. His NBC show was a work of art.
@davidmeichner8346
@davidmeichner8346 2 года назад
Dave was unlike anything on TV.
@sadiehallinger1401
@sadiehallinger1401 5 лет назад
This is what Television should be. I'm glad it existed in my lifetime. Thanks for sharing!
@tastyjay
@tastyjay 2 года назад
I just LOVE when they take the camera around 30 Rock. It give a permanence to the time and place of the show. Really fascinating. Also love how he set him up for the "cold shoulder and hot tongue" joke. Goddamn, I loved this show.
@singlesideman
@singlesideman 6 лет назад
This is so meta my brain hurts.
@mikeavguy
@mikeavguy 7 лет назад
I really enjoyed that, Don. You're a tremendous archivist. Thanks for posting it.
@dongiller
@dongiller 7 лет назад
I dunno about that, but thanks. :)
@ericpark8784
@ericpark8784 2 года назад
@@dongiller you’re a f’n master archivist, sir
@RichfilmsRL
@RichfilmsRL 3 года назад
Saw it when it aired, never forgot it, found it trippy. Great post...
@voicetube
@voicetube 5 лет назад
This really illustrates how INCREDIBLY REVOLUTIONARY… nonlinear editing ended up really changing the industry! Now, yeah, one could actually cut AUDIO tape with a razor blade (in some instances) & splice, but with a videotape, I think because the heads are so delicate (WERE so delicate, sorry… LOL!) you couldn't really splice videotape but would have to bounce to ANOTHER tape - CRAZY just thinking about the difference between then and now.
@AlBundyOz
@AlBundyOz 3 года назад
Yep! Needed about 500kg of equipment just to do a location stand up.... Now all you need is a mobile phone - which is more powerful than the $50,000 ENG kits!! Robotic studio cameras.....it's all gone to hell.
@Nicedesk
@Nicedesk 2 года назад
Actually you could cut videotape and make a frame accurate edit that would maintain video sync, I believe it was possible on 2" formats because they were not helical scan. You needed a magnifying glass or microscope(or something..I forget) to see where the frame was recorded onto the tape and literally sliced the tape between the frame infomation "blocks" and taped the backside of the videotape together. Later video formats were helical scan, meaning the frames of video were laid down at angle (so more information would fit onto a given height of tape), so cutting straight across the tape would destroy a frame of information, and probably create other problems. An experienced video engineer explained all this to me when I first started in television production.
@voicetube
@voicetube 2 года назад
@@Nicedesk wow, I did not know that. Fascinating. I seem to recall that most editors would use multiple machines and do the copy/transfer technique etc.
@Nicedesk
@Nicedesk 2 года назад
@@voicetube ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JR2JJTZTTIs.html maybe interesting for you. This footage was shot on film, then transferred to video tape and physically cut for edits.
@voidgap
@voidgap Год назад
I'm glad Dave confirmed that he show always sticks to the tape.
@michaelstein7850
@michaelstein7850 4 года назад
I worked for a small station in Canada in 2005, and the station still had this type of tape recorder in use.
@albertdesigncompany6964
@albertdesigncompany6964 6 лет назад
Pete doesn't understand that things work even better for Dave when things don't work.
@GENETICANGRY
@GENETICANGRY 7 лет назад
Don this footage you have been posting is amazing. Always loved Letterman but missed the Late Night show completely. Too young I guess. Thanks alot.
@dongiller
@dongiller 7 лет назад
I've been hearing that a lot these days -- folks either too young or too far away to have been aware of Dave's NBC years. I find that amazing and am gratified you and they are now seeing this stuff. It's what made Dave famous, and it's what got him to his CBS show.
@GENETICANGRY
@GENETICANGRY 7 лет назад
it's so good. hope to see more weird stuff like this coming...fits my humor perfectly and i can see why conan kept that style while on late night. seemed like when dave went to cbs the show changed, or at least i'm assuming that. guess that's growin up tho
@sk8terboi10003
@sk8terboi10003 5 лет назад
I vaguely remember Dave on NBC as a very young child I'm 32 now
@helgedell
@helgedell 4 года назад
@@dongiller You're also creating a vault of treasures for the ones of us who are borned and live in countries that didnt air these show and only knows Lettermans shows from the last 10-15 years. Thanks.
@JayDeeIsMyName
@JayDeeIsMyName 2 года назад
I wrote an article about the Dutch TV Archives and how workflow has changed over the years since, and I just had to share this one little video on there. Thanks Don 😄
@jamessmithe5490
@jamessmithe5490 4 года назад
K Mart remnants; he had a genuine grudge against GE
@johnnyballenatl
@johnnyballenatl 5 лет назад
These days, everything is recorded onto drives, which makes editing out any jokes that bombed (even if it’s minutes before broadcast) a breeze. But for posterity’s sake, they’re still archived to tape.
@richardyoon4209
@richardyoon4209 6 месяцев назад
Dave in his sneakers was always peak Dave to me.
@JackRainfield
@JackRainfield 5 лет назад
Thanks for your work Don. I wonder if the Fugitive Guy idea came from Pete Basil?
@janjohansenmusic
@janjohansenmusic 3 года назад
Fran’s baby is 34 now 😀
@voicetube
@voicetube 3 года назад
That's science fictiony!
@Nicedesk
@Nicedesk 2 года назад
Doing a segment like this was so technically complicated in 1987 that it required smart people at most levels of production and lots of money to execute. Not so much nowadays.
@USALeonHeart
@USALeonHeart 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, thinking about this being filmed live to tape and then EDITED in real time as well is just sickeningly complex to consider. My dad worked in this field for USAF broadcasting and I'd imagine this shit blew him away at the time.
@sayhibobbi
@sayhibobbi 5 лет назад
2:59 There's a news team: Chuck Scarborough, Jack Cafferty, Sue Simmons, and Pat Harper.
@VillemarMxO
@VillemarMxO 5 лет назад
Just like the Palace of Versailles!
@RageTVHTX
@RageTVHTX 6 лет назад
Damn dude youve got it all! I remember watching this and i noticed the skip in the video and soon afterwards we're taken down into the videotape room to see exactly what happened. What confused me was that were seeing this all unfold as its being recorded but Fran was able to wind back the tape and edit out the joke. Wasnt all of this being recorded onto the same tape?
@dongiller
@dongiller 6 лет назад
I asked Brian McAloon, who sat next to Pete Fatovich about this. He told me that they had 4 videotapes going to make sure this little bit worked.
@RageTVHTX
@RageTVHTX 6 лет назад
Cool. Thanks for that info
@dontrockwobble
@dontrockwobble 6 лет назад
Ah, at first I thought Dave called an audible here but it makes more sense that the bit was pre-planned. Just curious though, what would have happened if the joke didn't tank?
@johnnyballenatl
@johnnyballenatl 4 года назад
So one of them is the “master tape” with the bombed joke and another is the “edited master” (the one that was broadcast) without.
@dunebasher1971
@dunebasher1971 3 года назад
It took careful planning and rehearsal to make this bit look spontaneous. Of course, anyone who worked in TV would have known what was involved.
@jeffreyfletcher1780
@jeffreyfletcher1780 3 года назад
I downloaded the video, edited it on iMovie.
@clickr73
@clickr73 Год назад
Classic Dave on remote camera 📹!
@JDtheEE
@JDtheEE 3 года назад
Her baby has probably graduated College and well into it's career.
@jpetes9046
@jpetes9046 2 года назад
The “baby” is now 35 years old!
@dianewinters8628
@dianewinters8628 2 года назад
Cool process
@funeralbillii9172
@funeralbillii9172 6 лет назад
Fran's Baby is now 31!!
@EricJMontoya
@EricJMontoya 6 лет назад
Fran's baby was a still born
@jnadle1
@jnadle1 7 лет назад
Were there other times Dave had to go to the control room or any other place backstage?
@dongiller
@dongiller 7 лет назад
Many, many times.
@sk8terboi10003
@sk8terboi10003 5 лет назад
Dave could go wherever he wanted thats what was great about letterman you never knew what he'd do
@Longshot_NYC
@Longshot_NYC Год назад
Cold shoulder and hot tongue OMG... 4:06
@StevenTorrey
@StevenTorrey 3 года назад
The "baby" would be 34 by now,
@jasonburchett3531
@jasonburchett3531 3 года назад
I just realized when Dave was talking about Bob Villa making screen doors that this was the same episode where Chris Elliot did his epic Paul Shaffer impersonation. Well worth a viewing. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Jackl_uUjGo.html
@dongiller
@dongiller 3 года назад
Shaffer; Paul Shaffer.
@asadashraf2128
@asadashraf2128 3 года назад
Who are they editing out for? 😆
@jnadle1
@jnadle1 7 лет назад
What date was about the first time the intro to the show started with a zoom-in of the building instead of an overhead shot of the lights going out?
@dongiller
@dongiller 7 лет назад
Fifth Anniversary Special, February 7, 1987.
@jnadle1
@jnadle1 7 лет назад
So it was from that point on that the intro was simply zooming through various buildings as well as various other places. Was the 10th Anniversary show the first time we saw 3D computer graphics that would be reworked slightly for most of the final season?
@dongiller
@dongiller 7 лет назад
I plan to put up a compilation of every different LN opening montage. Will document dates then.
@jnadle1
@jnadle1 7 лет назад
OK, thank you.
@NP-ip3nj
@NP-ip3nj 3 года назад
Do you have a compilation of Pete Fadovich saying "Who gives a rat's ass!" ?
@dongiller
@dongiller 3 года назад
I don’t, nor do I see a need for one.
@NP-ip3nj
@NP-ip3nj 3 года назад
@@dongiller Ah well. Thanks for replying.
@abe_froman8360
@abe_froman8360 3 года назад
Cold shoulder and hot tongue LOL
@kathleenlovett1958
@kathleenlovett1958 2 года назад
OMG - 35 YEARS AGO, and I remember it like yesterday (can't remember that either)🥸❤️
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