In a talk to an Israeli group in July, 2010, Sheldon Adelson (Mega Donor) said he wished he had served in the Israeli Army rather the U.S. military-and that he hoped his young son will come back to Israel and “be a sniper for the IDF,” a reference to the Israel Defense Forces. (RU-vid video of speech) “I am not Israeli. The uniform that I wore in the military, unfortunately, was not an Israeli uniform. It was an American uniform, although my wife was in the IDF and one of my daughters was in the IDF … our two little boys, one of whom will be bar mitzvahed tomorrow, hopefully he’ll come back- his hobby is shooting - and he’ll come back and be a sniper for the IDF,” Adelson said at the event. “All we care about is being good Zionists, being good citizens of Israel, because even though I am not Israeli born, Israel is in my heart,” he said toward the end of his talk.
Title is not an idea, its a fact. Israel supported and propped up Hamas, because they didn't want Gaza and the west bank to unite politically. It is documented fact.
Some critical thinking for you: do you think it would be smart to allow violent Palestinian nationalists who don’t believe in Israel’s right to exist to unite? Wonder what you would do in that situation.
When I was in Afghanistan we were paying the Taliban not to attack large scale resupply convoys out of Pakistan so we could Keep fighting the Taliban lol
Why were you in Afghanistan? Where was Osama? While what you experienced was real, it was all fake, a lie. Your friends died to erode American freedoms
He’s everyone’s favorite midwit cherrypicker - plays up every instance of Israeli skepticism about peace, and plays down every honest attempt they made at it
these are half truths at best. There was never a debate (or a secret) in Israel if Netanyahu aided Hamas to retain power to weaken the PLO. But Dave Smith paints it like the intention was to fund terror. Hamas is the de facto government in Gaza, the whole idea was to slowly build up and strengthen Gaza economy slowly in order to make it not worth it for Hamas to risk dissident in its rule due to people having something to lose. This was also said specifically by Hamas leaders after Oct. 7 when they bragged how they fooled him to think that. Dave Smith is using half truths with small lies to push a narrative.
@@aaronspektor2624 No he wouldn't. Shapiro would never even acknowledge the subject, he is far to big of a coward. The facts don't care about your feelings.
@aaronspektor2624 😂😂 Ben Shapiro loses every debate on this topic even when i thought he was cool back in the days. All he has is anti Semitic and israel have the right to exist.
@@aaronspektor2624Ben Shapiro can’t even debate college kids. Or please his wife lol. He just speaks fast and loud. Everything he says is a contradiction.
WILL someone explain to Dave Smith that propping up Hamas is just keeping your enemies close to you. It's keeping control of things. It doesn't mean what he thinks it means.
The Israelis owned onto that mistake immediately and while nothing can bring back a loved one they tried to make restitution to the families. This happened in the middle of a war when no other ships were supposed to be approaching Israeli territory. It was a bad mistake, true, but one that they never denied
@@Larry-p7s3s It was not a mistake. There are recordings od the pilot cleary stating it was an American ship. Israel wanted to frame Egypt. I seem to recall that America was going to attack Egypt but they recalled their fighter jets once they realised what happened. I can't find the proof of that though. I'll try to dig further
@@as3609 Well, as you can probably guess, when you only focus on the Jewish lobbying group you run into puppet master territory and that’s yikes. Also they are not the most powerful. They’re in the news a lot rn but not the most powerful. Lobbying as a whole is the problem.
I feel like there's an awkwardness around this in general, cause it's not a matter of relatively silly, easy stuff like masks or no masks, vaccinations etc., but by taking a clear stance, you're affectively calling the other side defenders (knowing or unknowingly) of genocidal actions. Although mostly unrelated, this issue gets mingled in with culture war stuff as well (the 'woke' stundents and so on, arguments of that sort) - it's clear that people on the right (whose talking points are usually echoed on JRE, although in a more empthatic, libertarian manner) are generally more sympathetic to Israel and could feel alienated. There's something weird about it, for example a stance like Ben Shapiro's seems almost intolerable, if you're trying for a differentiated view on this conflict.
@@christerry1773many things are binary, however it’s extremely difficult to account for all the factors & variables & identify what’s the cause or effect/what’s the symptom or underlying condition. We could never hope to be wise enough to always distinguish reality from our perception. However, I do think it’s good to talk about both sides to assess motives, beliefs, values, etc.
It’s not complicated. Rogan is sounding more and more and more like an establishment stooge. ‘The Gaza genocide could be a ll just an AI fake. And we’re all complete idiots who have led sheltered privileged lives. It’s a bit effin’ rich. Frankly. The new holocaust denial.
@@christerry1773 it’s perfectly ok to remain neutral or abstain from inputting your opinion on certain topics but when it’s a clear cut case of right vs wrong you’ve gotta speak up
Romans, Greeks, Jews, Zionists, Crusaders, Americans, Chinese, Japanese,... Sadly, they've all more or less united into a global plutocracy against the Social Contracts cementing human, civil and property rights.
Arafat and the PLO were terrorists. They never chilled out and advocated for two states in a way that anyone outside the Palestinian fluffers would consider serious. Hamas was the unknown quantity. And then eventually Hamas were the bad PR so the world wouldn’t put ridiculous pressure on Israel to make peace with people sworn to their destruction. You don’t realize the extent to which Palestinians collectively live to avenge 1948.
@@jg5875what??? Are u still 9 years old? Brain only 1/4 can function at a time? Do u ur own fcking search!!! U wouldn't even believe ehat coming out from someone else.
Netanyahu needed Hamas to prevent a 2 state solution. They gave them money and that's been documented. The Israeli gov would not let centrists be in power for Palestinians.
? The Arabs won't allow a 2 state solution. Never have, throughout history. Hence all the wars. Arabs can't allow for a Jewish state. Islam is the reason there isn't a Palestinian state (besides Transjordan that is), not the Jews. This is all fact, and illustrated in the history of the area.
@@michaeleldridge5640 When you tell the pro-Palestine folks that Hamas has always intercepted Gazan aid, they don’t care - they blame Israel. And then when Israel provides aid to Gaza, they accuse Israel of “propping up Hamas.” Clown show. Clueless people everywhere.
It’s not even an “idea” Netanyahu is literally on tape multiple times saying they propped up hamas so it would be more difficult for them to unite with the Palestinians in the West Bank.
What do you think would happen if the people in Gaza and West Bank united? They would sing "Kumbaya" with Israel? Hamas would suddenly change their official charter (the one that openly states their intent to exterminate Israel)? The real world is not a Disney bubble.
Netanyahu’s quote is corroborated by Ami Ayalon (Israel’s ex head of shin bet and ex head of navy) on the video titled “BOMBSHELL: Israel Intelligence Chief Says The Quiet Part Out Loud!” here on RU-vid. Between 2:59 - 3:03 of that video he says “We had to make sure that Hamas will go on controlling Gaza”.
@@jjohn408yes, they put Hamas in as a proxy government initially, something america has done DOZENS of times the world over, and then soon after lost control of them. So fuking what? These strategies were done hundreds of years ago
@@TBass050 if you are not seeing it your either blind or pretending to be blind for personal gains. Otherwise tell me: do you agree for another nation to have the same lobby influence upon America the Jews have over it ? Let us be open. Are you a Jew with dual citizenship?
if you can't see by now you are either blind or pretending to be blind for personal gains. Otherwise tell me: do you agree for another nation to exercise the same lobby influence Israel have upon America? Let us be more open and direct. Are you an Israeli with dual citizenship in America?
@@wisaltan5694 It’s funny how gropers and Islamists have one play when called out - to resort to identity politics. Your name looks pretty Muslim to me - but I don’t care. I’m looking to engage on the facts. We don’t know what is happening behind the scenes with our intelligence community - believe it or not, they don’t tell us everything. Seems that people with axes to grind tend to be prone to the “Israel controls everything” narrative - which is ridiculous. Much of our media and half of our politicians are condemning them. Was that also part of Israel’s plan?
actually no. You clearly don't know Israeli politics. He ran on the campaign that he won't fund them and criticized Bennet who was the first to allow them to receive money from Qatar. Bibi continued that policy when he was elected a year ago only to maintain the status quo but he sure wasn't proud of it. I wish people would not talk about what they don't know
@@DarkArterialGore What do you care? You're already the biggest funder of Hms through UNRWA! At least the Israeli money goes back to purchase American products. The Palestinian money is all underground in tunnels. You guys are too funny...
Propping up Hamas knowing a Palestinian state could be worse is not a win for the other side. if you had to choose between pacifying Al Qaeda and giving a lesser version of them an official state knowing Al Qaeda takes over, you would do the same
In a talk to an Israeli group in July, 2010, Sheldon Adelson (Mega Donor) said he wished he had served in the Israeli Army rather the U.S. military-and that he hoped his young son will come back to Israel and “be a sniper for the IDF,” a reference to the Israel Defense Forces. (RU-vid video of speech) “I am not Israeli. The uniform that I wore in the military, unfortunately, was not an Israeli uniform. It was an American uniform, although my wife was in the IDF and one of my daughters was in the IDF … our two little boys, one of whom will be bar mitzvahed tomorrow, hopefully he’ll come back- his hobby is shooting - and he’ll come back and be a sniper for the IDF,” Adelson said at the event. “All we care about is being good Zionists, being good citizens of Israel, because even though I am not Israeli born, Israel is in my heart,” he said toward the end of his talk.
Netanyahu’s quote is corroborated by Ami Ayalon (Israel’s ex head of shin bet and ex head of navy) on the video titled “BOMBSHELL: Israel Intelligence Chief Says The Quiet Part Out Loud!” here on RU-vid. Between 2:59 - 3:03 of that video he says “We had to make sure that Hamas will go on controlling Gaza”.
He has to show that he's not 100% anti israel otherwise it'd be in all media tomorrow he's an anti-semic who just platformed another anti-semic. So he has to pretend he's being objective, but its obvious he agrees with what Dave says.
There are strings attached lol ….more than half of the aid we give them is repatriated back to the states to buy weapons and replacement parts for their older jets …: they also share intelligence with us and they are the reason why Iran can’t assemble a team of scientists long enough to enrich uranium and make bombs because they have them killed as soon as they find out
Yea AIPAC's purpose is to keep the American political sphere under control by trying to get their people elected in office and in congress... The billions of dollars in annual aid comes from the average and poor American who doesn't even have a fraction of the benefits israelis enjoys ...it honestly needs to be free the US not free Palestine at this point
The people that are getting paid by AIPAC make the laws. You don’t need to send 15 billions to a single person in order to bribe them. You give them 2 millions and they will make the laws that send you 14,8 billion. That’s why what aipac is spending is a fraction of what Israel is getting
@@Little_Britain74yes, but Jews are indeginous in Judea, just as the native Americans are indeginous in America, or the Aborignees in Australia. While Islam spread out and occupied big chunks of the world and basically crushed all cultures invaded to never be seen againg, Jews lived in the diaspora never ever conquering anything. So, I'm just sayin be careful with false narratives at all times. Netanyahu did not create Hamas, they were created out of the deadly islamic cause, the same cause you have with all the other Islamic terror organisations. They are all the same. I find this whole discussion super idiotic. People do not see what is in front of their eyes, instead the fabricate stupid ideas that take them even further from the truth.
I love Joe's curiosity. The only thing is Joe, when did you really start getting curious ? There is just too much information that seems new to you which has actually been openly available for decades.
@@rudivanrooijen7611he’s a pretty busy guy and runs in right wing circles so his political knowledge will inevitably be skewed to the right. Right wingers overwhelmingly side with Israel so it’s kind of his position by default. New information is like adding new cards to his deck. What’s unfortunate is he seems to frequently throw these cards out as time goes on.
Netanyahu’s quote is corroborated by Ami Ayalon (Israel’s ex head of shin bet and ex head of navy) on the video titled “BOMBSHELL: Israel Intelligence Chief Says The Quiet Part Out Loud!” here on RU-vid. Between 2:59 - 3:03 of that video he says “We had to make sure that Hamas will go on controlling Gaza”.
Mike Baker knows exactly what's going on. But he will only speak to further the interests of his three letter agency. Nothing more Anyone with even a shred of historical understanding knows how groups like h@ma$, @l-queda, I$i$ and the T@lib@n all got started and propped up.
Netanyahu’s quote is corroborated by Ami Ayalon (Israel’s ex head of shin bet and ex head of navy) on the video titled “BOMBSHELL: Israel Intelligence Chief Says The Quiet Part Out Loud!” here on RU-vid. Between 2:59 - 3:03 of that video he says “We had to make sure that Hamas will go on controlling Gaza”.
Dave is 100% spot on and now you find Netanyahu and co whining and bitching that the Iraqis, Iranians, Hezbollah and Hamas are all on their doorstep...karmas a bitch isn't it...
@Bobby-rq5pe the government doesn't care about anyone bud. Don't kid yourself, there is no safe view or political party affiliation that will protect you if they decide your non existence serves thier purpose. Biden and Trump are irrelevant
I've re-evaluated everything I've learned about world history (especially WW2) since witnessing Israel pull all these strings on our government and media with almost no resistance.
Everything is a lie. Our government, economy, education and media has been totally hijacked and weaponized against Americans. We are being sucked dry by vampires.
So,..if the ZZ folk funded or bought G. (Country) from here (the US) through Brown Brothers Harimon with Prescott Bush at the lead, then all the top leaders following mustache man got away to Argentina and it’s rumored the remains of mustache man did not match DNA…who lost and who won? I mean, that bank is still around and there’s a freaking resort filled with Spanish speaking G. Argentines. They even used those guys to coup a country.
I would say everything he said is pretty accurate, although he didn't mention that Yitzhak Rabin, the former prime minister of Israel who helped orchestrate the Oslo accords, was assassinated by someone working with Netanyahu's political party. Netanyahu has been doing everything he can for the last 30 years to dismantle the 2 state solution and dismantle the peace process.
This is the first time I have seen Palestinians being called for dancing Israelis, for at least the last 10 years they were Israelis who were accused of having relations with mossad.
Netanyahu’s quote is corroborated by Ami Ayalon (Israel’s ex head of shin bet and ex head of navy) on the video titled “BOMBSHELL: Israel Intelligence Chief Says The Quiet Part Out Loud!” here on RU-vid. Between 2:59 - 3:03 of that video he says “We had to make sure that Hamas will go on controlling Gaza”.
No they’ve been supporting the Palestinian Territories of which Hamas was elected the governing body of by the Gazans. There’s a difference. Hamas has been openly misappropriating those funds and the material aid for nearly 20yrs.
Netanyahu’s quote is corroborated by Ami Ayalon (Israel’s ex head of shin bet and ex head of navy) on the video titled “BOMBSHELL: Israel Intelligence Chief Says The Quiet Part Out Loud!” here on RU-vid. Between 2:59 - 3:03 of that video he says “We had to make sure that Hamas will go on controlling Gaza”.
It's funny how Joe steelwalls every single argument against Israel, but then someone comes on and says people protesting Israel don't know what they're protesting, and he's like "yeah"
He also just never sees anything wrong with Trump. He just knows his market the fact is Trump's bad bidens bad and both political parties are currently taking our rights away just using the other party as an excuse when they do. An they got the herds pitted against each other so one side takes from the other their like celebrating they got an "attack" on the other side and won... It's so mush brained at this point I really worry about our future. Like right now in NC they are trying to outlaw medical mask but it can carry over to any mask. Which is crazy and they made wearing a mask political even though I agree that was about control like the other viruses we just never took serious. They just tricked us with this one... Yet outlawing a mask someone people wear those mask cause they have disorders and need them before COVID. So you are attacking a simple medical mask which doesn't cover the face enough for people to get away with these "crimes" they commit in them. It's literally a mad house right now. The abortion thing in southern states an attack on women's right to choose and women's health clinics cause they don't even give birth control out anymore in those states. Then they take more from one they take from the other but people don't realize. Even those Republicans still get their abortions and stuff done. 🤷🏻♂️
@@thegreatmosquito1001nethanyahu is a convicted criminal in Israel. What are you talking about? And it’s the Israeli government supporting hamas. Not nethanyahu
Netanyahu’s quote is corroborated by Ami Ayalon (Israel’s ex head of shin bet and ex head of navy) on the video titled “BOMBSHELL: Israel Intelligence Chief Says The Quiet Part Out Loud!” here on RU-vid. Between 2:59 - 3:03 of that video he says “We had to make sure that Hamas will go on controlling Gaza”.
Joe needs to tatoo this shit on his body like Memento, because the number of time Dave is on and lays it ALL out to him but somehow the next episode he's forgotten everything and starts regurgitating Zionist talking points is crazy!
There’s literally no evidence. Just closed door quotes… but for someone who hates Israel like you, it’s facts. On the other hand, zionists are dropping cold hard evidence, but it doesn’t fit your anti Jewish homeland narrative
90% of the data he brought are incorrect. Talks a lot of nonsense with complete confidence. Definitely lends itself to stupid people who can't think independently.
@@garyjohnson..yes and the last building fell down without any plane going into it.And no plane can fly into a building with its nose sticking out the other side
"I said: 'Get me President Bush on the phone,'" Olmert said in a speech in the southern Israeli city of Ashkelon. "They said he was in the middle of giving a speech in Philadelphia. I said I didn't care: 'I need to talk to him now.' He got off the podium and spoke to me." - Former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert in 2009 Source : Jerusalem Post, NYTimes, Reuters, etc Who’s really in control of America?
@gamingdreams2142 I'm making the point that even if the mainstream media is saying it in this case, about Israel, it's true. I'm not sure how you can't see the distinction but hey good luck out there kid
Propping up Hamas knowing a Palestinian state could be worse is not a win for the other side. if you had to choose between pacifying Al Qaeda and giving a lesser version of them an official state knowing Al Qaeda takes over, you would do the same
Even if he didn't do anything to support them it shows that there's a significant desire to control Gaza with no regard for hurting the people who live there.
Netanyahu’s quote is corroborated by Ami Ayalon (Israel’s ex head of shin bet and ex head of navy) on the video titled “BOMBSHELL: Israel Intelligence Chief Says The Quiet Part Out Loud!” here on RU-vid. Between 2:59 - 3:03 of that video he says “We had to make sure that Hamas will go on controlling Gaza”.
@@drunkpolack7612 interesting considering the fact their population has doubled in the last 20 years. I would ask you to explain that but something tells me that critical thinking isn't your thing
In a talk to an Israeli group in July, 2010, Sheldon Adelson (Mega Donor) said he wished he had served in the Israeli Army rather the U.S. military-and that he hoped his young son will come back to Israel and “be a sniper for the IDF,” a reference to the Israel Defense Forces. (RU-vid video of speech) “I am not Israeli. The uniform that I wore in the military, unfortunately, was not an Israeli uniform. It was an American uniform, although my wife was in the IDF and one of my daughters was in the IDF … our two little boys, one of whom will be bar mitzvahed tomorrow, hopefully he’ll come back- his hobby is shooting - and he’ll come back and be a sniper for the IDF,” Adelson said at the event. “All we care about is being good Zionists, being good citizens of Israel, because even though I am not Israeli born, Israel is in my heart,” he said toward the end of his talk.
In a war, what side would Israel fight on? America's. People act like Israel would have been on the side of the Axis FFS. This isn't a hard game to play.
Netanyahu’s quote is corroborated by Ami Ayalon (Israel’s ex head of shin bet and ex head of navy) on the video titled “BOMBSHELL: Israel Intelligence Chief Says The Quiet Part Out Loud!” here on RU-vid. Between 2:59 - 3:03 of that video he says “We had to make sure that Hamas will go on controlling Gaza”.
Joe needs to have Abby Martin back on.whatever his bullshit problem with her over Covid.He needs to get over it. All he’s doing is pushing talking points he’s heard from Tulsi Gabbert and Coleman Hughes.
@@zg9445 I think Tusi is why Rogan thinking is where it is on this subject.I also think He’s conflating the protests for Palestine and the reaction to it to the pushback he got when was talking about Covid.that and woke DEI teacher’s and trans people.
@@chakir348finklestein is a discredited simpleton. If you’re listening to that idiot then you’re truly delusional. The so called‘Palestinians’ are not the victims in this conflict if you pay attention to the actual statistics and not the BS narrative. You’re believing Hamas generated propaganda. There is no genocide being committed by Israel in Gaza there is no restriction of aid by Israel. There was genocide committed on the 7th of October by Hamas. There is and has been for nearly 20yrs a restriction and misappropriation of aid by Hamas.
You forgot to mention that in 1995, PM Yitzah Rabin was killed by a Jewish extremist, Yigal Amir, who was angry about the Oslo Accords, in which Rabin agreed to cede some of the territory occupied in the Six-Day War (1967) to the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in exchange for peace. This extremist was actually a member of the Likud Party, and was hailed as a hero of the Likud Party (that rules Israel today). Let's not forget that Netanyahu took over in a few months after Rabin was killed. If they can do that to their own Israelis for wanting peace, imagine what they'll do to Palestinians that want their own state. You see what they are doing to them.
Do you really believe that a video of five dancing people proves that Mossad did 9/11? Do you think spies doing such a high level operation would celebrate so publicly? Stop fishing
@@MoroccanAnwar in the same boat. I’ve done a lot of what I would almost call reprogramming what I learned growing up. For example, I was NEVER taught that the Soviets invaded Poland almost right when Germany did. Feels like something I should have learned
No Dave, this is not a Netenyah only problem, every PM throughout Israel's history followed the same script, yes even Rabin despite the peace rhetoric. Bring on Miko Peled or Illan Pape Joe.
@@mazharul I don’t need to hear his leftist nonsense. He doesn’t know the history or skips over it and tries to simply things that are more nuanced and complex.
Dave was fighting uphill the whole time he was talking about Israel. Joe couldn’t help himself from continuing to interrupt and try to derail the conversation. Super weird and immature.
@@LarryDavid.blochain themselves By openly admitting there to document the event the Dancers. and the Art students aswell.. but you know that.. there's my source botty..
