David Bowie Criticizes MTV for Not Playing Videos by Black Artists | MTV News 

MTV: posts about themselves being racist and Bowie calling them out on it. Proceeds to distance themselves by talking in 3rd person like they aren't MTV 🤔 Subsequently has no description in video to show if any progress was made or accountability taken. 😐🧐

@@fallin2high yes thats what companies do

all these artists are white

Why is MTV acting like they are the ones who aren't at fault? They're trying to distance themselves from their own past? Shame, that's why no one watches MTV anymore 😬

Mtv is ruined now because of blacks

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Rob Stidman No, he didn’t. There’s a whole story about that that I can’t be bothered to recite right now - please don’t believe everything you read!

@@rstidman The girl who said she was Jimmy Page's girlfriend at age 14 thru 17, also said she lost her virginity to David Bowie, also at age 14. The Jimmy Page story seems more credible. Her account with Bowie has contradictions and timeline issues.

ALL of which we have here in America but not in other parts of the world but you virtue signaling morons don't care.

Rob Stidman bruh he never did, they said that about Kobe to, and Mj

J2K absolutely brilliant And as you see in the so called fake RNB bubblegum productions today you couldn't be more spot on Theirs Been a clear mission ,agenda by record labels Pr promotions and ,marketing teams to white wash previously black art forms to the point where the black people that previously innovated the RNB ,soul, music music ,the blues, funk ,jazz early eighties , boogie jazz funk ,jazz fusion acid jazz, ,disco ,house , garage are invisible .extinct Well spotted. The realist comment of this entire communication replies section It's wicked'beyond measure.

Yeah like yikes

And yet, many people still believe it so unlikely that hip-hop might be all white one day.

Reppin Seattle 79 it sad to think about it but even something like that most music genres were created by black people and even then most people only associate Black people with hip hop and r&b, very sad

Most genres of music that are popular today ARE because of black artists. Jazz, hip hop, R&B, Rock and Country are all heavily influenced or created by black musicians.

Well that's not really true. Sam Cooke was talking about issues like thus in the early 60s. It's just that it usually came from black artists so people just saw it as a community fighting their rights. Speaks way more volume when a white guy does it. That's called using your platform to combat prejudice. Make people understand that this isn't a black problem. It's an us problem as a whole

People have always talked about these issues, YOU were just being ignorant

@@GreenEyedDazzler Not on tv. Sounds like you were born in 2005. Keep screaming into the void.

Can you STOP bringing us in conversations all the damn time?! We didn't live back then, so what? We can't control the year we are born, by 83. Racism/slavery was illegal, MTV just didn't play black artists until MJ's iconic "Billie Jean" came after one of his managers force MTV to play it.

​@@GreenEyedDazzlerExactly.

Also Prince.

Remember, Michael Jackson went through a "transformation" to become a "mainstream" artist.

And as a white man that enjoys all music, thank you David Bowie. I wish someone of his status would talk to MTV about playing music videos again. It’s not even music television anymore. It’s quite saddening to be honest

Stop lying Michael Jackson did that before transformation, he already had fame with thriller album, off the wall and bad album he was not white

@@humanforotherhumanswhat are you yapping about

And what about David Bowie? He was just another artist back then. He was no bigger than the others. Only now after he’s dead young people like you are overrating him.

Shut up, Bieber

@@ruok3351 If you think that only after his death people started "overrating" him then you're probably very young or ignorant, he has always been an incredibly influential figure in music. His work in the 70s is sublime.

@@ruok3351 I have no idea what you're talking about but I was saying that a lot of David's characters were quite literally out of this world. He was extreme. So his reasoning for black artists not being shown was bull.

@@ruok3351 that's not the point he's making- he's saying throughout the 70's Bowie was out of his mind on drugs wearing weird makeup, skin tight unitards etc... Extreme sh*t.. thats why its ironic.

Lmaoo

+OnceUponAPiano Excellent! But can you tell me----just what *does* MTV show now? On my life, I can't figure out what their programming is supposed to be now. The last time I tried to watch anything on MTV my brain almost melted down. And I thought BET could make you stupid...this was worse. A LOT worse...

+Tony Jones I haven't watched MTV since TRL was last on...there was actually a top 10 music video countdown. I don't know what they show now XD

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thank you you nailed it

In today's time? Do they dare? He speaks the truth anyways. Also hypothetically if they still do that, other channels or people will keep and upload this clip for themselves and for Bowie, and question MTV on this very issue (that they probably hadn't changed all these years after all and it's only proven true by the clip's removal).

​@@MollyHJohnsof course the would dare especially in todays time. Since they don't want to be seen racist nowadays so them keeping this up is actually surprising

How do we know they don’t think there’s nothing wrong with the answers given? 🤷‍♂️

Yep and respect to master for allowing mammy to help raise his children 😂

The meaning, "​@@Sensiking19"?

yeah and chinese television has only chinese people on it, they must be pandering to racists too

Things aren’t so black and white (pun not intended) , the unfortunate reality is that a vast proportion of white people had racist beliefs in those days. MTV, a corporation knew that and toed the line enough to stay in business. the difference today is, the demographics and socioeconomic status of POC have changed, with higher numbers and more spending power. Businesses only care about the bottom line, very few care about social change.

I like the way he said “isn’t that interesting”

Delusional and disingenuous to get a point across, very current year of you

it's so crazy how they could openly just admit that on tv back then

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*interrogation

pretty much rofl.

I was the 1000th like, not tryna flex or anything ....

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right

me 2

Michael Purdie Abbott yea tru

700th like buddy

Animals is there best album. :)

Absolutely.

That is the most hilarious part....when they zoom in on Bowie. 😂😂

The death of a great human being!! That’s what happeed

The world is truly a better place BECAUSE he was in it.

Didn’t expect you here 🤣. Sup

Daddy 😍

BigBangFan69 - omg noo

stoopid. kali yes 😈

Good artist but far . from being a legend

The interviewers response to him at 1:31 told it all.

We didn't deserve Bowie

Midd Knight... yep, very telling.

He loved Kanye

He then went out and slept with more children after the video.

As a white kid growing up in a tiny Midwest town surrounded by cornfields, l loved Prince, Michael Jackson, Earth, Wind and Fire, and tons of other black artists. WTF is Goodman talking about? Bowie knew he was full of shit, but as ever remained a gentleman.

He's scared to death they'd lose $$$ if all the racists stop watching

When has media ever succeeded by leaning into pissing off conservative white bumpkins? That's why nobody has ever heard of the Beatles.

@@dominicpardo4783he was shilling for the company that employed him 😂 even his justification for why they wouldn’t do it and how it would scare people says everything. He also said we are a rock and roll station and forgets the roots of rock 😂

@@JosePineda-jn8jk No kidding. Bo Diddly, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Chubby Checker...... Those guys started it.

that camera man knew what he was doing loll

4:23 Bowie was done-done with ol' dude.

Andres Linares I know what a dickhead

Lmao and Prince was from the Midwest so it’s even more ironic.

How is it racist?

@@LeviUlysses-mp5wg How is it racist that people in the midwest would be scared to death of black faces? Is that what you're asking?

Through socratic questioning.

@@alexross5714 It's perfect and works every time. Actually putting it into practice is the hard part, it's easy to get stressed and confrontational during a disagreement, but Bowie doesn't let that happen

100%. Goodman made himself look bad simply by existing here.

Exactly! He said _all_ the *wrong* things. 😂😂 Or all the *_right_* things, because he said exactly what Bowie was trying to expose. 👀 😂😂

"I understand your point of view" was such a cool way to say, "you're a narrow-minded idiot" lol

Why didn’t he ask any question about Asian artists not being present in huge ass numbers? 😂 do you think African mtv hosts 40-50% of white artists? 😂

Exactly

Definitely I know of his career. I think it's long overdue for me to do crate digging for this guy

Real talk!

+Jordan Bell- Yes. Yes it is

+H Hebert he hadn't even met his wife back then... he's just as clever as hell

+ThatOneGuyCpr does mtv play music anymore ?

Yes. Well said observation.

Yup

its show biz, they allways make excuses for being wrong

I would love to see Mark Goodman's face 30 years later when he watch that interview 😗

Well the sad part is that in 1983 curly guy opinion wasn't anyhow exceptional so he didn't got him because he says there 100% acceptable things at that time

Facts 💯

You ask why men like that cannot be presidential candidates. Kind hearted, imperfect, inclusive and accountable.

White British are less racist than white Americans

The world will never change on how they look at us black people so your just wasting your breath

Probably because nobody like that would ever want the job of the presidency. ​@@nope1502

Or just how behind America was.

Plus he wasn’t ready-didn’t see Bowie’s question coming at all.

Or just how potent a racially charged narrative is. Maybe Bowie was talking shit about coincidence and the warmer was changing?

Also remember Bowie was married to a Black woman.

@@howardsternisbatman not at that time. He didn't marry Iman until the 90s although he did always date black women. He just was one of the most open and least race conscious people ever. And he always loved to create controversy wherever he could.

The world needs more David Bowies.

@@TheTenCentStory True. An extremely random point that you brought up that has nothing to do with this conversation, but true.

@@RealJackHQ David Bowie didn't take advantage of young girls?

@@TheTenCentStory No

@@ellameyer8151 Having sex with underage girls is statutory rape and should be punishable by castration.

Fair play to CBS

Wrong, (or liar) MTV did have black artist since they started in 81. J.J. Jackson (who also hosted), Gary U.S. Bonds, Grace Jones, Neville Staple, Pauline Black, Arthur Hendrickson, Compton Amanor, Charlie Bembridge, to name a few. Plus there where other non-white artist, doing rock. Some of these artist were in MTV's 1st hundred vids which were dominated by the same few artist over and over.

Bl*ck artists were NOT featured in MTV's regular rotation and during prime time. The MJ story can be found at several major verifiable news sites.

Search it. MJ was the first bl*ck in regular rotation.

​​​@@EnervatedSociety Literally _nothing_ you said refutes what OP posted. It's true that Michael Jackson wasn't the first Black artist on MTV- but OP did not claim otherwise. _At all._ Learn to read.

And after this interview MTV did the exact opposite. Only hip hop music had air time on MTV. The reason for me to stop seeing it. Not because I am racist but because I despise all of hip hop videos.

@Liam Berg (STUDENT) 0:00 - 4:34

I thought he was gonna bitch slap him.

This about sums it up pretty well

His face says “are you listening to this bs?” He’s so polite with it too

he looked so done and i live him for it

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Inviting non-Black people to the cookout is kinda why we get trampled over, even by Liberal Whites, but go ahead...

“Very interesting”

@@ButchCrassidy 🤡

@@jppage3292 Enjoy your butter biscuits! LOL

He was a blessing!

The big homie

he basically said "Black people is not profitable because racism exist so we go with the flow of racism"

​@@1lukarioz Yeah, like how no black person bought Rebirth

Check the channel name

Mark Mullins And i hate the KKK and Aryan Nation

THEN what happened in the wake of this interview? - Michael "King of Pop" Jackson became the biggest most over-played over hyped overrated and media-hogginest star in the world and gawd-awful rap / hip hop overtook MTV. Wonder if Mr Bowie ever remembered this interview and thought "Foot in me bloomin mouth!!"?

Actually, no there were NOT allot of BLACK musical acts making VIDEOS during the EARLY 80's, when THIS interview took place. WHO WERE the popular black musical acts at THAT TIME again anyway? .. . Cool And The Gang? The Pointer Sisters? Earth Wind And Fire? . . and all these funk and disco groups left over from the late 70's? I remember when MTV FIRST came out, in 1981 I believe, they were mainly playing groups like Blondie, Devo, B 52's, Talking Heads, The Police, Tom Petty And The Heart Breakers, The Go Go's, The Buggles and all those post-punk / New Wave groups which were mostly WHITE and THEY were the groups that were making most of the VIDEOS at that time. It wasn't until after Michael "King of Pop" Jackson became a big sensation ( about 1984 ) that they started playing more BLACK r&b and funk acts.

"Durr, there were'nt black bands making videos because I didn't see any on the channel that didn't play videos by black bands, hurr derpty terp."

Paul Thomas I know ! Haha I love him !

To be fair to the interviewer, if I must. He isn't the network, he is an interviewer, and he is in a position where he HAS to defend MTV because thats who hired him. I don't know much about the interviewer outside of this interviewer, so he could absolutely be a piece of shit. But I wouldn't base any assumptions on him on just this interview. I would have loved to now how he truly felt, but there was no way he could be that candid and also know his job is secure. lol It seemed the interviewer was trying to strike a balance of agreeing with Bowie, but giving MTV an out as to why it was the way it was.

​@@YerpDerp17Either way, his response makes him look bad. He could have interjected his personal opinion on the matter to encourage change, but he was just as complicit with the racist narrative that "America isn't ready for that yet". That excuse has been used for way too long now. They care more about the feelings of racists instead of playing good music. People would rather blame the victims instead of having the courage to stand up to bad people by saying they're wrong.

Flawless victory. The VJs argument was dead in the water.

How times have changed since this interview. Now Mtv only plays reality shows, black rap videos and all things related to the hip hop culture. Mtv stopped playing white artists close to 20 ago years now.

@@joedimaggio6261 then don't watch it ya racist shitbag

Nic I'm only making an honest observation. How am I wrong with what I said? I bet you call everyone a racist.

I agree with what Bowie is saying here but now the pendulum has gone in the complete opposite direction

@@BLTKellys Was Bowie admiring Hitler or was he commenting on the cult of personality? Bowie once commented along the lines, when introduced to the Internet, that it would cause a commotion because it would create new realities, new ideas that would disturb people. One reality being a leader can't be positive influence to some,yet negative to others such as Trump, Obama, Clinton, Carter,Judas, Lucifer or your God's name here.

@@derekbrooks9812 he was admiring him. Bowie later said he was on drugs and into occult mysticism at the time of saying it, which isn’t really an adequate excuse IMO. Obviously he evolved later.

@@BLTKellys Apologies, I've just found a couple of sources confirming what you said. Again, my bad.

@@BLTKellys you obviously never seen someone who is delusional due to drug abuse. That’s so sad to see, I hope you never will.

He also came to Nz with our natives.

Yep.

I don't believe so. He spoke with tact and grace. The "woke" population tends to speak with arrogance, as if to say "Look at me and my beliefs". If they learned to speak with this type of class, they could be as well-respected as Bowie is.

​@@DivaInTheWoodsmany do. But classy and calm interactions don't make for sensational news, do they?

@@albertlight3797 well, David Bowie DID perform on Soul Train and would never say a statement like that to Don Cornelius ,if we're being honest here.

@@albertlight3797 do you know what "WOKE" actually means? Not what a republican TELLS you it means or using that word to push a racist agenda. Cause "Woke" was created to essentially say you should look out for other people's feelings and experiences that isn't white men's , but it's become " I don't like it cause it APPEARS PROGRESSIVE, so it's a threat, so let's say it's "woke" ...and who says it? Usually White men. Just an Observation

Exactly! Either you can be like David and eloquently and logically explain your grievances in a way that leaves your opponent no way to defend himself/herself. Or, you can be like the modern day BLM movements and cancel everything and preach against discrimination and hatred all while going out into the streets and looting the stores of innocent shop owners that had nothing to do with the issue in the first place, destroying your credibility in the process by acting so hypocritically.

😂if he did this today you'd call him an sjw woke mob virtue signal libtard. To your ilk, rights in the past are romantic, rights in the present are a scourge

Oh, love it. Love shade. Specially for exposing the truths...

Bowie didn't make the guy look racist. In the conversation, Mark Goodman exposed his racism and made several arguments to defend racism.

my thoughts exactly

@Sultan King Nah, those were lame excuses on Mark Goodman's part. By 1981, there were a number of white shows on tv that had featured black musicians, creatives, intellectuals, actors. Television wasn't completely segregated. Audiences around the country had already been exposed to diverse programming. BET actually was established in RESPONSE to channels like MTV, who chose to exclude black artists from its lineup. It offered black artists a platform when other channels denied them access.

Bowie didn’t make him look racist, the interviewer did that to himself. Bowie just posed the important questions and got shown in reply the horrible disgusting truths of the industry.

A little like a bit from The Office lol

Imbra Kim you read my mind lol that was totally a Jim moment (Edit) right after Michael makes an inappropriate joke.

@@Kayd2111 that's what she said

Charles Walker that’s the one lmao 😂

I think the cameraman is on Bowie's side with this one.

All Bowie even had to say about that was “hmmm, isn’t that just interesting/strange?” Just pointing out how silly that racist answer was

And that's what makes me love him all the more.

😂 as he shouldn't cuz it's all a sack of lies

I just love that David Bowie glare

One big reason why MTV never really took off in the UK and Europe. They play a lot good music in the 80s and 90s, Cameo, Prince, Michael Jackson, Public Enemy etc. Soul II Soul. So much great music. It’s a joke. MTV a rock channel. A really bad situation. No wonder MTV died. Not enough racists to keep it going. Thank god! RU-vid and online gave people what they wanted. They want black artists music videos - you can get them all now. No matter what, progress will just do what it’s going to do. Now MTV is just 100% irrelevant and has been for decades now. Who’s habe thought 10 years after this video that MTV would have peaked and be struggling, 10 years after that in 2003 they were on life support. Now in 2020, MTV have basically died. Nearly 40 years later, no one I know under 30 goes “I remember MTV,” they are saying “What was MTV?”

@@nicholasdickens2801 What's MTV?

peak british behavior lol

Full meaning: "Interesting that you've chosen to sabotage yourself that way."

it's classic shade

@@Bestbeachesincalifornia was going to say the same thing! I'm British but I live in Spain, and more than once I've had people say that British people are too apologetic and it comes across as weak or spineless. And I'm like.... "Oooh. You heard a British person say 'sorry' and you thought they meant that they were sorry. That could have meant a million different things from 'what the fuck did you just say', to 'why are you still in my way' to 'thats the stupidest shit anyone has ever said to me ever'. If that's what 'sorry' can mean, just imagine what we mean when we say 'thats very interesting'.

Never forget: “In April 1951, 650 British fighting men - soldiers and officers from the 1st Battalion, the Gloucestershire Regiment - were deployed on the most important crossing on the Imjin River to block the traditional invasion route to Seoul. The Chinese had sent an entire division - 10,000 men - against the isolated Glosters in a major offensive to take the whole Korean peninsula, and the small force was gradually surrounded and overwhelmed. After two days' fighting, an American, Major General Robert H. Soule, asked the British brigadier, Thomas Brodie: "How are the Glosters doing?" The brigadier, with English understatement, replied: "A bit sticky, things are pretty sticky down there." To American ears, this did not sound desperate, and so he ordered them to stand fast. The surviving Glosters were rescued by a column of tanks; they escaped under fire, sitting on the decks of the tanks.”

Tell that to Irish people. Tell that to Eskimos. Tell that to Tibetans. Music is no way shape or form “nothing” without black influences.

@@dahe8883honey we’re talking about American pop, rock, soul, funk, country etc. All black-American people right there.

100% true. I'm Indigenous and Black music has been life blood to our peoples around the world.

@@mademiosellezandiii7729 I mean, American Country has strong roots in Traditional Irish music. I'm not discounting the influence of black artists, but it's not like we need to pick and choose which influences matter.

In the modern world most songs by any artist are influenced by a genre created by black people​ @@dahe8883

That's a good thing right?

That part was beautiful ❤

But so untrue. A black teenager is NOT a part of Amerikkka. He's the most American person in the nation, but the least Amerikkkan. There's TWO, you know. The one built by Foundational Black Americans is AMERICA. The government and all their demonic tools (like RU-vid, who deletes all black people's important posts) are AMERIKKKA! Big difference, and Amerikkka must be destroyed.

Narcissists forget they share the world with others

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And the slight "sike!" stare 😁😁😁

MTV was a rock to metal bands station in it's early days. you don't know that. you think it's racism cause your stupid. if you were smart you would know how mtv used to program for two years in advance. but that would take away your virtue signalling glow. notice how good the videos got around 83/84.

@Michael Catalano Be a little more triggered. :D :D

@@bobbeckey6941 Ageing Gen-Xer here. If you think that that network's videos were good "around 83/84," I've got some hairspray to sell you. :D :D And trying to make the "logical argument" that programming lily-white pop music "two years in advance"* counts as an excuse for bigoted narrow-mindedness is like trying to say that PLANNING wars and biological warfare makes it all perfectly benign. (But then--- you think typing "your stupid" makes you look smart. :D :D :D) *Does that mean the MTV programmers had psychic knowledge that, say, Huey Lewis would go over? :D

@@argentokaos2629 Yes your racism has won me over? You had me at "lily white" honestly your so stupid. why would I waste any time over you. you shit bag.

Ziggy was bisexual, not asexual.

Asexual means you don't have sex lol

That is one full of the funniest things I’ve ever heard

@@cremetangerine82 oops. I know Bowie slept with everyone but I thought Ziggy the character was different. My bad

I thought he was tri- sexual..... meaning- try anything once!

Yep that's so true. Claiming you're anti racist (as most people nowadays do) is one thing, standing up and exposing inequality is another. Unfortunately today, most people say they are tolerant and anti racist but when push comes to shove all that most people ever care about is saving themselves and their beliefs.

Yup

Sums it up

As soon as Bowie entered the room: "Is that boss music I hear?"

@Sultan King I reckon the gov't was racist. The people had to push the gov't to be less racist.

@@izabelaR that's true. it always starts with people. Who benefits are the govt. actors, or private businesses who grasp the sincerity of their cry and act quicker rather than later.

@Logan Waltz Jump back to the comments the other guy said about Westerners being afraid of "a black man appearing on their television", amongst other things he fumbled on

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did you get triggered by the P word? for someone who calls himself master chief you sure act like a little bitch lol@@Brooks1874

Huh?

He went further and married an african model. Great guy

@@JacksonZ. huh what? if a white artist who gets his music played on MTV calls out MTV for not playing black artists that the literal definition of using your privilege. are you too dumb to grasp that concept or did you just get triggered by the P word?

Your memory must be bad. I saw black artist all the time on MTV, especially in 88. I even saw them in 1981. In fact, I saw black musicians in MTV's first 100 videos. I remember it like it was yesterday. Signed a black man.

@@EnervatedSociety Er… did you not just watch this video in which the person from MTV admitted that very fact?

hip hop would not exist without black people, disco would not exist without black people, soul would not exist without black people, jazz would not exist without black people, they are too many black parents of music that we should not ignore

@@kissarococo2459 damn, arent we bitter? Also instruments existed in African cultures too, dickfart.

@@kissarococo2459 And if there wasn't a barn, you wouldn't have been born

@Dave54600 "Nobody wants to hear white kids imitating what the blues used to be" Ike Turner

Though I credit the blues influincials for Rock & Roll, either way the creative artists would have found a sound .pleasing and most beautiful to the soul either way regardless♠️

a lot of people dont seem to understand that it's actually kind of right???? during that time, people probably would have been scared for the sole reason that racism just flat out DOESNT make sense.... that's like half of why it's so widespread in the south. uneducated people with misinformation. that's just how bigotry is. people WOULD be scared to hear black artists because of how wrong they've grown up to know things. you also gotta take into consideration that in the midwest, some towns could be so small that ONLY white people live there, which might be scary for an uneducated, poor, white kid to hear even someone like prince... it was a hell of a different time back then... that being said, that doesnt make it the RIGHT thing to say, it's just a correct statement... even if prince was from minnesota

Prince should be scared of them polite Minnesotans, funky shit be happening in Fargo

@@bds70 That's why media censorship exists

It’s cos of his liberal image, and conforming sexuality. Conservatives don’t like that stuff, they’re phobic of it.

@isabel dillon I was a young (white girl from Texas) adult when this interview was done. Even then I was disgusted by MTV's stance. I'm still mortified daily by racist's ignorance. ☮️

The guy said "scared as hell".... thats soo fucked up.

Time stamp? as I seemed to have missed despite watching twice. The volume isn't great on the phone!

@@saira_6151 1:37

We need to stop calling each other "black" or "white". That would be a nice first step, I think.

@@ectoplasmicfeedback1480 There are undeniable disparities between white and black people in our society that simply could never be solved by just pretending they are the same historically and socially and that there are no social or economic differences between the two. Just as the sun isn't destroyed by blocking it with a piece of cloth, sistemic racism is not solved by ignoring the differences between white and black people (and I mean this socially. It's important to emphasize that there are no genetic differences between races significant enough to make one even slightly better or worse than the other. Fuck eugenics)

We should all aspire to be like david and speak up when we see something in the world that just isnt right.

@Logan Waltz well compared to the clowns that still fall in line, I'm still giving Bowie props. I see ur point but he was still doing it before it was cool.

but humans suck

@Triple JJ bro Bernie is disliked because he is a communist. He spent his honeymoon in the SOVIET UNION lmao. Not because he is like Bowie

A true punk! Standing up for what he believed in: justice & equality!

By that you mean no one white talked about it.

Bob Popular just turn on the tap and flood us with scary looking black people? I’ll give you the exact same answer Bowie gave to the man who was only thinking about money - “I understand you” ... (“but it doesn’t make moral sense”).

Bob Popular again, I understand your point of view... but I refuse to be so naive and think that white kids in Midwest America had a complete different taste in music than their counterparts in NYC because that’s the way they were born; I think their parents and friends told them which music is good for them and the whiter it is, the better. I lived 3 years in America and that’s only my impression. Hopefully I’m wrong.

Bob Popular I’m British... so I live in England. I’ve lived in NYC for three years. It was (almost) as multicultural as London and very liberal. I’ve done coast to coast for 3 months and people were different and nice to me everywhere but most of them have never left their village or maybe their county. Anyway, music is so universal and brings people together that it doesn’t matter where you’re from.

@@sycoanalyst BS. I was a teenager back then and remember when MTV debuted. Most of the consumers of Rap were white kids. And why would anyone be scared of Prince or MJ? David wasn't buying what MTV and Mark or Marc were selling. Record labels with huge white artists on their roster; had to be threaten to pull those white artists videos if they didn't put their black artists into the rotation.

@@sycoanalyst There was rap: Rappers Delight hit the top 40 in 1979. Black music that was censored by MTV includes R&B and dance music- which is hardly scary. The anti-disco phase could be seen as anti-black. Goodman was right in that all the top 40 stations were doing the same racist thing. And who the hell is scared of Prince? I was a teenager in 83 in Kentucky and all us white girls loved him. Still do. But I take issue most with you saying "Unlike today, there was actually a very wide spectrum for choice." Wrong wrong. Spotify, RU-vid, and other streaming music services will let you explore any music your heart desires. That's how Lil Nas X got a number 1 country song. It's how Spanish Despicito became a number 1. You need to explore more.

Yeah mtv shouldn't be called mtv anymore. More like RTV. Reality-Television.

+Prometheus Antares A bitter-sounding guy in his 30/40s whining about "PC liberal reality tv crap".......interesting.

+SyTunes shots fired

Because we can just go to RU-vid.

They follow the money

Bowie drops the mike. *Boom!*

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It's also theirs because the vast majority of their audience was white and likely thought along the same lines as that white kid, especially in the early 80s when very few black neighborhoods had access to cable. It might have been fucked to shaft black artists but MTV is a corporation that is solely motivated by profit which means you can't realistically expect them to act ethically when there aren't clear monetary incentives for them to do so.

@@remembertotakeshowerspleas355 yeah, it's a shame that companies make decisions not according to moral values but to what will get them more profit

Bowie ain't buying any of the shit he's sellin!

Can you blame him?

Not by that guy but by what that guy represented

Everyone should be..

@@rememberingtruth yeah

Remembering Truth yup 👍

Yeah, I forgot that he had different colored eyes.

Looking at him then he was actually kinda hot

@@ghoullazarus2835 Yeah his friend punched him in the eye when he was younger which made one of his eyes permanently dilated. He wasn’t born with heterochroma.

Sorry heterochromia iridium.

The cameraman was on Bowie's side I suppose

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Yes, Bowie was right. It’s the guys problem.😂

@@archie6962 Guy was a snowflake. If I had written a letter every time I hated a music video on Tv in the 90s & 00s, I'd still be writing. As if these folks had never heard of changing the channel.

@@burningmisery true. Very good point.

Seriously, if he can go through the effort of writing and sending a letter, then I'm sure he can manage to just turn off MTV with even less effort exerted.

Fantastic David Bowie, this world lost a great entertainer and gentleman 💕

That was really the cherry on top of this whole interview.

The smile was genuine. The guy from MTV had just openly admitted what Bowie could only allude to. And good on the guy from MTV for a fairly frank, even if inadvertent, confession. A great example of how to address the elephant in the room.

@@nagualdesign fair point. Though I had the impression he wasn't happy with his answer. But that could just be me.

@@nagualdesign can you translate?

And he dated iman and had a baby with her while other people questioned there relationship because of there race

Problem is today being genuine can get you cancelled.

@@CasperLD I agree, but sometimes "being genuine" is being an asshole or people just don't understand.

*"meme school"*

@@DIEGOalmanza100 Funny thing is Bowie would get cancelled today because he slept with 13 year olds

minority is called minority for a reason

Black music and black culture has had a huge influence on America’s culture. It is not a Minority subculture, it is very main stream, pure racism from MTV.

@@oldcowbb and the minority has created the most popular genres, rock n roll, pop, and hip hop, so whats your point?

Exactly! That was a powerful confession that black people are not included in America!

@beckys2222 that's a really bad take considering white people back then still listened to black music regardless of mtv

"I understand your point of view"

The most respectful "no it is clearly not"

What a boss

He was thinking "this is complete bull crap".

His face was like “please let me leave now”

This is scripted. I have to wonder if any of the commenters here are over the age of 30.

​@@Dani92670 I don't think it's scripted, but I do think they knew what questions Bowie would be asking, and prepared answers that they deemed diplomatic. But I don't think they liked Bowie asking those questions.

@@Labroidas They probably had a set of questions and thought they would have just a nice little interview with a successful artist. But Bowie is on a completely different level, which was something they probably weren't prepared for.

@@Dani92670 Ya know, I just scoured the internet for anything saying that it's scripted. I found nothing that says it was from the well known sources. Quite the contrary. And I'm 34. But my brothers and sisters are 10+ years older than me.

but that doesn't make as much money, unfortunately. As a company, their number one concern is to make as much money as possible. It's just a sad reality.

@@WLxMusic How sad. They should go cry us a river.

@@WLxMusic oh no 😭. Money is more important than racial equality?! You're a moron

@@jacobwheeler1348 No, I think he/she was just announcing MTV’s position as a point of reference. Random Awesome wasn’t supporting that position.

@@jacobwheeler1348 I think someone who doesn't understand the difference between a person saying "someone is doing something" and saying "someone should be doing something" ought not to be calling anyone a moron.

Actually, he's dead and they just moved on to producing more degenerate culture destroying rubbish.

David Bowie is indeed a legend, and immortal, whatever corporeal form he's currently in.

Jesse Ventura implying he’s not a legend with your comment I see. Yes he’s dead but he’s also a legend

Jesse Ventura sure they’re around but come on. MTV is no where near where they once were. They don’t even play music anymore they are basically just a reality television station. The company could have been at the forefront of the digital revolution as they actually had a head start but they were slow to adapt. They are if not literally, figuratively dead. And Bowie is, though dead, a legend. That’s what OP meant.

Ironic how MTV is the one who posted this

Bowie and Darkseid have the same stare

Also when he said "I understand your point of view" but you're being totally offensive.

of course it is rare....people are less tolerant nowadays with racists.

Amen!!! Please bring manners back!!!!

I think it’s a very clever way of exposing some very shitty thinking. He’s giving the guy enough rope, knowing that he’ll eventually hang himself with it. Far more effective than shutting people down or taking away their platform, it instead puts bad ideas in the spotlight and showing them for what they are, rather than letting them fester away at the fringes. Louis Theroux also does this well, I wonder if he learned it from Bowie?

English manners.

"Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake". Bowie was a master here. He was letting the interviewer dig his own grave.

Ahead of his time? I have never even heard of anyone today that can dance around his opponent's words as gracefully as Bowie did. He didn't even raise his voice at all. He got everything he wanted out of the interviewer with the subtlest questions.

One Intelligent Dude 😎👍

he truly was inspiring

@@gugai trackin me down like that 🤬

@@lukedguy1253 can't hide from me

@@xafbxmoto269 Yes. The short response is, "Gender is not biological sex." But I doubt that convinced you, so if you have the patience for a short essay read on. Gender is what we think a stereotypical man or woman is. It is a loose collection of arbitrary attributes we decided makes someone male or female. As a thought experiment, try to list off the traits someone must have to belong to the male gender. Remember, saying "XY chromosomes" or mentioning sexually dimorphic anatomy is a erroneous conflation of the scientific topic of biological sex and the social topic of gender. These two things are separate discussions entirely, which solves the one of the most common misconceptions touted by gender binary stalwarts. With that prerequisite info out of the way, I assume you have a list of things that aren't related to genitalia or body hair right. (If I'm wrong in that assumption see explanation above for why those things are separate from gender.) What did you come up with? Is it: big dogs, cars, guns, steaks, leather jackets, fighting, football, explosions, construction, action movies, whiskey, cigars, or tattoos? (This list came from some silly article about manliness, lol.) If your list is anything like that then let me ask you something. If a man didn't do the things on your list and instead liked make up and modeling, is he not still a male? You wouldn't say he is female, would you? I am assuming you would not think of him as being of the female gender but instead maybe just feminine. So now we arrive at the next dilemma. Gender stereotypes are not accurate predictors of gender itself. Back in the day people used to refer to men who were well groomed, maybe used a little makeup, and wore designer clothes, as "metrosexual". I think this term has died out now, but those types of men have not. I remember some people saying they were "in touch with their feminine side" funnily enough. The point of this is to say that masculinity exists on a spectrum and if that is true, femininity must as well. But what if you can't quite place someone as masculine or feminine? What if they are somewhere in the middle of masculinity and femininity? We have taken to calling this androgyny for a long time now. They are somewhere between male and female, yet not quite one or the other. There are those felt that the in between state was part of their identity, the same way someone feels like a man or a woman. And if it is possible to occupy a gender that is neither male nor female but a third state in between, then what holds the rest of the system together. From there people who felt as though they weren't quite a man but not a woman either started to express and give name to the expression of their identity. Now I hope you understand a bit more about nonbinary gender identities. Don't get caught up in the 72 gender lines that trolls love to bring up, cause I'll give you my hypothesis on why there seem to be so many. It may be controversial but I honestly think it's evidenced by everything I have described thus far. That opinion being, gender isn't a spectrum. Gender is just a vestigial descriptor that we are trying to use is a society that doesn't need it anymore. Due to the fact that gender is an outdated meaningless collection of stereotypes. People who don't fit in the boxes make their own boxes to be in, when in fact, they never needed boxes in the first place. I can be confident in who I am without the need to be labeled a man. Idk if the world will arrive at that point in my life time though so w/e. It's just a thought. Either way, I hope you're actually interested in challenging your preconceptions and have at least a little drive to do so now. Modern society is rejecting these needlessly harmful and restrictive traditions. People naturally resist change and take it out on one another maliciously. Sometimes people can be straight up cruel, but I don't believe in unfounded malevolence. I (maybe naively) believe everyone is one paradigm shift away from a more peaceful mentality. Recognizing non-binary people is respectful and harms no one. Invalidating their gender identity psychology harms a lot of fellow, breathing, feeling humans and benefits no one. It's an easy choice for me.

@@Awesomeficationify What you're claiming is ridiculous. The whole gender stereotypes is because of certain expectations that have made society thrive for thousands of years. Why do women get the stereotype of wanting to be a mother and caregiver? Because the men aren't giving birth and are the ones to do their part by ensuring safety and being strong for the family. That's like saying since I don't like football, that makes me less of a man. No, it just means I personally don't care for it. It has nothing to do with any spectrum. And who cares if you don't fit a stereotype. Are you really that concerned about what I or anyone else has to say about it? So if you don't like even 1 of the "restrictions" based on yourself, that doesn't make you any less of a man or woman.

@Paul Wember My comment is about British mannerisms, nothing to do with anything you're on about. Don't be such a snowflake.

@Paul Wember Bruh what the fuck are you on about 😐

I love it, wish I could do the same

@Paul Wember I think it's because the rich people will have the immigrants be more likely to be gave a house in smaller towns, where an influx of people is much more noticeable

@Paul Wember Hey paul, you remind me of the Mark Goodman guy from this video I'm watching! An obsolete closeted racist