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David DeBatto - No More Delusions and Gaslighting Trump Fully Intends to Throw Ukraine Under the Bus 

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What a week - Russian media manipulation networks uncovered in the US - conservative influencers seem to be more influence by hard Russian cash than principles, however. Vance leaks the Trump plan to ‘stop Ukraine war in 24 hours’, and it turns out to be an appalling plan to appease Putin. Putin threatens WWIII, but with what army does he plan to fight it. And the big focus for this episode, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt for multiple felonies - here we are again with Trump the GOP candidate for president of the United States is engaged in a fractious and at times farcical election process. But will his criminal guilt, outlandish lies and conspiracy theories, incoherence, toxicity and clownishness have any influence on adherents to the MAGA cult or GOP officials? Might he be replaced after a disastrous electoral debate? And will those who support Ukraine, yet still canvas for his victory now wise up to his disastrous and craven plan to throw Ukraine under the bus? Buckle up. Not all of you will enjoy this one, some will love it, but here we go anyway.
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@derekaker
@derekaker 4 дня назад
As a former American Cold War soldier I could not agree more with every second of this interview.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain 4 дня назад
👍👍👍
@marcs990
@marcs990 4 дня назад
Well said sir. Our job now is to try & communicate this message in this video to as many fellow Americans as much as humanly possible. Also On Election Day offer to give a ride to people whom wish to vote Harris who can’t get out otherwise. The GOP old guard need the true evidence that the usual GOP party & people have been effectively hijacked by frankly a group of traitors trying to take our democracy & freedoms away from us. I’m a die hard GOP BUT I will actively be voting Harris as I’ve seen through their lies & misinformation that they try to hide behind the old guard policy but in fact are no more than a dictatorship. This is probably the most important election in our history. If trump gets in then it’s over & he is not the one who will have to live through the times to follow his actions. We need to get this message out to republicans that this isn’t what true republicans are, it’s not our belief’s or values. This time we must vote Harris o r at least abstain from voting at all this time round but voting Harris is the better way of the two choices as it’s a protest vote against what the GOP has become plus it’s sending the message that we want our values, beliefs, religion & democracy upheld & that they have moved away from this & we want it back. I’m angered that they have put forward trump & Vance. Are these two the best we have🤬. We would be winning now if at the start we had put forward a true democratic person whom is honest & not trying to throw a vail over our heads to hide behind what they really stand for & lie & twist their words in the hope that they can deceive us. Sorry but this time I just can’t bring myself to vote Trump, I just can’t. Get this message out to the many & post & repost on different videos/channels 🙏🙏🙏 I’m not losing my core values as a republican & I’m not voting trump.
@M1945
@M1945 3 дня назад
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@ronmonks6325
@ronmonks6325 2 дня назад
Then you are delusional. Sorry.
@derekaker
@derekaker 2 дня назад
@@ronmonks6325 Says the Russian bot-
@bernhardhaas8424
@bernhardhaas8424 4 дня назад
We know the traitors Jonathan! Thanks for your work! Slava Ukraini 💙 💛
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain 4 дня назад
👍👍👍🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@kentl7228
@kentl7228 4 дня назад
@@SiliconCurtain The below keeps getting removed as a comment reply elsewhere. Why? "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". I agree, that is the exact method that Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un etc use. They know Trump is a useful idiot, easily corrupted and can be taken advantage of by stroking his ego with flattery. For example... Why was the son of Constantine Nikolayev hired as a campaign manager for Trump? That is the same Constantine Nikolayev that shares 88% ownership of American Ethane with two other Russian nationals, Mikael Yuriev and Andrei Kunetbaev. All three are in the inner circle of Putin. American Ethane was a large donor to speaker Mike Johnson who, when it became public, gave the money back. This was proven by testimony of the convicted Russian spy Maria Butina. She tried to be influential with the Republicans via the NRA. Incidentally, Trump was promoting American Ethane when he went on a trip to China. Also, a Russian billionaire was a large donor to the Donald Trump app Truth Social. Meanwhile, it is interesting that the father of very pro Russia and Trump propagandist Tucker Carlson, has a corrupt seeming background. Dick Carlson runs the policy think tank and lobby group called Policy Impact. They have received a lot of money to promote the Hungarian government for Viktor Orban. The same president that is always trying pro Russian propaganda and influence. All the recent events with Tenet Media, with ex RT correspondent Lauren Chen as the co manager are another example of typically pro Trump activities by Russia. So it seems that Russian orchestrated propaganda has been said for a look time now, by Lauren Chen (Russian Millenial), Dave Rubin (Rouble Report), Tim Pool (Tim Fool), Benny Johnson, Lauren Southern etc. Now Candace Owens is added to the list and is under investigation. Margarita Simonyan, the editor in chief of RT, admitted on Russian TV that this has all been happening, and laughing with happiness at their successful work to corrupt USA public opinion. It seems that Trump is indeed the useful idiot.
@marcs990
@marcs990 4 дня назад
Well said. Are you American??
@kentl7228
@kentl7228 4 дня назад
@@marcs990 if you meant me, my comment keeps getting removed in any reply.
@marcs990
@marcs990 4 дня назад
@@kentl7228 which comment is that sir?
@mm5478
@mm5478 4 дня назад
Great talk. Couldn’t agree w/ you more. Ukraine must win not merely survive in some sort of diminished form.
@sativagirl1885
@sativagirl1885 4 дня назад
THE DONALD does #DEALS. Selling Ukraine to Israel as a Second Homeland prevents WWW3.
@andreabocchi6676
@andreabocchi6676 4 дня назад
What a formidable episode ! What a guest ! Mr Debatto is phenomenal for clarity of ideas, respect for truth and courage. The second part of his intervention, the one about the war in Ukraine, was stunning. If there was someone like him in place of that spineless worm of Sullivan, this war would have been won within its first year.
@andyreznick
@andyreznick 4 дня назад
A joke going around is that Russia's best air defense weapon is Jake Sullivan. Well, he's a lawyer. Lawyers 1. minimize risk and 2. cover their ass and their clients' asses. Lawyers and Politicians trying to play soldier - this is important - Doesn't Work. It creates a quagmire, which they need to find a way out of ultimately because of their bungling and lack of vision made an unpopular mess. We aren't there yet with Ukraine, but we are very much headed in that same old tired direction. Rant concluded.
@thomaslutro5560
@thomaslutro5560 4 дня назад
Thanks for being so forceful and clear on this. It really is becoming ever more of an embarrassment how we let this drag out. Russia needs to be pushed back inside their own borders, and made to understand they are to remain there.
@davebauman4991
@davebauman4991 3 дня назад
41:00
@AAB463
@AAB463 2 дня назад
The Russians believe they should run the world, not the west. It’s a hard cat to herd.
@jimsack1
@jimsack1 4 дня назад
Was there ever any question about Trump’s intentions? How naive to think otherwise.
@JabesMcJabesface
@JabesMcJabesface 3 дня назад
Trump supporters love to argue that he is the best for Ukraine, the best for LGBT rights, etc. etc., I really could continue that list. The entire purpose is to make their people doubt that there is any such thing as truth, so they can believe whatever they want
@wicker1234
@wicker1234 3 дня назад
@@JabesMcJabesface The sect mentality, DT is their 'spiritual' leader....😵‍💫
@warhorse03826
@warhorse03826 2 дня назад
@@wicker1234 go to a rally and watch what happens when he talks about "operation warpspeed". he is BOOED. not exactly what you present.
@alexandernazarenko4747
@alexandernazarenko4747 4 дня назад
Thank you, Jonathan! Thank you, mr. DeBatto!
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain 4 дня назад
👍👍👍
@Lucy-fq8rj
@Lucy-fq8rj 4 дня назад
Another great guest and discussion. The quality of the content and guests on this channel are always outstanding! Thank you Johnathan for consistently bringing us superb content. You always, as a presenter, ask extremely important and interesting questions and then do the best thing an interviewer can do, which is to sit in silence without interrupting and instead actually intently listen to your guest! ❤️👏👏👏🇬🇧🇺🇦
@searchingforsanity4170
@searchingforsanity4170 4 дня назад
Good job getting this guy on. We need more like him to join the crew...
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain 4 дня назад
👍👍👍
@edwardwaters3820
@edwardwaters3820 3 дня назад
USA 🇺🇸 for Ukraine 🇺🇦 Americans for democracy
@MrBudgiejoe
@MrBudgiejoe 4 дня назад
As a European, I honestly can’t understand how any American can even consider voting for Trump for the most important position in the world. Character does matter and Trump is so far from Presidential material, it’s frightening. That man is a monster. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
@ropeburnsrussell
@ropeburnsrussell 4 дня назад
I cant explain the devotion he inspires, but it's all too real. I am terrified for my country.
@BrianCrooks-iv8lm
@BrianCrooks-iv8lm 4 дня назад
Completely agree! It's baffling! 🇬🇧
@nian60
@nian60 4 дня назад
Same. It's Germany in the 1930's all over again.
@symbionese2348
@symbionese2348 4 дня назад
The answer to your implied question is available, but it requires about an hour of well-worded explanation. It has to do with the gradual assumption that democracy is indestructible, that each vote does not matter, and ennui with throwing the lever this way or that in the voting booth when it has seemed to make so little difference to the society and each voter. The deterioration of quality in our public schools is instrumental to this syndrome, and is a part of the systematic dismantling of interest in our governance perpetrated by one political party and unaddressed by the other. Thank you for your concern with the United States of America. We need your friendship.
@arekkusub6877
@arekkusub6877 4 дня назад
USA will throw us all "under the bus", when it gets too risky regarding Russia, so better to develop our own resilience and deterrence capabilities, when it wasn't already too late...
@stepsvideos
@stepsvideos 4 дня назад
"We have less than two months to save our democracy". At least we can agree on that.
@wicker1234
@wicker1234 3 дня назад
It wouldn't be easy. I have seen a lot of channels spreading crazy rumors about what would happen if DT looses, all of them are foreign. In fact, I have read many comments from immigrants from Russia who voted for DT already, even though they don't care about making America great again, because some already left USA, others planed to do so in the near future, they dislike what's happening in USA. I'm fluent in Russian.
@mpgrenda
@mpgrenda 3 дня назад
"Two months to save our democracy?? That phrase is just pure propaganda put out by Trump haters. What kind of people actually believe this nonsense? Anyone who thinks Trump would take over as some kind of dictator is dillusional. Stop the propaganda!
@paulbrouyere1735
@paulbrouyere1735 4 дня назад
Sorry to say, European here. You have to be completely out of your mind to vote for someone telling you beforehand he’s going to be an autocrat from day one. I live not far away from Hitlers bunker in Belgium headquarters when WW2 started. We all know what happened after that…
@AS-np3yq
@AS-np3yq 4 дня назад
EU is not democratic either...
@meilinchan7314
@meilinchan7314 4 дня назад
But a lot of people in Asian nations don't get the point.
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 4 дня назад
@@AS-np3yq It's not as democratic as it should be but it's a damn' sight more democratic than Russia. Of course you will ignore that, as your boss in the Kremlin tells you what to think.
@barnabyjonesdangerdog758
@barnabyjonesdangerdog758 4 дня назад
As an American, I couldn't agree more. It's appalling that Trump has a chance of getting back in.
@hakangustavsson3538
@hakangustavsson3538 4 дня назад
​@@AS-np3yqYou mean Hungary, of course. Yes, I know. Unfortunately they are run by a Russian agent. Sad story.
@PeterMarxx-WashingtonDc
@PeterMarxx-WashingtonDc 4 дня назад
China sees how weak Russia is 😂 Anyone can easily enter that country
4 дня назад
The Poles are frothing at the bit to have a crack at Putler.
@BrianCrooks-iv8lm
@BrianCrooks-iv8lm 4 дня назад
@@PeterMarxx-WashingtonDc 😂
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 4 дня назад
Aye, with Finnish school kids wandering across the border into Russia unchallenged this week. So much for NATO being an existential threat when Russia pulls out all the border force to go die in Ukraine...
@markb8468
@markb8468 3 дня назад
The joke is; NATO only exists to keep the Poles from invading russia
@patrickdonohue530
@patrickdonohue530 3 дня назад
China sees cheap real estate up north.
@raulvinals
@raulvinals 4 дня назад
TOTALLY AGREE. From a Cuban Canadian, Toronto, Canada Slava Ukraini ❤️💖❤
@tamarasidlartchouk3138
@tamarasidlartchouk3138 4 дня назад
Thank you Jonathan for inviting David Debatto again. I highly appreciate his views , his sense of humour , and obviously, totally agree with David. 🇺🇦👍👍👏♥️
@michaelwulff4242
@michaelwulff4242 4 дня назад
Jonathan, you have the voice of rationality. May it not be drowned out by screamers of the MAGA right! And may this wish not be delusional! (It’s so easy to become disheartened!)
@PenStab
@PenStab 4 дня назад
There's no political party in the US remotely left or progressive enough to represent my views, but I've been all in for our support of Ukraine since the beginning of the invasion. It should be a no-brainer ethically, strategically, politically, practically, economically. Despite the Democrats being too centrist or even conservative in some regards for my tastes, especially in their support of arming Israel against innocent Palestinian civilians, I'll be voting for Harris. In big part because of her support for Ukraine and my fear of Trump's "plan" and because I do fear the looming fascism he represents.
4 дня назад
Same here. 🇨🇦 CANADA 🇨🇦
@wicker1234
@wicker1234 3 дня назад
DT openly likes and has been supportive of dictators. He called Putin and Orbach great leaders, the Egypt dictator - 'my favourite dictator'...
@AllenGraetz
@AllenGraetz 2 дня назад
The US helps to arm Israel to help it fight against Hamas. Any perception that the arms are to be used against innocent Arabs is purely a mistake on your part.
@WhiteGoldtube
@WhiteGoldtube 4 дня назад
First time I've heard debatto. Impressed with his clarity of thinking.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain 4 дня назад
👍👍👍
@esakoivuniemi
@esakoivuniemi 4 дня назад
Thank you for saying it as it is.
@markb8468
@markb8468 3 дня назад
DJT is 100% right about 1 thing. The world is laughing at us....because of him.
@DarkestAlice
@DarkestAlice 4 дня назад
Thank you, Jonathan, for inviting David DeBatto again. Thank you, David DeBatto, for this excellent conversation. To all U.S. citizens who are still in doubt: Trump will NEVER forgive President Zelenskyy for not giving him "dirt on the Biden family". He will destroy everything that the U.S.A. stands for, just for getting back to him. He is all about retribution. He told us many times. 🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet 4 дня назад
That's exactly what I thought, he'll feed Ukraine to the bear and ask for favours too. 🤬 Ukraine deserves better. 🇺🇦🔱
@DarkestAlice
@DarkestAlice 4 дня назад
@@ninemoonplanet I truly believe so. And I think that everyone should take this more serious in the U.S.A. - he announces what he intends to do. He will destroy the institutions and all people who spoke out against him. Just imagine, the U.S.A. as we know being dismantled and going complete Handmaid's Tale. So scary... 🇺🇦 Слава партизанам! 🇺🇦
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain 4 дня назад
👍👍👍🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@AAB463
@AAB463 2 дня назад
@@ninemoonplanetnot only Ukraine but the world. No one like Trump should be allowed to even run for office in any country.
@RitchiSloan
@RitchiSloan 4 дня назад
This is top Jonathan and David ! Thanks for your clear words ! 🎉🫶🏻🇺🇦🇬🇧🇳🇱🫶🏻🎉
@chriszenko3598
@chriszenko3598 4 дня назад
No question about Trump selling Ukraine out he keeps saying what a great leader Putin. asset Victor Orban is and mentioned that during the debate
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain 4 дня назад
👍👍👍
@sebastianthomsen2225
@sebastianthomsen2225 4 дня назад
SLAVA UKRAINE!💙💛✌😊🌻🔱
@danfeutz6911
@danfeutz6911 2 дня назад
Send MAGA to Moscow and see what happens when they complain about Putin.
@AAB463
@AAB463 2 дня назад
What an education that would be for the low iq cult!
@dianetourje1359
@dianetourje1359 4 дня назад
I couldn't agree with both of you more!
@lisbethmllegaard8437
@lisbethmllegaard8437 4 дня назад
Question from Denmark: what does “radical left” actually mean in America?
@GeistInTheMachine
@GeistInTheMachine 4 дня назад
It means slightly left of center.
@18_rabbit
@18_rabbit 4 дня назад
at this point it means little really, apparently means similar to slightly left of center in most euro countries, which even to me, as an american pretty familiar w/ european life and politics, is amazing. We yanks have gone thru a tremendously bad transformation over a mere 20 years, literally from normal to fascist-adjacent, truly, i am NOT exaggerating. The attitudes widely expressed or openly expresed, etc, the anger, the violence as a regular theme and solution to daily strains, is alarming and we need moral support at this time from our european brethren/sistren
@nian60
@nian60 4 дня назад
It seems to mean any people who are not insane MAGA's.
@ropeburnsrussell
@ropeburnsrussell 4 дня назад
It means anti capitalists. The social stuff is more negotiable.
@richarddietzen3137
@richarddietzen3137 4 дня назад
For this guy, I think it’s anti-minority representation.
@vonries
@vonries 4 дня назад
I'm getting to the point where I only get pissed off anymore. It doesn't feel constructive.
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet 4 дня назад
I had to learn the hard way, but I learned that anger is nothing more than energy. You can let it become bottled up, or you can use that energy to get something done, perhaps saying "to hell with this, get this done" even if it just cleaning a room. It works.
@LiberalinOregon
@LiberalinOregon 4 дня назад
My frustration is toward the “ justice department” and the not very “supreme court .” Both have failed to stop trump and his megas in congress.
@EEX97623
@EEX97623 3 дня назад
Channel it to action, strength, determination
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 4 дня назад
Jake Sullivan's actions make one ponder as to with which country his loyalties might lie...
@EEX97623
@EEX97623 3 дня назад
He’s ensuring his biography reads like a bed wetter’s guide to avoiding challenging situations
@irishexerset
@irishexerset 4 дня назад
excellent observations, I disagree on the margin, Harris will win by a relatively huge margin
@michaelc3416
@michaelc3416 4 дня назад
As an American, and a 60 year old lifelong republican that is DEEPLY opposed to Donald Trump, I wouldn't be so sure! Yes, I have a difficult time understanding how ANYONE could vote for him. To me, it's OBVIOUS that he cannot be allowed back in the Whitehouse! And yet, the polls indicate that he has a very strong following. We must remember two important facts; one being the statistical fact that almost 50% of the population is of below average intelligence, and that the vast majority of Americans simply aren't that politically engaged. The largest percentage of republicans simply vote republican regardless, and really don't pay attention to the details surrounding the candidate. And then there's the MAGA cult which is a VERY real thing... Cultism is a phenomenon that has been discussed with one of Johnathon's guests here in the past. And I have seen it's effects with the Trump cult, where no amount of logic, or even their own observations will change their minds, because it has became too much of their own personal identity.
@sebastianthomsen2225
@sebastianthomsen2225 4 дня назад
PLEASE VOTE B L U E ! 🥺🙏💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
@oskarmatzerath3233
@oskarmatzerath3233 4 дня назад
Slava Ukraini
@mike4480
@mike4480 4 дня назад
Glory to All of the Heroes of Ukraine … 💙💛💙
@klarinuskuipers8999
@klarinuskuipers8999 4 дня назад
I wonder why we no longer talk about Trump's properties in Moscow and how Putin has leverage over him.
@AJNpa80
@AJNpa80 4 дня назад
Or the Chinese bank accounts. He'll sell NATO for a branded golf course and hotel. He'd sell Ukraine for a compliment. I just wish his daddy Putin would have told him to keep the ball gag in until he came back.
@neiltitmus9744
@neiltitmus9744 4 дня назад
Yes why is that
@kentl7228
@kentl7228 4 дня назад
Perhaps video evidence from a Moscow hotel room will make him compliant Regarding propaganda... "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". I agree, that is the exact method that Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un etc use. They know Trump is a useful idiot, easily corrupted and can be taken advantage of by stroking his ego with flattery. For example... Why was the son of Constantine Nikolayev hired as a campaign manager for Trump? That is the same Constantine Nikolayev that shares 88% ownership of American Ethane with two other Russian nationals, Mikael Yuriev and Andrei Kunetbaev. All three are in the inner circle of Putin. American Ethane was a large donor to speaker Mike Johnson who, when it became public, gave the money back. This was proven by testimony of the convicted Russian spy Maria Butina. She tried to be influential with the Republicans via the NRA. Incidentally, Trump was promoting American Ethane when he went on a trip to China. Also, a Russian billionaire was a large donor to the Donald Trump app Truth Social. Meanwhile, it is interesting that the father of very pro Russia and Trump propagandist Tucker Carlson, has a corrupt seeming background. Dick Carlson runs the policy think tank and lobby group called Policy Impact. They have received a lot of money to promote the Hungarian government for Viktor Orban. The same president that is always trying pro Russian propaganda and influence. All the recent events with Tenet Media, with ex RT correspondent Lauren Chen as the co manager are another example of typically pro Trump activities by Russia. So it seems that Russian orchestrated propaganda has been said for a look time now, by Lauren Chen (Russian Millenial), Dave Rubin (Rouble Report), Tim Pool (Tim Fool), Benny Johnson, Lauren Southern etc. Now Candace Owens is added to the list and is under investigation. Margarita Simonyan, the editor in chief of RT, admitted on Russian TV that this has all been happening, and laughing with happiness at their successful work to corrupt USA public opinion. It seems that Trump is indeed the useful idiot.
@effexon
@effexon 4 дня назад
he didnt sell those as everyone else is supposed to do? (from european viewpoint.... media publications keep track of companies still there)
@kentl7228
@kentl7228 4 дня назад
@@klarinuskuipers8999 Putin may have some hotel footage of Trump to keep him obedient. There are corruption links all the way to Trump
@nightspore4850
@nightspore4850 3 дня назад
I’m with Jake Broe on this. Sometimes--hopefully rarely--you have to be a single-issue voter. So I’m going to take a handful of anti-nausea pills and vote for Harris. I absolutely detest the Democrats, but Trump has left me no choice. It’s sad when you are voting based on who will end up hurting the country less, but here we are.
@asfafasdad384
@asfafasdad384 4 дня назад
Ye its a fact and they still dont voice victory for Ukraine, cuz they had these agreements. Its so stupid to believe that russia would stop on Ukrain. Its like believing that Hitler would respect molotov ribentrop pact and not attack ussr
@markb8468
@markb8468 3 дня назад
DJT needs to win so he can pardon himself to keep his own as$ out of prison. The man has never had a thought that wasn't entirely self centered.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain 3 дня назад
Agreed.
@wicker1234
@wicker1234 3 дня назад
And at the same time Putin and other dictators count on him. DT openly admired such autocratic leaders, even called the Egypt one 'my favourite dictator' who was the first dictator DT met with in the White House as soon as he became president in January, 2017.
@RADECMONEBAL
@RADECMONEBAL 2 дня назад
Great interview. Thank you for fighting the good fight, guys! Do not let evil win!
@johnwilliams2660
@johnwilliams2660 4 дня назад
Well said, thanks
@bobbybowling2424
@bobbybowling2424 4 дня назад
I understand what you are saying... I'm a Regan Republican and voted for him on his second term... I will never vote for the Trump... Maga... It so sad that Americans don't appreciate what the Republicans are about... It's like I can discuss it with anyone... January 6th is nothing to them... My son is one of them 😢😢
@betterdonotanswer
@betterdonotanswer 4 дня назад
Ukraine is already under that figurative bus, which is a quite literal Muscovite tank, so that would be more like slipping the last hale hand under its track but, this is just a metaphor. In the reality Ukraine fought against Muscovy for centuries before the emergence of the USA and regardless of all its presidents taken together. Moreover, Ukraine continued the fight even when the USA was an ally of Muscovy in 1917-1945.
@CynthiaBlair
@CynthiaBlair 4 дня назад
Trump is a cult leader...he's old 78, once he's gone, who will take his place as a cult leader?
@hunterphung3638
@hunterphung3638 4 дня назад
there are many mini Trump. Tulsi, Velvem, Elon, Tucker....Maga is like communist it in every where now. it controls supreme court. it controls churches, it try to control you if they can't they will destroy you.
@wicker1234
@wicker1234 3 дня назад
He is also a militant gang leader, like fascists, white supremacists, just violent dudes.
@Iwantalloftheinformation
@Iwantalloftheinformation День назад
Maga think he will resurrect like Jesus.
@user-ek5wq7df5c
@user-ek5wq7df5c 4 дня назад
Great video! 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇸🇺🇳
@GMT_400
@GMT_400 4 дня назад
50%, tight. Democracy 🤘
@astarodub
@astarodub 4 дня назад
Brilliant discussion
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet 4 дня назад
This abuse of the term "socialist" is truly annoying. Socialism is people pooling money to provide services to the entire population, ie: police, fire department, air traffic control, environmental protection, worker's safety, State patrol, the military, the government agencies, the Congress itself and the Senate and all the staff, plus the judiciary. That IS socialism. Public health is one of the most known. Please do NOT conflate socialism with what the USSR was, they're not the same thing. The far left, in real terms doesn't exist in the US. The democracy will stand if the inner structures are there. It may become one hell of a mess if Project 2025 is enacted.
@andyreznick
@andyreznick 4 дня назад
Well done. Solid take, in my opinion.
@honahwikeepa2115
@honahwikeepa2115 4 дня назад
Socialism would work if people were perfect. They're not and eventually greed takes over.
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 4 дня назад
Umm, no. Socialism is the ownership of a nation's means of production by the people.
@stevenpace892
@stevenpace892 4 дня назад
Resources are pooled by cultural constructs in functional cultures. Socialism is an anti-culture phenomenon just like MAGA.
@LiberalinOregon
@LiberalinOregon 4 дня назад
Thank you, I was irritated by this fellow trashing the left. They are not anywhere near the danger of a trump presidency. There are ppl involved in an attempted coup sitting in congress who will vote to certify the upcoming election! I want the DoJ to explain why these traitors still have government jobs.
@danburnes722
@danburnes722 4 дня назад
There is no real Republicans left. It is a time for a new party.
@wicker1234
@wicker1234 3 дня назад
💯👍 Just DT's gang of violent thugs and cult of ignorant simpletons...
@W0tn3xt
@W0tn3xt 4 дня назад
If Trumpf loses he's threatening to move to another country (those legal fees are starting to really bite). Unfortunately my local bookie is not taking bets on which country that would be... yet. I know what my money would be on
@MrBudgiejoe
@MrBudgiejoe 4 дня назад
Yep, Russia! There should be preparations in place that if Trump loses and try to skip the country, that he be arrested and charged before leaves. The US should also have plans ready for mayhem if he loses. He will not take defeat gracefully, that’s a certainty 😩
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet 4 дня назад
He won't be allowed to even enter quite a few countries. They have laws barring convicted felons from entering the country. Most of them are in the EU or/and NATO. IF he's convicted on Federal charges it's not going to change this, possibly make him barred from some other countries. This stands as of right now. He can't pardon himself from State charges, so the conviction in NY State stands unless the Governor gives him a pardon, again highly unlikely.
@LiberalinOregon
@LiberalinOregon 4 дня назад
Crucial time is between the election and his sentencing.
@wicker1234
@wicker1234 3 дня назад
@@LiberalinOregon The judges he appointed moved his court hearings after the election....
@donnievance1942
@donnievance1942 3 дня назад
@@LiberalinOregon No. The crucial time is between the election and the installation of the new president. Once Kamal Harris is installed, the Donald is over. After that point violence from the right will be dealt with simply and quickly, and Drumpf will be headed to the completion of his legal cases and jail. The maddening thing is that if Biden and Garland weren't such weaklings, all this could have been accomplished already. They had FOUR YEARS, and their political timidity kept them from taking decisive action.
@Donovanwashere
@Donovanwashere 4 дня назад
🇺🇸🇺🇦🇺🇸🇺🇦 great work, Jonathan!!
@DavidConroy-e1g
@DavidConroy-e1g 3 дня назад
What a fantastic rant! And absolutely correct. Thanks Jonathan.
@18_rabbit
@18_rabbit 4 дня назад
excellent interview!!
@kevinleecaster2698
@kevinleecaster2698 4 дня назад
I am glad that you appear to coming around towards reality about the danger of Trumpism.
@kevinleecaster2698
@kevinleecaster2698 4 дня назад
To bring up the Squad in your efforts to smear the left without bringing up the fact that Democrats kicked about half of them out this year is journalistic malpractice
@docbogus6128
@docbogus6128 3 дня назад
Watching that sleaze Vance talking about Ukraine is like watching John Gotti talking about how his beautiful city could be improved.
@virginiaoflaherty2983
@virginiaoflaherty2983 4 дня назад
Some thinks I can't listen to. I will read the transcript. I listen to your presentations and interviews all the time, and appreciate them ...but this election is so fraught that I was suffering from heart arrhythmia until I stopped listening to real peoples voices.
@18_rabbit
@18_rabbit 4 дня назад
indeed! Please take good care of yourself at this time. Times like this literally harm and even kill ppl regullarly, vs normal times. Not that super young David Knowles, the wonderful journo of the Telegraph daily show on Ukr, who died suddenly while travelling to Gibralatar last week may have died of strain, but it IS possible, even in a young person (he also may have been killed by the bad guys, it is entirely possible). But i kinda suspect natural causes, and that's bcuz like i said, times like this create extraordinary internal strain in thoughtful people, intelligent people, as well as sensitive people.
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet 4 дня назад
Your health, mental and physical IS more important than listening to a conversation that causes stress. Be kind to yourself FIRST and always. Treat yourself like you would your best friend. 🫂
@amoonbeams
@amoonbeams 3 дня назад
Take care of yourself. I have issues listening to russian disinfo tv. They tick me off with their lies and propaganda. I feel my chest tightening when I watch.
@donnievance1942
@donnievance1942 3 дня назад
@@amoonbeams If you literally feel your chest tightening, you should go get checked out by a cardiologist. Take it from someone who just had a heart-attack. The most common cause of heart attacks is a blocked coronary artery. If you take care of it ahead of a crisis, the installation of a stent to open it up is an outpatient-procedure that takes little time and you go home without probably even spending a night in the hospital. They fish that thing in through an artery in your arm or leg and you avoid all the damage to your heart that results from a heart attack.
@amoonbeams
@amoonbeams 3 дня назад
@@donnievance1942 thank you for your advice. ❤ Sincerely. We all need reminding to take care of ourselves. ❤
@annemarie3140
@annemarie3140 4 дня назад
Wow...just wow. Great show!
@williamrizzo8574
@williamrizzo8574 4 дня назад
21:26 the proposals of “the squad” are considered moderate in Europe. Only Corrie bush said defund the police. Saying they support “extreme” “socialist” agendas is literally propagating the division you speak of
@hakangustavsson3538
@hakangustavsson3538 4 дня назад
What a gem Jonathan brought in this interview. I had not observed him before. His analysis of the inner workings of today's republican party was very interesting. I hurried to try to find David's web site. It took me a while so let me state that the name of it is No Delusion Zone. I am now happily subscribed. Thanks for your continued efforts Jonathan! Glory to Ukraine!
@dananderson7394
@dananderson7394 2 дня назад
Great to see William Shatner again, and glad he is so level headed on these issues!
@bill_911
@bill_911 4 дня назад
There is no comparison between the radical right and what the speaker calls the radical left. The radical left is not much different from the mainstream left in Europe and they have never exhibited anti-democratic tendencies.
@donnievance1942
@donnievance1942 3 дня назад
Absolutely. The so called "radical left" in the US does not really exist. Gray Zone, etc. are nothing but contrarian tools. They don't represent the left at all. They're Trump tools, for God's sake, and their audiences are right-wingers and some very confused people. The Squad is not "radical left," and they certainly don't support extreme positions like the actual defunding of the police or "open borders." Anyway, "defund the police" never really meant anything but the transfer of some police functions to social service agencies that are better suited to handle them. And literally nobody I know of supports just opening our borders with no controls. The whole idea that there is a "radical left" who are dupes of Russian propaganda like there are on the right is just nonsense. It's another version of both-sides-ism. That's the only thing about DeBatto's talk that I didn't like. He's spot-on otherwise. And he at least recognizes that the danger from the right is much greater than from his fictitious "radical left." There is a faux left consisting of people like Tim Poole (who at least used to call himself "left") and the Gray Zone, but there is no radical left in the US that we ever hear from. Such people are very rare, and to whatever extent they exist, they're not supporters of the right-wing Russian government. No one who bolsters Putin is "left." Putin is a right-wing dictator, and actual left people are vehemently opposed to his project. Russia is no longer the Soviet Union. It's an oligarchic, capitalist, fascist state. Nobody who supports it is "left." That would be an oxymoron.
@beachcaster56
@beachcaster56 3 дня назад
I like Trump... but not on two issues...........Ukraine and Abortion. So I have changed my mind and think Harris must win.
@brianharroun7105
@brianharroun7105 4 дня назад
Great truthful conversation!!!
@karljensen893
@karljensen893 4 дня назад
Your output is phenomenal and relevant more than ever .. much admired.
@Dalwhinnie15
@Dalwhinnie15 2 дня назад
Keep up the great work, Jonathan. This is too important.
@samedwards6683
@samedwards6683 3 дня назад
Slava Ukraini. Heroyam Slava.
@Scrapbrass-bk1ki
@Scrapbrass-bk1ki 3 дня назад
Just started listening to Dave in the last 2 months Like it
@dbsteckey
@dbsteckey 4 дня назад
Trump’s appalling plan indeed
@mushdogful
@mushdogful 3 дня назад
What really resonated with me was when Mr DeBatto talked about how moderate Muslims are criticized for not calling out Islamic extremists, and so, by that logic, moderate Christians need to call out extremists in their faith. My father has always complained that moderate Muslims need to make more noise, and so I have gone out of my way to do this with my own faith. Make no mistake: I'm not a moderate Christian. I'm a devout Christian who is politically moderate, and I am disgusted how so many of us cherry pick what we like from our faith to the point of supporting a madman who has very likely broken ALL of the Ten Commandments.
@bobjohnson4810
@bobjohnson4810 3 дня назад
Thank you so much for this interview!!!
@robertmiskey5502
@robertmiskey5502 4 дня назад
Great interview!
@FransWentholt
@FransWentholt 4 дня назад
💙💙💙💙💙 💛💙💛💙🇺🇦
@markendicott6874
@markendicott6874 3 дня назад
With all the other bodies under the Trump Bus you wouldn't think he had room for an entire Country, but here we are ......
@blueslsd
@blueslsd 18 часов назад
Vote trump vote Putin 😢😢😢😢
@jonno27
@jonno27 4 дня назад
Anyone who is only just now realising that Trump and his party belong to Russia really hasn’t been paying attention.
@wicker1234
@wicker1234 3 дня назад
Not only to Russia, he openly admired dictators, calling them great leaders. He even called the dictator of Egypt 'my favourite dictator' who was the first world leader DT met when becoming president in January 2017.
@marionhutton8141
@marionhutton8141 3 дня назад
Wow, that was an excellent interview , was a true 👍 explosive take on the American thinking ❤
@terryhand
@terryhand 3 дня назад
Was there ever any doubt about what Trump's claim that he could end the war in a day really meant?
@paulwatson8809
@paulwatson8809 4 дня назад
As media's role has devolved from providing information to the maximization of revenue, we have seen the intensification of societal polarization. The Kremlin's propagandists and botniks have found fertile ground here. We have made it easy for them to amplify the loudest voices in each echo chamber that suits their purpose. Thank you Jonathan for taking on the thankless role of directing our ears to the voice of reason.
@stevenpace892
@stevenpace892 4 дня назад
You are so wrong about swift. First she simply encouraged everyone to vote. American VIPs have always made such statements. Trump responded angrily. Swift's response was to not be bullied. Then some Trump supporter did a deep fake of swift endorsement of Trump. She was forced to endorse Harris. From the beginning she was happy to keep making music and money and stay out of politics, but Trump had to be Trump, and as it of does, it backfired.
@EEX97623
@EEX97623 3 дня назад
Much like Putin’s rally cry against NATO, going into Ukraine, then previously neutral Finland and Sweden joining NATO. These two are actually seen by some as master tacticians and “stable genius” 😂
@NoDelusionZone
@NoDelusionZone 2 дня назад
Really? If you had actually listened to what I said, I agreed although it appeared at first to be not so serious an issue, Taylor Swift's endorsement probably was more important than Dick Cheney's or his daughter (Liz), and most likely brought hundreds of thousands of votes to the democrats. So what exactly was I wrong about?
@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg
@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg 3 дня назад
Putin may be losing on the battllefield, but if Trump wins in November, so does he. What a depressing prospect.
@Deepblueseafever
@Deepblueseafever 4 дня назад
Democracies work better when there are more than 2 political parties. When is America planning to wake up to this fact.
@franksemi_modular
@franksemi_modular 4 дня назад
@Silicon Curtain Yes thank you for your awesome and important work Jonathan! - David DeBatto sais it strait out as it is. Unfortunately many people even in a country as Denmark where I am from don't pay attention at all. Most people don't follow the Ukraine news closely anymore and what little information that are to be found in national television news and newspapers does not portray how serious this point in time is at all and have rarely any detailed information or is days old. And it is so frustrating to say the least that Danes are not following proper news. Russias hybrid information warfare, in terms of pure information fatigue/overload, is clearly also working and I think it affects even the mainstream news to cut down on news from Ukraine and Russia. Many people didn't even watched the Trump / Harris debate and didn't even hear about the "eating the cat and dog's" quote. I wrote with many friends and colleagues about it and they were clueless about it. Trump was the clown man everyone were talking about some years back and of course on jan 6 2021. Now the only people who want to talk about him are Trump supporters. Yes there is Trump supporters in Denmark. It is just ridiculous
@Luckydog557
@Luckydog557 4 дня назад
Signing off. I can tell I don’t belong in this crowd. The US election is not a one issue election.
@joelee3716
@joelee3716 3 дня назад
It's OK that you rate lower taxes or deportation of immigrants ahead of defending ukraine and the world order, but don't kid yourself what you are voting for in regard to ukranians and on the foreign policy front.
@EEX97623
@EEX97623 3 дня назад
Who said it is a “one issue election”?
@NoDelusionZone
@NoDelusionZone 2 дня назад
"The US election is not a one issue election." Hmmm, that's true, if you believe that voting for a dictatorship and the end of our democracy is just part of the overall policies you are voting for, you know, "This is just another boring election. There are so many stupid political issues to consider, my oh my, what to do! If you believe that the choice between voting for a democracy or voting for a dictatorship is not really the ONLY important issue in this election, then you live in another universe than most of us. And as such, signing off here is probably a wise decision. Do Svidaniya.
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 2 дня назад
Democracy is a matter of commitment. Australia's democracy is 124 years old and is as strong as it has ever been. I hope it remains that way. When Australia's founders were drawing up our constitution they looked very closely at the American model. They borrowed a few aspects but decided the American system left far too much to chance. Instead they came up with a better model that put democracy front and centre. Australia's take on democracy may not be perfect, but it is pretty good. I am forever thankful our founders set it up the way they did.
@cthree87
@cthree87 4 дня назад
Nice to hear from the middle
@Keefs_c.c.89
@Keefs_c.c.89 2 дня назад
I gotta say I can’t agree with all this man says. First off it wasn’t Joe Biden’s ego that kept him from dropping out sooner. It was made personal by Trump, doesn’t mean that the shoe couldn’t have been on the other foot. But with his empathy and compassion for all Americans, he probably (and I could be wrong) felt in his heart that that was what America needed in that moment giving all that was occurring. With his experience vs. VP Harris. But don’t get me wrong, I’m grateful he dropped out. It gives me hope that Harris can begin to fix what DJT destroyed. We have a long ways to go and I’m sure human destruction will occur, but that’s what the GOP/RU created. A proxy war of our own on our soil. I for one hope our future is brighter than not. But it won’t be easy. We really need to crack down on the troll farms and the hacks.
@Miranda-i4c
@Miranda-i4c 2 дня назад
My only quibble is that Harris’s domestic policies a republican voter might object to are still just microcosmic versions of why we support Ukraine… rights of self determination, laws to apply to all equally, defense of minorities etc
@davemorse3966
@davemorse3966 13 часов назад
Thank you so much.
@gozzog
@gozzog 4 дня назад
Europe can't defend itself. Oh no.
@EEX97623
@EEX97623 3 дня назад
No? Okay, so who is willing to prove this? You really think NATO can’t put down what’s left of russia? 😂 Poland and Nordics alone would have a field day.
@MikeEngland-u5x
@MikeEngland-u5x 3 дня назад
Or more like Twump plans to save Putler and gets all his news via RT. So nothing new here then.😂
@Arvind-fs5zh
@Arvind-fs5zh 3 дня назад
Thank you for a balanced assessment of incredulous political dogma and "naked self-interest" of certain politicians. Sadly, they have the 'soundbites' capable of hoodwinking segments of an unsuspecting population ! Overheard a comment: "Make America Greatly Apocalyptic" 🚨
@A_kiwis_view
@A_kiwis_view 4 дня назад
David, beware of false equivalences the far right has very different priorities, the left are more concerned with equality whereas the right are more about dominance.
@-MDCCLXXVI-
@-MDCCLXXVI- 4 дня назад
The left is very much concerned about control and taking your freedom away in the name of whatever they decide to call "equality"
@NoDelusionZone
@NoDelusionZone 2 дня назад
I totally agree that the far-right is FAR more dangerous than even the most radical far left groups or individuals in America. If I left you with any other impression, I apologize. MAGA and the entire current Republican Party is a domestic terrorist organization. No left-wing group even comes close to that. Radical right-wing groups are the number one danger to our national security according to the FBI, and I concur 100%.
@NoDelusionZone
@NoDelusionZone День назад
You need to actually LISTEN to ALL of my words. I never made false equivilences to the right and left in America. In fact, I stated ad nauseum that the right wing in America today (MAGA/GOP/Trump) is the main and far and away the number one danger to our national security. I also stated that the Republican Party today is a domestic terrorist organization. How could I be any clearer? I get a litlle irritated that folks on the left (regardless of nationality) can't even take hearing (or considering) that there is, in fact, a small radical element in the left/progrssive wing of the Democratic Party in America. That isn't necessarily bad, it's just a fact. But again, it is NOT remotely as dangerous to our democracy as is MAGA/GOP/Trump, but it exists, and some of their positions on issues that clearly lie outside of mainstream thought of even of most democrats, gives MAGA ammunition for their absurd and false rhetoric and accusations against liberals and democracy. I'm sorry if even mentioning that fact triggers you, but I am not a shill for either the left or the right and will continue to call it like I see it.
@robfritz841
@robfritz841 4 дня назад
🇺🇸 needs a NEW PARTY! I think the name should be FEDERALIST? Or Christian Democratik Party? Or Whig?!
@johncampbell1243
@johncampbell1243 3 дня назад
These are tough points to hear, much as I agree with you. Jake Sullivan has created a lot of harm for Ukraine. Regretably, he is the lesser of two great evils.
@barryhunks873
@barryhunks873 4 дня назад
Your talk about the squad is grossly misinformed
@NoDelusionZone
@NoDelusionZone 4 дня назад
Really? I could be I suppose. Some specifics please.
@heretodaygonetomaui3567
@heretodaygonetomaui3567 2 дня назад
Why aren't you over there fighting for Ukraine deBatteo ?
@NoDelusionZone
@NoDelusionZone День назад
To all of Jonathan's MAGA/Kremlin supporters/bots/GRU/FSB/trolls, try to at least do some basic research before you attack me or Jonathan on what was said during this podcast. Your parroted MAGA/Kremlin talking points are easily rebuked (easily proven false as lies). They are also very boring, because both of us have heard them all many, many times before. Same ol' script. At least try and come up with some NEW parroted MAGA/Kremlin talking points so we have something interesting to dispute!
@4MyThoughts
@4MyThoughts 2 дня назад
Why criticize Trump. I saw him in an interview saying he'd tell Putin, either get out of Ukraine or I'll give them whatever they need to kick you out. Do you check his opinion?
@NoDelusionZone
@NoDelusionZone 2 дня назад
🤣
@lionelheredia1249
@lionelheredia1249 4 дня назад
So Taylor Swift's endorsement is not farsical. It's real and has real power! All people need to do is vote BLUE all the way. Then, fight over issues after Nov 5th! 🗽💪🇺🇸
@iancormie9916
@iancormie9916 4 дня назад
Trump still has a passport? How is he going to leave the country without documents (perhaps a silly question) and where do we think he will go.
@LiberalinOregon
@LiberalinOregon 4 дня назад
He has a private plane. I think it would be easy for him to flee.
@jimboAndersenReviews
@jimboAndersenReviews 3 дня назад
I believe, that the next few months will be extremely important; has the CCP, Soviet & russian schemes to topple democracy succeeded, or not?
@tomwende5529
@tomwende5529 3 дня назад
"The traditional media ... seeks out those things that divide people." This is called 'outrage porn,' and it it is very much an issue in US media. It shows a small segment, often utterly lacking in context, that will incense its viewers. It then shows those viewers being incensed and completes the cycle by showing reactions to those incensed viewers, which inflates a sort of 'outrage bubble' for the length of a news cycle. This is done for ratings. Naturally, the same phenomenon proliferates even faster in social media, for clicks (and profit). Absent any media savvy among viewers (consumers), this is a huge problem to get one's arms around, but it began with news for profit (cable news channels). Hint: it hasn't gotten any better in three decades. Rather than engage in an effortful way with what we see from the standpoints of credibility, plausibility, bias, and intent, we tune into a bubble that most resembles what we already believe.
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