David Grann, author of Killers of the Flower Moon, spoke in front of a live audience inside of Gallagher-Iba Arena. (Originally broadcasted on: 04.12.18).
Margie looks almost exactly like her grandmother Mollie it's truly fascinating to see the grandchildren of victims from 100 years ago. I'm so grateful to have had the opportunity to read Killers of the flower moon.
My word. This book was respectful, moving and so well done. Greed fosters evil, but dark doesn’t win over light. I hope that the descendants of the victims find a measure of peace and strength in the memory of their ancestors.
My respect for David Grann has grown exponentially for his humility, and his honesty. I am moved to see Molly's descendants, Chief Standing Bear, and my Osage cousins. I love you all. ~An Old Apache Woman
Saw the M Scorsese 3.5hr movie 🇲🇽 in Mexico, sunday Oct/22/2023 based on David Grann book -- Searched the origins of how this was discovered, and now know thanks to this video. Before the movie, I had never heard of the Osage Nation, it's horrific the things man can do to others because of greed.
@@Janz32There are more crime. Today the Americans with the CIA fight wars WORLDWIDE. Always the same. Weapon Industry earns a lot for killing humans. It's a big shame
Jennifer, I just watched the film and I’m quite disappointed. I thought the book did a better job of depicting the deception and the injustice perpetrated against the Osage people from the local to the Federal level. I also was remiss that there wasn’t more about the comeuppance and plight of this wealth in the Osage nation. My only wish was that this was story told by the Osage people and not a white man. I know Osage people contributed, but I just didn’t want to see so many whites on fillm. I wanted to see more about your people and what your people came into, what they lost and how the osage nation moved on.
@@xochitllee24 Thanks for this review. My congratulations for managing to sit thru 3 1/2 hours-I couldn’t do it. I had a feeling the film would be a letdown from the book.
I am so sorry for the families and members of the Osage, as important as it is I am sure it is utterly heartbreaking to watch it all come to life on a big screen...thank you for sharing with the world, who needs to know this.....
@@butterfliii73 Reading Grann’s book is unmatched for pathos and sorrow as far as this mournful episode in US history is concerned. Scorsese or any director for that matter couldn’t begin to capture the monumental misdeed and inequities leveled at the Osage in the same manner as the passages composed by Grann.
Thank you so much for this. First time learning about this horrendous chapter in US history and I am so grateful for your attention and outstanding reporting on it.
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@@LeonardoDiCaprioofficls is this part of your family history to, I do think the American native osage Indian is part of my family history my second grendmother is Osage Indian lm 61yearold , this year my aunt died year and my cousin told me our great grandmother her name was Betty was Osage Indian . really need to know more?
I'm saddened to think of all the wealth lost by the Osage Nation due to these massacres. Wealth that could have benefited their community for generations.
Such a fantastic book about a tragic history that I knew nothing about at all - i am so excited to see the new Scorsese film - it looks like they’ve done a fantastic job with the film (the lead actress looks so incredibly like Molly - it’s so uncanny). “Can you see the wolves in this picture” has been haunting me for days.
I agree with everything you said except the part where you say the lead actress looks so much like Mollie. I don’t think she does. I’m glad that they had a Native American actress play the role though.
I think that the movie is unfocused, slow and plodding despite the compelling story. An hour could have been removed and the story would have kept our attention. Maybe it will look better after a few weeks but having read the book and knowing the director and stars more was expected.
Worthy of a “Rest of the story” piece to highlight how chronologically close these events were as well as how geographically close they were, just a few miles apart. I wonder if Osage money helped residents of Black Wall Street get started. What was the relationship between the Osage people and African American people during that timeframe…and since? I’m guessing Bill Hale and his lawless cronies must have known the owner and or the pilot of the airplane that bombed Black Wall Street. I think David Grann knows there is another book here just waiting to be written. Will he write it?
Hahaha...I thought the same thing but that just shows how kind & understanding the Osage ppl are. Obviously the show wasn't equipped for that many guests - just mics.
You're reading too much into that. They only had two armchairs backstage so they used them for the honoree - the author - and the host. But it WAS insensitive. If they only had two armchairs they could have more graciously given them to the two women or else used all informal chairs for everyone.
definitely an interesting topic. I never knew of this until I saw the preview for the movie and that it states it was based on true events. the treatment of native people in the U.S. is truly sad.
@@uptownsamcv David Grann’s book was published in 2017. Quite the riveting read about the Osage Indian murders and the newly developed FBI headed up by J. Edgar Hoover.
I’m from Oklahoma and not until 2018 did I learn about the Osage murders and the Tulsa race riots (massacre) Unbelievable! My Daughter knows because of me.
I'm not from USA, I didn't know about the reign of terror in the Osage county until Martin Scorcese's film. I do know in general about the racist and genocide intentions in US towards Indigenous people and BlackAmericans up till now. In my teenage years, I read in our nationa newspapers in the 1970s wrote about contemporary, forced sterilization of native women in US. It was a means of genocide. I know about the Tulsa massacre, it is a well known story among people of the Black diaspora in and outside U.S. It is not that these stories are not told among Indians and Blacks. Apparently all this is not taught in your history classes, not published in your newspapers, and not to be seen among your national television programs. However, all of these hidden stories can be found on YT, and often in music too.
An important book, about ONE of all the crimes that native americans have experienced, due to greed, through out history, since colonization. It's really time to put the full picture in history books. I'm really looking forward to the Scorsese movie, based on the book, so even more people will know about this. With Scorsese as director, de Niro, di Caprio and a lot of native american actors, as Tantanka Means (AIM activist Russel Means son, in it, I guess it will be a masterpiece. Hopefully Robert Robertson will write some of the movie music and arrange the rest of the music in it.
Why haven’t they been able to recover what was stolen from them? I hope this movie brings this injustice to light and that they might be able to recover some of what was stolen. Unfortunately lifes cannot be recovered.
Under the negotiated agreement, executed on Oct. 14, 2011, litigation will end regarding the Department of the Interior’s accounting and management of the tribe’s trust accounts, trust lands and other natural resources, including the tribe’s mineral estate. The United States will pay the tribe $380 million to compensate the tribe for its claims of historical losses to its trust funds and interest income as a result of the government’s management of trust assets. The parties also will implement measures that will lead to strengthened management of the tribe’s trust assets and improved communications between the Department of the Interior and the tribe, including procedures for delivery of periodic statements of account, annual audit information, and information relating to the management of the mineral estate to the tribe. Importantly, the agreement also provides dispute resolution provisions to reduce the likelihood of future litigation.
Fabulous learning experience ! I hope it is the beginning of many more truths about the injustices done to the Native American population! If anyone deserves reparations it certainly must be them! I am Caucasian, but justice has no color! I’ve admired and studied Native American history all my life ( I’m now 80) Many of our Greatest Statesmen have dishonored that race of people beyond all others. ( even the Great Abraham Lincoln)
oklahoma has a sad history they need to also write about the 1921 tulsa oklahoma bombing of a black business district first american city to be bombed from the sky
Yes the black Wall Street. There could easily be a movie made about it as well. I grew up in Osage County as a black male. I know about the story of the Osage Murders. As well as the burning and murders of black Wall Street which didn't happen very far away from Osage Murders.
There is a current political movement to make sure that kids are not taught about this. I find this incredible given how so many people from Oklahoma say they were unaware of these episodes.
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Fascinating. Dear Osage, we see what kind of trail you've had to walk. They tried to stamp out what happened, but some small form of justice is being served in a book and now a movie. Just goes to show history never dies, but the men and women behind the criminal enterprises do. Okla became a dumping ground , the final solution (if-you-will) to the problem called the American Indian. Even today, Okĺa is still involved in sticking it to the American Indian of Okla. A question that needs to be asked: Why is Gov Stitt(or those advising him) taking the McGirt case(under Bosse) back to the US Supreme Court? "The love of money is the root of all evil." The Osage have lived this..they have suffered at the hands of those in this state who love money. Here's what I see--- I see a Great People's Rising amongst the ashes, and no one will be able to stop them. Go on and dance into the horizon, the Great Spirit will continue to carry you on HIS WIND & WINGS. His Story(history) can NEVER be stamped out. #Osage #McGirtcase #justice #guardians #oklahoma #killesoftheflowermoon #NativeAmerLivesMatter #davidgann #mollyburkhart
Agreed and I never heard this story prior to the book or movie- 1. question what percentage of the book and movie profits go to help the Osage Nation. Feels like they should get something financially from this, given the circumstances of white men making money off their story. Important to share and make the world aware, also important to pay the Osage nation reparations for their traumatic suffering❤️
Start a letter campaign directed at Hollywood demanding that a significant portion of DiCaprio’s and DeNiro’s salaries be donated to an Osage charity. Wonder if you’d get the courtesy of a reply (?)
I took Oklahoma history in 1969. None of this or the black massacre in Tulsa Oklahoma was included! Oklahoma history books for schools need to be rewritten!
At times, Native Americans fought with tenacity and exacted revenge, as in the Battle of Little Bighorn and George Armstrong Custer’s battalion annihilation. But the Battle of Wounded Knee? King Phillip’s War and other conflicts in the face of superior forces and armament? Sometimes limitations present themselves in a huge way…
I wondered that same thing. All the while taking about racism, inequality and the atrocities committed by the white devils. It’s like an unconscious ignorance that is deep into the DNA, and they don’t even know it. Unsettling.
I just came to know about this event, but I live on the other side of the world. I am shocked to see the the most views about this particular even only had 10000 to 13000 views yet 1000000 view of a cat or a dog doing silly things? And ones again a white ( well intentioned) person benefits!
Saw The movie but don't recall it noting at begining...."BASED IN A TRUE STORY."....If thats the case its a 10 point takeaway because thats the point retelling the Native history.....maybe I missed it when getting ready in my chair...
I believe for Hale was more a question of racism and greed. No Indigenous person could have more money than a white person. I hope they prosper and buy all their land back, although it’s been stolen from them first.
The oil fields gave out, or don't produce as much as they did back then, or so it seems. However, surely the stealing guardians etc invested the stolen money in real estate, land, etc., and put these in their own name. Their offspring may still be rich, wealthy because of criminal deeds of their (great)grandfathers. There must be a way to give it back to the Osage, or contribute by way of mandatory charitable contributions. I realize, such a thing may be too complicated, since the offspring may be mixed Osage-White. However, the racist state Oklahoma or the general racist government of the USA facilitated crime e.g. robbery and murder. They created a racist system ('Indians are too stupid to manage their money'). I feel the USA government, or the specific State of Oklaoma, should compensate the Osage community as a whole. Wouldn't that be the right thing to do? Good that Osages are buying back the land.
No, they have control themselves! I grew up in a small town in Osage county. My grandparents property was right next to the “Indian village”. My best friend was Osage & so was my first “boyfriend”! When I was about 10 or so we kept a little Osage boy & he was just like a little brother. We kept him night & day except when his mother would come take him for a few days. He was so cute! Now he’s a BIG man! My mom & I went to see him at a pow wow when he was in his 20’s. He played football in college, probably high school. He was a big boy! He’s in his late 50’s now. I later found out that I was part Cherokee. The Osage also have casinos. They’re doing alright.
Descendents of the White people that married into the Osage at the time are still there and influential. I just saw an Osage woman say all this in a short documentary here on RU-vid.
No, the Osage Nation held those mineral rights when they bought that land. They and their attorneys were wise in claiming the rights of everything underground on their land.
Native Americans more or less refuse to get involved in this society. Case in point, they dont want to be bothered but they complain about not being represented. well guess what- you need to be involved
Let me asked you, do the Native Americans being offered the same equal opportunities to involve in the society in US? Read the history, Learn the reason why they are retreated and do not make a prejudice judgment without any grounds.
@creolelady182 it's more complicated than that for many first nations peoples. That's an ignorant statement to make unless you have firsthand spent time with the people on the reservations where the government placed them. It's a battle everyday for many different tribes to be heard and many do stand up and do get involved. "Case in Point" you should not speak about things you don't understand.
@@Truckenwhiteboy I know some of the comments were. It's still a very relevant topic--can't wait for the movie in a few more months. Been happily following the progress and catching up on some I'd missed.
Idiots commenting on the seats need to grow up. It is common practice for seating arrangments like this. It is nothing to do with race. Its to contrast the guests being interviewed, who are sitting to one side, and the host and auther of the book, which is on the other side.
