@@Jimboken1 Funny how you don't think an invisible man in the sky who has human representatives on earth who keep demanding your money is a fraud but selling a bridge (which actually does exist and realistically could be put up for sale) IS a fraud. Irony is completely lost on the religious.
@@wednesdayschild3627when I hear an accusation without evidence, it means nothing in the age of the internet which supports any view you may have. Soviet propaganda 😂 sure thing bud
Papacy vs Jews. Jews in history, though not always oppressed by the Muslims, were given special branding by a Muslim (and given yellow stars by the Nazis), subjected to being inferior as dhimmis and suffered various pogroms such as in Russia, Ukraine and Spain. They also suffered various massacres in Muslim lands "On July 14, 1555, Pope Paul IV created the Roman Jewish Ghetto with a papal bull entitled Cum Nimis Absurdum. Jewish Roman citizens were forced to wear yellow badges on their clothing. They were required to pay an annual fee to live in a walled off section of the city, the Ghetto. Perhaps most humiliatingly, the Jews of Rome were made to recite a yearly oath of submission to the city and to Christendom standing under the Arch of Titus!" April 26th 1932: Hitler meets with Catholic Bishop Wilhelm Berning of Osnabrück and Monsignor Steinmann, prelates representing the Roman Catholic Church in Germany. Hitler claims that he is only doing to the Jews what the Catholic Church has already done to them for 1600 years. He reminds the prelates that the Church has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos. Hitler suggests that his anti-Jewish actions are “doing Christianity a great service.” Bishop Berning and Monsignor Steinmann later describe the talks as “cordial and to the point. "Edith Stein was a German-Jewish philosopher, a saint of the Catholic Church, who was murdered at Auschwitz. In April 1933 she wrote a letter to Pope Pius XI, in which she denounced the Nazi regime and asked the Pope to openly denounce the regime "to put a stop to this abuse of Christ's name." As a child of the Jewish people who, by the grace of God, for the past eleven years has also been a child of the Catholic Church, I dare to speak to the Father of Christianity about that which oppresses millions of Germans. For weeks we have seen deeds perpetrated in Germany which mock any sense of justice and humanity, not to mention love of neighbor. For years the leaders of National Socialism have been preaching hatred of the Jews. But the responsibility must fall, after all, on those who brought them to this point and it also falls on those who keep silent in the face of such happenings. Everything that happened and continues to happen on a daily basis originates with a government that calls itself "Christian." For weeks not only Jews but also thousands of faithful Catholics in Germany, and, I believe, all over the world, have been waiting and hoping for the Church of Christ to raise its voice to put a stop to this abuse of Christ’s name." - Edith Stein, Letter to Pope Pius XI. Stein's letter received no answer, and it is not known for sure whether Pius XI even read it. This until her letter to Pope Pius XI and related correspondence were finally released from Vatican archives. William Doino explains that there was an answer to Stein by Cardinal Pacelli but the letter was sent to Stein’s abbot, Raphael Walzer, because it was he who had mailed Stein's letter to the Vatican (following protocol the letter was not sent to Pius XI directly, but first given to Archabbot Raphael Walzer with a request that he forward it to the Vatican). Cardinal Pacelli sent then what Doino call a "warm and supportive reply" but speculates that it may never have been received due to Nazi war time surveillance. Pacelli's reply states: "I leave it to you to inform the sender [Edith Stein] in an opportune way that her letter has been dutifully presented to His Holiness [Pope Pius XI] In September 1942, a U.S. diplomat gave the Vatican a secret report on the massacre of 100,000 Warsaw Ghetto Jews plus 50,000 murdered in German-occupied Lviv, Ukraine. The intel came from the Jewish Agency for Palestine’s Geneva office. The U.S. government requested from the Vatican, which received information from Catholics around the world, could confirm this from its sources, if they could confirm this report. The Vatican has claimed that it had no information on the subject at the time. But the newly opened archive has a note confirming Pius read the American report. Two letters to the Vatican independently corroborated massacres in Warsaw and Lviv, Ukraine. A month before the American request, Lviv’s Ukrainian Greek Catholic archbishop Andrey Sheptytsky sent Pius a letter reporting 200,000 Ukrainian Jews massacred under “outright diabolical” Nazi occupation. Seven German researchers from the University of Munster announced that they had studied documents from the Vatican archives that were recently made available concerning the activities of Pope Pius XII’s during World War II. The research revealed that the pope knew from his own sources about the Nazi death camps and Hitler’s attempts to exterminate the Jews but the pope chose not to reveal this to his contacts with the U.S. government. Pope Pius decided that the reports were inaccurate after an aid convinced him that the main sources, Jews and Ukrainian, could not be trusted because they lied and exaggerated. The pope knew about the Nazi extermination campaign as early as 1942 after he received a letter with a detailed account of atrocities in Nazi-occupied Poland on September 27, 1942, which had been routed from the Geneva office of the Jewish Agency for Palestine to its New York office. Roosevelt’s envoy to the pope, Myron Charles Taylor, then sent it to the Vatican." On May 4, 1943, Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Magaloni, informed the British government of the Vatican's opposition to a Jewish homeland in Palestine. One day later, the Vatican was informed that of the four million Jews residing in pre-war Poland, only about 100,000 were still alive. Six weeks later, on June 22, 1943, the Vatican's apostolic delegate, Archbishop Cicognani wrote to then U.S. Secretary of State, Cordell Hull, again detailing its opposition to a Jewish homeland in Palestine and warning him that Catholics the world over would be aroused and saying, in part: "It is true that at one time Palestine was inhabited by the Hebrew race, but there is no axiom in history to substantiate the necessity of a people returning to a country they left nineteen centuries before...If a Hebrew home is desired, it would not be too difficult to find a more fitting territory than Palestine." To imagine then that 62 years later a Polish Pope would have redefined Vatican thinking regarding the Jewish people is astounding"
ADOLPH HITLER SAID: Hitler was also ready to discuss with the Bishop (Wilhelm Berning) his views on the Jewish question: "As for the Jews, I am just carrying on with the same policy which the Catholic church has adopted for fifteen hundred years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos etc. "The Nazi Persecution of the Churches" by J.S. Conway, Pgs. 25, 26 & 162. Bernhard Stempfle: Was a Catholic priest and journalist. He helped Adolf Hitler in the writing of Mein Kampf. He was murdered in the Night of the Long Knives. Stempfle entered the priesthood in 1904. He joined the Hieronymite order (the Poor Hermits of Saint Jerome) in Italy. Hitler himself stated, "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits. Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party."“Hitler m’a dit”, (Ed. Co-operation, Paris 1939, pp.266, 267, 273 ss Walter Schellenberg, former chief of Nazi counter-espionage made this statement: "The S.S. organization had been constituted by Himmler according to the principles of the (Catholic) Jesuit Order. Their regulations and the Spiritual Exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the model Himmler tried to copy exactly. Himmler's title as supreme chief of the S.S. was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' 'General' and the whole structure was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's hierarchical order." Himmler used the Jesuits as the model for the SS, since he found they had the core elements of absolute obedience and the cult of the organisation. Höhne, Heinz (2001). The Order of the Death's Head (p135: The Story of Hitler's SS. Penguin Books. Also, Lapomarda, Vincent (1989). The Jesuits and the Third Reich, pgs 10-11. The "Reichsfuhrer SS"-Himmler's title as supreme chief of the SS-was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' "General" and the whole structure of the direction was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's hierarchical order. A mediaeval castle, near Paderborn in Westphalia, and called "Webelsbourg", was restored; it became what could be called a SS monastery".(109) Secret History Of The Jesuits ( 1983) Edmund Paris, ch 5, pg 164 Franz von Papen, another powerful Nazi, who was instrumental in setting up the concordat between Germany and the Vatican had this to say: "The Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges but also puts into practice the high principles of the papacy." If you are not aware of what a concordat is, a concordat is an agreement between the Vatican and a government. As far as the Vatican is concerned, that government that signed the concordat has now become a part of the government of God, and the Vatican fully intends to stabilize that government, give it divine protection, and give it international protection. "Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler and most members of the party's "old guard" were Catholics", wrote M. Frederic Hoffet. "It was not by accident that, because of its chiefs’ religion, the National-socialist government was the most Catholic Germany ever had... This kinship between National-socialism and Catholicism is most striking if we study closely the propaganda methods and the interior organisation of the party. On that subject, nothing is more instructive than Joseph Goebbel's works. He had been brought up in a Jesuit college and was a seminarist before devoting himself to literature and politics... Every page, every line of his writings recall the teaching of his masters; so he stresses obedience... the contempt for truth... "Some lies are as useful as bread!" he proclaimed by virtue of a moral relativism extracted from Ignatius of Loyola's writings..."(119), Secret History Of The Jesuits ( 1983) Edmund Paris, ch 5, pg 167 Hitler did not award the palm of Jesuitism to his chief of propaganda, though to the Gestapo's chief, as he told his favourites: "I can see Himmler as our Ignatius of Loyola"(120), Secret History Of The Jesuits ( 1983) Edmund Paris, ch 5, pg 167. During World War II, while the Holocaust was already raging and hundreds of thousands of Jews were being killed by the Nazis, anti-Zionist attitudes prevailed among Vatican diplomats. Msgr. Domenico Tardini wrote in March 1943 that the Holy See "has never approved the project of making Palestine a Jewish home." Cardinal Maglione, secretary of state, wrote in May 1943 to his apostolic delegate in the United States, Cicognani, that it would not be difficult "if one wants to establish a 'Jewish Home,' to find other territories [than Palestine] which could better fulfill this aim, while Palestine, under Jewish predominance, would bring new and grave international problems." On April 10, 1945, while the war was still going on in Europe, Moshe Shertok (later *Sharett) of the Jewish Agency was received by Pope *Pius XII. He hoped for the "moral support" of the Catholic Church for "our renewed existence in Palestine." But he did not receive any support; on the contrary the Holy See started a campaign for the internationalization of Jerusalem, supported by France. The Vatican considered Zionism to be an enemy, only suitable as a springboard for a new alliance between Christians and Moslems in Palestine. In the Papal States in France, the yellow hat was abolished in 1791 after the French Revolution reached the area, although some persons retained it until forbidden to do so by official proclamation. In the Papal States in Italy, on the other hand, the obligation was reimposed as late as 1793. When in 1796-97 the armies of the French Revolution entered Italy and the ghettos were abolished, the obligation to wear the Jewish badge disappeared. Its reimposition was threatened but not carried out during the reactionary period after the fall of Napoleon, and it then seemed that the Badge of Shame was only an evil memory of the past. As James Carroll wrote in “Constantine’s Sword,” his 2001 study of the Church’s relationship with the Jews, “The Reichskonkordat effectively removed the German Catholic Church from any continued role of opposition to Hitler. More than that, as Hitler told his cabinet on July 14, it established a context that would be ‘especially significant in the urgent struggle against international Jewry.’” There has been a controversy surrounding Pius XII. He has been faulted for his failure to speak out publicly in opposition to the Holocaust, which he surely knew was in process. Roman Catholic apologists have attempted to explain this away and pointed to his help in hiding many Jews in Italy from the Nazis. It has also been argued that had he spoken out publicly it would only have inflamed Hitler and made matters worse, in spite of the fact that it couldn’t have been worse than it was. (We dealt in depth with this subject in July 1993, July 1994, and September 1998.) It was actually Sister Pascalina (the nun who was his housekeeper and close associate and confidante for many years) who introduced the Pope to the idea of saving Jews and who conceived and carried out the clever and secretive way in which this was accomplished. Her biographer reports that she “risked everything for the Jews...and issued hundreds of papal identity cards...so [that Jews] could pass as Christians through Nazi lines for safety in the Vatican.” This fact, however, is never mentioned by those praising the Pope for saving Jews. This June 22, 1943 letter is devastating for those who have defended the Pope. In part this is what it said: “It is true that at one time Palestine was inhabited by the Hebrew Race, but there is no axiom in history [what about God’s Word!] to substantiate the necessity of a people returning to a country they left nineteen centuries before. If a ‘Hebrew Home’ is desired, it would not be too difficult to find a more fitting territory than Palestine. With an increase in the Jewish population there, grave, new international problems would arise.” His language and intent is clear. Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, calls the letter “an indictment of Pius XII, because it basically says that when the Pope wanted a point of view expressed about how he clearly felt, he said it clearly. Where is a similar letter to Adolf Hitler, telling Hitler that the Vatican finds his policies against the Jews repugnant? But at the height of the Holocaust, the Vatican knew how to oppose the State of Israel.” Furthermore, we have a copy of Pius XII’s first letter to Hitler upon becoming pope. In part it said, “To the Illustrious Herr Adolf Hitler, Führer and Chancellor of the German Reich! We recall with great pleasure the many years we spent in Germany as Apostolic Nuncio, when we did all in our power to establish harmonious relations between Church and State. Now...how much more ardently do we pray to reach that goal....” Remember, this was 1939 and Hitler’s evil had been exposed to the world.
Too bad there isn't a Holy Father which God is at work, and the tyrants who for whatever reason act the way they do, are rather put in their place. That if such a Holy Father not by the eyes and desire of man, but of God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Soirit would remind these tyrants what comes after death: the fires of Hell. A stalwart strong Holy Father that does not fall into the gambit of self attachment and selfishness of tyrants. Who by God's grace, in any diplomatic entity, put these men (or could be women too) in their place. For women, by word. For men, by act of bravery, courage, temperance, fortitude, patience, and perseverance. If Pope Pius met Hitler, and showed what the Church is like to tyrants, and turned the whole Nazi party over on its' face in as much as Saint Louis De Montfort had to no problem taking men out of a bar and to Mass. That's the spirit we need just as then, today! Didn't Our Lady say in the end Her Immaculate Heart would triumph? I think there is something to this.
The blasphemous titles of holy Father and pontifex maximus are repugnant to any born again jew or gentile. Jesus spoke plainly " call no man on earth Father or rabbi , only one your Father who is in heaven. Your illegitimate abuse of power by the biggest forgery in Christendom,the donation of Constantine is the wickedness ploy of the devil. And catholics denounce protestants and others.
Catholism was founded on compromising the scriptures to gain acceptance with government and nothing has changed since. The holocaust is the proof. Self preservation and no sacrifice. Seems an anti-Christ movement
Fist of all..who is this lady exalted above Christ the Lord you speak of? Mary was like many normal earthly mother..she has not grown angel wjngs when she died..no one does.She was the earthly woman chosen to bring forth the Son of God..overpowered by the Holy Spirit..impregnated with the very Word of God..that incorruptible seed! 1 Peter 1:23. You know when she stood with John at the foot of her Sons cross Jesus said to Mary: 'woman behold your son' & to His disciple: 'behold your mother'. The family if God..the Church..the Body of Christ on earth was born at the foot of the Cross. Mary or any other woman is not above Christ who is God..'In the beginning was the Word and the word was with God and the Word was God'. John 1:1 then read to vs 14..and Colossians 1:14-18.
Truly, Pius XII was a righteous gentile, which is why the Nazis were calling him a “Jew loving” cardinal before he became pope. At the end of the Second World War, Pope Pius XII was universally acclaimed for his courageous leadership. The Jewish historian Pinchas Lapide acknowledged that the Church saved the lives of 850,000 Jews in Slovakia, Croatia, Romania, and Hungary. Rome’s chief rabbi, Israel Zolli, converted to Catholicism. To thank and honor Pope Pius XII, he took the name Eugenio, after Eugenio Pacelli, the pope's birth name. When Pius XII died, Israel’s Foreign Minister Golda Meir wrote, “When fearful martyrdom came to our people in the decade of Nazi terror, the voice of the pope was raised for the victims.” Leonard Bernstein asked the audience at a performance of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra for a minute of silence “for the passing of a very great man, Pope Pius XII.” Within five years after the pope’s death, however, efforts began to calumniate Pius. Soviet disinformation sought to discredit him. But it was especially the 1963 play, The Deputy, by Rolf Hochhuth, an unknown clerk at a German publishing house and a radical leftist, that painted Pius XII as a pro-Nazi anti-Semite who was silent while 6 million Jews were murdered. The actual record did not stop the slander. Robert Graham S.J., a scholar of the period, was asked to explain why. With all the gruesome information coming out about the Nazi death camps in the 1960s and 1970s, someone “needed to be blamed for the Holocaust.” And a pope fits the bill.
No one is blaming the Pope for the holocaust. It is an indisputable fact, however that the centuries' long campaign by the Catholic Church molded Nazi ideology to hold an unrestrained hatred of Jews, which, not surprisingly, would lead to mass killing. The indictment of Pope Pius XII is that he was a racist anti-Semite who did too little too late to help the Jews. So you're "blame the Holocaust on the Pope" argument is a straw man.
FYI, in Croatia the death camp of Jacenovac, where Serb Orthodox civilians were murdered together with Jews, was run by a catholic clergyman, nicknamed "Brother Satan" by the inmates. He was hanged after the war as a war criminal. The Nazi puppet state of Slovakia was run by the catholic priest Father Tiso, also hanged after the war, as were several Hungarian clregymen. So much for the official wartime Catholic Church saving Jewish lives in Croatia, Slovakia and Hungary! What they did save were Nazi war criminals, who used Church channels to escape to Latin America after the war. Yes, there were brave individual Catholic clergymen and nuns who sheltered fugitive Jews, in France, in Greece, even in Germany, and some of them were even found out and lost their lives. Let's remember and honot them, not Pius the XII!
@@stylianosperrakis1666 Your post is charged with an anti-Catholic attitude, so I wouldn't trust the details of your story. The topic I posted was that Pope Pius XII and the Catholic Church as a group made the greatest contribution to saving the Jews and the Jews recognise this.
DD - excellent, truthful summary of what actually happened. Thank you! As you can see, there will always be some who refuse to acknowledge the tremendous good accomplished by Pope Pius XII. Some are comfortable with their anti-Catholic prejudice; others may even be disillusioned Catholics who work out their frustrations by venting against Pius or the sexual scandals. But intelligent people like us must continue speaking out.
@@stylianosperrakis1666 Whatever crimes were committed by Catholic clergy, that doesn’t negate the fact that Pius XII saved 860,000 lives - more than any other individual or organization. Should Pius be held responsible for every rogue priest? Is he to blame for whatever pockets of anti-Semitism existed in the Church before his time? May I suggest you broaden your horizons, instead of trying to play “Gotcha!”
In my view, cults are closed groups of people how do obscure things, but you can Walk in in any Parish or Chapel, and no one will stop nor kickout you without any good for doing it, you can see live Masses online and nothing is being kept in secrecy, hence, the Catholic Faith is one of the most Free and Open Religions, free and open not in a worldlly sense, but in the sense that everything is done by heart and without secondry egoistic motives.
Truly, Pius XII was a righteous gentile, which is why the Nazis were calling him a “Jew loving” cardinal before he became pope. At the end of the Second World War, Pope Pius XII was universally acclaimed for his courageous leadership. The Jewish historian Pinchas Lapide acknowledged that the Church saved the lives of 850,000 Jews in Slovakia, Croatia, Romania, and Hungary. Rome’s chief rabbi, Israel Zolli, converted to Catholicism. To thank and honor Pope Pius XII, he took the name Eugenio, after Eugenio Pacelli, the pope's birth name. When Pius XII died, Israel’s Foreign Minister Golda Meir wrote, “When fearful martyrdom came to our people in the decade of Nazi terror, the voice of the pope was raised for the victims.” Leonard Bernstein asked the audience at a performance of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra for a minute of silence “for the passing of a very great man, Pope Pius XII.” Within five years after the pope’s death, however, efforts began to calumniate Pius. Soviet disinformation sought to discredit him. But it was especially the 1963 play, The Deputy, by Rolf Hochhuth, an unknown clerk at a German publishing house and a radical leftist, that painted Pius XII as a pro-Nazi anti-Semite who was silent while 6 million Jews were murdered. The actual record did not stop the slander. Robert Graham S.J., a scholar of the period, was asked to explain why. With all the gruesome information coming out about the Nazi death camps in the 1960s and 1970s, someone “needed to be blamed for the Holocaust.” And a pope fits the bill.
@@vitorfaster3577 And the fact that the Vatican has secret archives open to no one from the outside doesn't put it into the "cult" category? How about the numerous dogmas of the church that MUST be believed and are not open to debate? How about the threat of excommunication and damnation for those who don't hold as absolutely true, every dot and tittle of their doctrine? And was the hiding/protection of rapist priests while paying off, hushing up, and threatening victims a work "done by heart and without secondry egoistic motives?"
ADOLPH HITLER SAID: Hitler was also ready to discuss with the Bishop (Wilhelm Berning) his views on the Jewish question: "As for the Jews, I am just carrying on with the same policy which the Catholic church has adopted for fifteen hundred years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos etc. "The Nazi Persecution of the Churches" by J.S. Conway, Pgs. 25, 26 & 162. Bernhard Stempfle: Was a Catholic priest and journalist. He helped Adolf Hitler in the writing of Mein Kampf. He was murdered in the Night of the Long Knives. Stempfle entered the priesthood in 1904. He joined the Hieronymite order (the Poor Hermits of Saint Jerome) in Italy. Hitler himself stated, "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits. Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party."“Hitler m’a dit”, (Ed. Co-operation, Paris 1939, pp.266, 267, 273 ss Walter Schellenberg, former chief of Nazi counter-espionage made this statement: "The S.S. organization had been constituted by Himmler according to the principles of the (Catholic) Jesuit Order. Their regulations and the Spiritual Exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the model Himmler tried to copy exactly. Himmler's title as supreme chief of the S.S. was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' 'General' and the whole structure was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's hierarchical order." Himmler used the Jesuits as the model for the SS, since he found they had the core elements of absolute obedience and the cult of the organisation. Höhne, Heinz (2001). The Order of the Death's Head (p135: The Story of Hitler's SS. Penguin Books. Also, Lapomarda, Vincent (1989). The Jesuits and the Third Reich, pgs 10-11. The "Reichsfuhrer SS"-Himmler's title as supreme chief of the SS-was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' "General" and the whole structure of the direction was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's hierarchical order. A mediaeval castle, near Paderborn in Westphalia, and called "Webelsbourg", was restored; it became what could be called a SS monastery".(109) Secret History Of The Jesuits ( 1983) Edmund Paris, ch 5, pg 164 Franz von Papen, another powerful Nazi, who was instrumental in setting up the concordat between Germany and the Vatican had this to say: "The Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges but also puts into practice the high principles of the papacy." If you are not aware of what a concordat is, a concordat is an agreement between the Vatican and a government. As far as the Vatican is concerned, that government that signed the concordat has now become a part of the government of God, and the Vatican fully intends to stabilize that government, give it divine protection, and give it international protection. "Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler and most members of the party's "old guard" were Catholics", wrote M. Frederic Hoffet. "It was not by accident that, because of its chiefs’ religion, the National-socialist government was the most Catholic Germany ever had... This kinship between National-socialism and Catholicism is most striking if we study closely the propaganda methods and the interior organisation of the party. On that subject, nothing is more instructive than Joseph Goebbel's works. He had been brought up in a Jesuit college and was a seminarist before devoting himself to literature and politics... Every page, every line of his writings recall the teaching of his masters; so he stresses obedience... the contempt for truth... "Some lies are as useful as bread!" he proclaimed by virtue of a moral relativism extracted from Ignatius of Loyola's writings..."(119), Secret History Of The Jesuits ( 1983) Edmund Paris, ch 5, pg 167 Hitler did not award the palm of Jesuitism to his chief of propaganda, though to the Gestapo's chief, as he told his favourites: "I can see Himmler as our Ignatius of Loyola"(120), Secret History Of The Jesuits ( 1983) Edmund Paris, ch 5, pg 167. During World War II, while the Holocaust was already raging and hundreds of thousands of Jews were being killed by the Nazis, anti-Zionist attitudes prevailed among Vatican diplomats. Msgr. Domenico Tardini wrote in March 1943 that the Holy See "has never approved the project of making Palestine a Jewish home." Cardinal Maglione, secretary of state, wrote in May 1943 to his apostolic delegate in the United States, Cicognani, that it would not be difficult "if one wants to establish a 'Jewish Home,' to find other territories [than Palestine] which could better fulfill this aim, while Palestine, under Jewish predominance, would bring new and grave international problems." On April 10, 1945, while the war was still going on in Europe, Moshe Shertok (later *Sharett) of the Jewish Agency was received by Pope *Pius XII. He hoped for the "moral support" of the Catholic Church for "our renewed existence in Palestine." But he did not receive any support; on the contrary the Holy See started a campaign for the internationalization of Jerusalem, supported by France. The Vatican considered Zionism to be an enemy, only suitable as a springboard for a new alliance between Christians and Moslems in Palestine. In the Papal States in France, the yellow hat was abolished in 1791 after the French Revolution reached the area, although some persons retained it until forbidden to do so by official proclamation. In the Papal States in Italy, on the other hand, the obligation was reimposed as late as 1793. When in 1796-97 the armies of the French Revolution entered Italy and the ghettos were abolished, the obligation to wear the Jewish badge disappeared. Its reimposition was threatened but not carried out during the reactionary period after the fall of Napoleon, and it then seemed that the Badge of Shame was only an evil memory of the past. As James Carroll wrote in “Constantine’s Sword,” his 2001 study of the Church’s relationship with the Jews, “The Reichskonkordat effectively removed the German Catholic Church from any continued role of opposition to Hitler. More than that, as Hitler told his cabinet on July 14, it established a context that would be ‘especially significant in the urgent struggle against international Jewry.’” There has been a controversy surrounding Pius XII. He has been faulted for his failure to speak out publicly in opposition to the Holocaust, which he surely knew was in process. Roman Catholic apologists have attempted to explain this away and pointed to his help in hiding many Jews in Italy from the Nazis. It has also been argued that had he spoken out publicly it would only have inflamed Hitler and made matters worse, in spite of the fact that it couldn’t have been worse than it was. (We dealt in depth with this subject in July 1993, July 1994, and September 1998.) It was actually Sister Pascalina (the nun who was his housekeeper and close associate and confidante for many years) who introduced the Pope to the idea of saving Jews and who conceived and carried out the clever and secretive way in which this was accomplished. Her biographer reports that she “risked everything for the Jews...and issued hundreds of papal identity cards...so [that Jews] could pass as Christians through Nazi lines for safety in the Vatican.” This fact, however, is never mentioned by those praising the Pope for saving Jews. This June 22, 1943 letter is devastating for those who have defended the Pope. In part this is what it said: “It is true that at one time Palestine was inhabited by the Hebrew Race, but there is no axiom in history [what about God’s Word!] to substantiate the necessity of a people returning to a country they left nineteen centuries before. If a ‘Hebrew Home’ is desired, it would not be too difficult to find a more fitting territory than Palestine. With an increase in the Jewish population there, grave, new international problems would arise.” His language and intent is clear. Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, calls the letter “an indictment of Pius XII, because it basically says that when the Pope wanted a point of view expressed about how he clearly felt, he said it clearly. Where is a similar letter to Adolf Hitler, telling Hitler that the Vatican finds his policies against the Jews repugnant? But at the height of the Holocaust, the Vatican knew how to oppose the State of Israel.” Furthermore, we have a copy of Pius XII’s first letter to Hitler upon becoming pope. In part it said, “To the Illustrious Herr Adolf Hitler, Führer and Chancellor of the German Reich! We recall with great pleasure the many years we spent in Germany as Apostolic Nuncio, when we did all in our power to establish harmonious relations between Church and State. Now...how much more ardently do we pray to reach that goal....” Remember, this was 1939 and Hitler’s evil had been exposed to the world.
Papacy vs Jews. Jews in history, though not always oppressed by the Muslims, were given special branding by a Muslim (and given yellow stars by the Nazis), subjected to being inferior as dhimmis and suffered various pogroms such as in Russia, Ukraine and Spain. They also suffered various massacres in Muslim lands "On July 14, 1555, Pope Paul IV created the Roman Jewish Ghetto with a papal bull entitled Cum Nimis Absurdum. Jewish Roman citizens were forced to wear yellow badges on their clothing. They were required to pay an annual fee to live in a walled off section of the city, the Ghetto. Perhaps most humiliatingly, the Jews of Rome were made to recite a yearly oath of submission to the city and to Christendom standing under the Arch of Titus!" April 26th 1932: Hitler meets with Catholic Bishop Wilhelm Berning of Osnabrück and Monsignor Steinmann, prelates representing the Roman Catholic Church in Germany. Hitler claims that he is only doing to the Jews what the Catholic Church has already done to them for 1600 years. He reminds the prelates that the Church has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos. Hitler suggests that his anti-Jewish actions are “doing Christianity a great service.” Bishop Berning and Monsignor Steinmann later describe the talks as “cordial and to the point. "Edith Stein was a German-Jewish philosopher, a saint of the Catholic Church, who was murdered at Auschwitz. In April 1933 she wrote a letter to Pope Pius XI, in which she denounced the Nazi regime and asked the Pope to openly denounce the regime "to put a stop to this abuse of Christ's name." As a child of the Jewish people who, by the grace of God, for the past eleven years has also been a child of the Catholic Church, I dare to speak to the Father of Christianity about that which oppresses millions of Germans. For weeks we have seen deeds perpetrated in Germany which mock any sense of justice and humanity, not to mention love of neighbor. For years the leaders of National Socialism have been preaching hatred of the Jews. But the responsibility must fall, after all, on those who brought them to this point and it also falls on those who keep silent in the face of such happenings. Everything that happened and continues to happen on a daily basis originates with a government that calls itself "Christian." For weeks not only Jews but also thousands of faithful Catholics in Germany, and, I believe, all over the world, have been waiting and hoping for the Church of Christ to raise its voice to put a stop to this abuse of Christ’s name." - Edith Stein, Letter to Pope Pius XI. Stein's letter received no answer, and it is not known for sure whether Pius XI even read it. This until her letter to Pope Pius XI and related correspondence were finally released from Vatican archives. William Doino explains that there was an answer to Stein by Cardinal Pacelli but the letter was sent to Stein’s abbot, Raphael Walzer, because it was he who had mailed Stein's letter to the Vatican (following protocol the letter was not sent to Pius XI directly, but first given to Archabbot Raphael Walzer with a request that he forward it to the Vatican). Cardinal Pacelli sent then what Doino call a "warm and supportive reply" but speculates that it may never have been received due to Nazi war time surveillance. Pacelli's reply states: "I leave it to you to inform the sender [Edith Stein] in an opportune way that her letter has been dutifully presented to His Holiness [Pope Pius XI] In September 1942, a U.S. diplomat gave the Vatican a secret report on the massacre of 100,000 Warsaw Ghetto Jews plus 50,000 murdered in German-occupied Lviv, Ukraine. The intel came from the Jewish Agency for Palestine’s Geneva office. The U.S. government requested from the Vatican, which received information from Catholics around the world, could confirm this from its sources, if they could confirm this report. The Vatican has claimed that it had no information on the subject at the time. But the newly opened archive has a note confirming Pius read the American report. Two letters to the Vatican independently corroborated massacres in Warsaw and Lviv, Ukraine. A month before the American request, Lviv’s Ukrainian Greek Catholic archbishop Andrey Sheptytsky sent Pius a letter reporting 200,000 Ukrainian Jews massacred under “outright diabolical” Nazi occupation. Seven German researchers from the University of Munster announced that they had studied documents from the Vatican archives that were recently made available concerning the activities of Pope Pius XII’s during World War II. The research revealed that the pope knew from his own sources about the Nazi death camps and Hitler’s attempts to exterminate the Jews but the pope chose not to reveal this to his contacts with the U.S. government. Pope Pius decided that the reports were inaccurate after an aid convinced him that the main sources, Jews and Ukrainian, could not be trusted because they lied and exaggerated. The pope knew about the Nazi extermination campaign as early as 1942 after he received a letter with a detailed account of atrocities in Nazi-occupied Poland on September 27, 1942, which had been routed from the Geneva office of the Jewish Agency for Palestine to its New York office. Roosevelt’s envoy to the pope, Myron Charles Taylor, then sent it to the Vatican." On May 4, 1943, Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Magaloni, informed the British government of the Vatican's opposition to a Jewish homeland in Palestine. One day later, the Vatican was informed that of the four million Jews residing in pre-war Poland, only about 100,000 were still alive. Six weeks later, on June 22, 1943, the Vatican's apostolic delegate, Archbishop Cicognani wrote to then U.S. Secretary of State, Cordell Hull, again detailing its opposition to a Jewish homeland in Palestine and warning him that Catholics the world over would be aroused and saying, in part: "It is true that at one time Palestine was inhabited by the Hebrew race, but there is no axiom in history to substantiate the necessity of a people returning to a country they left nineteen centuries before...If a Hebrew home is desired, it would not be too difficult to find a more fitting territory than Palestine." To imagine then that 62 years later a Polish Pope would have redefined Vatican thinking regarding the Jewish people is astounding
Like pealing back the layers of fruit or vegetables this fascinating account is clearly facilitated by Frances and the curiate who want the information to be brought out and facilitate the process wherever possible. But the terrific constraints of the time certainly must not be too easily dismissed. Even in this day with Ukraine constraints are ever present. But the American out right turning of a blind eye clearly has played a role as well and may even be present today with the Bishops Conference implacable resistance. And it continues in far too many countries.
@@frederickanderson1860 That’s a platitude, not evidence. This historian makes claims about the church with no evidence behind it. Just inference bias.
This guy is a Catholic apologist. The fact that the Catholic church helped Nazis escape is public knowledge. The church is so complicit with the Holocaust there is no way of massaging the fact
@@daniellimo4087 He is absolutely not a Catholic apologist. You are a liar! The fact that the Catholic Church helped Jews escape is public knowledge. The Catholic Church was in no way complicit with the Holocaust. Popes Pius XI and Pius XII preached against racism in encyclicals such as Mit brennender Sorge (1937) - written in german and directed against the German state and Summi Pontificatus (1939).
