Great job Scott, too many instructors I know would have launched into a tirade and obliterated Davids self-confidence forever. A very professional example that others might like to follow.
I agree, that was a very professional way to handle the student. As an airplane instructor for many years, I learned the hard way. I still feel bad when I think back to the late 70s I was giving recurrent training to an already licensed pilot who needed some extra practice landing Cessnas. He made such a bad landing I had to take control of the plane, but I let him go as far as I could before I took over. The only thing I regret, and I learned my lesson from it, was that I was a little too tough on the guy and criticized him in a bad way. I'm admitting my sins for the benefit of any other instructors out there no matter what activity you teach. I hurt the guy's feelings pretty bad when I should have taken the opportunity, as Scott did here, to correct the student carefully and with professionalism. Ever since that day, I've never treated a student with unnecessary criticism again. I did eventually apologize to the pilot.
@@daffidavit good for you! I quit free fall sport jumping years ago when I tried to open the door for my instructor and pilot when neither could get it to open. I thought they gestured for me to try and when I did, the damn thing fell apart and the pilot screamed m-fer at me all the way until I went out the door on free fall jump number 9. Made one more for show after that and quit. Besides the pilot and sky gods there used to drink heavily on the DZ and some did pot. Didnt want to be around all that.
@@donmulder8061 I always wanted to skydive. I did a static jump once and hurt my knee after landing. I decided that motorcycles and airplanes were enough fun things in my life and I didn't need to add more risk. But it sure seems like fun.
Yeah like mine on my AFF level 7. Busted 2 A lines on opening, totally concussed, canopy was flyable, I landed it in 25+ winds got drug on my back for a second before collapsing the canopy, and all I heard was what a dumb fuck I was because the container was scratched. Spent 7 days in hospital and didn't go back to DZ for 2 more weeks despite my first ever rig, brand new even, was there waiting for me to start my skydiving life. That guy was a loser angry douche. The only one over all the decades I hope to never see again.
He was nice to me after this. I was aware of the altitude all the way (5000 feet on opening), but when i decided to cut away before dropping to 2500 feet i could´t do it. Cut away handle was stuck because of the spin i was in!! So i lost a lot of altitude before i finally did it (last check was 1900 feet).
@aAaa aAaa less about getting a hand on it, and more about getting it out the pocket/velcro. Happened to me on my *irst chop, had to go to the 2 handed technique (look right grab right, look left, peel punch right, grab left, peel punch left). Every chop after that has been "look, grab, look, grab, peel, punch, peel, punch" Think a bit of it is nerves too...
The student gets a "A" for this. BUT, so do his instructors.....The student did THE RIGHT THING WHEN HE NEEDED TO DO IT!...... This is not as easy as it sounds.....There is a panicky little thought in the background saying, "Hey, a fucked up chute is better than none at all. Don't cut it away!" Respect to the student for his self-mastery. This is not as easy as it sounds when it is time to trust your training. Anyone in a high risk activity knows this.....Anyone else can just guess......
I remember watching this before my first skydives and thought, "geez, what a noob... that would never happen to me". Welp... it did, in one of my early AFF jumps. Started spiraling like this and hesitating trying to figure out what the fuck to do. I cut away around 3K feet after spiraling atleast 15 seconds. This was 30 minutes after an instructor was telling me he had never cutaway in 4,000 skydives. So i was thinking back like.... "am i doing something wrong? Can I correct this??" They were tension knots.
@@somecharactersnotallowed1319 After 5 hours in Ground School before my first jump, I was almost disappointed when I didn't have to kick/rotate my way out of a collapsed end cell. I remember being so surprised when I looked up at that big beautiful 380 sq. ft. Goliath Sport Chute that I almost forgot to reach up and pull my risers loose..... The first jump....MAN, WHAT A RUSH!
I remember grabbing my toggles and terrified that if I let them go I wouldn’t be able to get them back, like they’d fly out and away. Scared the crap out of me.
@@somecharactersnotallowed1319 why were you spiraling? I've never jumped. Considering it though. I was thinking the same. What's the chance of this happening in a AFF course.. who packs the reserve? Are those packed from the factory? Or they could be packed by anyone I assume. Like if someone previously needed to use it. If the main fails I have a feeling I'd hesitate to cut away hoping for a hard landing I'll survive as opposed to cutting away and oopsie. The reserve fails too.
watched this nearly a year ago while considering getting my A license, not knowing where it was. Found it in my recommended feed today, decided to revisit the video and realize its at my home DZ now lol. blue skies, ZHills!
@ Scott....one of the best and most intense skydiving videos with a malfunction I have watched.... had to be a helpless feeling watching David spinning down, not cutting away and great job talking him in at the landing..........I jumped once many years ago, using a static line with a T10....
This student gained a lot of experience from this malfunction. A freind of mine who started jumping about the same time as I, 35 yrs ago still has not had a cut away.
It's called a 3rd riser. Was big awhile back. It takes the bend at the riser away and the steering lines go straight from the toggle to the canopy. You should be able to have your risers modified by a rigger....
Had my first, and only so far, cutaway on my 10th jump while still on student status. Was proud of my stand up landing as well lol. Good stuff and time for a beer!
That brings back memories...I had to use my reserve twice in the twelve jumps I did in Temora in NSW whilst attempting to get my A licence... I can understand why he delayed. Sometimes you wait for things to improve and the situation fix itself, way after the "check canopy " .. Glad to see it all worked out...👍
Watched a young woman under a streaming round main cut away so late,the reserve inflated and she landed. To be fair(a little bit) the cut away was with the dreaded Capewell system. She later died in a skydiving accident. Watche a static line student all but bounce, total on main(static line disconnected),wasted altitude "cutting away the main" which of course was still in the container. Static line student at our club bounced(another total,no reserve deployment) and walked away. The point is students sometimes have brain locks,but it emphasises the need to constantly review emergency procedures.
He cut way too late.. he could of been hundred of feet higher under that reserve. Guy got lucky. Hope he was later taught that he needs to be under a functioning chute before 2k feet, whether that's the main or reserve. If you can't sort it out before 2k feet, cut it
You're right, but in this case i was struggeling with cutting away. Lost almost 800feet after i decided to cut before i was able to do it. Next time i will use two hands to pull cut away handle, not only one ;)
That is funny, I love the instructor's voice getting more and more stressed. I bet he got a lecture on emergency procedures afterwards? :-D LOL! Did he get a beer fine for first chop?
I always think about learning to jump and then I see one of these and I put it off for another year or so. So far, It gives me a really good feeling about my safety. //ji
Is that bad ? When I did my static line in the training we were jumping at 3750 feet and were told if we need to do a reserve just do it before 1500 and we were told if we were thinking that we might need to at 2000 then do it
Psykopate exactly, cut away once you can fix the issue. Waiting to get to “decision” altitude is stupid. If you can’t fix it get the hell away from it.
Every time I think about starting my AFF I see something like this... is there nothing but problem jumps on youtube? or are these problems just that common?
Rookie here, only 13 jumps. Just wondering...What is the recommended amount of time (how many seconds) you would spend working a malfunction until you would cut away?? Obviously it varies based on opening altitude but lets just assume opening at 5000 ft.
Each malfunction involves different rates of descent. Maintain altitude awareness. Perform your stability and control checks. If it fails either check get rid of it ASAP. Make a decision and commit to it by 2000 feet.
Spoken as the guy hanging under the malfunctional parachute i would say as long as you have untill 2500 feet. Then cut away if your shute isnt working. This was an line over and it looked possible to fix with pulling the lines, obiviously i was wrong.
In almost all cutaway videos i see people blaming the pack job.its true you must pack perfectly but things just happens when it's time to happen no matter how good your pack job is.
If you think in that way you will beging packing caresless everytime. As skydiver and or packer you have to take control dont leave things to chance just because you dont understand why things happened thats complacency and complacency is not good in this sport
Actually, I was more concerned with his in-air stability and body position. This is why I think the USPA should mandate wind tunnel training before a student enrolls in a first jump AFF program.
I quit skydiving after several jumps because the process felt rushed to me. I met a stuntman skydiver who was a firm believer that you should become very proficient at indoor body flight and packing before you do your first AFF.
He chopped. If the AAD (Cypres) activated, then he would have both chutes out. AAD cuts the reserve loop to deploy the reserve, not cutaway the main. Your main is attached to your main risers, that are connected by the 3 rings, that is held together by your cut away handle.
They very rarely do. That's why you have to have your reserve packed by a certified rigger. If it does happen you have to work your ass off to try and handle it. The worst that usually happens with a reserve are some line twists and you can get those out pretty easy unless you're in a spin.
How is it way too long? We train people to work it until they cant anymore (decision altitude) or they feel like they can't clear it. Being a newer jumper he probably didn't know what not being able to clear it looked like, so he tried until he was out of alti....
As someone who worked on jets in the Navy, and then became a skydiver afterwards, I can say there is nothing more true than the line “there’s no such thing as a perfectly good airplane”. Blue skies!
