What makes this scene even better is that it was revealed in the expanded media that the Kaled government also used this tactic during the war. Afterall, dead bodies were the only things that Skaro had an abundance of. Meaning that, to Davros, this is simply the logical conclusion and he sees no real issues with it
Exactly, meanwhile, everyone didn't have that experience tailored specifically to Davros and he saw no abhorrence to it. He of all people would be baffled by everyone's reaction to it. Even on Skaro, some people were taken aback by it.
I personally believe that bodies should be recycled, but not in the immediately BBQ your dead comrade way. I see value in harvesting organs and marrow to save lives. I know some people argue that we could use bodies as fertilizer, but I feel like people should at least get to have the ashes or a burial of their loved one.
@@felixader A famous example of reusing bodies, or just straight up cannibalism, is the Donner Party. When party members would starve and freeze to death (Or maybe they just straight up killed them) the other members would eat them. Even though the bodies were already starved, they were still able to survive off of it. You can still get some nutritional value from the organs and bone marrow, but you're right, it won't be healthy or have be good quality. We do have to remember that people do these things in the act of desperation, if you're starving, you won't be thinking about the future health consequences.
"But did you bother to tell anyone they might be eating their relatives?" "Certainly not. That would have created what I believe is termed 'consumer resistance'." People who don't appreciate this particular story don't see that an exchange like that is classic.
There's something chilling yet compelling about how little severity Davros treats cannibalism by proxy. He's a man so divorced from empathy and a normal worldview that he treats what he's done like a completely reasonable solution to a problem. To him the Doctor is the weird one for being disgusted
especially when you add in the underlying detail that davros came from a planet that for the last 1000 years has been warring and fighting into oblivion. food would have been hard to grow, and death was common. so bodies were quickly seen as wasted meat
It's might not be a lack of empathy it might just be a cultural thing. In the expanded universe the Kaleds resorted to this during the later phases of the war. So their no reason to find anything wrong with it as its normal to him and his people
I absolutely love the way The Doctor says "You turned them into food...?" And how Davros just turns away, caught up in his own delusions of grandeur. This and the "Yes, I would do it" are my favourite Davros/Doctor moments because they show off the contrast between the two so fantastically
I like the subtle look of disgust on the Sixth Doctors face at the end of this clip. Very well played by Colin Baker who to my mind was one of the more under-rated actors to have played the role.
Colin Baker is an absolute gem of a person, but got completely shafted by JNT and the BBC. I still hope he'll get the big popular starring role that he actually deserves.
@Timetraveller2092 Well, im a fan and shes my favourite... so. Also Id hardly call over 4 million people "no one" 🤣. Also last I checked Colin Baker is too a fan of Jodie Whittaker. You need to learn to be more accepting and to listen to the messages this show carries, mocking peoples gender, sexuality or race is against everything the show stands for, in the sense it's quite cruel and cowardly
"Consumer resistance" Oh Davros, you've been exterminated, resurrected, frozen (while conscious) and infected by a virus designed for Daleks but you've still got a sense of humour :D
As I delve further into the classic Who series, I keep finding myself in awe of the wonderful Colin Baker's 6th Doctor! He's ruthless, daring, cunning, arrogant, smarmy, rude, mean & sometimes uncaring to his companions, but then as his run moved along, he finally became pretty endearing & genuinely awesome as Doctors go. I think Colin got robbed of a long opportunity because of utter poppycock! Anyway, I will go on record as saying Colin's 6th Doctor is fabulous & I loved his patchwork coat! #6IsMyFavoriteClassicDoctor
Melissa Hash He was a great Doctor, very much like how Capaldi played the Doctor, the more uncaring and unsympathetic he seems the more you realise he is the opposite. You can just see the Sixth saying in 1985/6: *“Peri, tell me... am I a good man?”*
And being eaten by a T-Rex and sucked into a black hole, I'm sure there are more. It helps to have popular villain immortality. But Davros takes the cake, he's been shot by a Dalek, frozen in a block of ice, infected with a deadly incurable virus, had his hand shot off, blown up in a spaceship three times. Hell, I don't think even the Joker has been killed off this many times only to magically survive.
They have a very Batman and Joker relationship. The two play off each other well and, in a twisted way, you could see them being colleagues or even possibly friends in different circumstances. Davros, like the Master, was one of his greatest opponents.
@@angelangelis8362 And much like the Joker Davros seems to underplay how much his enemy hates him. To the Joker Batman completes him, but all Batman sees in the Joker is a monster that won't leave him alone
Can we just give credit to Terry Molloy here for his excellent performance as Davros. I’d definitely says his incarnation of Davros is the most Dramatic and Shakespearian. He is so effective in delivering even the simplest of lines and making them become so iconic. I only wish we had gotten more stories with Terry Molloy as Davros in classic who as I think he’s definitely my favourite in terms of his line delivery. Well done To him for managing to make the character as iconic as in his first appearance. Xx
"Do you never do anything but kill?" Isn't that a bit of an understatement, Doctor? You are talking to Davros, the creator of the Daleks who exterminates any life forms that is not Dalek.
If you watch _Genesis of the Daleks,_ you realize that Davros never originally intended the Daleks to be genocidal maniacs. They are more of an experiment that got out of control; Davros proposed that in order to create the perfect soldier in their war against the Thals, emotion needed to be eliminated from them. The Daleks becoming genocidal was actually a result of them responding to their genetic impulses without any moral filter -- they even turned on Davros at the end of that story.
@@sixstanger00 His rant about unleashing a virus to kill absolutely everything and how the Daleks will give him the ability to do just that kind of belies the idea that they were ever intended to be anything but genocidal maniacs, not to mention that Davros himself pulled a genocide on the Kaleds then on the Thals as well.
Doctors 6 & 7 sometimes get a bashing from fans and I have never really understood why....both are so awesome :) I grew up watching 7 on VHS....oh the days.
George Reid Every Doctor has people who "bash" and "hate" on them, and it is more about preference than any logical reasons. I saw (thanks in large part to PBS here in the states running complete stories like feature length films from during the latter years of John Pertwee through Sylvester McCoy's turn) through the end of Liz Shaw through to Ace, and also bits here and there of course of Hartnell and Throughton. The reality is that it is cultural and modern views rather than genuine arguments, though I admit I think that Colin Baker's performance as Six are beyond underrated and unappreciated.
There are some excellent 6th & 7th Doc stories (Revelation, Varos, Remembrance, Fenric). But that particular era is hampered by poor acting, casting and writing, much more than any other era.
I think that's what I love about him. He's basically a cat (hence the badge). Quick to lash out, often hungry, gentle if abrasive with his friends and suspicious of strangers, though he finds it easy to be enticing when he wants to be too.
_"Dear Sir! I must strongly object to this depiction of cannibalism in Doctor Who. The very idea of promoting the eating of reprocessed corpses is a terrible thing to show to children instead of the far more wholesome imagery of people being blasted down by guns, bombs and lasers which is more in line with the virtues of British culture. Yours sincerely, Brigadier O.W. Smethig in a white wine sauce with mushrooms, onion, chives and sharp cheddar."_
...I always wanted a T Shirt that said "You turned them into food?" with Colin Baker's face and Davros on it...and another one with a Glass Dalek saying 'kill me child'..
Colin was very good as The Doctor. If only he'd been allowed to continue. I suspect he would have been very much a favourite with many fans, just like Tom.
Colin Baker's much better than Tom Baker who was, by his own admission, just playing Tom Baker. He's overrated partially because he stayed in the role for so long.
Julian Bleach is an amazing actor who doesn't get the praise that he deserves. He's more menacing than the previous versions of Davros, partially because he's quieter and only resorts to hamming it up when he's on the verge of victory, like when he was about to detonate the Reality Bomb. He also showed a more human side in The Witches Familiar and out of all the Davros actors, I think Bleach is the only one who could pull that off.
...I like how Davros has such range, he shows comedy (the statue of the Doctor), ingenuity (using people for food), he is such a long term schemer in this...and despite the bad graphic he levitates....while Genesis was good Davros was really a one dimensional villian. He really upped his villainy in this one, stealing brains and then using the bodies for food? that's priceless.
I think it's a little unfair to call Davros one dimensional in Genesis, he was pretty brilliant there too. I do agree that he was at the top of his game in Revelation though.
This severely underrated story deserves a lot of praise. Eric Saward may not have liked Colin Baker, but he helped him shine in this story. Despite the Sixth Doctor being somewhat sidelined, Saward gave the Doctor some key moments that really showed Colin's ability to act. I also believe that had we been able to see the actual season 23, it would continue to elevate Colin's performance due to some better written material. BBC was to blame for not taking this slightly elevated story telling seriously at the time. But it was a very different time back then. The entire cast in this kept me focused on the story, and the music and atmosphere dreamed up by Director Graham Harper and composer Roger Limb really helped make this one of my favorite stories of the entire run.
The Doctor: "I see you've been busy." Davros: "Where as you have been stupid Doctor" The Doctor: "Prerogative of a Time Lord." those opening remarks get me every time. very witty and very funny.
+Some Random RU-vidr Mine was Vengeance on Varos, then this. Public Television in the US ran the Colin episodes alot actually. They played Tom Baker and Colin episodes. Never played the really early doctors or Peter Davison. Didn't see them until recently.
The Sixth Doctor and Davros debating on sentient life with a little Soylent Green thrown in... if that isn't sci-fi, grab a cardigan sweater and re-knit it.
Y'know, I feel with a bit more time Colin baker could have gotten much better and more liked, yeah he was a dick in the first few serials but he got better, more compassionate and kinder, and you can see the the toon between these two here, but he got the boot before we could see it in full
*Y'know, I feel with a bit more time Colin baker could have gotten much better and more liked, yeah he was a dick in the first few serials but he got better, more compassionate and kinder, and you can see the the toon between these two here, but he got the boot before we could see it in full* Not really, you do see more of the compassionate side of the Sixth Doctor during, The Trial of a Time Lord. There's his attempt to convince Drathro in, The Mysterious Planet segment to spare the lives of the work units (people) under his supervision, his grief at thinking that Peri had been killed in the closing moments of, Mindwarp, his dismay at having to resort to wipe out the Vervoids in, Terror of the Vervoids and his disgust at the Time Lords hypocrisy when they moved Earth across space which almost completely destroyed the planet.
TheProfMiner Peri was a companion in Doctor Who from 1984 to 1986. I was upset when Peri left the series. Her replacement, Mel, was one of the worst companion ever.
I still say that if Colin Baker had been allowed to continue as the Doctor, he might have been as fondly remembered as Tom Baker. (And this isn't a diss to Sylvester McCoy, who was also a marvelous Doctor.)
Let’s all just say now that we know that the doctor saved him as a child really just shows all this time davros just wanted to surpass the one he thought was absolute power 😭
Crimson Dynamo no I don’t think that was his idea, he said his first scientific work was in the rendering plants, which was was were he learned what they put into their food pills
Fun Fact: The reason that “Revelation of The Daleks” took a very long time for a home video release was because they had a hard time securing the rights to the sixties tracks used throughout the story. The only song that didn’t appear on VHS or DVD was “Fire” by Jimi Hendrix. They used generic rock music to replace it, but it was hard due to there being dialogue over the music track.
Terry projects very well, the mask is quite ‘masky’ as in it looks more like a mask where as Michaels was more of himself. I do like the seething performance Terry gives in Remembrance, the gloating deep breathing and goading and a slight dribble when he thinks he holds all the cards. I don’t think Terry gave anything less than great performances in each of his classic Who performances including Attack Of The Cybermen. I am possibly in the minority but I think Davros is a great tool for Dalek chat and extrapolation. It would be great to see him in New Who where he’s trying to get along in the Universe rather than conquering it in some grandiose scheme. Classic Who never went too far with him: Creating The Daleks, rescue and intervention in a war, rescue and his own protection, establishment of a new base and loyal Daleks while generating an income and retrieving a Remote Stellar Manipulator in order to destroy the Timelords. Not dragging planets through the Galaxy to destroy the Universe (which makes no sense). I don’t think Davros ever got over the Dalek betrayal in Genesis he was never pure enough to be a Dalek. Daleks don’t even get along with each other (civil war) they don’t like the Abomination but tolerate it, they don’t like Davros but tolerate him, both have their uses.
I reckon this is the best Dalek story by a country mile. Certainly Colin Baker's finest hour and very well-written by Eric Saward. Terry Molloy's Davros is delivered with utter conviction and director Graham Harper permanently raised the bar in terms of storytelling technique . Sadly, it's the last truly great Doctor Who story of the 80s.
We can go back and forth all we like on this as to who was the best Dr the best Davros...etc Everyone has their personal favourites. Personally I think Michael Wisher was excellent In Genesis of the Daleks, it was dark, intense and the acting was superb. Sadly Dr Who today (despite massive budgets) seems more comical and less serious.
This is by far my favorite Doctor Who story. A little bit of corporate corruption, espionage with the reward of high income, and underneath layers more, an old adversary getting to meet his foe after changing face again.
Am I the only person who likes Who in its entirety. I do think its hit or miss at times, some seasons have only a few bad episodes, some only a few good episodes, but that is to be expected with a multitude of writers and self contained stories which can take place anywhere with almost any narrative. From 1963 onward Dr Who has always delivered for me, in some way or another.
Totally agree. His voice, his subtle mannerisms, and his performance makes him perfect for the role. He even has some audio stories as Davros made by Big Finish that (with the exception of one) are all great.
No love for the original Davros, Michael Wisher? I thought his portrayal was the best. Even the voice modulation used that mimicked Dalek voices was better than the ones that came after. If you consider the massive ego that Davros had, you can understand why the Daleks sounded so much like his synthesized voice.
Jack McCullough I recommend you listen to the audio stories: Davros, The Davros Mission, I Davros, The Juggernauts, Terror Firma, and the Curse of Davros.
Can someone clear somthing up for me please. In the end of Resurection of the Daleks, along with the two Daleks sent to kill Davros, how did Davros escape to a pod when he himself got subjected to the Movellan Virus and he passed out? The space station blew up a few minuites after he got infected.
Massively under-rated story, some great dialogue and equally well written supporting cast. I laughed so loud when the Doctor broke his watch climbing the wall, Nicola is particularly good in this story, seriously.
Eric Saward proves here he was a vastly-better writer than he ever was a story editor. If only ANYONE ELSE had been in charge of the scripts during the 5th & 6 th Doctor's era, those periods would have been so much better. William Gaunt is also my favorite character in this story as Orcini. If only Colin had a decent outfit to wear......
Has it really been 32 + years since I first saw this ? I guess it has...anyway, I always liked Colin Baker's Sixth Doctor and thought this was a marvelous Dalek story. Thanks for the clip.
My favt doctors in order ar 1. Davith Tennint 2. John Pertee 3. Colin Bakker 4. Tom Bakker 5. Sivister Mickhoy 6. Matt Smythe 7.Christphe Ecclestone 8. Pitor Davidson 9, William Harshnell 10.Patrick trowton 11. Paul McCain
It's always good to see a bit of classic Doctor Who. I wish it would get a full repeat on TV,like in the old UK Gold days. It would be better than the constant repeats of the new series they run over and over again on watch.That's the main problem with the revived show, it's OK but It doesn't have the re watch ability of the old show. I think the only story from the revived series I have watched more than once is the Doctor's wife.
Colin Baker had a brilt presence and a great voice! Only if was given the right costume, something similar to what Rowan Atkinson wears in 'The Curse of Fatal Death'
Davros lures the doctor to him for the sole purpose of......gloating to him about what he has achieved. And in the ned, the Doctor doesn't even defeat him, the Renegade Daleks do.
This is easily my favourite #6 story and possibly my 2nd favourite Classic Era Dalek story (after Genesis). #6, Peri, Davros and all the supporting cast are at the top of their game. Who can’t love Karla and Vogel as well as Osini and Bostock. Each double act has great dialogue and all really come alive as characters. Mr Jobel makes the skin crawl… just too many good characters to list.
I love these old clips. I was really looking forward to the Anniversary special and I hoped Colin my favorite doctor would be a part of it. When I found out that the only past doctor would be Tennant and the only returning companion would be my least favorite companion of all time Rose Tyler, it really dampened my enthusiasm. Its almost as if they are celebrating the last 8 years and not the whole 50.
