The only thing they proved is that 1960's design parachutes did work. Ask the same Andy Farrington if he'd jump at night, in a rain storm, into unknown terrain, in a business suit, and see if he still wants to do it.
You could find a qualified daredevil who would try it. There was someone who studied the history of World War II military bailouts. Some undoubtedly occurred under comparable conditions.
Nobody ever said a jump at 10k feet wasn't possible, its the conditions and the fact he had no gear that's the issue. It was like 19 degrees, rain, sleet, dark, who knows the truth, we probably never will.
I have a theory.. There are two angles in this case; let me explain one by one. First, Cooper would not have jumped from the plane that night. Jumping with a parachute would have been just a diversion. It is possible that one, two, or four more people might have met him on the flight, and when the passengers disembarked, he might have sent the money out through them. Second and very important, whatever information related to this case reached the police was secondary information, meaning what Cooper looks like and what his appearance is like. All this was known to others, meaning only two or three people had seen Cooper. With those two air hostesses and perhaps one more person, it is absolutely possible that wrong information has been sent to the police to mislead the police; unless an insider is found, it is not possible to do so. I think, whether there is a person named DB Cooper or not, all this story was created so that the police could be deceived. In reality, the air host and the pilot may have been in contact; they may have tied some currency notes to the parachute and thrown them, so that everyone would believe their story. I am not blaming anyone; I am just saying that we should think like this also. I think that the air hostess and pilot are the prime suspects, and it is possible that some passengers are also involved. It is absolutely possible that this is the planning of these people; they have already arranged everything. . Meaning, the notes must have been thrown overboard, someone must have collected the notes, and by the time the government traced those notes, they would have been converted into gold within a few hours. The person who would have taken the notes in exchange for gold would not have known that the government was collecting them. It will trace the notes. Now whoever has those notes will not make a fool of taking them out. And the people who may have done this work may have come from outside; no one could doubt that they did their work and left the country. Absolutely foolproof planning... My point is that... Does the police have any concrete evidence of Cooper's existence? Meaning, was there such a person or not? This incident happened in 1971. In those days, making a fake plane ticket would not have been a big deal. Who went to give him the money? We should think once again about who saw him, and that sketch and the name DB Cooper also seem like a lie to me. I think that finding those notes and tickets after a few years would not have been a coincidence; all this evidence must have been planted there deliberately; they wanted those notes to be found so that everyone could believe the story they had told. There are some things to think about. Are there no cameras at the airport? Meaning, if he was on the plane, he must have boarded it from somewhere, right? When the plane landed for refuelling, why did the FBI not get some of its people on board the plane, meaning it was not possible for the FBI to open the plane from behind and enter it? If I had been there, I would have flown another plane behind that plane, which would have kept an eye on him, and other officers would have been there, meaning it is a matter of common sense that if he was asking for a parachute, he would have jumped somewhere; whenever he jumped, the officers of this plane would also have jumped. He was not caught till date because it was not his real face and real identity. It is possible that people were involved from inside; this is not possible without some inside help.
Skydiver jumps from plane while wearing a parachute on a bright sunny day is hardly as dramatic as the music suggests, or convincing evidence either way about Cooper's chances of survival. But I guess it makes for supposedly good TV...
DB Cooper actually knew miles per minute and times his jump. He argued over flight path due to he made a water jump at night time. He landed in the river this is why he used a chute to wrap the money. He was making a floatation out of the chute. He was trained to do this at night in military. Watch tells him When to jump traveling at a certain speed the plane does miles per minute. Plane travels miles per minute NOT MPH. Nobody has ever even thought about MILES PER MINUTE. Flight this path, “your plane happens to be at the right place at the right TIME”
Plenty of people view the flight path by the minute..the plane traveled approx. 3 miles per minute. Cooper tried using the chute he opened but left it on the plane. Cooper never argued over the flight path. he argued over where the plane was going to land..
The Lewis River is about as wide as the length of a football field or a soccer pitch. No way, jumping out in the dark, could he control where he was going to land. He could have landed in the river or behind Merwin Dam, but even if he wanted to and did, it had to be 95 percent luck. A witness in Ariel, Washington saw a strange man walking on one of the local roads that night. There are a lot of reports out there and a lot of confessions too. Many people think he knew where he was when he jumped, and I am one of them. But he had no control over exactly when he would land. He didn't know the exact speed of the plane or the exact flight path. He probably didn't know the exact elapsed time either. The idea is interesting, but it is implausible.
@@anonymike8280 WRONG. Great jumpers even in the 50s and 60s could control the glide path of a chute. Cooper was given 4 chutes and chose a MILITARY chute since he was an expert military jumper. Probably special forces guy Ted Braden who was about aged 44 in 1971. ALL the passengers and crew called Cooper MIDDLE AGED. Speed of the plane was 180 at a 10k elevation. Cooper asked for that.
Not saying you're wrong, but how do you know he actually landed in the river? Then tried to look this up a while ago, but no luck, but what was the wind direction that night back on November 24th, 1971, around 8pm in Washington State, when this hijacking took place? Then some years ago read this book on about the Airborne WW2 soldiers jumped in France on D-day invasion. Many of these guys landed anywhere from 15 to 30 miles away from their target, when they jumped off the planes and they were completely lost when they hit the ground, according to that book.
I thought DB Cooper died during Scofield's escape along with the other Fox River 8.He didnt make it after bleeding out from a wound in his stomach.The money was hidden in Double K Ranch which ended up in T'Bags hands after swaping them out of a bag full of magazines.😂
That just guestimations so that’s false they have very little evidence weather he is alive or not and little evidence on who he is. We don’t know how old he was at the time. Just guestimations! It could been teen who looked old and whoever drew tht pic of cooper did a terrible job. Dude who saw him that night said he looked nothing like those photos but had the slick black hair and all black suit with the glasses and no tie I wonder why because he took it off on the plane
He probably died on impact landing in the top of a tall tree going unnoticed from land and air,some of the money come out and apart and blew miles away from where he landed and was found years later by a young kid..All this was at night in a rain storm probably cold temperatures in a remote wooded area of possibly 3 different states…After decades not much of his remains is left but probably still up there some where,but I have always been interested in this story.I was 6 in 1971 ✈️💰
The problem is that he likely landed nearby where the money was found at Tina Bar. This is based on the pilots testimonies. The actual flight path was some distance from where the FBI and local LE did most of their searches. He may well have died or survived.
Rounds are sound but a square will get you there. You can change directions by "Slipping". You won't turn the chute but you can change the direction you are going.
The FBI showed McCoy's picture to the flight crew. All of them said no chance it was him. The flight crew said Cooper had no accent. McCoy was from n carolina, had a thick accent and a lisp. Also, he was 29 at the time. The flight crew estimated Cooper to be mid 40's or older. McCoy was a copy cat. He learned of Cooper's details through conects in the Guard Reserve. The Guard Reserve Helipcopter pilots searched for Cooper the day after and for weeks. McCoy would have been called to search Nevada and there is proof of him being there the day after Cooper jacked. McCoy was also called out to search for himself which he did. This is documented. Can you imagine hijacking a plane and then being called up to look for yourself? Crazy.
@@joehalliday6081 he did search,you need to read the book there are a lot of so called facts that get repeated and excepted as fact. He not only escaped from but took two US Marshalls prisoner and tied them up. And after a couple hr head start he called some agency and let them know their where abouts - tied up of course .later he escaped from a Fed. Pen in PA. that had never had successful eacape. He was a Green Beret and highly decorated. Every suspect can have some holes shot in their narrative
@@bigwoody4704 i dont need to read the book. Did you see dan gruders video and all the obvious intentional disinformation? He shouldnt assume the viewers are all amateurs. Most bonefide cooper researchers know a nb8 when the see one. Do you know what a d ring is? You dont? Then you are the one who needs to do some reading.
Experience proves that forensic drawings generally are accurate. Walter Reca had too much bone mass in his face to match the forensic sketch. To me, the Walter Reca tape sound more like someone rehearsing a script. There also is an interview with Jeff Osiadacz, the part time musician who allegedly aided Reca on the ground. This, too, could have been a video of him rehearsing a script. He may have had no idea he was participating in a designed hoax as opposed to a production.
@@-danR Sorry, Hoffa was released from prison on Dec. 23, 1971. There is something about Hoffa's disappearance that is instructive though. One theory is that he voluntarily disappeared. Perhaps, in his meeting the mafia, he worked that out as a way of settling the beefs between him and the mob. Reportedly, his wife was having an affair. Hoffa had always been strictly a family man and that would have given him a motive. His assets and the considerable value of his personal pension fund would have gone to his wife and eventually to his children. Disappearing would have given him a way out without having to publicly retire from union politics and without having to go through a public martial breakup. Or having to privately continue living in an unacceptable marital situation. Hoffa's son and daughter both were in their 30s by then and both had law degrees. He would not have been abandoning them. Did it happen that way? Probably not. But it is plausible. Contrary to what people believe, the mob prefers to settle problems through accommodation if they can do it. The point in relation to the Cooper case is that you can't just go around kicking things out unless you have 100 percent solid evidence. Almost everything about Cooper is unknown. Forget if he lived or died. No one knows for certain his age, whether he had an intelligence background or not, whether he was a professional or manager, a shoe clerk, a working guy, a soldier of fortune or an ex-convict. No one knows much of anything. Not even his motive. He may not have even needed the money.
This guy is just like me and we don’t show up to do dangerous things unless we know exactly what we are doing… we don’t die like oops I made a mistake. Shouldn’t be there then. Risk comes from NOT knowing what you are doing. That is dangerous. This is called a calculated predicted the outcome risk. We stake our own deck against ourselves for a fun time
He and his dad looked over that chute for sure, and the variables using a round military C-9 are well within safety standards even today. This is a textbook ''Hollywood'' military jump on a sunny day.
He didn’t jump with the money which would have added speed to the jump. They estimate the duffel bag of cash to weigh 10. Kg or 22 lbs There wasn’t a storm that night it was partly cloudy and the pilot said he could see Portland through the clouds. FBI screwed up big time . They estimated the wind at 120 knots it was actually 80 knots and I believe DB Cooper landed in Vancouver and not Portland . Vancouver being more open then Portland would have been
''Pursuit of D B Cooper'' was a 1981 Hollywood feature with Robert Duvall and Treat Williams. Then, ''Bigfoot versus D B Cooper'' in 2014 with Jordan Rodriguez and Liam Watkins -- [which I hope was a comedy.] More recently, '' I Am D B Cooper,'' in 2022, with Rainee Blake and Chris Bruno. Too many low budget 'What If' cable-style TV shows -- like this one -- to count.
The FBI showed McCoy's picture to the flight crew. All of them said no chance it was him. The flight crew said Cooper had no accent. McCoy was from n carolina, had a thick accent and a lisp. Also, he was 29 at the time. The flight crew estimated Cooper to be mid 40's or older. McCoy was a copy cat. He learned of Cooper's details through conects in the Guard Reserve. The Guard Reserve Helipcopter pilots searched for Cooper the day after and for weeks. McCoy would have been called to search Nevada and there is proof of him being there the day after Cooper jacked. McCoy was also called out to search for himself which he did. This is documented. Can you imagine hijacking a plane and then being called up to look for yourself? Crazy
Cooper jumped using the back stairs. The pilot didn't lowere the stairs until they were hald way to Portland, hundreds of miles from Cle Elum. The wind would not have taken him to Cle Elum. It is more likely that you are a woman.
My thought is, he could have survived the jump. If he had long johns on under his suit. Gloves in his pockets and boots in the paper bag he had with him. I would never have made this jump in loafer shoes. It also depends on what he had in his pockets, knife, cord, compass for example. I love a good mystery
All this Him Dying on impact From 10,000 feet or from the HARSH 40 degree weather and light drizzle which was around the actual temperature and weather at the time of his Jump is absolute nonsense. Everyone has their opinion though ofcourse. Dive reallly reallly reallly deep into this like I have and you Will Find that This Man Absolutely Knew what he was Doing… 👀
@@CaptainSaveAHo93 People live in the wild all the time. The million dollar question is, did he know what he was doing or was he a DA. I think with the technology of the day, he might have known. The way he directed the plane etc. Hypothermia is one of the deadest killers in the wild. Once he got out of the plane, did he hit a rock, get caught in a tree or some other object and not make it down. I like a good mystery. We will never know for sure, but with those times technology it is in my opinion a GREAT BIG MAYBE. Not finding the money is no big deal, due to if he left for overseas, went to a place that the money would carry him for a long time, it is more than a good chance you would never see that money again. They only took the serial numbers; I can only guess how many $20 there are in circulation today. It is a great mystery.
The altitude was actually 5000 feet so he could have and did make the jump. In fact he hit a dead tree right before he landed. He also has long thermals under his suit pants.
These composites are not accurate according to the eye witnesses. Which is why the FBI refined them twice. But the most commonly used composites were the originals, which show Cooper as younger than he actually was and ignore that he had tanned skinned or, at the very least, was of a swarthy complexion.
I’m confused nobody was ever found no shoot no witnesses that saw him jump. This might sound like a conspiracy, but what would happen if instead of jumping he hid in the plane.
I really liked Reca, Rackstraw, and Sheridan Peterson. But the truth is at this point unless something incredibly telling is brought to light we wont ever know
IDK, but if it went down that way, I would think the FBI and cops would have found him immediately when that plane landed. Think the FBI and cops screw up at times but doubt they would screw up that bad or hope not.
When you look at the time 1971 till the 1987 when your watching a classic boxing match ball game in the crowed there were many people that look like D B COPPER or I could of seen him at at a Mohammed Ali Sonny Liston fight and knowing he had the money to go to Vegas and launder that money so he can say you got the wrong man I won this money in vegas but every time I watch documentary of that era I see many suspect that match that sketch of copper but that's why back then they had over 10,000 false leads thinking they found DB COPPER
@@joehalliday6081 I'm all over it. P.S. I contacted the other 986 people who claimed to be D.B. Cooper on this post and told them they were un-original. You know what they all told me? That my breath stinks!!
@@marcusanthony179 i didnt say there were 987 people on this post claiming to be db cooper. That is factually untrue. I doubt there is one other person on this post making that claim.
What is the relevance of an inoperative reserve chute? The main chute works a very high percentage of the time. If it didn't, it would long since have been redesigned so that it did by the time of the Cooper hijacking. The military wants reliable equipment. You can die for your country, but they don't want you to do it on impact. Get real.
Did he really jump? In another investigation documentary the theory was it was an inside job. The guy worked for that airline so he knew the aircrafts. He might have had help also. He let everyone off the plane plus two of the six crew members. I'm guessing pilot, co-pilot and two stewardesses. One or two of the stewardesses could have been working with Cooper or at least sympathetic to him because the airline were dicks. Suppose he hid in some compartment on the aircraft and they reported he jumped. Also suppose they reported he was taller than his real height? I always figured he jumped from the plane until now. That is of course if he worked for the airline.
He can also have been waiting until the plane was close to the ground. If it were closed to cockpit no one knew when he did it. But I also like your theory 🙂
Well the hard part of a tree is mainly at its base. Whats accessible from the top is leaves and flexible branches, especially if it's a pine tree. The old guy that says that has made thousands of jumps and his friends too...so him or someone close to him will have undoubtedly landed on a tree at some point. Hence his remark. The idea that risking on hitting a tree at night is a great danger and that you will immediately die impaled is just plain wrong. And you can bet that db cooper knew that. Once the parachute is open you will reach the ground alive. And hitting water is frankly even better. Cold but that s all. The risk of hitting the middle of a river or a lake is extremely unlikely And even then the survival rate is pretty high. If the parachute opened, then he made it alive on the ground.
@@sherryhannah9262 Oh Sherry you’ve done it now. You should've been gone Knowing how I made you feel And I should've been gone After all your words of steel Oh, I must've been a dreamer And I must've been someone else And we should've been over Oh, Sherrie, our love Holds on, holds on Oh, Sherrie, our love Holds on, holds on Oh, I want to let go You'll go on hurtin' me You'd be better off alone If I'm not who you thought I'd be But you know that there's a fever Oh, that you'll never find nowhere else Can't you feel it burnin' On-and-on Oh, Sherrie, our love Holds on, holds on Oh, Sherrie, our love Holds on, holds on Oh, Sherrie Oh, Sherrie But I should've been gone Long ago, far away And you should've been gone Now I know you'd lie You'll stay Oh, Sherrie, our love Holds on, holds on Oh, Sherrie, our love Holds on, holds on Oh, Sherrie, our love Holds on, holds on Hold on Oh, Sherrie
DAN COOPER IS LIVING IN THE CARIBBEAN , KNOWN HIM FOREVER. FROM THE CAYMANS, HE FINANCED START UP APPLE AND HAS BEEN LIVING THE GOOD LIFE AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH HIM
