DCS: Air to Air Refueling Guide | The Mental Game | Tips & Tricks 

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I didn't like the use of the term switchology. Who really says that?

Betcha know the difference between "vertex" and the "new" version of the singular form of "vertices", though :) Man you were born for educating...... feel free to pronounce things whatever way works :)

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While you were learning he was probably doing the "rub belly and tap forehead" thing and yelling "Look it's not that damn difficult, just put it in already!" too haha

2xKTfc That what sheee sa... nvm

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@@chris2802 I'll pay you back.

Well like I said in the video I really recommend making yourself a little mission, start-up, take off, fire your gun, drop some bombs, then hit the tanker. I think that will help you out just as much as the curves!

I have the same stick. Which curves do you have ?

@@xaver9591 Dude, for me the best configuration for the sensibility is: Deadzone 5 and Curvature 20. Now I'm able to mantain my craft aligned with tanker without struglle with the small movements.

try enabling altitude autopilot, I can't really explain but the controls will simply feel more stiff and the plane will be more stable and precise

Well you are doing better then me. I havent seen the tanker yet. Not sure what Im doing wrong. It talks back to me and tells me a heading and elevation. I correct for that and wait, nothing happens

JP mad hahaha sounds like you’re my target audience my friend!

@@Spudknocker Yup.....that be me! Now if you, Jabbers or Matt can tell me where to find the ignition keys for my Hornet, I can get to learning this thing! :)

JP mad Matt has a really great start up video!

@@Spudknocker Roger that, and thank you! Keep up the good work, I need all the help I can get! :)

16000m fcs here too, I feel your pain. Thanks for the vid, spud.

Its this weird little ball thats white with these weird red strings in it

Ok so its like air to air refueling

I am glad I could help Woody!

I have heard that advice but I very personally find that using too much rudder screws me up more than too much roll. But everyone has their way of getting it done. I've even seen guys split their F/A-18 throttles and use one engine for speed adjustments.

Spudknocker Yes sir, I definitely split the throttles in the Hornet. I don’t think this will work in the Tomcat, because the wider engine spacing might induce too much yaw.

@@HEATER_ Ya, asymmetric thrust in the Tomcat is bad news... see Goose and Kara Hultgreen

Yep! Its kinda like a graduation to the next level

Agreed the F-15C is a beast in aerial refueling!!! Glad you mentioned it :)

Ever tried the F-16? That damn Boom is complete behind the Cockpit, and the Lamps on the Tanker are... Misleading for me, and the F16 don't even has a visual reference in the canopy, it's all glass, great view ofc but makes it even harder to hold position

Can relate

All about staying relaxed to avoid those Pilot induced oscillations

Stieglitz Things With Wings Trash hahaha I am a fan of clicky cockpits as well that’s for sure!

I record them live with Nvidia Shadowplay!

Henrik Bonnevier sure dude but any of the tips I listed here apply directly to formation flying cause A2A refueling is formation flying

@@Spudknocker diden't think of that lol, but a pure FF vid with 2-4 planes in difrent formations would be awesome 2 see aswell. but keep up the awesome work, you are my go to guy for tutorials for DCS=)

george Χαριτος haha you sound surprised?

Spudknocker yeah because I tried again after the video and it worked

I like to show him wtf is up by knocking off one of his elevators with my nose when I give up. Then I put a missle up his butt. Then Quit to desktop. Then drink :P

And that's the point. First, learn how to keep constant distance behind the tanker. Second, learn how to keep constant distance behind the under-wing tank of the tanker. Then, you can learn how to do aerial refueling. Finally, learn how to refuel from tanker turning into a roll.

@@jakubdabrowski3846 Evasive maneuvering fueling. Next level.

Interestingly for me personally, I found the F/A-18 pretty difficult after having used the Harrier for so long, the FCS felt too clunky and un-precise compared to the direct linkages of the Harrier, but after getting used to it I no longer have an issue.

Spudknocker you were right about "getting a feel for the aircraft". another tip I find really usefull, when it come to pilot induced oscillations, is to apply less correction than you think you need, really helped me a lot. Great vid too btw.

guess it's time to try it inverted :D

Maybe. I'm used to the Su-33, because tutorials has taught me to use it. And I use autothrust with corrections.

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i never understood what was so difficult about carrier landing, i used to be obsessed with perfect landings before anyways but i always have had difficulty with aerial refueling lol

@@kballs94 yeah Carrier landings took me only an hour to master.After that,everything the computer tells you (youre too high,your too low) is complete bs to you since you already have the experience and know the angles to land it right Aerial refuelings are way harder.Especially with aircraft not intended for low speed.Something like a su33 is easier since you do air refueling at speeds way faster than carrier landing and is easier to control.You can also see the refueling boom from the cockpit while facing front.Allowing you to 'aim' the boom to the fuel pipe easier.Something like an F15C or Grinelli's F22 is hard since you have the booms rear of the cockpit (rear left in case of F15) My carrier landing : air refueling ratio for the flanker d is probably 110:1

@@vortex6818 Actually, I have personally found basket refueling more difficult for some odd reason. I think its mostly because of my instinctual habit to focus on flying into the basket and then suddenly having to shift focus from the basket to the refueler itself. Of course after experience you can get used to the position of the basket but I havent had the time yet. I found the boom to be much easier. Beneath the KC135 are these lights which tell you where you are relative to the perfect position to be within refueling. I believe I found it so much easier because the whole time I can focus on the refueler aircraft and keep myself in steady formation while the boom operator is also simultaneously keeping the boom attached. While the boom is a lot less lenient than the basket in terms of how far you can deviate. However with the boom, if you know what to focus on you dont need that much wiggle room anyways.

@@vortex6818 Do carrier landing with a Spitfire (IL2) its hell.

It took me less than week of scattered attempts to get it down pact and I'm using a low end X52

@@papichai73 what is your pitch, roll curve man?

Very true! F/A-18 requires a lot of playing to get your curves correct, its pretty easy to accidentally nerf your maneuverability with too high of as curve. I made that mistake when the Hornet first came out.

Marco, I'm looking for a wingman myself. If you would like to join up I have been flying now for about 3 months. I'm OK. I have been studing the A10C moreso than anything else although I have most of the other aircraft. I have just purchased the FA18C and would like to get more proficient with it. I have been with the FA18C now for about 2 days. I'm not a real fast learner with the book. Moreso with doing. I need the practice and would like someone perticularly better than me although, I can certainly hold my own (in most cases). So, if you are interested in joining up contact me at boseimmp@msn.com. Thanks

I should say to anyone that may read this reply. I am looking for a wingman, helper, teacher...is there anyone interested? Or does anyone know of anyone that is interested?

Well, just after this comment, i've read a few comments here about sticks and all... see ppl changing the curvature in the commands to become more sensible and for the first time, i've refuel the 18 from 8t to 17t, was amazing... still have a lot to work but was incredible. One of the biggest problems to persons like me its the pacience. If you are someone that still can't do the air refuel, take me as a example.

Damn... My video shoulda been 5 seconds just to say that haha

Hey man, there is an absolute TON to learn. It’s one of the reasons why it’s hard to call DCS a game, you have to do a lot of learning before the sim makes any sense. For instance one small thing here is radar guided missiles don’t care about flares, only IR guided missiles do

@@Spudknocker I am getting very good at starting and takin off though! Lots of practice there. Im still missing some of the systems. Not sure what Im doing. Trying to learn the aim120c since I believe its the longest range missile and I want to keep distance but it isn’t working out so far. I can get them in radar at 40 mi but the range of the missile is only like 20. Ive also learned how to eject very well🤣🤣

@@chipburns4123 the better you can get your flying skills down, the easier systems will be to learn and eventually combat

what?! lol

Yeah, put the stick thing into the basket thing untill the go juice comes out. Remember, smooth strokes on the throttle. 👌🏻

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