DCS: JF-17 Thunder BVR Fight SD-10 Capabilities 

Lets be careful with asking for the SD-10 to be nerfed, at the end of the day this is a simulator not a battlefield game. If you want my 2 cents I think the SD-10 is preforming how a modern missile should behave. Its the AMRAAMs that are nerfed and not behaving correctly. The range and speed of the AMRAAMs in DCS have always been a topic of hot debate. Me personally? I'd like to see the AMRAAM get a buff, not the SD-10 get a nerf. Big thank you to Sunde for helping out in this video, the JF-17 is probably the most modern aircraft in DCS right now so I have some high expectations for it in the long run, its had a great launch, obvs a few bugs but its no big deal they will get ironed out soon, for the most part I'm very impressed with this aircraft and I highly recommend it for anyone who is on the fence about it, especially if you like the idea of being competitive in an air to air combat environment. As always guys thank you for watching the video and for your ongoing support, I'm very grateful to have subs like you guys here on the channel.

Aim-54: "I'm the best long range air to air missile missile" *SD-10 enters chat*

IVE been a fan of you for a very long time , but i might"ve taken that up a few notches when you flew my country"s jet . thank you !!

Beautiful video brother, thank you for reviewing our bird😃. Much love & respect from Pakistan✌

Waiting for more JF-17 dogfights. So excited. Hope you will do more. Will you?

Awesome overview of the JF-17 and SD-10 capabilities. The Thunder is definitely gonna give BlueFor a hard time. Loving your content and looking for more JF-17 in action.

Recently , JF 17 was seen with PL-15 missile

Man this is a nasty 🐦 respect

Good to see JF-17 on your channel. Love from Pakistan. ♥️

Deka recently said SD-10 was able to perform well, because they tweaked the coefficient of proportional navigation law with respect to range. They set 3 parameters at the range of 30km, 15km and 5km. The further away, the less it will response to sudden target manuver. So the missile would save a lot of energy, comparing to lead-persuiting a cranking target and hard-turning all the time. In fact ED has already implemented this to the 120C before, just not tweaking the parameters detailed enough.

Finally, been waiting for this since you made the F-16 vs Mig-21 video.

The two-seater version of this aircraft, JF-17B, had its first flight only a few days ago. Exciting stuff!

My uncle was a wing commander in the PAF. Did his Combat Commanders course with the JF-17. I had the honour of flying in a training variant and it was an amazing time. Really happy to see this in the sim. I’ll definitely set this up for him sometime

*Sir Abhinandan, all that detail was for you* 😂

AIM-120: "Am i joke to you" :(

Excellent introduction and demo. Great work as usual mate!

JF-17 Block III has arrived and the two seater variant JF17-B, 8 of them have already been delivered to PAF.

The 104th chaps are going to ask this to be nerfed otherwise they’ll put the JF-17 on the Blue Side 😂

Abih one done 😂😂 the tea was fantastic

I’m kinda new to your channel , but your intro is awesome M8 “good kill good kill” Love it !

sd-10 alone should generate some sales . hehe.

PL-15 is integrated on JF Block III and PL10E as fox2! Aesa Radar, Helmet Mounted Display, Whole new Avionics

Great video and thanks for that little IFF tidbit info as I’m still learning this Aircraft

I saw many DCS videos about jf17 , but I was waiting for your video , I I am glad that it was worth waiting 👍👍

SD-10 looks like a good one indeed. Now to get the proper functions on the 120's :) Thanks GS and Sundae!

Tea is fantastic sir

I just wanted to say that this channel is fantastic. Not only are you one of the best virtual pilots I have ever seen, your videos are informative and to the point. Not droning on and on before getting to the point scores big points, there are so many videos that I cant even get one minute into because the knucklehead is talking about everything BUT the topic of the video. So I salute you, and please keep these coming! I especially enjoy the cinematic aspects, some of these dogfights are movie quality. And how on earth do you keep TrackIR so still? Even with huge deadzones I can not manage to look around as smoothly as you do.

Very cool vid. I watch yours and Longshots all the time. Totally like the way you narrate and give instruction on these. If I had a setup to fly I doubt I'd get anything else done in the house ever! LOL. Keep making the vids! Really appreciate them.

Hey growling sidewinder! Great video as always. Keep up the good work

Buy JF-17 Thunder and get a chance to have a cup of tea with your enemy;)

Nice looking plane, for sure.

Perhaps a F-14 (AIM-54) vs JF-17 (SD-10) comparison next?

Thanks for covering JF17. Many countries are buying JF17 from Pakistan. These countries include Myanmir and Nigeria. And countries like malaysia, argentina and sirilanka are already shortlisting it.

The guidance and the drag coefficients on the SD-10 are insane. Really shows what the AAMRAM should be capable of if slightly less capable than the SD-10. There needs to be some real work done on the DCS missiles by Eagle Dynamics.

F-16 is still my all time fav... but the JF being homemade is scrappy and I respect it as it reflects the true spirit within all us Paks, fightin and kickin against all odds, doing more with less against bigger and better equipped enemies. Thanks for sharing, & high fives all around from Pak.

Thank you for this, Growling Sidewinder. Much love and respect. Holy smokes those missiles are deadly! The Aim-120 needs a buff ASAP!

One can only imagine how much A.I. is used now and how accurate it is.

I work in the final assembly line of this aircraft with the Pakistani Air Force. Not overly impressive but a decent bang for your buck. Good flying in DCS! Looking forward to more uploads with this aerial machine

Wow👍 what a honest review of JF-17 gr8 job, weldone

Nice introduction of the plane and awesome vdo.

Sir tea is fantastic 😂

Good vid! SD10 seems like a great modern missile. Really need to buff the AMRAAM though. It's sad

Wow you proved how good is the JF 17 and its missiles.. Thanks

Thankyou so much for making this video love your videos so much

The SD-10 is based on the PL-12 missile which should have similar ranges to the R-77-1 (upgraded R-77) and AIM-120C-7 (upgrade to extend the range of the C model). So I expected it to be longer range but didn't expect it would be that dominant, at least in energy retention with a turn. As far as chaff resistance goes, its a generation newer than the AIM-120C so it's to be expected. Not sure if this missile is in a completed state development wise but even if it isn't remember it's a generation newer than the AIM-120C so expect it to be VERY deadly.

Ayy 50k subs growling! :D

Thank you for this one. THis will help greatly !

yes! been waiting for this!

SD-10 the first friction-less object in the history of man.

Thank you!

Great video! Wish to see more of this bird

Looks a good fighter with great capabilities ❤️

Jf 17.....buy this and catch ur enemies alive!Offer tea and get great compliments....FANTASTIC TEA

The PL-12 is about 20% larger and 10 years newer so it should outrange the 120C ? I guess the Pak airforce would know best since they operate both. Atleast they havent added the PL-15 :)

Thanks ........ make us very proud....... and you are very impressive pilot ......

Thanks so much growling.

Wow such an amazing missile 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇵🇰 we already outraged Indian missiles with AIM 120s now with SD10 and other Chinese missiles 😅😅 more tea will be served i suppose

With those speeds, I'm curious how well it would perform climbing to a high altitude target from low altitude.

The tea is fantastic 👌

Missile missile missile. Where have I herd that before? Almost like some sort of ace of combat😏. Nice video

The Tea is Fantastic. JF17 thunder

F 15 to SD-10:Am I a joke to you,twice? I actually liked you reading about the JF 17 better than me reading it on my own.

Two days ago Pakistan has conducted first flight of JF 17 thunder , In China . It is actually block-lll with no major changes , but it's has advanced radars , and major cockpit changes .

Awesome video dude!

Curious to see if the SD-10 and Phoenix performances are sufficiently matched so that dominance as a long-range missile could essentially come down to the difference in their chaff appetites!

This is JF 17 Thunder the Killer of Su 30 and a MIG 21 of Indian Air force on 27 Feb 2019.i t is a fight proven machine.

Respect from China🇨🇳 I am a fan of ur flying skills now!

Mount the TGP. You can slave it to your locked on RADAR target and it will give you some awareness as to what he is doing. Great to look for missile launches too.

Structural features The aerodynamic shape of SD-10 is in line with the latest trend of air-to-air missile technology in the world. It adopts a normal aerodynamic shape layout with large slenderness ratio, small wingspan, and rudder control. This layout has small volume, light weight, small resistance, faster flight speed and greater maneuvering overload. The full length is 3850mm, the diameter is 203mm, and the range is 70km. The main difference between the appearance of the bomb and the Thunder-4 is that the full bomb is relatively slender, the bomb wing is smaller, the main wing is smaller than the tail rudder, the tail rudder is provided with a zigzag notch, and the front of the bomb body is provided with four dark bands Antenna. Development History The SD-10 medium-range air-to-air missile was developed in the mid-1980s, and all development work has been completed. As the guidance method is an advanced active radar plus strapdown inertial navigation system, the SD-10 has the ability to "don't care after launch". Its overload of up to 38G can also ensure that the missile can track and intercept air targets that implement 9G overload maneuvers. In addition, SD-10 has a strong anti-interference ability, which can effectively combat several forms of electronic interference, basically covering the current common electronic interference methods. Use case SD-10 is very versatile and can be mounted on various advanced fighter aircrafts. In order to improve the combat effectiveness and use of SD-10, China is still actively improving it. The first is to increase the effective range, which is expected to exceed 100. Kilometers; followed by better electronic components and improved guidance accuracy. In the future, it is also possible to develop the SD-10 into ground-to-air and ship-to-air types, equipped on high-mobility off-road vehicles and warships, and become short-range or regional air defense weapons.

JF-17 Thunder prove Its Self against Indian MiG 21 & SU-30 on 27 Feb 2018..

Love your videos... Am a fan.. 👌👌👍👍

Very informative..nice video

It's my 9th time watching this video again. I am just too excited for this jet (vidz). Hope you do more videos of this jet. And also share your opinions about this jet. Comparing it with other jets will be nice. That way we can know it's pro's and con's. Thank you so much again. Hope you read this comment 😊😊

Ek chai ke liye itni mehnat ufff (all this effort just for a cup of tea.😂👍) Tea has to be fantastic 😉

Love you jf 17 your the killer machine for example (the tea was fantastic).

Hey GS, do a JF 17 vs F 16 dogfight.. as a comparison on what's better in what ways.. keep up the great work!!

Waited along way to see u fly jf17...

Love to DCS from 💐❤️❤️🇵🇰❤️❤️💐🦅

Jf17 is a professional machine 😍

Awesome vid. Could you put together a video explaining the different iff modes m1, m2, m6?

if you pitch up 15 degress while launch, the sd-10 will loft

AVIC Chengdu: just take it

LOVE THE CHAI LOL

Wow JF17 Thunder the beauty❤❤❤❤❤

make more videos on JF 17

I feel proud watching this video tho it's just a game. I'm Chinese btw XD

what a beautiful bird

Thanks for the video and taking the time to do the test. Looks quite awesome to me. Funny thing is I am trying to learn the BVR stuff and especially online, always been more for the Warbirds. I was at your server yesterday for the second time ever but left shortly after as the chat was filled with whining about the Jf-17 and the SD-10. If it's one thing that is static through the flight sim community, no matter what game or sim, is whining about the things that challenge someones favorite plane or thing. In this case the 120C stopped being the best missile in the came and somehow that challenges people view in the world. How could a western made missile not be better than an eastern made goes the argument. Well, the SD-10 is at least 10 years newer than the Aim 120C so a better comparison between the two would probably be the 120D in the future. Like you said though, be careful with wanting a nerf for whatever, this is a sim not an FPS that needs balancing every week. By the way, is there a way to beat the SD-10 at the moment? Diving, notching and chaffing didn't do anything apparently :-O /Wilbus

sd10 is cheaper too apparently - how realistic is this speed though

Those dislikes are from pajeets from the streets

very nice cockpit

Very cool video.

So it means my JF-17 block 3 can give a tough competition to any fighter jet specially french rafale that India bragging all the time.

Apparently RU-vid ate my last comment. On ED forum, the dev made several statements on missile performance. 1. They spent a lot of effort fine tuning their proportional navigation guidance logic. The flight path is efficient within the limits of DCS. 2. They have their own computational fluid dynamics data for the missile and used that to build on the DCS standard missile model. They hope to build a more advanced missile flight model later because the standard model has limitations.

PL-15, Aesa Radar and lot of new things are integrated on JF Block III and PL10E as fox2!

Nice review 👍

Love from pakistan!!!

Looks like Redfor finally has something to fight the Aim-54. :D

you are just amazing youtuber

I wish I could see you take on F-18/F-16/F14 in an F-5. I think F-5 is such an underrated aircraft and with your skills you could own in it.